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the day that britain overthrew the democratically elected leader of middle east oil superpower before the coup labour's clement attlee covertly undermined the government of iran's prime minister well most of that then came winston churchill and his men desperate to effectively steal iranian oil the british sent some of their officials their agents to washington and 952 to. put across this idea of carrying out a coup. they did meet with some sympathy from the incoming eisenhower people but i don't believe that i somehow or or his associates needed any convincing i think they. did not want to cede that kind of issue to the british i think they believe that they they knew perfectly well how the world worked and what the united states needed to advance its interests they did not need london to tell them that today venezuelan back t.v. sees the u.k. u.s. crew is more relevant than ever on august 19th
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a mystery more paid for in american dollars took down the democratically elected government of iran an event which changed the course of iran's history and left the 1st ever democratically elected prime minister to be confined to house arrest where he died on august 11th this year donald trump announced i'm not going to rule out a military option we have many options for that as well well one act play the dictator backed by the u.s. and u.k. steven berkoff after saddam of iraq in a place a disgraced film executive a new monologue harvey he joins me now stephen welcome to going underground tell me about harvey it's about power and results well i think it is i think you absolutely something up correctly it is about power massaging and here's a man who has been accused vilified of attack by the whole family but the thing is he's very famous he's very successful he's made extraordinary inventive and powerful movie. is that makes a mother bit more of
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a target because he's so celebrated so here's a man who so celebrate his accuse of being a kind of. sexual predator and i think his fame has inflated the crime enormously of course what is it there's always a criticism made about men who make films or plays or productions about this subject david mamet famously with all the honor in the ninety's yes they were allowed i think there's been a few i think there's been a few films linking that subject but of course not so many but i think it's good to somehow corrupted by hollywood hollywood has made much of the movie industry. determined by sex and by the way exposure of scenes which years ago when they had the these sensors would be allowed and now they feel they
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can't make a movie unless you've got a very raw seen any of his call your artistic license you know they're all that and so it's only become a kind of sexually exploitive industry where women actresses who are very serious actresses feel that they have got to be sexy desirable allow shares their way even as you make the point you know every that's always been the case there are 11 or a keeps popping up in your movie has no it's been the case but i think it started maybe with marilyn monroe because i mean she was so desirable and she did what she was told to do and but she studied hard and became a very talented comic actress but before anyone thinks it's just about women male relationships obviously about male male relationships in the hollywood industry as well but in whole we. plus rather than identity makes entrance that these
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some of these moguls are not from the kind of upper class backgrounds over there would that element and well they're they're from oh very different backgrounds talking about their origins they come from far eastern europe when they were escape from those russian dictatorships and fled to america which was the night of the mill konami and they started off with a shrug to business and that's what they all did and then along came those little you know 210 cent arcades where you could see movies and they thought this is good we never get into this because there are virtually banned from every other respectable industry even under the university trained people so they couldn't be in architecture teaching banking bit medicine so they could go into trades that had not been yet monopolise so after the penny arcades which were in new york they went to hollywood made the silent movies and then became the great moguls and their
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background is a rough. background fraught with all sorts of stresses and strains and kind of endeavored to make it and they became the great moguls of hollywood but and they behaved in russia the and people escaping stalin and so on why is it that it's hollywood that is renowned for this. not so much i don't know berlin or. the books go over and say beaches but was it los angeles i think one of the main reasons is that they want to circulate the films around the world and they want to have something that is a big seller and sex is the big seller i think in european countries and france and germany they still have a high culture and still do and therefore they're looking for films i have a meaning and i have something that says something that is expressive and unusual and dynamic and. raw and historic and that moves you and they made films you know
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especially the french industry i was brought up in the french films the great movies in the movies like goes over the property with rome and the sex scenes in there were gentle but subtle and they were just looks and glances and they were very mainly meaningful vacating that old hollywood code of war definitely one foot on the. floor absolutely is to arrange too much the artist is not showing how she can play shakespeare or for tennessee williams is based on how sexy she is so when i see them do it in you to marry white houses or ground out i'm not at all this is i'm more of a artist found for great art absolutely i think it's nothing to do white house i think she climbed the bandwagon though she had a point i want to see artistry and power and getting less and less of that well obviously commodification segues is one thing we're commodification
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a villain you've always you have played a lot of villains have yes. i mean i want to go through some of those people waited for dinner with. not only tony blair is never of the way of saying he doesn't regret the iraq war just remind us a little bit about that played into what the was written by a very very good writer and to me how to words you know one of the men your little theater in south london and he described how in. iraq at the time. there was such a fear of saddam hussein 10 a terrifying fear but also he was on the hit this or the cia and they were looking for him everywhere that it would what he would do his lieutenants would go out and scout around the town and not for a house the family knock on the door and say. we have a very important person which is to stay here for the night. and they look at the
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uniform with him oh yes of course it is. you know great leaders saddam hussein wanted to say nothing you could which of course of course and then he would come in good evening and. if he's lost and then he sit down at the dinner table in the course the cia couldn't find them because they go to a different house every single night there was a very very clever play that added harder with throat i thought it was brilliant which tempted me to go back into the theater and the critics vilified him which i thought was astonishing there's a the idea of showing this was astonishing so when he's at the table having dinner the role terrified and then he goes and tells them why he does what he does and how he is not the villain he's been subsidized and supported by the american military industry who supplied with all those kind of horrible nerve gases and it's
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a very it was a very clever plays of that was a good role of saddam hussein enjoyed doing now to go but i den my main villain i've ever played of course was out of hitler which i did in the the eighty's and that was a amazing thing to happen and i was very happy to. say that so you're mainly in theater you know doing or you would particularly at the will but tell me about a doctor and what you've done with doctor because it may be a stretch but i don't know with edward snowden and his. revelations about mess of a let's come into your 2. with her doctor he was my treatment it was a treatment a by a very very. articulate very clever german writer called philip. how mo. and he had this idea of making a modern version of se i think he called of the 2nd book of follows
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i didn't even know the 1st one really because a complicated had to read but the main thing is you it it is of how you sell your soul to achieve something which before was totally a dream cheever bow desirable. that your life is less without this things who you saw as we all do we sell our souls yourself yet i don't buy that as one thing i've never done i've never sold my soul never why i don't work that much i reject easy shaadi the simple idiot. kind of expressions of on the movies the fast over the makes the pact with the devil to good as version no which version this is it is good to hear this is good his version makes a pact so that he would have eternal life had every kind of wonderful
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exotic food or drink and then he's agreed to this and of course eventually but the devil does mephistopheles is that he makes a pact to qantas have it for nothing if there is a lease a time limit and you can have this wonderful life for a limit of maybe i think it was 10 or 20 years but then the time comes up and he's just knocking on the door saying you only have a few moments left because this version of it's been up. lated yes and what is it a pact with technology they don't have i've found a little bit confusing. it was a from the original confusing but it's very daring and it's very very exciting because if it is a very skilled painter and sculptor and so it's visually very toxic
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creating and very seductive and very. it's very very high be imaginative and i hope it's coming out soon. from steven berkoff after this break. interest rates spike gapping and the spread is widening in what i call the interest rate apartheid if you're in the wrong side of the premise of geoffrey epstein you end up in m bantustan of extortion ery credit card rates if you're a friend of jeffrey epstein then you get the insider rate of negative and you get paid to lend money or to borrow money from from the bank. cash calendar is all forms are among. those chasing page dard. whose 1st
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words were how long a seer a challenging post you've got 2 years to live. i have no doubt that what happened was scriven. let's concentrate market is a $1000000000.00 industry these companies have a huge financial motivation to solve these problems there are numerous stocks showing that doctors who are keen to chest x. ray concentrates for infectivity on their patients won't give them doctors the room . on the plate. current stuff why they would give me consecutive doses day. and people still die i don't know which question was so i tried being hard to leave so many have. joined me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guests of
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the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. welcome back i'm still with steven berkoff the american people made a pact with trump when they voted him in you see him in as a villain trump because he's made of a little v.c. by liberal elites in this country and in the later states i think the big donald of course is one of the great villains of the 21st century and they can't be nobody more villainous please don't do this this is the thing why he captures the crowd he's not deliberately villainous he's just fake they can't be nobody more stupid
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than told probably invite the u.s. ambassador on to refute that delegation stupid because when we have all these killings in america he said well he has to deal with a guy you know that troubled their mental. 90 percent of the population is mental because that's the human being is imperfect so you don't put in front of them things that are going to kind of cause them to do create havoc why something could go in 2 of my local shop and get an assault rifle i might one day get frustrated why this didn't give me work i didn't get that it's too easy it is the gun of course which is the single most provocative. thing weapon to have and instead say let's stop this you can't have guns no assault rifles no military rifles and he card why because he's simple
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minded is he's stupid general and stupid people get together to do this there's a sense of superiority safe from britain in criticizing trump in that way britain is involved in a lot of us was just yes what do you make of that because obviously the gun topic is relatively easy to answer in most countries reality right i mean we've been supplying arms to saudi arabia for years and we we are we're up to elbows and blood even if we are trying to be politically aware we don't know what goes on in the gun manufacturers and the weapons industry is not put in the newspaper is hardly on the internet we don't know how many tanks planes even very highly sophisticated weapons are shipped over to the middle east so that we can keep our what we talked about petitions on this program about for instance the saudi arabian arms contract and politicians on this program say that the saudis are threatened no security
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corporation that we bombs on british streets that we don't sell the weapons to there's a kind of like a you know quid pro quo you know we we can do some evil as long as the other one kind of visit 1st vax has very interesting and yes very very famous and well that's terrible but the. pen's industry has always been there will always be there and the only reason it is there is because some kind of vom you know hypocrite will say well if we don't do it the belgians will and the scandinavians with a huge amen history i was so particular the russians and so special that we are there and someone else will get someone else will do it but getting back to trump. he is a kind of villain that he associates with other villains so people have all humanistic in light and caring he regards him as kind of cheap. you know you have been in this country long enough for your hand yet he will adore murderers
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like putin who is guilty of some need this blowing up planes invading countries invading leaving trump likes cruise ill and obviously the russian government denies these allegations why do you think they cause he's powerful and he is also a belligerent. kamin. navigator into the weakness of societies and he sees in tribe a very weak man he looks weak he's soft he's soggy and therefore he is malleable and. whatever and even the country russia now is no longer nearly as powerful putin is he has a power that trump kind of only envy he's been in power for 20 years but it is being blamed also as you say you're saying rusher isn't that powerful but
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he has been blamed also of stirring up things you have a brics that some people even saying he was part of the brics that yes. what do you think i mean obviously people there are other peoples who say it's the stuff of hollywood fiction goody that you apologize just the other day to one of these journals about this fake news you know on this channel on russia i mean. do you think breaks it. you think bricks it will be of interest to putin i think he would be number one on his list if he could through his various means and through of course through people in propaganda in the internet can sow seeds of doubt about a united europe which is a far bigger thing and a mighty entity and a fantastic family of powerful nations if we can engineer some way to break that up over that feather in its cap that it has now have to deal with them because europe
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if it's over 101 for all that sounds like you want to play putin in the near future where maybe maybe. but no absolutely putin would be in line for that and it's a pity because at the podium got rid of all these tiny little states because that started then with him saying we've got a $100.00 states in germany let's have one state. and at that time the people of the 18th century they said oh god no no we will lose out though she will lose our powers will lose our independence so we lose our individuality but germany that was germany became one state and had been one state for this 100 years so that is a powerful thing you come together you unite the things that don't work and things about europe of course which are offensive to his head as all actors in the main although we have interviewed a few all the good ones are a against breck's it in this kind of way i'm going to ask i mean to be the 1st to
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say soviet union or britain side against fascism against not ism i understand you're working on. something about fascism in this very says here it's not only a little bit about it but they're trying to do a bit of writing in their words i live in these and of london and of course i'm fascinated by these the history of all the things that i've read about which i never mention televisions or know dramatizes films and they basically ignore one of the greatest events in eastern history was the march through the east end in 1934 by oswald mosley and 3000 nero fascist nazi thugs and they were unable to do this by a government said well we ought to have free speech you can march and can demonstrate and a 2 or $3000.00 police a company of moe's they as they attempted to march to the east end and they thought well one of them was impoverished communities 0 $1.00 of the most on trial which
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could come totally and they thought they were marched through cable street because it was narrow and of the jews where they have lived they had quite a few 1000 people there tens of thousands lived there maybe in those at that time probably close to $100000.00 but they were very powerful people they were just ordinary regular workers tabor's than the chip makers that they were ready to stop mostly and so they put an overturned lorry is all they could do and it would be much against the power of $3000.00 fascists with with boots and clubs and chains and then a wonderful thing happened the only time the jews have had an ally to support them they've had people who've they ignore them or not persecuted them back and nothing to do with them but suddenly from what pain. all these hundreds and hundreds of irish dockworkers to support the cheese was amazing and why that
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was is because julia very famous doc strike all the doctors once tried because they're getting paid and they walked and demonstrated and they didn't want could leave the babies at home they went with their wives and so the juice it would take the baby for the day they just stood there. watching them and they took the babies and the irish difficult it's so when the moses came to march the irish dock workers came up and they were tough and they waited for them and they fought and they. got it or this fascist scattered they ran away screaming you know they couldn't believe it because the jews were fighting back and causing havoc and that was the 1st time and the only time that the police actually said to moses you know i've prayed you don't get very wide if you do you think we're going to be big trouble and they start from then on marches of political nature through england
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also the wearing of provocative uniforms because they had the liberty to wear the kind of nazi black uniforms so that was pivotal moment in the struggle because i was so yes because jeremy corwin the leader of western europe's largest socialist movement at the moment has relatives who were on the cable street much you had we all had relatives in the sense not a great friend of german cool but well i don't care for him too much with these 2 week he doesn't make a strong enough statement about the the hands of the semitism in his country or the more overt gestures justified by going to because the people are pro israel and israel does not have a good reputation had their moment understandably under that guy and netanyahu. please god will get rid of soon because i think he's done terrible things for the
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reputation is he right the israeli ambassador to go on to refute that but why i mean you've been historically as as it would the left and corbin has been is clearly seen as the most left wing leader the bullet is ever had with the widest membership grassroots membership in generations why would someone. you oppose a person who finally is on the cusp of power leading and what you see of the poll is something about the left and the right you believe isn't a semitic no i believe that he lets kind of that sours stanch advantage semitism per we ate the parts he not to offend his friends in the middle east to show he's sympathetic understandably to their needs and to the situation in israel between the palestinians and the israelis and he doesn't want to look too much as if he's for you know against kind
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of that form of nasty anti semitic hysteria is always fought against fascism or as at least famous picture of him being arrested of course. we all did then but there's something about the left and right that issue creep over to the left is like circling the world your comeback and you end up facing me of the right so there's something about the extreme left which is actually very right wing and starts to identify itself with the most extreme positions of racist right wing states. as he is. famous for his association with hamas and the p.l.o. so i think he's gone so far left that he's standing up is. not a good left i did like the left because i was there for you know my father was
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a labor voter as i was but now i've gone away from them i find that there's a stench. and then when he supported. president who has caused such havoc. he's committed political murder and the nation is. sent. in inflation and he supports same it's to me this is. unbelievable i'm the speakable and intolerable so that man should be a minute is a sin to this nation well we'll be having live in israel for a minstrel this program steve a work of thank you and that's it for the show will be back on wednesday we're going on the growing season finale with legendary journalist and filmmaker john pilger until then keep in touch by this week and don't forget to check.
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so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. let it be an arms race off and spearing dramatic development only. exist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very cave to kill time to sit down and talk. i'm. kind of curious. in this community there are people who believe that it's ok. it's really hard there
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are no jobs and you see that i've got kids that ask and as a parent. i can come up with lots of arguments and there's a lot of conflict within the game and between the 2 teams most of the conflicts i would say are over balls around money and most of them money is made. close one on the children's cosimo each other is good business the state of california alone makes $6000000000.00 a year of prison complex just to get some 20 alive where. you don't care anymore nobody cares about you so you don't care might anything.
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