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we are surprised sometimes when young men and women are killed in places no one even knew that we had a military installation there that's it from me will be here next hour to take you through the latest headlines from around the world i just said is cross talk breaking down the results of the recent g. 7 summit. hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle host g. 7 what is the lay of the land calls for unity demonstrate the opposite also iran is again in the spotlight just what is trumps foreign policy in this volatile region.
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across talking some real news i'm joined by my guests going dees and he is a professor at the higher school of economics as well as author of that a case of western civilization and resurgence of russia we also have to me is a political analyst and editor at interest me internet media project and in london we crossed alexander mackerras is a writer on legal affairs as well as the editor in chief of the duran dot com or a german cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i'm very happy to be back from vacation and i'm glad that have all 3 of us on this program today it's but was a good big cation but we have much to talk about let me go to alexander it's been a few days since the g. 7 i came to an end one of the probably the most useless annual event in the world right now. and the interesting thing is looking at the news coverage of it particularly in the west it's all about trump everything's about trump and i think that really blindsides almost everyone looking at how international relations are
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evolving and the relationship the between the united states and the european union it seems to be floundering for a number of reasons or so eloquently curiously euro greek ok and greeks are really tough language but i know 2 good words in greek it's hubris and stace s. and that's how i see the european union meeting donald trump in france go ahead alex well well i think that's actually a very good because hubris is of course the when you have this overwhelming sense of pride which makes you aspire to more than you really can all should be and invite nemesis down upon yourself stassi this is when you can't actually shift because you are in such a divine position that there is no real possibility of movement it is a condition that exists within states or indeed within a law and says and i think that actually describes very well the situation with the g.c.c. . because on the one hand or at least with the european part of the g 7 because on
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the one hand they can't except that they doing anything wrong in international affairs even though they see the united states is gradually drifting away from them and you are absolutely right to say personalizing it all around donald trump is a huge mistake there are deeper reasons why this is happening at the same time they can't really shift their own paullus is to just because they are so divided amongst themselves on so many issues that they can't really come up with. and a good example very briefly is relations with russia some are talking about improving relations with russia macross says that but when it comes to taking any step at all even the token one of readmitting russia to the g 8 they can't bring themselves. to divide the hubris of that alexander me curious is that no one's even
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asked of russia 100 stiv join the newly reformed ga but maybe we'll talk about that another time when you know glenn it seems to me and in many ways looking at the characters. at the summit here. the european union is stuck in 2014 i mean you know this whole issue of bringing up russia which kind of surprised me ok. obviously the united states is not thinking about its relationship with its european allies it's looking at what it's doing and what it should do or shouldn't do with china and we have this whole steve bannan concept again of trying to bring russia into the fold which i think that train has left the station years ago again it shows the blindness and the the arrogance of western political elites who are so 2014 it seems to me they're stuck there and they can't move away from it. i think that's what i like sandra summarize quite well. they recognize something is wrong.
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pointed out that if you create a europe without russia it pretty much automatically becomes a europe against russia as we've seen with this continuous expansion of europe's moralist maintains it's there are some relations so something has to give. and i guess. going back and trying to undo all the things we've done wrong since the ninety's is of course very challenging especially for institutions such as the e.u. which doesn't really have much capacity to to change its course it is significant you have the capacity to learn i'm sorry say the obvious you know good comment because the the g 7 or g 8 it's quite pointless organizations to begin with because if you want to really deal with the pressing issues of the world you need china and russia so this should really make it a g 9 than if. it was right but that's assuming that they even want to join something like that they don't they don't because it's the palace to let me go to game here. we're kind of in agreement here that the the e.u.
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members of the g 7 that are in the e.u. they're stuck in 2014 is it because they can't admit that they were wrong about so maybe things well the problem is that the united states and the you cannot meet and that they were all on anything you know they revolt us could be wrong you know because they. don't know radicals but not is not it's not. really but it. is not wrong you know it's just bad person it's you know bad characters who make it malfunction but it's not just you know ukraine and russia it's not just crimea to take a more obvious issue here when you know the congress passed their bipartisan resolution requiring and american involvement but trumping can you still follow my knee. and obscene to saudi arabia even though now it becomes apparent that the united arab emirates are leaving you know they they've basically destroyed the
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country you know there is and you will see what was going on now between the sultan a yemeni separatist and the process would you go into in yemen so that country was ruined the quote response there is a reaction but drama continues to ignore it and on russia you know a super rashi's warse then the war in yemen you know or russia they made it a lot you know that these sanctions will be there trying cannot ignore them so russia is seen as something even more evil than the war yet at the same time let me go back to london here but i think there's a there is a at least among realist in looking and what's going on in the world and so much is going on that the western media ignores partly because it's more entertained by either supporting or trashing trump is that the the you cannot solve many of these world's problems without russia being at the table and i think that this goes back to my question to bob which is that they can admit they were wrong about that and they said that and this is what's really causing the deadlock here. going back to
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that word hubris go ahead alex yes well this well this is exactly right i mean the macro made this extraordinary speech after the g. 7 and of course it builds on some of the comments he made in a press conference he had when he. did just before the g 7 in which he said you know that russia is a european country russia soldiers in europe driving russia away would be a strategic mistake it would weaken the west it would create conflict there but then when it comes to. actually proposing anything he comes out with nothing at all it is doing. who are supposed to changed. policy is to somehow reconcile themselves to your firm with your account with that in and the euro be part of the club but that's not going to have been ok do you want to know the
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problem with monk wrong is that he says all the right things and then he behaves you know in the wrong way what do you how do you account for the well he accused the ultra liberals and for all of them allies that led french to become yellow vests but he is the ultra liberal some self you know no he's talking about pushing russia out of europe and it being a mistake he was there ron who said our sport think we're not media he basically you know addressing the french journalist you said the following they these people they imitate your 4 months but they're no 2 you cannot join them so this sort of new new racism when you're basically denied the credentials of your opponents you know you are not a journalist you are not a citizen so you can be destroyed but the problem is that again facts are against these western aid which is take you clean you know ok we're stuck in 2014 the
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president whom they brought to power in 2014 by illegal means you know by actually an armed coup he lost the election and lost it in a humiliating way the media can movie and you know he's a go home and there's no leave and you know absolutely disgraced aided by the people and they pretend not to notice it's only putin who attacked the ukraine you know where next crimea included in among the european countries that are probably 70 i mean is this a crisis of leadership. well there is snow in the leadership i get it i know it's a lack of leadership but i think they also boxed himself in to some extent because they even much identifies itself as being this community of values soon as you link all your foreign policy issues towards values and some any dissent can be shamed. piece meant or betraying you know the virtuous or the great values they hold so it's so i guess from the perspective they have locks themselves in water what can
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you really do when you. when russia said well what happened in ukraine most effectively you know your it's been expanding to our borders at some point we have to react and this was the reaction instead of addressing these issues how we see europe set up where is our conflict of interest how can we find a compromise of national interest essentially saying no no this was you know good versus bad and the way you know you have peace is if good defeats or it will go to 07 i mean let me go back to alexander machir is in london last minute for this part of the program here i mean don't you think that brussels within the context of g 7 they're afraid of a reproach more between the united states in russia because in the european union find itself squeezed and even more irrelevant the last 40 seconds to you alex absolutely that he sticks i think that he's very much a fear we saw that very evidently last year when it will cause in the run up to the grant summit in helsinki part of the reasons for reaching out to russia at the
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moment is because they're afraid that if they don't the united states will go back to what glenn said i mean the fact that they have this value foreign policy that doesn't give them flexibility it's exactly the point of stassi that you made at the start of the program starts this is when you can't do is stop you can't move and they can move well i'm really glad i chose 2 words agreed to they know to start their program india in the 1st of the breakup. we're going to go to a quick break gentlemen after a short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news stay with our to.
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officer. told to get up off the ground began to down. democrats on the sounds of an mit grown man the christening essentially. through his. wish to do away from the office or. out of his crib. the obvious or did they kind of lunge for the web in one smith's and then when it happened on she swung at god she didn't hit him i never saw any contact with. any kind of went back to where they were so the answer is back here they're high again 15 feet apart at this point and that's when the officer pulled out his gun and he bit on tree. the global insurrection against banker occupation which started that really before occupy wall street before the revolution in cairo before obviously there's you know in france or the protests and
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they're all connected all these protests are connected they're all connected to a rebellion against we have money and banks are all global and treasury and bank right. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok let's switch gears slightly here because we had during the g 7 we had president mccrone inviting the iranian foreign minister to be on the periphery which is interesting in itself it shows the difference that france and other european countries in the g 7 collectively. have opposed to the american administration donald trump's maximum pressure what does that mean to you in what it's mccrone trying to do it looks like it's some kind of leadership bid since everything else
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he's done in his presidency has failed why should we assume that this might but this is an opening in going to talk about how the israelis and the saudis are reacting to it. i think it was a good move but i was afraid for several reasons for one. i guess iran represents the most irrational component of trumps foreign policy the most hawkish and it doesn't really go anywhere so i guess finding a way for america. to bring them back a bit i think it would be a good opportunity but also because their piece of committed to staying with the nuclear agreement if america can backtrack a bit perhaps you know the west could come together so i think it was a very good move and furthermore i guess the 3rd argument would be that. everyone's more or less recognizing the. the campaign against iran now seems to be failing i mean syria the syrian war seems to be over yemen is taking a turning point now that the united arab emirates and the saudis are seem to be splitting up in the campaign against them and. don't worry these really say that
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they make it involved in here again. this while it doesn't seem that the iranians can be intimidated in terms of you know sitting there trying to retaliate against the british so essentially there is this huge push back from iran so this maximum pressure is failing so trying to find a way of sort of the interesting thing to me is that we considering the huge difference between the europeans to trumpet ministration on iran it's the european union is actually hoping the trumpet ministration find a way out of this this policy that is dead and policy that it is not effective and it's not well thought out because what they don't have an option this is bad foreign policy when you never give yourself an option and it can only be one way in that way is feeling go ahead you know we of course. was a challenge to the united states because the united states had important personal sanctions on syria just the foreign minister we were 2 weeks before the summit.
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that general trend western policy is this. you know and this is very typical for the united states but for the european union also what kind of wanted to go to work out with the wash and portable the g 7 what does trump see in a week that's had like so the only problem with the washington post saw in this summit was that drama didn't insult you know this is unheard of in human history but are required to be rude you know the media is absolutely required to let you know it's kind of. meeting with assad made her a hero. so in going in actually talking to what does it lead to be your adversary me the good person that right this is you know our sub story you know it's just awful and i can't even think about
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a parallel in human history you know soviet braswell not suppressed or subservience you know the greed with they would lead us but they didn't push for war you know do you mind doing that they relieve us have conflict with us and the e.u. is also they also have the disease and the mccormick await it expressed itself in this confrontation between marco on and the brazilian president both so narrow you know when both sonora was impolite about macross wife why because most would the brazilian forest fires at the top of the g. 7 agent and brazil was not invited so what was the only answer that. i call the brazilians will get a new president who will be paid to her and i visit i guess the whole this whole program is about hubris here why does that why does the french president have to talk about who's going to be president of brazil it's just you know they way or find an audience us remove courtin you know executives. have
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a new president in brazil have a new president given this is just unhinged lingo to alexander make yours in london this is interesting here giving the u.s. some kind of out of me there's also talks about. waiving away the waivers for under certain circumstances i mean somehow moving forward but this gets to the kind of the the heart of the trump administration's policy towards iran i mean to what degree is it really hostile to its israeli partners and the lobby because we had an unprecedented poor countries israel striking in rapid succession attacking iraq which even the pentagon came out and said we didn't have anything to do with that which of course and they said the. the pentagon made an interesting comment about i'm paraphrasing here protecting iraqi democracy which of course is to kind of point point a finger at the israelis because they always say they're the only democracy in the
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region here i mean it's the to what degree is tribe really beholden taoiseach going into reelection to israel because he's done everything they wanted but the pentagon is saying walk over you get a step back here because it will violate the promise of the promise that trump has made of not going into another conflict as a hostage to tel aviv go ahead. well this is a this is all very good because this is a very astute points because what of course is happening is that donald trump has done all the things that he's really. their supporters in the united states wanted him to do with iran he's confident he's got himself into a confrontation with iran which as was correctly said previously is not succeeding the iranians are not buckling the walls in syria and yemen are going badly blockade of the persian gulf has not really worked i mean you know in the chinese are still buying or oil from iran and the iranians are still able to
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take seize because in retaliation to the seizure of their own tankers so he has got to try and find some way out of the situation but of course from benjamin netanyahu support to view that would be a catastrophe prosch more between the united states and iran is almost the worst possible nightmare as is good faith as he's facing the electorate ok and if you examine not not not i would stress because iran is a threat to israel but because iraq prosch more clearly undercuts everything that that netanyahu has been saying up to right resolution of this war it interests then the then the the then iran is a physical country reproachful is the danger absolutely. so so the result is we have all we have all these attacks on everybody to try and sort of keep this thing
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on the boil again ok well that's that's not a good foreign policy clinton now and again the think this is where so far the israelis and trump been able to stick together in this partnership and again this is one of his strongest lessons for the kid doesn't really help or was it one of the one of the brothers of the crown prince the review going into the united. also terrified of even a few words being passed between the united states and iran but where they do differ though is a charm for all the possibilities of starting a war with them or from china to iran he has so far has been the only u.s. president in quite some time not to start a new wars and this is what this is what it's what he ran on this war and if you want to be reelected this is also what he needs to continue with so he was seeking victory through maximum pressure but without war the israelis well not so much the i don't think they would mind seeing the united states strike i don't think. that oh i don't think. so again this is where they really split to continue to push
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effectively having failed in the pressure so far the military campaign against the iranians or the step back in which. israel split on this issue so you know i think made a very good point you know just by all they do when i say he's deferred to the president i think in the last maybe 20 years who didn't start a war so far so far so far so far and it's just amazing you know an acknowledgment in the new york times i think it's an acknowledgment of the war in yemen was a signature initiate your full grown prince mohammed bin someone backed by the united states under president obama and of quote so i think one of the problems is that the unity you know the american mainstream press acknowledges that they started this war not only muhammad been so much also a bomb but also the so-called arab coalition the war killed 8000 people all of the
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media has been talking about mr who has been working for the washington post what about 8000 people you know why isn't anyone do you mind doing basically responsibility for that you know because if they're going to be allowed to deal with this shows still the tension that. he has with the deep state i mean we still have all of these. characters around him john bolton mike pompei oh that are very very hard here and i don't see it giving i mean that there is we talk about the you know rising to maximum pressure on iran but there's actually maximum pressure going on is that military should ignore what i think that this is one of the positive consequences of the election of 2016 this infighting between the deep state cramp and the media you know that bad things happened that was happened when they all collide you know and also we target a certain country and attack it you know obviously didn't get the support of the media more goals you know what he is there because you know that they're going to
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go and i think they're i think they began when i started out the program you know how we have this. so being so focused on trying blinds everyone to wise policy decisions and which is brings it up here the me the media just can't seem to get its line its party line straight because it's always we acting on our own or on a microscopic level to every single thing the donald trump says and does and that's why not only is he erratic the media is equally erratic it may be just on steroids ok 40 seconds to go ahead alex in that absolutely the media and the media obsessed with the personality of dawn's drum and find it very difficult that the funny impossible impossible to see beyond that personality so everything is reduced to a drama focused on one man now i think in some ways that helps him it helps him electorally but it doesn't help policy the formulation of policy very well and yes
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it's true trump hasn't started any wars he hasn't successfully ended in the only that he's trying to pull out of syria he hasn't been able to use trying to pull out of afghanistan there's all this resistance but if we're not beyond the personality of drawn from. then you understand why he is struggling to end these walls we even though it is very much in the interests of the united states the close was b. and ok i'm going to and we started this program talking about greek words so we're going to end this program as a greek tragedy and that's how we stand right now that's all the time we have gentlemen many thanks to my guest here in moscow and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. see you next time and remember across top post.
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