community. we must stop meeting like this. take the position you were raised. repeat after me i swear by almighty god i swear by almighty god the evidence i shall give evidence i shall give you the truth shall be the truth hopefully the whole truth and nothing nothing but the truth the state richard john. i was diagnosed very light at the age of 3 as i spent

a lot of time in hospital the doctors didn't know what was wrong with my neck. i was getting. all over my body. richard has a form of hemophilia a rare and severe inherited disorder that impairs the blood's ability to clot the slightest injury agrees an internal bleed or even just a bruise could cause irreparable damage i'm using around ranging ricker it is easy for me we're going to. every day richard inject himself with the blood clotting agent factor 8 these days it's sterile and safe but in the mid seventy's and early eighty's a treatment like this infected about 5000 people in the u.k. with either h i n v 0 hypnotises c. or even both. richard was a month and he had to undergo a series of treatments. are very cross.

side effects mood swings and sweating and. after take. drugs. in the 1970 use a new drug called factor 8 was released to using human blood it promised a much easier life for him a philly x. they no longer needed to go to hospital and could self administered the treatment by injection at any time or convenient place. but it had one fatal flaw or about which patients knew nothing until too late. one. of your treatment might contain the donation of 4050000 people. a lot of products in the u.k. came from america and one of the things we now know. the people giving those.

people who maybe were in prison. and i encouraged to give that. to provide. this is a result showing that you were 8 feet 3. years and you weren't. were you told that you were being not. because. the drugs don't move and the brutes and ankle supports have saved me a few times because sometimes you walk and you roll your own call and if i didn't

have these on i would have very bad bleed through one girl's. like other he was fairly x. martin has problems with joints mainly his knees and elbows caused by internal bleeding. and was diagnosed within a full year about the age of 6 months old. growing goal with hemophilia back then for a parent it was a nightmare children there always were in falling over buying in themselves and i would have all kinds of internal bleeds and damage to my joints. martin was under constant medical care 1st at birmingham children's hospital and at the age of 17 he was sent to an adult facility. i remember being in the white american and my name is called out now the doctor doesn't even introduce himself

his 1st words were hello a c. or a child he paused i didn't understand the significance of what he was saying because i was a healthy teenager a my words to him were all well that's a loss event goes on to say that your life for the next 2 years and then i said what do you mean by that. and he goes you got 2 years to live. that 20 hit me. so we rode back to birmingham and got a letter that says on it that i was tested in 1900. without my knowledge i was found to be positive but it also says that i found an old sample of my blood from mountain $93.00 and i was positive then. but i could have been working on why i could have been sleeping with somebody and it would have more to for me if i have infected

a girl what gives them doctors the wrong time to play god brought up a risk or the people's laws why didn't they tell me. in 1981 i knew had previously unheard of disease was discovered in the united states acquired immune deficiency syndrome aids. in january 982 with the 1st hemophiliac contracted aids in the us in more cases have been recorded by the end of the year 8 of which were terminal. despite this great britain continue to import american factories. are you proud of your all the new jump. up and lots of you call him. ever jerry jerry j.j. sure.

my dad lived with him ophelia. really did all want. to get his way the time it was kind of an odd thing the song people. say here with area in the air cartons easy. saws and swinging. wood around the shop things. you know that sick let me go i was. crazy for. a mary thank those videos because it's the evidence why memory doesn't have. it's it was a father to me and he raised me and was doing everything a father should do. towards the late seventy's he sees fit to concentrates because that's where the doctor saw

him and everyone i'll see use. may 1983 so the 1st reported case of the british hemophiliac contracting the disease. appeared in the press claiming that factor 8 was a safe. in november of 84 he raised concerns about the products with he stopped and they told him this is just sensationalism it's fine you know don't worry they convinced him to carry on using fats concentrate and then it was only shortly after that the his 1st choice b. tests came back as opposed to. things just very difficult for a strain on the relationship with my mom you know they'd only got married and nothing their life went from being one of planning for the future to planning for the end. he took to new

statements about one of the worst things being the feeling of sticking that. with relation to. in the early days christian people don't get i was right you were lower. i mean when we found out that he was positive felt such fear never felt little it's not the fear of what he might suffer it's it's social it's everything it's children it's housing it's your careers everything is gone it was something to be ashamed of even though we did nothing wrong he did nothing wrong i bring a prominent locally and then one night i walked into a pole to play mama and the landlord just pointed out mate and said you get out

the pool tame i've been playing with my all still there not one of them thought to be from me i hope sick. and i felt dead. this was a classic case of. well informed it. doesn't take away the fact that it made me feel a lot rubbish. my dad lost his job among got sidetracked her job they received hate mail phone calls making fun of the stigma is incredible it's this whole thing though if you had a view you a gay or you druggies or or some kind of what they saw to be an desirable person.

by 9190 nights a he'd become verio. he had progressed to say it's only opportunistic infections using off way slowly going through a horrible death. and. by the end of my 3. news news that. jason evans founded the independent campaign group factor 8 its members of the immediate relatives of him affiliates who died because of contaminated blood products his organization provides them with legal help. i really only had one goal when i got involved in campaigning on this subject i wanted it on the official record that what happened could and should have been avoided i think after that

point maybe there's room for that as support for people counseling and compensation and all these other things but i think for me. they want on the record that there is life billets and that. interest rates spike and gapping and the spread is widening into what i call a just right apartheid if you're in the wrong side of the premise of geoffrey epstein you bantustan of extortion ery credit card rights if you're a friend of jeffrey epstein then you get the insider rate of negative and you get paid to lend money or to borrow money excuse me from from the bank.

who i paradise with around to and into a ground experimentation field for agricultural chemicals we know that these chemicals have consequences they are major irritants there's no question otherwise why would the chemical company workers themselves be geared up that suited up locals attempt to combat the on regulated experiments but often in day you have many of these people one foot into the biotech pharma and the other foot in the government regulatory bodies this kind of collusion is reprehensible while the battle goes on the chemicals continue to poison hawaii and its people so one has to ask the question whether there is a form of environmental research going on in hawaii whether these companies feel they can get away with lives because the people have less political power.

we can see which perhaps most clearly important document to date stamp 10th of september 1976 so very soon after you would have been starting it should all go home and we can see the words have otitis rights with the existence of a risk of have a tie to something you or your parents were aware of the time last fall. we have a cash cow and that is dari alfonzo mongery has died. he's died in. his dark unless one of the page service generation paid change dard. to live in years of age richard went to trial lawyers college a special boarding school for children with disabilities. there's an n.h.s. health center on the campus students could receive the medical care they needed and attend classes all in the same place. it's also the signs of the greatest

concentration of contaminated blood cases that the u.k. has ever seen. ringback busy what it. is that you receive significant quantities of fats or a sort of prophylactic base. they were crazy about. aren't 2 real target joints nose mild left me in the right. for our current system why they would give me consecutive doses day after day. great britain will be self-sufficient in blood products and will guarantee their purity. it was the government's promise in the 1970s. when she government came in that pledge in the name went away and they found a way around the. importing this particular product. all these

issues were very often in meetings of 1015 people but they were all held in secret no one was allowed to publish the minutes of the meeting. the main beneficiaries of that secrecy were pharmaceutical companies. these companies have a huge financial motivation to sow these problems today. the fact concentrate market is a 1000000000 dollar industry in order for me to say our product is safe for the next companies they needed a trial date that showed we've used this product and it's not infectious and in this country at least the dot is. often as consultants to the pharmaceutical home as there are numerous documents showing that doctors in oxford doctors in cardiff work keen to test facts or a concentrates infectivity on their patients to all hemophilia since directors.

initial production batches may have been tested for infectivity by injecting them into chimpanzees it is unlikely that the manufacturers will be able to guarantee this form of quality control for all future batches it is therefore very important find out why studies in human beings to what extent the infectivity of the various concentrates has been reduced. the reason they used humans instead of chimpanzees was one because chimpanzees were expensive and essentially patients were free when they don't know that experiment we tried to speak to the pharmaceutical companies that produced factor 8 at the time over the last 50 years they have changed names and ownership several times and none wanted to talk about the contaminated blood issue now. what we know now is that the trolls are also conducting tests regularly and keeping records of liver function tests which

made you think ok so what are we actually looking for figuring in a safe product or if you want to monitoring how you live. if you take a sales are you cd for care i would be looking at racing. out of the 80. 9 hemophiliacs who went to train those college 72 died. and people are still dying. from liver related problems to have a charge say. i actually feel guilty i'm still here i asked myself the question why am i still alive when you know 70 percent of the him feel that boy use the rats college. i've had and i don't care and i'm always crushing me so why me

i why my son i live by being allowed to live when so many have and. the official claim was that the new medicines were safe the most emphatic statement to that effect was from kenneth clark health secretary under margaret thatcher's government. i think someone that really has a lot to answer for as a minister is kang. the well known kenneth clark actually stood up for an argument and said there is no conclusive proof. is transmitted through blood products he really needs to answer for putting out that type of misinformation and this was the reply we received from kenneth clocks office krista clarke has chosen to decline through what's been and from the u.k. department of health the infected blood inquiry is

a cabinet of its leader and therefore they will be the ones best placed on see or questions beyond that initial acknowledgement the cabinet office has not responded to our request. and all we could find on the official u.k. national health service website was a report mentioning that victims are entitled to apply for compensation. 2019 and for the 1st time the u.k. government agreed to hear what the victims had to say a public inquiry was opened in london and jason evans group factory is taking part in it is finally happening it's been. a long road and this is a this train journey is one that i say him countless times over the last 34 years. even before jason was born his father was aware of the deadly disease. in spite of

the risk of passing on the contamination his baby was born. after i think about how would i have dealt with what my dad went. next year i'll be the same age my dad was when he died. i think about if i was to die that next year at that age that would have been really a very short life. that weighs heavily on my mind. oh in 1803 tina and. yes. accident shall we say. the wife knew pretty soon after and she went to see her doctor. and. we were advised really in no uncertain terms.

to look at. it was all in those few months all mixed up together and at the time we were still reeling from the shock and the implications of dealing with the diagnosis i could have been positive in which case what we you know we were bringing approach child at that time to be an orphan if you to come into the world we didn't know how long we have or the child could have been positive as well as me in which case was it morally right to give birth to a child that i be you know suffered terribly i couldn't walk away from a man who i s'posed to the world. just when he needed me in worlds. and once we found out that i was ok afterwards. he. realized that if i was going to be a mother it wouldn't be with richard and i just say with richard he said you're

a perfect stream really loving and supportive wife yes she's shifting to me. as it. is so great sadness to base this feeling that you have to have children. anything you. have to say at the time it seemed easy i didn't feel as if we had any choice. only lazy a thing. but. martin

bed was also thinking of starting a family his girlfriend was a nurse at the hospital where he received his treatment. i've got the dial m. earth hemophilia pass and not on the don lemon or of a child of a not just infecting her but possibly possibly on to children as well so took the decision after about a year to split tilt so that hopefully she could go off and have a family of our on and thankfully she did and we're still friends on facebook so you know and she seems happy which is good. this is a very very apt rebate and that such a. very loyal dogs rottweilers are very protective as wild.

animals are one of the greatest comfort she can ever offer. because you can have the lousiest day in the world when you walk in that house and the dogs are pleased to see you. dogs know when you're in i mean i know when you're in trouble and. it's soothing. the. 2 attempts were made over 40 years to investigate the causes of this medical disaster in the u.k. but so far no one has been held accountable. the current inquiry is goal is to gather evidence the final decision about how to proceed after that will wrist with the government. i have very doubt that what happened was criminal i think the real

question is to what degree was it credible i mean nothing bad better we're talking about some form of criminal negligence and perhaps corporate manslaughter perhaps as high as murder and i think the inquiry can help direct in some way where where those lines made. their criminal prosecutions have been brought in other countries and they have been successful particularly in france whether they will be brought in this country i suspect not the reason they won't bring them though the crown prosecution service won't be directed to bring those prosecutions it's because it's widely accepted that they would be successful and the only way they can avoid a successful prosecution is to avoid bringing it up. the public inquiry is expected to continue for at least 2 to 3 years too late for

the victims who have already died and to long for those still fighting for their lives every doing morning. first witnesses. it was so bright. i was told about a year to live it was a hard time it's so frightfully experience it wasn't a life. really try for exams anymore because we did a few years so we will actually. i don't feel calmer it. came out the else 20. like it isn't don't just want to sit down the house hard enough is no way should have to do that we just wanted to be with them. and i believe now is the time to justice. and all we ask for is recognition of our

rights a meaningful recompense for the largess we've had some cruelly stolen from us. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy. let it be an arms race and if this offends very dramatic development the only posts really

exists i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical. to sit down and talk. in this community there are people who believe that it's ok. it's really hard there are no jobs and you see that i've got kids that ask and as a parent. i can come up with arguments and there's a lot of conflict within the game between the close of the conflict i would say. is made. close one of the children's cosimo each other is good because the state of

california alone makes $6000000000.00 a year of prison complex just to get some point in your life where. you don't care anymore nobody cares about you so you'll care mind anything. glad to may appear to and a man well mccrone discuss the ukraine conflict and the iran crisis in a friendly encounter on the french riviera. the u.s. conducts its 1st test launch of a mid range cruise missile since putting out from an arms treaty with russia. and a british social media network aimed at young british muslims is revealed to be part of a government plan to tackle by the collides ation. comments it for me andrew farmer will be him next hour with all the latest news headlines from around the world stay with us now for crosstalk.