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who's going to keep the proceeds he's in the conspiracy even though he actually wasn't there when this sale took place he's a conspirator and so part of the goal of the conspiracy law is to make sure that the most senior level all of those in the criminal organization are justly punished the problem is when you flip it around and the lowest level people in the criminal organization get punished just like here the key. and that's the big problem in the way in which the conspiracy laws are being applied. i know end up in federal prison in dublin california i realized that i would need to spend a lot of time in the law library and i needed to film from a arise my sound my case and everything that had gone wrong if you furthered the conspiracy in one step you're guilty for everything in the conspiracy no matter when you entered the conspiracy it could have been on the last day. because i had
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collected some money on i technically was guilty of conspiracy. held responsible for everything that everybody else had done and my sentence my 24 years was established based on the sum total of all the acts the thing that sandy had manufactured that's where my years came from my years did. things that i came from 3700000 tablets of x. to say that he had manufactured puts me on the chart at this lab just 24 years that's how a judge sentences you based on a chart the way the sentencing laws apply to conspiracy. being subject to being punished for all the conduct that everybody in the conspiracy has been involved in. so the idea of proportional play. it can be
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lost if this triggers a mandatory sentence to add insult to injury while i'm incarcerated for 24 years he comes back to the us and goes before the same judge this sent me to 24 years and he got 3 years probation because he cooperated and snatched out everybody. the person who comes in early and cooperates usually ends up with a lower sentence than the person in the conspiracy who walks up 2 days before the trial and tenders a plea that sentence will be different even though they may be situated the same it's just plain different and those are the yangs in the ng's of the sentencing process that the court has not a whole lot of control over and the u.s. attorneys and the prosecuting attorneys have control over but it does result in a different sentence when you're facing something like 20 or 30 years. you have
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people that are are doing things they never thought they would do which is turn in their friends testify against friends sometimes they will even make up. false information to testify falsely against people just in order to get themselves out from under the terrible legal situation they are in the pressure to provide information is huge and coercive and un-american. but that's the way mandatory minimums are said. my mother calls me and she said well i need to tell you something. and i'm thinking the worst just while i may is featured in our magazine she's been in prison for a number of years and why that was such a catalyst was suddenly we had something tangible to hand to people the community found out and my brother got involved and my father and senator bumpers and senator
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pryor and everyone started actually looking into the case and saying well what could have possibly happened here this just doesn't seem right my story in case started gaining momentum and we got i think up to 15 politicians wrote letters supporting my clemency when i read it i was i was sympathetic. because i thought. that her husband was the primary driver of the offense she was clearly had a subordinate role needs. and she was caught up in the way of these conspiracy laws. are extremely broad ranging and you don't have to do very much to be to get yourself stuck in a case like i went to my case managers office and walked in the door and she said she was in a frenzy and she said you know where are you going to release to and i was like
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what do you mean and she said were you going to live when you get out of prison and i said wow i guess what my parents for a while and she said because i've got to set you up on probation and i said why. i just said you're going home. and. i couldn't process it i was just right. and. my reaction was are i think i was sitting down so i stood up and i said they're going to start and i sat down and i said what do you mean and she said you've gotten executive clemency president clinton has ordered you out and you have to be out today by 5 o'clock the president had granted her petition and she was told that afternoon and evening they let her out that day it was really great because we always got bad news in there nobody ever. was really nice to have all the women walk me across the compound and there was that moment on the compound of victory but it was really
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hard to because you have to leave you have to leave so many people behind. we can confidently say today that we are finally beginning to win the war against now is the time to show drug users that we mean to reach our goal of a drug free generation in the united states you will be put away and put away for good 3 strikes and you are. the primary mission of the drug war as stated by the nixon administration is to create a drug free society. that's what it's all about that's why we spend the billions of dollars and incarcerate millions of people. is to create a drug free society. we've been atthis now for good marks for 40 years trillions of dollars into it no wind in sight really within
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a reasonable person says how much closer are we to creating a drug free society. you begin to realize that perhaps we've been given a mission here that is impossible to achieve we saw violent crimes go through the roof as these. criminal gangster organizations fought one another so we're seeing that type of phenomenon today in our major metropolitan areas like los angeles the crips against the bloods and of course there are endless filings that we're seeing in mexico and in places like south america as these very rich powerful cartels fight one another it lines up perfectly with alcohol prohibition when you look at oklahoma prudish and the richest man in the country was ok he controlled if you tried to get in his market he would kill you there were also kinds of sub factions they trying to to manufacture it in their bathrooms and still it was once in a teary he didn't know what it was cut with sometimes it in a freeze people would drink this group of people who drink you to get cirrhosis
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kids would die in the crossfire it sounds all too familiar because this exactly was happening on the streets today in the united states going to comes to getting violence of the drug one of the problems that we have a drug prohibition is so different of a business you make so much money in such little time and the difference between arresting someone for dealing drugs and arresting someone for committing rapes. when you arrest a rainbow is someone committing burglaries you know what the rapes stop. the burglary stock when you arrest someone for dealing drugs dealing drugs doesn't stop in that corner you just create a job opportunity for someone else to come in and unfortunately when a job is filled viciously so fighting sioux name and even. the emphasis over criminal justice system should be on violent offenses this is where most people are concerned about. they won murderers and branded they want murders
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and rapes solved and they want these people taken out of the community and locked away in prison so that our communities can be safe i don't know what the come out just as well to be like without the war on drugs. my only experience of it has been during the war on drugs. when i started family in 1991 war on drugs really heated up in the eighty's kept rolling through the ninety's you know sort of started tapering off and then to thousands but it's still alive and well it's like pounding funder of anti drug is styria in 1906 we must do something anything and that meant grasping at straws and not looking ahead at what the costs are going to be what might be effective while i was on the hill i increasingly became convinced that the war on drugs was a mistake it was. counterproductive and i wanted to put my
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energy into ending it and so in january 1989 i started the criminal justice policy foundation. and that is been the opportunity for me for the last 25 years to. mobilize different kinds of strategies to end drug prohibition a lot of it has been through other organizations i helped start families against mandatory minimums and my office i'm still very active with students for sensible drug policy. and with law enforcement against prohibition. and so a lot of my work is advocacy. strategizing you know what are the ways to change drug policy to reform from the justice system. there are. countless numbers of people who are in prison for inconceivably long
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sentences for being minor minor offenders in the drug trade these are just a handful of you know files from families against mandatory minimums. we are these people you know jane felt life sentence. clark 35 years timothy tyler life sentence. sure on the jones life sentence. this is not an aberration this is the life blood this is the typical case this is the typical clarence aaron whose numerous pieces i mean these are all excessively long cases these are. you see colombian drug lords here you see mexico. the mexican drug lords here.
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of soda every day the idea was that let's tell consumers there are the bad ones there the litter bugs are throwing this away industry should be blamed for all this waste the company has long promised to reuse the plastic. that seems. their plastic. away and i knew. that concession could object to funding me. on i'm your best bet is the end of a footy team but for now the mountains of waste only grow higher. in a world of big part of the new lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to be deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle
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for the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. i was so glad to to start to work my way out of prison. so going the clinton house was a halfway house you were half way old but you were still open. so i got the clinton house. already already has some experience and or who had a rueful background. i called my old boss so he was in a halfway house at the time and i think someone i don't know what company happy i'm doing roofing and his mother came to me and next we were out by him appear shoes that he needed to do his roof and and he just blossom he just blossomed from there
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i was so happy to be at work and be there to be have the ability to work again that i never missed a day i was always there i was always there hour early before anybody else get there. so in essence i was hungry i was hungry to work i was hungry to be free. and had the ability to change my life around so all those stains. made me a good employee in minutes when he dismayed as mine of been saying he was going to go in for you know go into business for yourself. out all starting i just really felt that i had what it took to be entrepreneur and to be successful. so i quit my job and i was fully fledged into business then i had to leave our for here business i made about 30 some $1000.00 or more for a c.e.o. . i remember a vest i'm back into the business i'm buying tools a mile ladders so i'm growing the business and i think my 2nd year party did about
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me some. 3rd year i did about one a solo 1000 some story was surely progress and so now i'm up to half a $1000000.00 next in a moment to say i want to now miles. in early $2999.00 our own 2000 my folly will over the $1000000.00 more. that wow wow no i never thought that i would call a $1000000.00 business. a person has to have a dream. you know they have to want to do better for themselves you. and bring a person out of prison. and they can have nothing and they can make something of themselves if that's what they want. when you lived a certain way for so long and as far as he. became a way. dad needs to be put out here. because
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a lot of people don't know how to break it change from the street thing that's saying get a hold of you a single hold you want to die to be all that bull of war. for me is to be that beacon of hope oh no matter where you come from the better what you do and you can come out of that because the same bull i sold drugs on. directly across the street for my office is used to set a bar called the night light that i've sold drugs out of that door for a number of years inside and out so they have mobility almost became before and then to show people that yes i was that once drove up and down a stream and sold drugs and did all that stuff there i'm now a changed person and i'm now somebody that they can expire to also. executive clemency was a bittersweet victory to be honest right there because it didn't take me very long
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. after i got out and the excitement exhilaration wore off that i realized that that. i may be free. so many of my friends and other people aren't and. as long as they're not then i'm not really so i started a can do foundation which is clemency for all nonviolent drug offenders to try to continue to help some of the women i left behind i did time with danielle barbara mary richards and they've all done well over 20 years these are all guys who are serving life these are for pot he's for l.s.d. . i have just got back. washington d c i was there for a on a fundraiser about the whole clemency project that's happening and in fact i took. all these guys to the front in front of the white house and anyway there's several of them that i stood out in front of the white house advocating for their clemency
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when i started practicing law almost 40 years ago there about a half a 1000000 people in prison. and today there are $2300000.00 people in prison billions of dollars have been poured into the prison expansion not only of the federal prison capacity but billions have been sent to sate local governments to expand their present capacity and during the 1990 s. we were building on average a prison a week and as soon as these prisons were built it's important to emphasize that they were immediately filled up with 1st nurses and even today many of our prison facilities are operating beyond their design capacity if you compare in the u.s. with other industrialized nations canada or western europe we lock up our citizens at $5.00 to $10.00 times the rate of those other nations it's not that we have 5 or 10 times the rate of crime of those other nations but we have consciously chosen to
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have a much more unity to broach to then other comparable nations and have the nets was only see him as a cursory. seems to me to go i. got a job. and. a lot of. the year and. as it were there shall. pass from their parents children's lives and going to. the conditional and. loving him. just because. i'm ours. bred jellicoe 126-3706 my 1st encounter of the of the prison systems are pretty young. lifestyle drugs you know star early the thing with me was i got out february i think it was
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2012 within 3 months i got out they mccourt fives fame arrests to sion paid. child support paid everything i. 0. i start my own business i got a vehicle had tags had a license and everything in october that year i decided smokes weed and i thought the worst case scenario if i go to the probation office i have to go to a program where i'd be urine test regularly i go to any a well the reality fact is dirty urine is a violation and probation officer i had was new and she was a stickler for the law and she violated me their own spot i wept like a little child i couldn't believe i had made all this work on my i have all this to show you look at all this i have i've done it she's that you've done a lot but you still using drugs and it's against the law. to get sentenced to 4 years for dirty your analysis. it's
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a lot watching your children grow up in issue in waves and say by daddy as you're walking out of the business it is just it doesn't get easier you don't stand and as you get older you think you become more custom than this but it never under any circumstances gets easier. for. c.n.n. . i want to say thank you for spending as much time as you do at the halles watching everybody all moms at work i know you miss out on playtime i know you miss out on a lot of banks i just want to start off by saying i think. i'm proud of you wrestling . i'm glad you're sticking with it i know you're going so just like i said try to stick with it and you know why you're the man of house did the best you can take out the trash drive things you manners i love you so we're very proud of you of
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those wonderful. friends from 7 to 13 really growing up. and i'm sorry i'm not there to go. had you as much of a life lived. to turn out pretty good and i'm very very proud. i really am. now oh i don't know i'm so right my baby. i love ya vision very recently you just got. so very proud and i know you worked hard to tell me how you were doing when. you're strong so friends. and now. want to know i love you and i miss you very much oh here's what i miss you and there is a culture that i went through it is more moments or any time you hate of me you miss me there's a there's
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a new meaning the same things mom would choose were i love you and i miss you all and i hope to see you soon that i love you. and it's. the 4th of july. because of the fact that so many of us have lived for 30 years in this box of mandatory sounds and federal sentencing guidelines and you know the drug war we have to start breaking out of that box and thinking about a world away that out the outside of those confines if you're interested in reducing the injustice and to see mass incarceration you have to go to the root of the problem which is too many laws on the books and what is the primary problem there as far as prioritizing which was ought to go 1st top of my list is the drug laws because i think we're in another situation where it's very similar to the days
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of alcohol prohibition where the government has just declared millions and millions of people to be criminals and that's what they've done with the stroke laws there danger i. want you to. the broader perspective there are so many of. these are actually the typical this is the system it is broadly unjust and that it is so wasteful it's so counterproductive it's so inefficient one and asked to be why does it continue. why are we going to be able to spot. more efficiently on a policy that's been going on since man eating it's. one of those so many low level as many seen as major. that's a very deeply disturbing indictment in the waste so much treasure. and
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