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we believe survivors there are chanting that was senator ted cruz and his wife heidi being forced out of a washington restaurant by left wing activists in america in the u.k. and the rest of europe it's a discourse in which fists and kicks speak louder than words any opponent is painted evil regardless of whether or not they have any history of engaging in far right violence and if the left can deal with you physically they will discriminate against you as happened to white house press secretary sarah sanders last year when she was refused service at a restaurant they will publicly ostracize you like when eric trump was harassed when eating out the left will even track you down and come knocking on your door.
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used. the left is on a search and destroy mission and progressive outlets will give plenty of outrage to announce the new rules when the goal justifies all means so when the day comes that the world feels return to its normal axis i expect we'll see fewer highly charged encounters making headlines in the mean time the new rules apply if you're directly complicit in spreading hate or pitcher waiting suffering maybe you should consider dining at home now showing a satire piece or nigel for raj where the braggs a tear gets a head shot from the sniper is fine well it's a joke after all except imagine a conservative channel joking around killing a leftwing i can for instance but as an undisputable force of good you don't waste
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your time talking with the enemy trump said that there are bad people on both sides and he was heavily criticized but i think he was absolutely right to left they cry foul when there is any source or negative techniques used against them but when they use the same techniques and actually go further and employ violence to mitigation and harassment on a mass scale a lot of cases using social media. so that they believe that there is just if you call everyone a nazi then no one is a nazi or no one is or isn't is a genuinely legacy's force that she makes it more likely for forces like fascists to rise and challenge the left isn't forcing a new order and by the new rules the gloves are off when dealing with dissidents. thanks to international aid i think you can get in touch and share your views on
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all of our stories by following us on social media and we're back in 30 minutes with the latest see the. readings and salyut asians the united states celebrates its 243rd birthday this week on july the 4th and like all busy great u.s. holidays and the president donald trump era. not even our birthday is without controversy washington d.c. is buzzing this week up with the washington post revealed that according to sources trump is asking for military tanks on the national mall as proud of the grandiose july 4th event yes it appears that this year's planned festivities on the national mall could be taking a very militaristic turn over the normal red white and blue burgers brock's and beer flag waving fireworks extravaganza normally is rolling stone reports that the donald is act actually been receiving regular briefings about it from interior
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secretary david bernhardt and that the president has advised on just about every aspect of the event says that x. which should be gets his wish will indeed beacher tanks or other armed military vehicles stationed around the mall cue the outrage but it's not just tanks trump and the gang are also reportedly planning a military fly over including not only the blue angels but air force one as well along with the usual and along with the usual national mall fireworks displays president trump's planned salute to america will also feature the man himself giving a speech to all of us huddled masses democratic majority leader in the house of representatives stony hoyer and other democrats are naturally calling foul in a letter to the administration they wrote that the events will give an appearance of be televised the partisan campaign rally on the mall at public expense frankly that's not what july 4th is about so it does present trouble militarizing our
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holidays to ramp up national jingoism in an effort to boost his reelection campaign let's find some answers and start watching the hawks. would you. like. to. see. what they like you know that i got. the police. i. was the one watching the auxiliary military role in downtown. so you're ready for this july 4th i'm not going anywhere near a military from the bowl potentially i would rather go to the mall that the oscars are held in. and get an orange julius on oscar night than go to the mall and deal
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with us no absolutely not if this is i mean there's something new about the idea of sort of having these you know military like parades like i get it i get the july i think it's strange that it came so quickly like this why wouldn't you do that the 1st year why when you're salute america your 1st scared off as why did you wait until you're getting re-elected but i think what's interesting is people's outrage about that i mean for me on my you know whatever doesn't come out of that i feel because the idea that this is somehow like new with trump i think is interesting and my favorite former pentagon and state department spokesman under president obama. mr kirby actually to he did he ordered military fly overs for his big speech on the 4th now according to the washington post trump is pushing for military attack this is who we are we should be better than this and far above this sort of crap. i hate to break it
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but this is exactly who we are. welcome to do you see where i like 75 percent of the people walking around are being paid in some fashion by a military industrial complex how much of our money goes to pay for all of this out how much of our safety goes away to make sure these people get more money for planes that fall out of the sky i mean i'm sure. we are right it does nothing for me i mean i sort of. i understand democrats side hey you're turning this what should be a national celebration that could potentially turn into one big campaign rally i get that criticism i understand but. i mean i'm not a fan i don't want to see tanks on the streets here in washington d.c. but at the end of the day. the fact that people are outraged how dare he celebrated military life this is. so the former military guy who didn't know that nato is an
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anti russian organization thank you let's not play this like i don't know the military how scary we celebrate the military. vehicles constantly in this country in this country i mean we've got fighter jets fly over football games all the time. troll or at the pentagon estimates that just in 2018 we spent $1700000000.00 and here's the key word advertising for the military $1700000000.00. we spend 750000000000 on the the budget for the planning to in the year 2020 that's what they want to try to spend 750000000000 for the military 2020. more than half of u.s. discretionary spending in our budgets goes to the u.s. military but we're not a jingoistic society you know we don't we're not over here trumpeting the military often that's all we do it's absolutely. but what's interesting is.
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this is what you said earlier this isn't the 1st time this has been pushing for this since but still this year so this is still day parade in france which is a layer of this because if we were in the french revolution trump would be the 1st person drugs from his home and products. like the idea that that was the thing that really made him excited. also there's the problem with this whole thing is bringing this was brought up before when he wanted to do a military parade here and try to do what the french said here's the problem our tanks will rip up every street in d.c. and if you've been do you see the streets are bad enough already so unless they're ripping them up so that they can more easily replace the day after. i'm sorry but i think that my ancestors who fought in the revolutionary war helped get us that independence that we are so celebrating this weekend would sort of roll their eyes at the whole thing the idea of trial of tanks rolling down and this sort of
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weird. monarchy that's happening over here with you know. the one other thing that kind of upset me about this too is that the whole sanction off the area from the leg of the 1st half of the from like the front of the. lincoln memorial back about half way down on the. half way down the reflecting pond is all the payoff for you gave enough some america. a series of plans but unpermitted marches by far right and far left organizations classed clashed both with each other and police this weekend in portland oregon leaving at least one journalist 3 police officers and over a dozen civilians injured demonstrations were planned by the patriot prayer proud boys and men rights groups him to which were then counter process protested by a number of and to follow groups while police try to separate the groups to avoid
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violence it seems according to portland p.d. that the groups in chapman square and loosed in park square merged then began marching toward waterfront park this is when an unpermitted march was impeding vehicular traffic for a short time it was then that fights and assaults broke out as at least 5 separate regional and national far right and far left groups converged in this convergence and de niro and editor and photojournalist frustrating in online magazine the quill it was attacked by those identifying with the antiphon movement this isn't the 1st time and you know has been harassed or attacked and protesters and literally it is twitter bio that they hate him it isn't even the 1st time that it's been caught on camera however it does shine a light on the fact that no matter what actually happened this week and years of media conglomerates turning our political landscape into a sporting event has had its consequences. really observations all this does feel like it all feels like teams it feels like instead of going to the park on
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saturday and playing bob t. ball or doing your dart league you're like oh let's go march against nazis so let's go be nazis let's go do this you know look i just don't think they take it very seriously to be honest the thing is to lose it's like you're show me these reports you know we look at. all these reports we're looking at the video and all but the thing that really jumped out at me too was my own after the initial thing happened and everyone went crazy on twitter talking about it was the amount of dishonesty that came out of it the amount of half truths that got cycled out right media sphere the blogosphere and all that like what were some of the biggest ones that you saw that was really one of the biggest ones i think was this the milkshake harry so you know about him a few weeks ago nigel faraj in the u.k. had a milkshake thrown on him so that became a big thing became a sort of protest thing about throwing milkshakes you know promo tricks on all the not. so
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a group had brought them there and giving us these good milkshakes by the way these are big and milkshakes. there were reports that were brought in that were sent in during the protests of the portland t.v. that said that these little liberal protesters connected to and before were handing out milkshakes laced with quick dry cement to throw it. so it turned out that's not true there was no quick dry cement they never found one and the problem with the as that these things were being handed out and people were drinking it was part of a shake back the streets people were drinking the milk shake so if you would put it . there were times that people films people had him thrown in their face with andy no here's the thing this is someone who in a sweater bio says and if i hate. he goes to these and he puts himself in situations where he's filming them and he's in the middle of these things and like
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i said there's many you get the same reactions whenever he goes there to do at his gig as he shows up they don't like he says he's allowed to be there the whole thing happened but when you look at this i mean i don't see the point of this what does this tell anyone does that suddenly make an. do andy know who suddenly everything he writes is pointless and oh my gosh who is ever going to follow him again it just it all of it feels so childish and when you watch the video of a bunch of these quote unquote to 5 protesters which here's my thing about that i never trust a grassroots political organization or any kind of movement that comes out of nowhere and most everybody involved with that is wearing a mask because i've read and i've done my research on the cia doing that in the fifty's and sixty's and seventy's to everyone from you know black power movements to students organizations and the fact that you're out there doing that and purposely saying i am going to cause problems makes me believe more than nothing
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more than anything else that these people out there are there to cause a problem to make a political point. because they may be part of something else and i'm mad that's right everyone the proud boy and whatever are meant to all of it there's something not right about any of these organizations extremism versus extremism isn't going to solve any problems at the end of the day i think you made a great point tablets like you know throwing milkshakes and throwing all this stuff on this on this writer and king about like you said that's not going to change his views that's not going to change that was really you know and the one thing that gets me that if i'm sorry we talked about earlier you made a great point to me earlier that i have to commend you for is i don't see them out in the soup lines given out soup to the homeless i don't see and make in people's lives a better deal as hamburgers did the black panthers at the only time i see and depose when they're dressed in black causing a ruckus at a protest now they did do some good things you know they've done some good things like protecting people during a protest the got heated but i don't see them doing in thing outside of that all i
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see is just extremism met with extremism and people fighting each other in the streets one really have to try to figure it out doesn't going to solve this world's problems i'm sorry all right as we go to break cork watchers don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics we've covered a place called you tube or twitter and be sure to check out watching the box the podcast album spotify apple music and everywhere listen to your podcast and of course of course do not forget to see our poll shows about dot com coming up we delve into the world of the corporate with the hijacking of grassroots movements with author and journalist through the day to those who are watching. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy one sunday shouldn't let it be an arms race on sunday school very dramatic development the only and. i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time
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to see. him talk. much emotion the sounds of combs that she used in the wrong way carry carried potential like any any psychoactive substances. but used in the right way they seem to have quite a. profound sort of piece of potential and of course you could say strikes on the one of. the united states of america was built on a grassroots movement of watchers what started as a small grassroots set of demonstrations against over taxation grew into a boston tea party and then evolved into a full on revolution and eventually saw the birth of
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a brand new country but grassroots movements for change the united states didn't and in 776 from the fight for unions and women's rights we attain hundreds to the civil rights movement in the ninety's fifty's and sixty's to the 21st century is occupy wall street black lives matter grassroots movements are in interwoven fabric of u.s. political history one could argue that they are one of the purest forms of political expression but what happens when a grassroots movement is co-opted by the very power it seeks to change or even worse started by those very powers in order to influence public opinion in favor of a corrupt government or corporation well that's called astroturfing and it is one of the many themes journalist photographer and author jason business explores and his new book fake politics how corporate government groups create and maintain a monopoly on truth and he joins us today now from new york city to take us down the rabbit hole a fake politics thank you for joining us jason. thanks for having me yes jason i
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think just so people get my view of what this is what what is astroturfing when you see it in politics and can you give our audience sort of a real world example of the scene used in our political system. will typically rather than simply throwing money at a campaign or doing a lot of the things that wealthy people do to influence politics that they would like to see come to fruition this reset up of a much deeper network of advocacy it could be think tanks that are often cited in studies that are conveniently towards one goal that's on the more common things. the examples range from a single issue big tobacco trying to delay regulation to bigger sustain campaigns like the koch brothers pretty much holding back climate legislation for going on 2 decades one thing you mentioned major corporations have also used this sort of astroturf and to push their agenda you brought up the idea of tobacco corporations
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but how does that work in a in a corporate world and and who are besides a big tobacco who are some of the biggest offenders. big tobacco definitely is very good at what they do. gas companies wal-mart had instance in the book it's basically i mean you got to keep my never breaking the law but it's greatly dishonest it can be through p.r. companies it can be through blogs but it's easier now than ever because the internet has democratized information. and that's what's so interesting is that it's so simple i think people get is that there their own idea is that you think kind of what grew up in your own head largo are kind of support this right really like this it could be something that's completely influenced by these kind of behind the scenes operators and you're suddenly now joining like a like a sort of political movement or you know or getting information that is completely true that that is being used to influence your politics at the end of the day. i
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don't i'm curious are these types of influencing operations exclusive to you know one i mean we have the 2 party tragically a 2 party system here in the united states. are these kind of things exclusive to one political party or the other or there are predators on the whole spectrum of politics here. i don't think it's a party specific thing in my book openly there are a couple examples that are right of center but that's because the koch brothers and . the mercers are particularly wealthy and had particular views they wanted to see enacted but they also typically you know wealthier people do tend to vote right of center as well so that it deb creates a connection but it really isn't one specific side and when you say how scary it is to not be to find it it took me months to research this book so in a day to day life trying to get work done trying to live your life these are the kind of things you're not going to realize are impacting decision making both for individuals and in washington. no we've seen that is that what's interesting is is
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that we've seen this in certain kinds of government situations. in which you know certain ideas get pushed forward certain things become a much more important thing in the in the process or in the media than they do they seem to be to the rest of us in real life is this one of those situations where you know you turn on the news and they're saying americans are so worried about x. y. and z. and yet you can't find any people who actually care about that is that kind of where this pulls in is making an issue seem like your neighbors are more upset about it than they really are. i don't know if i've done these to these examples of that actually know that that's incorrect i mean people talking about. a different reasons for your neighbors aren't as concerned about their concern about gas prices so it usually is to a bigger thing there's a bigger. set of ideals at mind but the bigger thing is that there's an agenda to
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be had and often on the contrary they wanted to be under the radar as possible they don't want the news talking about it because if you do the digging that i have the time to do you're going to find that all these organizations happened to have donations from one group and so in sort of writing and researching the book was there any instance you found of a specific kind of manipulation a specific instance of astroturfing that even you were surprised or or couldn't believe was actually a work you kind of a thing like we all assume what were some of the big ones that the price. yeah for me when you look at stuff like the koch brothers not to keep mentioning them but everybody kind of knows at this point that they're very politically active their names are on lincoln center here in new york city but little things like wal-mart setting up a blog making it sound like all these wal-mart employees are so happy it was 2 people who went driving across the country in an r.v.
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and were parking in wal-mart parking lots kids free to park they just happened to be running into like the happiest walmart employees in the world every time they stopped so little stuff that innocent it was surprising but it's also surprising when you really think about the influence that could have if enough people read it if it gets picked up in a local news broadcasts and undoes a lot of the preconceived notions we have about wal-mart not treating their workers the way they should. yeah and that that's kind of stuff is so insidious to me when i see you taking place because i think anyone would be offended by that it's one thing if a politician gets on t.v. and says i believe you know big oil or i believe i don't believe in climate change ok that's a politician saying that but when you're reading a blog or you're reading a paper or you're reading something that's supposed to be legit or someone's just personal feelings and suddenly you find the oh no they're getting paid oh no no this money is going in their. influencers yanomami and that's the end so we probably shouldn't be at the prize if that month as they like that probably
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question as we found out at them had spent their you know i want to ask you is how how do you feel how can. better spot these kind of these fake what can they do like you said you research a book and you know it's a lot of research and a lot of time but is there any advice that you can give the kind of help people better spot these moments where they might be being manipulated this could be a complete manipulation. the problem is there there are some you can question the motives of something that happens to be way too convenient for big companies big entities big industries that usually don't have things happen that community for them. but my bigger solution is to make this a political issue you care about. citizens united being dissolved is something that is political has some political momentum. public more public financing of campaigns there's less money in politics is something that has political momentum really the solution to this is making politics less for sale. that they're really. i
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don't know i mean d.c. is so i'm like why it don't say that too loud you might scare people in this town in the beltway because most i think what people maybe people don't realize or they assume is that you know most of our politics most of these parties most of these issues are bought and paid for and whether it's and we've seen it you know throughout this of corporations sort of. terrible perhaps the ad or you know some sort of sale of something there's definitely a difference in the way that things are perceived what do you know what we could do you know what are the things that people i guess what what can we do as the media to better report on certain things so that we were better informing the public so that they can make informed choices about. oh this is going to sound like a journalist being advocating for the industry i'm in but investments in journalism are important local journalism is important if you look at
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a lot of the people i cite in the story they did work that i didn't have the resources to do jane mayer of the new yorker did work over the years because someone paid her to research the same thing for years which made my book even possible. so if se and journalism is important but more than anything i bring it back to the 1st bill that came to the house when the house was flipped was to was h.r. one which does a lot to further democratize this country that's the actual substantial change that's actually has a chance of fighting you know the koch bros of the 4th and 6 the richest people in america it's quite and opposition. it is you've got a lot of people of the. a lot of people are waking up to the wealth gap in this country a lot of them from people like the sanders campaign and now it's become a major issue on the on the 2020 take it the wealth gap is one thing but i think people still have yet to really comprehend the influence that the wealth gap has rocked all over our politics and all over our you know what we buy in this country
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and why we buy it or what we think is even cool we are marketed to constantly things like that and i think people like yourself putting out this book is a good way to help combat that i want to thank you so much for coming on today and telling us about your new book i definitely hope people have the time to go pick it up jason business the new book fake politics how corporate and government groups create and maintain a monopoly on truth which helped break that monopoly thank you so much for coming on today. thanks says. the mexican weather service warned of strong rain however i don't think they expected anything quite like that in fact this natural phenomenon has never really were accorded in the area in which it occurred a powerful hail storm hit one of mexico's most populous cities guadalajara leaving behind night and nearly a metre and a half of packed hail behind that freak storm as you can see left cars in the streets buried though no fatalities or major injuries were reported of course children also took the chance to do the time to have to have snowball fights and
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make snow angels as the summer heat makes the cleanup a little easier as long as they get to it before it can cause flooding in the area meteorologist believe that the hail storm was in part due to increasing and record breaking temperatures in places like water lara it's almost as if the climate. tell us something about. what would be. a fun we'll find out tomorrow that is our show for today remember what in this world are about to hold the world loved up so i told you all i love you i am sorry robot and on top of watching all those are very very much like my.
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