or control robotic arms but medical breakthroughs aside allowing the big business of tech and then by extension the surveillance tape into the pathways of our brains as many rightfully nervous so today are we ready to lose our heads to the humdrum of consumer can be when some convenience and social media well my friends let's find out as we start watching the hawks. get the. real that this would be. great for the bottom. but they like you that i got. the police. with. their. rigs. working on the watching the hawks i am tired and i'm tired of the law listen joining us today to discuss the legal and ethical end backed of the new brain to

computer interfaces it is legal and media analyst lionel offline on media thanks for joining us. i like the ethical part because when it comes ethics your guy we do de ethics i am the standard bearer of bad but i don't laugh i am you know i mean both you and me both know that but i love your show right now is a little you know i think many people still believe that this type of technology is you know buried deep in our future but we actually are very close to this becoming reality and i was reading some words like within 5 years even line are you ready to let facebook read your thoughts rather than take the time to type them. promise me this well 1st let me thank you for talking about this because i have been screaming about this to the point where people are saying is he talking about the thing because we have this cutesy idea about it's not great like robots isn't that great

a i r 2 d 2 house we danger will robinson oh i love technology which is the way it always comes about. let me ask you this question in reverse you know when we hear of this perennial subject of today of course fads or trans union had millions and millions of of social security numbers hacked that people go crazy when have somebody hacked my brain to start off with that one it's a nice thought anything you put in me anything that you are able to either through telepathy or telemetry or anything how about this reading minds through my vocalisations you know when we think something believe it or not we sometimes say it and there are little pieces of almost that tape as you can place on or about the the throat area to pick up actually pick up micro vocalisations how many times have you watched something thought about something and on your screen lo

and behold google wants to sell you that. burial plot when you were thinking about it and the passing away now there is a rule here if you're hearing about it now it's 5 years old that anything you hear now and then what they do is they also they enter it they start to talk about it like maybe one of these days we could sucker berg says you know maybe one they will be able to do to 2 thought come and facebook them is already in the works so my question is who prevents or even thinks about not the evil dr no or somebody but somebody who just wants to hack your thought change your thought affect ability perhaps create the perfect warrior the perfect student the perfect spouse the politician i mean where does this end and is anybody even thinking about it those are my course those are for those are really good question where are those

available. and which brings me to want to know what you said the i might well of it that i could be a man if that. but i think one of the biggest concerns is this idea of taking something that could be really brilliant to help you know people with physical disabilities and all of that and turning it into this idea of neuro capitalism going to say well if they should have our data you know i am all for if we can help people with that but what is this idea of neural capitalism and what are some of the dangers you know that it could represent to people you know we're all walking around looking for you know a little alexa to just make life a little easier but what's the danger and that well the danger is number one is unregulated because there's nobody and this is the type of the most important part is that when somebody comes up with this there is never the ask the system involvement because we are so tech crazy i'm a tech nerd hey i'm a silicon valley guy i've got this new thing we're look at you look at

a phone and it opens it isn't that cool. when you have a generation that has been brought up in captivity who doesn't even appreciate what the notion of privacy means how my supposed to for the 1st part 1st time introduce them to it then begins to into the notion of transhumanism and we talk about that for a moment isn't it great that somehow we can actually by virtue of science. allow somebody who has lost a limb to to have it replaced and to have it done say mostly through thought yes what could go wrong in the 1st person who ever made the night food said i have this great device here it cuts and i can use it to skin animals and here would you like to see it and he would like probably stab you know alfred nobel we know those stories so every single thing that we've ever done whether it's from the you know the aspirin probably to now has saved more lives probably wouldn't even be allowed on the market today it's that dangerous so what's it going to be and. that is going

to come under i'm being presented right now because a researcher at zurich marcela link has proposed a sort of international recognise right specific to our thoughts and our brains in response to this new technology in fact chiller has 2 bills that would make brain data protection a human right but they cannot go in and mess with their thoughts take your thoughts mess with your mind business or governments and i ask you is that i will we should be talking about should that be in the halls of congress do we need to clarify a set of rights for our thoughts in our minds or ringback does our existing laws already protect them do or does our bill of rights already have that protection and would just be overkill. bill of rights no but you're on does something how do i take a generation and and because let's face it the older generation were gone for in the back 9 nobody cares about us but the you bid but but the new are folks ok and i speak only for myself ear but if i could somehow take the interest that we had over

in night in ringback paper straws were recently it was something up say are are you seeing this people who don't care of about anything war of as says our eyes geom alden nothing but all of a sudden by god we are not going to have plastics draws if i could say good you have that in you you have a sente in part of view you have an empath think part of you now let's see if i can take that a step further let's talk about somebody taking over your ma a nd taking over york and don't be don't lead some smoove talker come in new say listen tyrrell in tab of the whenever a comedian speaks he's affecting your opinion whenever somebody shows you were film we understand that that what makes us human beings stop the the gobble to go look at the poppy cock in stop to this what we're talking about is simply this do we

have the their ombudsman do we have our own ethical standard where we say yes go ahead and them plan something to stop seizures were all for that however you have to satisfy us that this device cannot be put in to make a persian more malleable can make him voted to particular way to make him and buys something or or that's that's what we is a citizenry have to do a collectively we most over were of do with thank you for using the word poppy car by the where i now art all of why don't we have you know bowlers are dollars your own her have to offer is of closer have your own purges the once or bank you tragedy struck off the california coast on monday as a commercial dive boat caught fire just in the water near santa cruz island with more than 30 people reported to have been killed by the fire and many are now left wondering just how this tragic fire happened in the 1st place and what if anything

could have been done to prevent prevent it r.t. america correspondent has more. such a rare horrific tragedy on this labor day weekend and after 20 bodies have been recovered another 14 remain missing and authorities say that after 7 missions and no signs of life they have called off all search and rescue efforts 5 crew members were able to survive let's take a listen to the distress call made by the captain and seriously. as you just heard the captain of the conception call into the coast guard after waking up to a massive boat fire around 3 30 am monday just east of santa cruz island 75 a vessel was carrying 33 passengers and 5 crew members 34 of the 39 aboard the boat were reportedly sleeping below deck when the fire broke out and in the distress call to the coast guard dispatch was asking the captain if he could unlock the lower deck so the passengers could escape but according to officials the boat was

fully in safety compliance right here you know not even actually anybody probably because the majority of the people were the passengers on the ship and the sleeping compartment is in the bottom deck of the ship so they would have been sound asleep when this fire started so you can imagine that of all scenarios to be in a remote location have a fire that occurs have eliminated any firefighting capabilities that could address that and then they have all the said fire discredit very very rapidly. you couldn't ask for a worse situation 20 victims have been transported to the coroner's office 11 females and 9 males diverse spotted another 4 to 6 victims within the wreckage the captain and 4 crew members jumped in the water and were rescued by a good summer. and with a boat called the great escape the owner of that boat says there would have been more than enough room for everyone to leave the burning boat and to sea fleet be transferred back to the marina the best the reportedly saying to the ocean floor about 20 yards from the shore 4 hours after the fire began right now it's sitting

upside down in 62 feet of water the diving excursion to explore san miguel island left on saturday and was due back monday evening and as the family and friends remain in the state of shock authorities have set up an assistance center and their officials are hoping to give loved ones the information they need and a psychological care if so desired and authorities are still trying to determine the cause of that deadly fire in ventura county natasha sweets r t o's we're going to watchers don't forget to let us know what you think about topics you cover the social media be sure to check out watch watch the podcast with spotify up because everywhere you see the pod coming up with us president donald trump holding your campaign fundraiser in beverly hills some democratic celebrities are now calling for the list of attendees to be published they do hollywood blacklist works let's find out if they too.

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news links the page. the protests in hong kong showing no signs of stopping even in the face of threats of force from the police and even as a number of activists with the with the men within the movement were arrested over the weekend r t america's michelle green's thing is in hong kong the latest. these days in hong kong what starts as a peaceful rally often turns violent citing this violence the hong kong police banned a march that had been planned for saturday they warned that anyone in attendance

would be liable for arrest refraining from all unlawful and valan. but that didn't stop thousands of hong kong ers who came out to march anyway fight for freedom stand with hong kong liberate hong kong and hong kong is not china these are all chance that i've been hearing this afternoon it's saturday and protesters have been out in full force for the better part of the day even though those marching were breaking the law hong kong police wouldn't make the 1st arrest until much later. as saturday evening sets in protesters around government workers police hold up a warning that reads disperse or we fire some try sending flares and petrol bombs over the barricades as police stand on. roof with rifles at 6 pm someone sets one of the barriers on fire eventually the pepper spray comes out then the tear gas and finally a water cannon sometimes it's laced with blue dye away for the police to identify suspects later as the sun sets hundreds of riot police move in to break the siege

demonstrators warn each other and retreat here you can see some of the bricks that the protesters have been throwing at the police we also saw some petrol bombs being thrown by these demonstrators as well now over here you can see that riot police have arrived to push back against the protesters that were approaching the legislative council and now this because all the demonstrators to start marching that way after retreating from government headquarters protesters build a massive barricade and set it on fire using petrol bombs it's about 7 30 pm and a fire has broken out in the one shy district now this is right in front of the headquarters of the hong kong police. the fire department arrived about the fire at this point the protesters have advance to the next flashpoint causeway bay the police are not far behind at causeway bay protesters prepare for the arrival of the riot police on the front lines they tied tripwire their arms and bricks and

cocktails when our camera man tries to record these weapons protesters shield them with umbrellas and i was able to get some of this footage with my phone when tear gas is eventually thrown by the police protesters for the canisters back the night culminates in 63 people being arrested for criminal damage possession of offensive weapons and explosives and illegal assembly since the protest had been banned on sunday protesters set up a barricade around the airport with luggage carts they disable security cameras and damaged property they blocked access to the airport and forced travelers to walk miles into the city their damage of the nearby metro station forces its closure monday night remnants of the weekends of a. in the air the demonstrators have blocked both the red and the yellow lights at this traffic stop to have the sign read free hong kong now it's monday evening and the scene here in front of the government headquarters is actually pretty calm we've had students mostly young people i got to say i have not seen

a single person that looks over $25.00 in this crowd here tonight hong kong police say a total of 159 people were arrested over the weekend the situation remains fluid and beijing has reminded the international community of its authority to declare a state of emergency in hong kong if the unrest and disorder persists through watching the hawks michelle greenstein r t. 1947 the house committee on un-american activities subpoena just started with $79.00 hollywood actors screen writers and producers on the claim that they were subversive and that they injected communist propaganda into their films now some are comparing the cold war's darkest days what america turned on and turned in their fellow americans for the crime of having a political view some did not like which brings us to 2019 when the hollywood reporter noted that president trump would be attending a fundraiser in beverly hills that's on television actress debra messing calls for the hollywood reporter to quote please print

a list of all attendees please the public has a right to know of course political contributions are public record and massing along with anyone else can find out who has given money to the trump campaign all by themselves i don't mean the hollywood reporter however the idea of making a list of people who may have attended a political event smells distinctly like 50 shades of mccarthyism and to make matters even weirder massing took the attention on her comments to post an invitation to text her for more in-depth private discussion with the will and grace star take a listen. twitter is great but i wanted a way to communicate about issues and to go more deeply than we can on twitter so text me. crazy. maybe but what is entirely unsettling

for so many is whether debra messing scholes for a lists will stop at the top brass of producers and financier's or will it spread to which cinematographers caterers and production assistants will be allowed to work how many will lose their careers their homes their livelihoods for another cold war red scare that history will of this array just as brutally as it did the last one and will those like messing ever understand how dangerous their rhetoric truly can be boy that's a that is a really good question because i don't know at this point when i see folks do you know what i see her doing something like this i have to sit back and say dude are you not aware of the shaky ground you're walking on calling for maims to be maimed and i'm not a supporter of donald trump orders or anyone watching mashona like nobody here is like toeing the line for a trump. but this is this is not how you know this is not how you know of all

things in hollywood given that history that you mention you should not be asking for a listen like you said they could look at it online i don't know who gives them money google it learn how politics actually works before you're going to suddenly put yourself on this this pedestal of being this great political leader and you know it's one thing if you are actually a politician if you work in some sort of industry that that has to work with the government and you want to do that but if you are going to put yourself in a position like debra messing where she is an actress who is becoming politically involved which i'm all for you should speak up but this well it's this is like slowly poking at people and there's something else about this whole like tax rate which i know that when some of your end up the conversation tax to me i'm like well i'm one of my 19 i'm not a texter and you all for that but so i want to just talk about what is really. so what like her idea of text me isn't great but i realize that the phone number she

put up to tag just isn't really a phone number it's one of those voice over ip like skype phone number which is fine so i decided to text her and ask if. she after texting her so you get a response that says hey it's deborah. you know like this is an auto response you know here we go but in order to get a response from her you now next must give you your 1st and last name gender identity birthday and city and it's much as i could see from this what other people have reported you absolutely have to put your birthday and i centrally her entire call to engage people comes off like a big old data capture scam what is she going to do with all my information what are you who are you giving this list to and again if you're going to say like we're going to do this why are you the making at this but you have to sign up and give me your information if twitter is so what's the difference thank you if you're on twitter or just talk to if that's what you want to do engage with people they're

not under your terms and which you can then surveil them and keep track of them this is exactly how this stuff and the in the problem as it did back in the 1st red scare and you know the other not the only one and i'm not you only dirty liberal who. is wrong you are you sure you with with ms will be goldberg or so choose other goes on the viewer really want to respond to resonate with this quote saying listen the last time people did this people of the killing themselves this is not a good idea ok your idea of who you don't want to work with is your personal business do not encourage people to print out a list because the next list that comes out your name will be on and then people be coming after you that's exactly a good point because whatever whatever you do don't protest the other side's going to do in protest by example only seen that over and over again i mean we see it and there's always a pushback there is blowback to whatever gets done especially when it's irrational

you know like do you think 1st of all it's the same of the same conservatives who is going to be at this who's going to whoever will be we must know it's such a i'll tell you who dean cain. james woods probably. angeles. boy john boy are probably going to be there it's like literally it's a handful of people you know and a bunch of financier is an executive producers and people who have nothing to do with the movie business just because it's in beverly hills not everybody in beverly hills is a movie. and again i just don't like the idea of this idea like she said that was not a good time it was not a good time especially when you consider yourself a liberal democrat you know because that was a time where they specifically targeted they specifically targeted targeted unions that the roads were not as i would guess that the entire point of what happened in hollywood started because there were 2 major strikes from the unions there that

affected the hollywood bottom line and that is why you then had people like ronald reagan go up in front of congress and say that the league of women voters was a communist front and that all of these unions and everything were going to ruin america with their you know commie movie isn't everything so when you think about the people that charlie chaplin's and all these people who were were block list it and bill you said there was just over anything people used it and this is going to be the new thing if you don't want someone to be in a movie and you want you want to get their parts you just point in time and go your account me your original study and vote and so you know you're oh yeah you know whatever your employer let's curiously you go roll busy this back i mean look we all know fox news and trump had a little bit of problem but ultimately fox news members support each other so what are you going to do deborah hawkes is owned by disney how are you not at this point when only 6 companies they're notorious they're going to do business more that's ridiculous i mean it's make us their silence and everybody has a right to their political beliefs but at the end of the day we've got

a you know you can't be let loose like this quote we can't be. all right everybody about is our show for you to remember on in this world we're not told real love to tell you all. i am irrelevant i have a lot of people are watching those arcs and i were great day and night everybody. thanks. ok thanks liz. we'll i'm. going. during the great depression which i'm old enough to remember there was most of my family were employed. there wasn't it was bed much worse objectively day but there was an expectation of the things were going to get better. there was a real sense of hopefulness there isn't today today's america was shaped by the

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