the scalpel always johnson however what is different now is boris johnson has pledged has promised to deliver direct sit with or without a deal by or on the 31st of october now people who are criticizing him at westminster for his suspension of parliament saqlain minutes and democratic well on the one hand in the context that britain is a parliamentary democracy yes you could make that argument but on the other hand a prime minister in the u.k. has the power to suspend parliament also the deadlock the impasse over bret's has to be broken because it is an excessive will be for the u.k. economy to go into 2020 with bricks it's still lingering and let me at this is well regarded in the politicians at westminster who are claiming both for instance is that in an undemocratic wait this is what i say to them and indeed once

parliament's returns from the summer recess i will be saying this to them so the ones in the house of lords labor and conservative cheese in the prime minister will be an undemocratic well what don't desart say they have because members of the house of lords have not been elected they are appointed minister and. so the house of commons her cheese and all stance on it being undemocratic i say this to them when they took their seats in the commons they swore an oath of allegiance to the queen well excuse me the heads of the british states the queen has not been elected so this arguments that boris johnson is acting in an undemocratic way can be turned on the very people who are choosing it will be an unsettling krantz actually clinton plan i mean one also i mean again irrespective of you like boris johnson's tactics i will even agree there a bit devious ok but it's within the bounds of law and tradition here. and bore and

is as mark is quite correctly pointed out that his claim to scalps prime ministers boris johnson now is and i think he's saying the people voted for briggs and i'm here to implement it because the last 2 were not were unable or unwilling to do it and he is doing the people's will ok has nothing to do with circumventing democracy no well they are claiming that this does not have the time and i think do with breaks it i don't believe so i do think it's going to come out of politics is synonymous with you know devious ok i think that's fair you know but it's a good question whether or not this is the democratic because what is effectively doing now is the sidelining of parliament because the parliament is trying to undermine or reverse a referendum so the same parliament couldn't decide on how to move forward and now of enough of this parliament i mean they can't move it forward ok we've proven that

to astoria so may i wonder if she's out with hillary clinton in the in the woods taking a walk and something has to be done and i think that's where this this is problem it's always had the same root as the people voted for bricks it however parliament was overwhelmingly remain so this is where mark is correct this britain is a parliamentary democracy that is usually sovereignty rests with parliament however in a referendum you hand over sovereignty to the people you allow them to make this edition but when they made the wrong decision the parliament decided to take it back to take back control whether for or against bracks that you have to recognise a bit controversial to take back that decision making and walked or stones and i was trying to essentially cut off parliament because they're trying to. well he overturned a member of the parliament had its chance to prime ministers had their chance well i think this is just a travesty when people voted that the referendum 3 years bost and not been done and. and then in order to feel the will of the people to fulfill the referendum the

parliament has been suspended so i just had a look before coming here there was quite an article by boris johnson for the telegraph that he pound on june the 30th this year object into putin's criticism of liberalism and their article is headline prove why i didn't put in a wrong by leaving the you by october 31st i think according to the news the telegraph should redefine this line yes we will prove what you are putting the right by suspending the parliament until october the 14th and just one cold from this article from boris johnson ovadia mueller but there are some countries where capitalism is believed to be in the hands of order and very few who were doing this i've been short and the liberal values i do write it well i can respond to that that there is a country where referendums are not full field where the 4 years of the destiny of

not fulfilled 4 years where the destiny of the general elected parliament is in the presence of an individual with fluffy hair who was north elected by the general who hoped and were actively draw of this i've been handed i've been actually it turns for pre-season from foreign embassy it's where they take the future then say good odds in that article ok let me go back to marcus one of the interesting things there is there is still time i guess or suppose in total about 5 sitting days for parliament to actually do something to react legally i mean either they have to get a new new law or a new government both are very unlikely here the interesting thing is is how is brussels particularly the germans reacting to this because they have believed all along that they'd be as either a 2nd referendum or the article 50 would be revoked ok but now they have to sit up straight and listen to boris johnson because he's putting it out there a deal is still possible though it's rather unlikely but it's incumbent upon the

europeans now to face up to the tactic as they've been using is not coming to fruition and it's not going to work out the way they wanted what about this european angle go ahead marcus. well i am no friends to the european union me neither have fair but i have to be fair there is nothing else the european union can do the european union and so he's made. a withdrawal agreements it wasn't great britain wasn't that it was ok and british industry and british business sense so there is nothing else that rustles can do the ball is firmly in the cold all of london out boyish johnson's survival as prime minister depends solely on delivering breaths it by on the 31st of october he will script it he was propelled to power by the great city is in the

conservative party if he does not deliver grex it then they will bring him down so i cannot save how boyish johnson will secure a deal with the european union it is now more than likely that britain to woo exit the european union is no deal the main issue is the irish backs up back out now he is not going to give any more concessions on that i understand that but bush johnson is not going to give any concessions on that one of the races is because if he gave a concession on the irish backstop that he risks losing the support of the day he paid in the commons and added one way one way the opposition could bring down the conservative government or starts and is holding up well it's of no consequence because as it stands now the government would win because that's handed the pm pays

well i want to say what i want to say with the european angle here glenn what do you think what do you think the possibilities are because i think there is a you know there's a little bit of room there on the on this point i would disagree slightly with marcus because i don't think the backs of their oh my. theresa may was particularly good so i thought it was voted down 3 times for good reason for good reasons and part of the reason this once britain said ok we're going to take no deal of the table and parliament affectively commit itself to we're going to block it no matter what that's a very clear signal to the e.u. which is you know now it's either we can either give them a deal an awful deal or no deal or not necessarily on day one of the deal that works more in the use favor so obviously in berlin and brussels now they have the impression you know brics it's not going to go through at least no deal because parliament will find a way to stop it so i think once they've miscalculated well you know they didn't you know. but i'm not sure it will so i think. they're

panicking a bit more now because if this is a language sort of example they're more willing to try to find some compromise but where i would agree with marcus of course is that the us has boxed itself in a little bit as well because they've been insisting that there is no way to compromise over ireland that there can be a recount in the other deal and as centrally they all that if there's going to be a deal may go to him if there is going to be a deal i say the ball is in the european court right now it well i think it's again chicken coming home to roost you know the e.u. has been using brutal tempted with so many countries until now and it always worked out so they're so used to not having a compromise that it would be the 1st time in many years of the other guy to blink exactly and that's what the 08 writes in their comment they write that they you kind of got so used to having the other side blinking 1st that they're simply unable to compromise maybe johnson's brutal strategy may.

be making the europeans over the variance again. it is for the u.k. to play their bread should be all that terrible. in return for a trade arrangement well basically you know what it reminds me it reminds me of the situation before the ukrainian civil war how it was basically brought to the point of civil war by the because of the whole problem voice on that note they were going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news staying with us. in a world of big partisan. and conspiracy it's time to wake up to

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welcome back to cross talk we're all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real names. ok glenn in my introduction a start of the program i talked about the saga of briggs it now we have the saga of russia get what is with russia gate now because we have the moeller report no collusion ok we but it still has a life of its own and it doesn't seem to be going away what accounts for that was the question and also it much like rex at that's been going on now for almost 3 years. it doesn't seem to go away even after the mole or pretty much disappeared from the news keep in mind he was the hero of the resistance he was you know the one who's going to bring trouble everyone in handcuffs and now we see this isn't

really panning out and now he suddenly disappeared so why are the still holding on to it i think because it's been almost 3 years now and the they decided to completely go after. it into challenges policies he said there and that's their biggest mistake they just went after him and what was the main thing or well he's an agent of the kremlin now. so effective it will have to go against the resistance focused on him being a russian i just everyone has fall in line everyone has bought into this the problem is we're not tough enough on russia you can't sit down with them so essentially criminalizing diplomacy and out it all again they'll put himself in this one position even though it turns out all of the story was a flop how do you reverse 3 years ago is a month and so i've said that on this program so many times i'm going to marcus is that you know when you sometimes it's impossible to take back words that you say because you say you said with such force and you just don't want to admit that

you're wrong i mean the interesting thing here is that you you have jim comi the former f.b.i. director essential given a slap on the wrist and his. associates around him may not be as lucky because we have more investigation into the investigators but the remarkable thing is is that you have the assistant director of the f.b.i. and you mccabe he's under investigation right now he's a contributor at c.n.n. but you know james clapper is others are our contributors with the mainstream media i mean they continue want to continue to want to control the narrative in a fact free environment go ahead marcus. well hostility towards russia suspicion off russian racism towards russians hasn't been going on for free it's it's been going on in the west for hundreds hundreds here if you have a look at hand sought which will kuwait's all the discussions in the house of commons in the house and in the house of lords if you go back to the 1600s to the

1700s the 1800 it's almost identical to the language that's coming out from westminster today about russia indeed if you go back to america and see what was being said about soviet russia in the 1920 s. and ninety's fancy that in the non-secure states in the 19 $160.00 s. once again it's almost identical to what's coming out of americans a day concert in russia now to go out in george bush jr barack obama and donald trump with those 3 individuals sincere when they say they once it's we improve relations you know we don't know we really don't know but what we do know is this that today in 2019 because of let the mere coincidence lead ship with russia is a certain a power game last year is a resurgent force and americans know in washington that russia is not just the only country capable in the wells or literally destroying america but russia is capable

or limits in an american expansionism or defeat an american aggression therefore what we have seen in the last few years is just simply a continuation or great power riflery between america and russia and remember american generals and the hopes of support and be the conservatives on the liberals on capitol hill they need an enemy in all to see that that's the one that the friends budgets you know it's just like place in one place or the number of hours ago incidents or concerts or bets in country today. well that's just. then. but i think i think there is also another element here demon is that this is a form of projection everything that they say russia is doing in the world they are doing the misnomer and i think that that's the it's the inability to any kind of

self reflection i mean we saw this with the political classes in the media as a result of the 2016 election presidential and brags it will get more it's also in the u.k. i mean this is just a glorified form of projection marcus is absolutely right it justifies the defense budget so there's a material end of it but there's a there's a deep psychological thing because you project all of the negative things that you were doing under someone else absolutely and. i think now it's march towards the end in the 19th century or even during that time so because all the differences in the great there's a you know we have to define our terms great power politics you know that's up time in memoriam now and but now it's being held what ideological ideology being weaponized because of the star and one of the great powers namely the states and the you to believe that they represent a very progressive for your dear that is destined to win that has proven itself to be better than anything seen before they're basically acting like the soviet union

you know you know the century and then fall of the enduring legacy of russia just days ago again the line in the guardian russian how close ally target to order to gain in 2000 claim to be and i was again gone because you find out about it you know what is interesting is that there is a brand and santa for justice which is provide which is iranian and election reform at the state and here is a quote from one of their experts or be afforded it would be a critical state in 2020 and 40 election officials should assume they would be targeted to gain. said larry norden who professionally runs this election reform program but our viewers there is no evidence that was a need meddling absolute russian mentally and florida election 2000 austine i would i would i would refer our listeners our viewers to just a great conversation between glenn greenwald and our own martin on you tube the

great it's always a great zone gray zone and in there you know that is headlined very rightly rashi gate skeptics are vindicated but conspiracy theorist on russia gate our reward it let me remind our listeners that the new york times about 2 pulitzer prizes for something that actually write in a bold can be doing trump and russia something that the military well you know existed our viewers should take a look at google it about the direct answer to link editorial just one fact just one interesting fact in this conversation between greenwald and our own mike there 15 former u.s. intelligence officials are now working as analysts at c.n.n. and ice and b c not only james clapper who rightly said is now hired by c.n.n. also also will. keep all sort of you know talking about previous experiences jeffrey goldberg who was very important in spreading of the law that led to the iraq war about weapons of mass destruction he is now read 3 knots on the most

important issue remember there are plenty so these people there is complete impunity these people who are who basically perjured themselves like james perjured himself before the congress they gave him a position in the debate that goes back to my introduction this is 2 tiered justice system here because you know we we we have someone like jim comey for now off the hook but the new. papadopoulos in union you have. mr stone roger stone i mean it seems to be i mean what would be equitable when this is also. when done if there's any kind of ending is it gives trump should give immunity to all these people give a pardon to everyone and get this behind us. i think a triumph or. 2 and it goes into the election because it's so many. weaknesses there which they wish the democrats build so much of their legitimacy on so i think

one consequence of this will be they might as well be handing 4 more years. by following this strategy they. have to be it's the deep state it's hollywood it was academia the media they elected donald trump in 2016 by insulting half of the electorate ok and they're doing it again and again in fact it was a very good point i think another guard in the article came out a week or 2 ago it's just the. proposal to buy greenland put in have put him up to it to get the discourse in the guardian and of course the needless to say there's no evidence there but even more important there was no logic here like why in the earth would the reporting want donald trump to the degree that i was wrong to the smallest and then watch and bought a roll this week that it was. their help to build he is inadequate all of you are going to go back to the earlier time to go back there if you go back to marcus in london i mean this has

a life of its own and it seems to be part of the genetic code many parts of the political left right now it just it is gospel right now because it unifies their side ok it's a very important element to keep their side of the aisle intact because you all have to be anti russian that keeps them unified it's a unifying element unfortunately markets go ahead. as long as. the mains the country it is today an independent sovereign one which will battle down to america then these accusations coming out of washington and will continue to go for. ever has laid a lot mikhail gorbachev or boris yeltsin and then the accusations will stop but very quickly the soviet union was a russian states and remains the most powerful russian state in history and secondly it's already does it's worse today what's coming out of america and structure than ever was was untenable you're forgetting mccarthyism you're

forgetting this is not here let's it really is a continuation of ingrained hostility yeah and the incident did that's very much part of the d.n.a. the political d.n.a. of how they're going because of it it's very interesting to hear you know i think you know very quick in our conversation by greenwald and marty they wrote that with basically weakness in a repeat of the cold war when no one is allowed to advocate for better relations with russia for feel being accused an apologist for russia or russian agent but they say that before it was their prerogative what conservatives accusing the democrats and the liberals would be rational and split now illegally if it completely and just a small motto you know it would give us some seconds to go and go now also so being a bit of an optimist i thought maybe good russia good could have maybe change the narratives a bit in us not because they don't learn from their mistakes but whether other yes it's true that russia has kind of been the other now for centuries however there's a new development which hasn't been around for centuries and thus the rise of china

and obviously seems that america is waking up to the fact that china will be their main rival going forward so in lieu of that i thought maybe you know i would start to really think that glenn let's why you're an academic because you think logically incoherent is my curse you would expect that from politicians all the time we have many thanks to my guests here in moscow and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here in our d.c. . next time remember. join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guest on the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see that.

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