tv Cross Talk RT September 10, 2019 12:00am-12:31am EDT
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i want the future of the world to future generations to have and enjoy the ocean we have. confirmed that the peace talks with the taliban else crops up to the militant group claims responsibility for a couple with terror attack which left one american soldier dead. and yet another blow to bush's prime minister boris johnson part of a deal with jackson's latest move to call a general election as is the u.k. pays for the phone calls to exiting the e.u. next month but with the status of a deal in town. palestinians have clashed with his rating in the testing against the death i mean inmate action in israeli jails. the next hour coming up on the international it's talking in the u.k.
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and ireland is not. alone in welcome across town for all things are considered i'm peter lavelle attempting to end one war while avoiding a new one as usual the trump administration's foreign policy is unpredictable and even contradictory there are no better examples than afghanistan and iran. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest. is the founder of the center of political strategic analysis dr paul we also have dmitri bobbitt she is a political analyst and editor at. me internet media project and in london we cross
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the charles shoe bridge he is a security analyst and a former u.k. army and counterterrorism intelligence officer originally across the uk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate let me go to charles 1st in london while this story with afghanistan in the quote unquote peace process is take a very interesting turn from what we've been told leadership members of the taliban were supposed to go to camp david and i guess maybe tie a bow on this again quote unquote peace process here i don't buy that story it was on the back of a taliban attack in one american was killed and 11 other people were killed that's the story of the last 18 years ok was of the story of the last few days here my supposition is trump got cold feet because he doesn't know where it's going to go and it's not a political winner for him with the foreign policy blob not necessarily with the american people we can get into that go ahead charles what's your take. i think there's something in what you say here i don't think it's as it appears certainly i
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think trump has had misgivings as indeed as a lot of the us we can say foreign policy establishment of course trump is sometimes in that sometimes outside of that circle but i think he would share some of the views that he's been strongly pressured particular of the last few days and weeks even in the media a lot especially in the media as a result of. these talks actually approaching even if it wasn't widely known that they would be approaching in this form there's concern of course that if the u.s. does indeed strike a deal with the taliban and the u.s. leaves that actually that will return afghanistan to taliban control and seems quite likely that would be the case but that's going to be the case whether america leaves today. if they had left 91015 years ago and so really i mean trump has got election remember a manifesto commitment to end the u.s.
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war in afghanistan it's let's think back to a summary of that it's cost upwards of one trillion dollars over the last 18 years actually i mean even the pentagon puts it at $760000000000.00 it's cost $2.00 and a half 1000 u.s. lives another 1000 coalition lives not with and of course not to mention of course we will mention but so many won't mention $150000.00 afghans that have died since the u.s. became involved and it's led to a situation that at this current time the taliban is pretty much more in control of afghanistan that it's been any time since 2001 and so really i mean trumps instincts i think as we often see and we often say that trumps instincts are right here but i think that possibly he has seen this attack as an opportunity to. clarify what the american position is going to be you know. this is just delaying the inevitable ok you know we should. i think intelligently.
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in in 2001 go in destroy al qaeda and get out it was should have been a police action a crime was committed then you do a police action and then you would draw from it the reason why the. u.s. allies agreed to join this operation but i agree. with that it's a big problem for trying because it was during his campaign between 2016 he was against the war in iraq and it was through. this time that you promised a victory so it didn't promise deal with taliban but it's obvious that it's very interesting if you look what victories does he have ok deemer and i think this is exactly what thinking is is that he didn't he didn't see with what was proposed to him i don't think it was his idea this was a proposal he didn't see a win either way going through with the deal or abandoning it ok he's looking for
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a better option but for the last 18 years there hasn't been very many good options except for one get out several players well it's the longest war in american history and let me give you a precise figures even according to wikipedia 2410 american military deaths almost to solve civilian contractors killed in afghanistan this is just americans there were also or there are 9000 european allies operating in afghanistan getting killed every day or almost every day you know i especially if you're doing and historians and a lot of it's who went there with the soviet troops in the 8 s. who were stupid enough to go all the 2nd time with nato and the. reaction from the united states is just hilarious you know mike bell said there it was a success today al qaeda doesn't even amount to a shadow always for myself in afghanistan yet. it was displaced by the so-called
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islamic state which is even more dangerous about now we did leave it what come you didn't last 150000 deaths 5000 in london so it's you know it's go back to charles in london charles it seems to me that trumps move is actually a sign of weakness ok because he's showing that the taliban has the initiative and they are calling the shots and they're calling the timetable his reaction you know this could last decades longer was a really a very lame reaction to it because it's not a proactive approach in resolving something that he said he wants resolved so i think again weakness out of this white house go ahead charles yes and also in the background i think recognizes that his positions week i mean he's obviously a very transactional personality he sees it in terms of transactions as he sees so much from the security relations and he sees here that if there is a deal to be struck he's got to appear tough notwithstanding that actually his position on the ground the u.s.
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position on the ground is extremely weak the taliban know that the u.s. knows that trumps knows that and so therefore pulling out of the last minute it's almost as if he's saying ok you need to deliver more in other words stop these attacks on u.s. troops and coalition and afghan troops if i'm going to hold a meeting with you but the problem is that of course actually it's him that wants the meeting in a way more than more than the taliban do the taliban know that it's just a matter of time before the afghan government force and before the or that they get a deal with the afghan government which is very advantageous to the taliban and they know it's a matter of time before the u.s. is going to withdraw and again will return to the steam of the time frame of events and how america sees things in very short termism short term this way not withstanding that this is now 18 years and yet the enemy for the u.s. is prepared to sit a much longer and i've got a much greater stake in this i mean it's their country let's not forget this. and the taliban of course and i made
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a point to make very quickly here is that it's being said of course yes america i've always said that america when it does leave will reframe the situation to portray it as a victory and we did we've seen this over the last couple of days as you mentioned it's been phrased as well framed as a victory over al qaida i mean pleased to some extent that's true but that was true in too but that was true in 2001 to 2002 they've been fighting the taliban you know . the problem for washington. what would happen were we leave afghanistan because look at the other country in it was biggest turn in into many. interviews down. russian chinese influence so the good direction know we still kish there of course have looked good relations with china and with russia so it means as soon as they will leave afghanistan they would have. the sun and it also you know i mean the taliban after all this effort
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fighting al qaeda islamic state the american puppet government why in the world would they want to get in bed with al qaeda again ok there's no there's a logical reason for the member that i mean he said that there is some basis for a state again it's done. by the us were by the us so what they want the true the know exactly what they do and that their short term is couldn't agree more well it seems to me that this is about the 2nd part of our program this is about iran they want to have a position inside about gayness i don't quote unquote keep their eyes on a red it's always about iran in their region they're ok again with what the administration is talking about their talking points in the media's reaction to it is really irrelevant to what's going on go ahead and. get it. but you know the
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point about the central asian states they're less concerned. with the royal than the european states than america or you will russia you know if you listen to the statements from the. start they are. you know they fear american smaller than the us because they know that taliban are only strong. in every game exactly they're no longer all in. these countries we're going to go to charles finish up this block here charles a i'm old enough to remember i wasn't very old but i was old enough to remember the fall of saigon this is what history is repeating itself here because look the trumpet ministration didn't even bring in the afghan government into these negotiations ok i mean because and we had a guest on card cross-like a few days ago an afghan himself and he said well we know the government will fail almost immediately after the americans leave but that was the 18 year investment in afghanistan finish it off go ahead charles yes and of course what trump and the us
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are trying to avoid. the scenes of people scrambling on to helicopters and leaving at the last minute which we saw in saigon and i try to avoid that with kabul if the afghan government can collapse and the taliban take over with america out of the way then america of course can say listen we invested all of this money all of this blood and treasure into afghanistan just like they said with iraq and then the afghans as they said about iraqis they let us down we gave them every chance to invest in democracy and indeed they did then america we to collapse so in other words it's another issue where america is largely created a situation and then when the inevitable consequence follows then blame the local people for it and that's what i'm trying to do here i suspect 20 seconds good. couldn't agree more again to. work with that we find a way. to use a little cup to to to go from the u.s. embassy because you know but no one will ever be held accountable for the. 5 2nd statement i just loved. meant these are going to be the same withdrawal as with
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syria the same but you think it could put are going to jump in here we go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the real name state with. you know world a big part of the new law and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smart we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the troops the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks.
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today there are good tennis and bad debt it's the bad news in yemen the united states deems to be a threat the good. lord in syria the cia and the us military were engaged in covert actions really throughout the world. where they were assassinating populist leaders they were backing up the right way military juntas funding an army of death squads there's no end because there's always a small. really good. profit. welcome back across not where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news.
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ok i want to go back to charles in london let's switch gears and talk about your rand maximum pressure well it's not working very well is it ok and this is been the whole problem with the trumpet ministrations approach specifically. with regards to iran it doesn't ever have any other options in this is was putting trump in a bind because in a bind with afghanistan obama in with john not in syria bind in iran and we do there are there are there is gossip and there are some whispers that trump obviously isn't satisfied with it or let me throw it in venezuela too satisfied with what's going on he was promised all you had to do was put on the sanctions cut off the oil and the whole thing will fall apart will be regime change we all knew that wasn't going to happen trump may it seems that trump does want to make some kind of direct contact but for obvious reasons the who are amiens have no
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interest in talking to donald trump about anything because his policy is a failure what do you think charles yes he's trying to i think trump is trying to engineer a situation similar to what happened with korea where. he will put on maximum pressure one way or another particular course economically in the case of iran causing great suffering by all measures amongst ordinary iranian people not necessarily amongst the leadership. in an attempt to turn against the government just as he's done of course in venezuela and at the same time then think that there's going to be some caving in and then some. big summit that he can then present himself as the peacemaker particular of course with the election coming up but the thing is that he's not in a position to be had to offer anything to actually even reverse what he or rather what he left talents people like bolton and pence and so on has actually driven and that is that of course this is a policy that isn't driven by american interests. this is a policy against iran that is overwhelmingly driven by us by the interest groups
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not of the united states but of its 2 main allies in that region which is saudi arabian of course israel and therefore it's not in america's interest to pursue this policy particular because and i know we're going to cover this i'm sure we will of the fact that of course in the same way that american policy towards russia over the last few years has driven. made the drive towards better relations with china and russia inevitable so that's happening now with iran and of course even the statistics we don't have sound and so on through got that trump has chosen to place or play this is a 0 sum game in a way with all of the powers that all the same time been perhaps a bit more tactical he would have taken on iran 1st and then look to tackle china in the way that he wants to but no he's decided actually i'm going to take on the whole world at the same time so much so he's even apart from the u.k. of course the good old faithful u.k. he's alienated even most of its european allies as well in the process and so america now at the moment largely because of iran stands as isolated as it stood in
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many many years in the past you know you know we just over the last few days there were high level chinese officials visiting turn around talking about investment buying oil ignoring the american sanctions threats here i mean just like it is charles said you know when when by alienating russia for so long russia's moved looked towards east to china and now the iranians say we have a partner see the trumpet ministration and the american foreign policy establishment in general can't conceive that iran could have friends actually has a lot of friends in the region and further afield and you know it was the multistory thing it does attention to the washington post on iran and on live in a sort of. gave 1000000000 profit. of the same moment so in my opinion there is almost 0 point. i think that trump
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wanted to destroy the only diplomatic success of obama it's. very much it's important if you know what i mean it's a weird psychological thing and i won't be surprised if maybe in one year someone says before the election it will find maybe the same agreement telling its completely new it's a good agreement this time with iran so that's what i hope because as you said. actually there is some figures the detainees are ready to invest 250000000000 on the iran. they don't care about the washington sanctions. they don't care anymore you very much are you were saying that the this ancient regime at least in the united states it's slightly different than europe but once you put sanctions on they almost never go away i mean 8 and actually congress mandates that it tice the hand of the president even if you wanted to do that and so again i you know why why should the uranian speak to the americans now they have
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nothing to offer there is not a week without any threat of sanctions a few ascensions against any country in the world so. used to that in the know how to react to to cooperate together to know when what they're doing is the u.s. is devaluing its own currency the dollar in the process going well i agree with salvia there obviously trumps policy towards iran. and doing what all it would think that obama did but despite all of that trump is the 1st president in 30 years not to have started a war during his 1st term so far so far ok so it just shows you it's not because trump is such a nice person is because there is a quarrel there is a call flicked between him and the chorus and between various factions in the u.s. administration so it is this the reason why the new war has not started but there. let me. show us some of his supporters it was
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a rock he said about afghanistan if we wanted to fight a war in afghanistan and win it i could win that war in a week i just don't want to kill 10000000 people and wipe them off the face and after that they could just say that they remain in leadership irresponsible statements about destroying the state of israel isn't that a much more rabid threat you know and trying to just say that in posture you know in june this year almost no one noticed and what a lot of people that i don't think people get 0 and you want to mention was paid to any stupid statement from mark my dinners or you know when he threatened israel basically oh your world in that mistranslation. was interested is that is the is really very much of a crucial statement that the united states will bury you it's an ideological inertia from that time so that iranian revolution very few actually and no one
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believes that iran because iran is the weaker in this. possible confrontation with israel it's protecting its summit here gentlemen i want to talk about another topic before we leave we go back to charles we had a prisoner exchange with russia and ukraine with the new president's olinsky in ukraine what is that significance is it a putting a marker down to move forward or is it just kind of like putting a flag up the pole and see if anybody salutes go ahead charles. that's a good way to put it peter of course it's possible in a way to be both. what we've got is a situation here i think where again we've often seen in the past not just in ukraine but in other areas careers are perhaps an example of this where once the big powers stay out of things where the or the west particularly let's say for example when we had the minsk agreement that was largely done the behest of russia ukraine fronts in germany they excluded for example the u.k. and the u.s. for most because. nations and from that process and
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a peace agreement or cease fire not perfect but one was able to be achieved and we've got a similar situation here where russia and ukraine together have got differences put aside on this particular issue and have produced some progress which is sunny's producing humanitarian progress i suspect both sides will use this. as a negotiation point they will pretend that they are going to make further concessions but i think both sides particular with the new ukraine process president after he's got a election commitment to this want to put the ukraine situation to bed and resolve it one way or another of course that isn't necessarily what many countries in the west want and some of the interest groups within those and we're talking about the u.s. for example where there are so many interest groups that want to stoke this conflict the arms industry and so on to constantly present russia as a threat and it's significant i tell you what's really significant i think because the fact that ukraine one of those people that ukraine sent back to russia the prisoner swap was somebody that the west particularly holland britain america had
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almost begged ukraine not to send in other words that person that was wanted in connection with the. 17 hours is right and it's interesting that all the only groups that object to this progress in relations between russia and ukraine were 40 european politicians who urged the president not. this guy who is accused of being complicit in the onion m.h. 70 interruption well 1st he was not complete it because if he had been. held to get money he would be the only witness. was an older man kidnapped. you know if he was given given an injection and kidnapped by the ukrainian special forces. then yes he walked. physical exercise teacher but what is even more important so for us russians besides this exchange the other important news is that . america is not given $250000000.00 water of military equipment to create every
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dollar of that equipment and ukrainian or russian citizen any moment so who is objecting to it with the prisoner swap it was the europeans but it's now we have basically the washington post question this decision by trump not with great money and saying that 1st mr trump is catering to mr putin and 2nd marriage. and the like gen that he isn't tempted to force me to intervene at that 2020 us presidential election by the launch in any investigation of the leading democrat that created it joe biden probably at least joe biden is involved in corruption in ukraine his son became a billionaire or gas deals in ukraine when mr biden was ordered to be there look at the general we know this steel dossier came from you exactly right you know it's
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about time that i'm here 40 seconds ago it was really interesting the way. talk about to putin it was like a partner we agree we are meant to no agreement we we promised we did it pronouns were important there yes. i mean. i think it's a new step no let's see what would happen because there is a list. for instance of a minister of interior it could be dangerous but. i'm satisfied i can tell you everything starts with one step. it's a very good news in my opinion and. on the russian side on the inside everybody was satisfied and if you look at what happened. hold his promise he was elected by almost 75. people in this program on a positive note but we did with. you know you probably have many thanks to my
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a man or woman. all film begins in hawaii in the middle of the pacific ocean in spite of the island's remote location it is also a woman that didn't go to the epidemic of the 20th century plastic. plastic pollution is littering beaches and endangering certain species of animals no matter how remote or out of reach. in this elaborate tree in the north of the occupied ago scientists study marine animals not plastic at least in theory.
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no idea what that is. but it's certainly plastic. and jessica perelman is a biologist accustomed to finding plastic in fish stomachs she has started a very unique collection. casually often plastic bags and this was all coiled off of the stomach when i found it had no idea what it wasn't all that it just. or did you react when you find this in the stomach i was shocked i started documenting it measuring it taking photos showing whoever else was around in the lab and we were kind of we were just there shocked to think that these fish are are really ingesting this i mean. to her disbelief the scientist has found plastic in an unlikely specimen known as the long sick fish.
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