people i had never met in my entire life i mean is this completely fabricated completely made up ok well we had the movie or inquiry now we got the horowitz inquiry just how does that differ to the attorney general the now it's really general bill book who's also investigating of the alleged russian conspiracy allegations were created well i think it's important work that they're doing and i just hope that the people that they're talking to. actually give the truth now because they were just giving complete lies and basing it on false. misinformation that was being fed to them and they just pumped it into the system and unfortunately it just needs it was just a complete falsehood and it needs to be. fixed why do you think it took 16 hours is the report for horowitz's team to do in london well i think you know if you look at the countless hours that the misinformation that they gave. really

took over the media for a couple of years all i know is the allegations that he made against me was were completely false this is someone who had not been over to russia for many years right so he's just getting false information and passing it on the show you know not only to the u.s. government and the u.k. government allegedly but also to the media this guy mr steele was profiting on this misinformation right and typically you know there's the official secrets act and if you give. government information to the media you know you're breaking the law when seal is being linked to everything from the script live in the go to nigeria would you want the u.k.

government and their own boris johnson to reprimand steele if he comes out on the wrong side in bilbo or which is reported well i hope again i think all i know is there was a lot of wrongdoing and i think there was a lot of misinformation and a lot of rules that were broken so i think the more that people more that's the truth is finally exposed and people stop covering up the the wrongdoing back in 2016 i think it's it's long overdue and i think you know once these. false hoods are exposed i think it's really be a positive step forward for each of our countries but you can forgive some for believing in what you're saying a false would surely give into the d.n.i. which involves the cia the f.b.i.

we have all the agencies they targeted this program they said we're in a conspiracy to stop hillary clinton from being made president it's terrible because a lot of the same people you know that wrote this report you know the top people are you know contributor at c.n.n. and m.s.n. a lot of these you know media organizations in fairness to him and i got to say. we can get m i 6 on to refute what you're saying i presume they'd say he knows a great deal about russia when the brightest people with the british foreign intelligence agency in famous or the f.b.i. their top lawyer james baker said you know we we took it seriously the dossier but not necessarily literally. what do you make of that from the general counsel of the f.b.i. about presumably allegations against yourself it's just so preposterous and. i who knows what they mean you know i think it's just such

a tremendous misinformation and false that have been put out there it's quietened down a little all the russian gate stuff since robert will is just running congress but he did move us said he had new poets in the final 4th face the war and he wanted to explain this against you in june of 2017 although people say that would have needed his approval would have you testimonial in the. war against you and i think. he largely avoided the question. but i think when he said the reason i didn't have any i was involved with well what's unfortunate is that final warrant application was signed by mr rosenstein and so i think there needs to be somebody general until reason. so it's really unfortunate and i think it's important that we get to the truth because what the false words and the lies that they submitted to in

a court in the u.s. federal court in the in washington i think is really historic wrongdoing and i think there really needs to be fixed but i think at the end of the day it is you know now that these facts of now that the real facts are starting to come out i think it'll it'll just show. how you know resilient and how strong he has been from the very beginning and i think it can pass you know out in the mall or reported even alluded to the negative impact that it had on u.s. foreign policy i'm cautiously optimistic that if the whole truth is indeed exposed as it should be and should have been a long time ago. this is a great opportunity for each of our 3 countries but you have no proof that the reason the warrants against you were based on this dossier that the british government or the intelligence services were working with steel law even the

loadable pretty well i think there is there have been some reports in the telegraph newspaper and elsewhere. that there was coordination between. between mr steele and the u.k. government ok so at least the inspector general of the devoted to justice and his people to london for this grilling on presumably allegations against you robert mueller didn't even talk to julian assange. for his reports and made allegations about then he said went on to say some government is that the president is kind of guilty until proven innocent according to u.s. coast no what do you make of it's really sad. it's funny because when these. when his investigation began in the 1st half of 2017 i thought as a u.s. former u.s. marine this person would would have

a lot of integrity but it's unfortunate that he repeated lies about a 1000000000 deal in iraq. yeah why did trump think that was a good guy to be running well you know i think. he was really in a bad position and there is just so much misinformation being pushed out there by the media and its political opponents really rested their credibility on these false it was going after the wiki leaks founder julian assange because. you know i am always very careful about not talking about george i don't know about you know there's been so much wrong doing which was directly. directed at him. you know and using me as a way of damaging him in the media well the u.n. says he's been tortured. what was the personal toll for you i know that michael flitter was on this program obviously sentence. what was it all of you i don't

think he's been. sent a sentence but there's a shadow over him and these other people with the toll on you watch you know i think about the toll that it's had on our country and the world and i mean it's been tremendous challenge but you know i'm more concerned about the damage that it's done for so many other people you know a few of whom you named including general flynn etc which is just a terrible thing that even the d.n.c. weaponize this going to of this information for 2020 you think all these reports i mean well i think that's what's important from historic standpoint in terms of what i will be happening over the months to come i think as as this information continues to be you know exposed with all the wrongdoing that was committed you know you talk about personal toll you know i know having dealt with

a lot of these media organizations they've certainly paid a tremendous price a lot of what is also in the foreign policy campaign team george but what opelousas me on this sure. has been tweeting out his book he is saying that there was a concerted attempt here in this country by your officials in the u.s. embassy in london who didn't want to elected basically clinton had a fan club across the diplomatic world here and go. and they just didn't want your president elected well i think that. again i don't i don't like to speculate and we'll have to wait and see what comes out in these final official reports just fine they're going to us there what do you think i do think should take care with boris johnson because boris johnson there's a picture of him with professor. the mysterious professor was implicated in trying to damage the. presidency of old europe do you think u.s. u.k.

relations. a little bit more work needs to be done before forgiveness is the order of the day for the white house well i think you know there is a lot of positive steps that. the new prime minister has started to take and you know positive statements that have been made so this is a great new page got a page thank you thanks very much after the break our political and media elites framed catastrophic climate change the atlantic voyage aggressive and britain just a quarter away from possible recession with goals that you know best you have to pull just to jason it will be all but true i'm going on the growth.

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catalyze a massive crackdown on civil rights and journalism germy corbin leader of western europe's largest socialist movement and halt on the heels of increasing the british labor party's share of the vote by more than any leader since 945 invoked it well before this week's other verse 3 and his bid to be can't take a prime minister next year marks the 200th anniversary of the pizza massacre when 50 peaceful demonstrators were killed and hundreds injured on the streets of banks. by troops sent by the tories to suppress the struggle between. the great english poets percy shelley wrote a poem about the massacre and that was the origin of last logan for the many not the few ironically given peterloo is remembered not just for shelley but the ensuing media crackdown it is members of corbin's own body and parliament who have attempted to crackdown on media like this t.v. channel and the arguably failed to raise the fate of the world's most famous

publisher julian a son is currently in solitary confinement in london as for the media landscape in britain and 2019 mainstream media journalists have been taking time out in august to attack this 16 year old swedish environmental activist sailing the atlantic to highlight the threat of global catastrophe every person who fights for the same thing and use voice gets hurt is very important and it doesn't really matter who that person it's what background that person has done and it has dedication and wants to fight for a better well well here in britain goldsmiths part of the university of london has been apparently fighting for a better world too joining me now is dr jason he called who is on the british labor party's task force on international development jason thanks for coming back on what is the green new deal at goldsmiths than way you taking such extreme measures that's what that will be to the present and therefore really not a direction are quite reasonable compared to what we need to accomplish our clan objectives but yeah it's

a comprehensive plan for dramatically reducing goldsmiths emissions it focuses on decarbonising the entire institution by 2025 which is consistent with. you know with principles of international justice in terms of rich countries in the emissions more quickly than poor countries so we're really putting out one energy it means different suppliers i mean solar panels yes that's going to mean you know maximizing universes use of solar p.v. solar panels on it's going to be switching to renewable energy supplier which is relatively easy to do and the institution can make that happen. quickly it's going to mean you know reducing carbon in the cafeterias we're starting with the who is the foods that got irrigators or the guys intentionally i mean how can you one u.k. state when dated media outlet said tailing choice of food that's the big story about the green. deal yeah so what the universe is that is to do is simply to remove b. from campus menus it's really not a huge step you know the beef by far the most environmentally impactful and

destructive of all periods effectively you know in terms of land use deforestation and the emissions that come for it from every kilogram of protein that we get we consume from beef much more destructive than any other category of meat or even dairy and so getting rid of beef is a very simple thing that we can do to dramatically reduce our impact on the planet over and over again in the i.p.c.c. and other uni parts of come out and other scientific reports are coming out saying that you know reducing beef consumption and rich nations like britain is going to be essential to us meeting our political and so really there's nothing extreme about this the students have aligned with existing science and are making you know bold and promising choices for a better future and they know that even the whole spill europe had recently is credited with the religious will rise in world war 2 to levels why do you think what you and your fellow colleagues at goldsmiths it's being framed by the media is students will they be willing to pay higher tuition fees presumably because i did

of the clean energy supplies are not as economic i mean while the creation of the suppliers are actually in many cases in most cases cheaper than the big 6 energy suppliers so that's not an argument but they are concerned about what needs to be done in terms of you know insulating buildings you know removing boiler heaters and shipping to electric heating and so on make everything more efficient in the university which could actually entitle significant cost savings ultimately but you know the principle that we need to defend here is that we once both the transition to you know of. clean green economy rapidly and we also once you know free tuition for higher education i think that those 2 principles are not incommensurable we can fund higher education and the transition to clean energy with progressive taxes making the people that are responsible for this crisis ultimately pay for it and right now we know that our governments are acting too slowly on this issue and so people are ready to take matters into their own hands and what we can do is we can start with our own institutions be it schools or universities or hospitals or even

companies you know creating a policy in the places that we live and work and accomplish his goals well rhetorically anyway we have a climate emergency declared by paula but i mean do you think that i mean young people are also do tories leave remain according to the polls bricks it's good we a key to it and lodging this the green deal across the country because the european union they have subsidies for beef and dairy cattle from enough to rule well it's interesting i mean there's a debate on the left of course about about the climate implications of drugs but ultimately i think that drugs it would be you know potentially catastrophic in terms of our climate change position because you know it's not enough for just the u.k. to take progressive action on climate change we need you know the whole western world in particular to get behind i have never had when britain resumes i think if we do it in up with a progressive governments in power in the u.k. that they you know lobby very hard to make sure that the rest of it you follow suit

and right now those political parties in europe like d m 25 the buyouts for fuck us that are putting together a comprehensive proposal for a green new deal for europe i mean already with the evil doing about the rise of the i don't think this money is the right through your well well i think that there are those who don't even accept climate change i think some of the other there's a strong movement and faith in favor of strong action on this it's just that thus far politicians have not been tapping into that for years you've worked on the topic of growth and illusions about the need for g.d.p. increase and how it correlates to do you. human happiness what do you make of the fact that britain has just seen its growth figures down people saying it's terrible we might go into recession another quarter goes down germany gloomy good predictions just try and compensate for all the media reporting and explain why group is not the key well basically you know when g.d.p. figures start going down and everybody freaks out and i think that this is not the

way to be thinking about it right you know g.d.p. is a relatively arbitrary figure we could measure economic progress and lots of different ways in terms of human of human well being in terms of ecological wellbeing etc etc so what g.d.p. measures is basically demands of nature and human labor that we turn into money and sell every year right so it's not clear that rising g.d.p. has you know is contributing much to the wellbeing of ordinary people in countries like britain and the reason is because the vast majority of new income from group from growth globally goes to the very richest right so you know we can improve people's lives right now give people meaning you meaningful work simply by redistributing what we already you know produce and consume in the economy the income that we already generate rather than plundering the earth for more every year i mean the idea that we should pursue g.d.p. growth and leslie forever at the existing rates is ecologically you know unfeasible and a socially kind of surge and should we need a tax on the 16 year old environmental campaigner growth and big optimistically

that this 16 year old poses such a threat to vested interests i mean we are getting a kickback against the rise in environmental coal just as we read the bill gates and billionaires telling us you know stop complaining things are actually better now than they've ever been in human history. right well in terms of this narrative coming from people like gates and thinker there's a strong narrative that you know we should stop complaining about the way that the global economy operates and distributes income because it's even bigger and bill gates is going. because ultimately they argue that you know near liberalism is also the same done been dramatically reducing poverty etc etc and i think that merits of the empirically flawed so that's something i've been working on recently what do you i mean is it does that mean that basically he's dangerous bill gates i mean this is huge for. philanthropy well of these it's not my job to say whether he's dangerous but my job is to look at that and draw conclusions from what i can tell

you is that the number of people living in poverty has increased dramatically around the world since $180.00. by about 1000000000 people today about 4200000000 people are living in conditions of poverty that's close to 60 percent of the population and interestingly the you know these are the people who deliver the majority of the labor and the resources that the global economy uses every year and yet they get literally pennies for for it in return and i think that's you know fundamentally problematic. so people like get something like look those pennies of the earning are bringing them a lot above this arbitrary poverty line they call it of 1.9 dollars a day but what we know is that living above that level is still living in poverty and scholars have been pointing out that until you have about $7.40 of that minimum you know you can't achieve even basic access to adequate nutrition and health care and life expectancy so if you measure poverty at that level then things are significantly worse today than bill gates and steve pinker would have it so really

they were you know the way i see their narrative is that effectively tries to. take the wind out of the sails of people who are trying to call for a fairer global economy direct our attention away from the problem of growing inequality right and we know that you know since 160 is the per capita income gap between rich countries in the global north and poor countries in global south has quadrupled i mean there's been been this dramatic divergence between north and south over the past half century worsening even since colonial. and that's because you know the rules of the global economy are effectively organized in such a way as to benefit rich nations at the expense of point actions and that's fundamentally something that goes against you know the infrastructure that has allowed people like bill gates to accumulate the kind of wealth of they have accrued because the news has been dominated billed so much my goodness and we're going to actually buy the rioting in hong kong china's growth figures have been hit arguably because of the huge new environmental strategies pursued by beijing whilst

obviously admitting protests as part of any democracy and so on why do you think the media in the countries nato countries are so keen to talk about the rioting and all go the narrative as effective leaders are prone to necrotic protesters against you know. a brutal military state and that's you know that's true and we should support the principle of that of course and china is really a complicated one in this on the one hand we should be able to you know criticize some of its political policies of course but we also need to recognise what is accomplished economically which is has been in many cases to lift people out of poverty at a significantly rapid rate and that's important because this is the one part of the world that was not the design of new liberal policies forcibly imposed on us by western powers right so in the rest of the world in the rest of the global south the world bank and the i.m.f. imposed structural doesn't programs they were effectively kind of this dramatic you know free market shock therapy that was not done in china and. in countries and we've seen significantly more success from those in those areas so but you know but

china success on this front you know which has been using progressive development policy is like you know state guided industrial policy. you know land reform and so on are ultimately against the kinds of principles that people like bill gates and steven pinker and other neo liberals you know call for and that's been a threat to the washington's as a model for a long time every other country in the global south that's brought up policies like that with success has had been reversed by some kind of intervention and i think that china stands. and someone is kind of the last the last man standing really and that is the lesson that i think i think that the trumpet ministration has is really decisive about trying to undermine the ability of trying to continue to pursue those economic objectives which is just a nickel thank you thank you well that's it for the show will be back on monday was legendary james bond villain that just steven berkoff about playing saddam hussein and with his next role will be told from the building can we talk about social media i subscribe to going on the grounds with you channel.

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why a paradise with some all year round turned into a round the experimentation field the agricultural chemicals we know that these chemicals have consequences they are major irritants there's no question otherwise why would that the chemical company workers themselves be geared up and suited up locals attempt to combat the on regulated experiments but often in day you have many of these people one foot into the biotech pharma and the other foot in the government regulatory bodies this kind of collusion is reprehensible while the battle goes on the chemicals continue to poison hawaii and its people so one has to ask the question whether there is a form of environmental research going on in hawaii whether these companies feel they can get away with this because the people have less political power.

to trumpet ministration. congress to permanently reauthorize the suspended mass surveillance program something an outcry from rights groups. u.s. issues a warrant to seize an iranian oil tanker off the supreme court ordered its release earlier this week the vessel was impounded by british royal marines in the mediterranean last month. and the family of a young girl blocked from joining one of germany's most famed boys' choir for gender discrimination cases thrown out by court.