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adverted for years and years are anxious because they haven't got a piece of paper to show that they're entitled to live here and that's been the battle in the past of trying to ensure they have something more than an email because we don't want the repetition of the wind of us condo to ensure that they know what their status is i don't think that is a legal problem in substance i believe it will work itself out but people are anxious because they haven't got a piece of paper to show that they are have settled status here they get settled status if they've been here 5 years there's no difficulty they're going to please settle status if it's a period shorter than that then they can reapply the full settle status but is the vulnerable the people who are not advised people who haven't got advisors counselors lawyers whatever they're the people probably at the end of the working scale who anxious and our job has been we've sent delegates members of the
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committee of the pas to the headquarters of the home office that is operating the scheme in liverpool to find out what is happening and the over the over half i think it's a over the 1000000 up of the 3000000 people in this country have now had settled status and the numbers are going up and i think. what they can but what are the numbers i mean you rich i want to get on to the to the letter this is away from all the procedures and all the drama in westminster this is what is the scale here because obviously millions of people are british nationals are in the e.u. and there are millions of those here in britain tell me about this letter that you've written not pretty to tell but to the bricks secretary. well we're asking the latter go to the 3rd of september we haven't had a reply yet asking for an update of the position of all the. british people
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living in europe regarding their health pensions provision of that car and we want an update given that the government has pledged to levy of of the 31st of october an update of what their position is and then someone witnesses i suspect to ask the government to close examine them how efficient and how wide eyed how comprehensive the provision is to give assured still people who are very very very well they know that paula bench is put we can sit the committee can sit so we can do our job supervising what is happening so there's new scrutiny and at the same time boris johnson has been very clear they would rather a new deal breaks it by the 30. you just said the 35 where as parliament is saying is not going to begin to deal on the 31st which means presumably the meat
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and potatoes of this letter it's. it's up for grabs as part of the negotiations whether it be the irish sea backstop whether it be whatever citizenship brady i think anything can happen but in the meantime we're not able to give a show to people. regarding the c. of the scheme operated by the home office and when we come back we will sit and consider it but of course as a former attorney general you are very aware that in these 5 weeks parliament may not be sitting but courts will be sitting we've already seen that recent cases of the supreme court and other lower level courts being talked about john major former prime minister gina miller bringing cases denied about process presumably if anything came up as regards the issues in this letter of a national status in this country a british national state in the e.u. before the 7th of october. some to bring it up in court or something to avoid
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being the prospect of deportation what could be or it could be but we have this once parliament closes down and is not sitting this very long period to pull the geisha is really. so fundamentally dangerous for ordinary people ordinary people of this card who were anxious to be satisfied that their lights protected with a speaker. did seem to be slightly concerned about it but it's all legal it's part of the british political process the government is quite entitle to do what it's been doing as regards purgation brazil. yes well i said that quite clearly in a an interview i had with the times recently that i. know the procedures have been followed it's the party ministers duty to advise the queen
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extended duty and a convention of the queen accept the advice of the privatised. of the house is that . i suspect i may be wrong i suspect the court will hold that all the procedures how be taken but that doesn't go back to the problem the basic problem is that there is no paula vant to supervise the government to make the government answerable to a polyp and that is the heart of the problem and is that not the reason why many are resorting to the courts there's been a new book why 4 was just as good sumption lot of legal debate about what is the rule of the supreme court in britain can the supremes court overrule the prime minister you mentioned the the queen presumably the clinton is of no importance in any of this she is just a figurehead but do we live in a constitutional monarchy or a democracy my guess is that the courts will not intervene as i said into so ago. i
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think i could belong i would be of a surprised if the courts intervened in what is a procedural matter which seems to be followed a political decision. quite unhappy that the courts are involved a tall but we have a system here which we are very very proud of of judicial review where ministers and indeed public bodies can be called before the court if there is a decision has been unbelievable or they have followed the procedures so perfectly titled to do it whether they will succeed. but i may be wrong because you mention when russia interestingly former supreme court justice goes actually claimed whilst saying that we should be proud of our system and so on like. all of the big lawyers in this country said the system does politically protect minorities from ethnic or religious discrimination because windrush was
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a clear example of why the system did not work as regards what drains a maze government was doing it was a big bug i've caused a lot of and desire to people who have been here maybe if of the age of 5 or maybe less well if we can happen to black people that's what we want as a committee to ensure that it doesn't happen the you've appeared bases or you've appeared nationals here or british nationals in new up we want to ensure there is no there petition. because of a failure of a system and i think if i guess correctly that we'll be going back to this issue time and time again it is a question of cost but when it comes to the exile of people that we'll have to consider really what view is the lack of air. other than an email you
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mentioned e-mails goes today's deadline day for boris johnson according to the law has promised on monday he has to give up e-mails whatsapp messages around the will there be no eyebrows raised that has been known as sources of the like coming out of downing street saying you know what. the government may break the law i mean on sirius on mainstream media programs in this country there will be debates what happens if the prime minister breaks the law what have you made of it and is it a loud too we're not allowed to forget but b. who breaks the law i think in public lose a 3rd of his cabinet i suspect the lord chancellor there 10 if you have. the the the lord chancellor is obliged by a specific act of parliament when the status of the office was changed to defend the rule of law and my guess is that there are many people in the government who would not only be unhappy but would find it very difficult to serve and they
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got they don't know and if you were attorney general today in geoffrey caucuses and you knew that say one of dominic cummings people in downing street was briefing journalists saying you know war if necessary we'll break the law would you resign as attorney general i would be sending for the prime minister to explain what the situation is. i would not be able to serve and would you really i mean it seems such an obvious i would not be able to serve in a government of that kind i would give him a chance to explain himself but i suspect no lawyer of and yesterday would want to obey the government where there is a serious expectation the prime minister intends to break the law i hope this is not an event to comment but although it's not a comment where there is any substance behind it just finally and very briefly away from breaks it away from all of these debates since david cameron's resume the beginning of a sturdy the bankers bailout legal aid has been caught and access to justice has
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been cut according to activist groups any chance of something changing in the near future for those seeking legal aid but there's nothing of substance but we have. come to an end the matter of the lords 3 weeks ago that. is coming to a dead or has come to an end that the posting should be opened to jordan ordinary people have access to the law i mean they have a ball is to a great portion of family law the. of the criminal. have to work see times as hard probably for the same pay as they had 20 years ago it really cuts cuts cuts and i would feel very unhappy to advise anyone to going to the practice of the criminal law and we desperately need good pictish has to defend the rights of citizens morris thank you. after the break with the rest set to continue
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with the world's largest arms fair today in london revolutionary are just beat it can be a complicity in war crimes and speaks about a lifetime of visual dissent. on the ground. today there are good tennis and bad attitudes the bad news in the end when the united states deems to be a threat to the good those who work in syria the cia and the us military were engaged in covert actions really throughout the world. where they were assassinating populist leaders they were backing up right wing military juntas funding and arming death squads there's no any more because there's always
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a small. really good. profit. but the so-called afghan peace process in tatters u.s. troops still in syria iraq more times than not agreeing with iran maximum pressure on trent failing and america's allies in the middle east and odds over yemen can anyone make heads or tails out of trumps foreign policy in the middle east it seems to be going from bad to worse. welcome back today's 46 years since the u.s. u.k. backed coup that killed salvador allende of chile a coup supported by just 5 u.s. official john bolton well here is the arguable favorite to be britain's next prime minister paying tribute to i went to. the most people's. british.
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coffee and. it wasn't just her. it was a chance you could kill a whole generation that leader unlike u.k. prime minister boris johnson oppose u.s. u.k. policy that arguably led to another anniversary today the 911 attacks on washington and new york were carried out by some. porters of anglo-american backing for the budget had been in afghanistan let alone islam ists in yugoslavia today britain has a prime minister who attacks opponents of al-qaeda across the middle east johnson and al-qaeda let alone new labor blairites were even warned about it by the leader who defeated them in syria but a call for half of the year to have been on the top of the total well i can know how people come out of pride of fear for understand the i would have felt from his idea and yet i want to. go with him i can with a friend from the from and boris johnson supported nato violence they doggedly aided al qaeda supporters in syria afghanistan and iraq but his support for the
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tory new labor blairites war in libya which created a safe haven for al qaeda in the mediterranean is more nuanced british foreign secretary boris johnson has said the removal of former libyan leader moammar gadhafi in 2011 has proved to be a humanitarian and security tragedy that was speaking on his return to the us to try and reach a compromise what does boris johnson know about david cameron's catastrophic destruction of africa's richest per capita country that others don't as foreign secretary he would have been privy to top secret documents pertaining to m i 6 and m i 5 relations with islam is groups in libya alleged m i 5 complicity has been raised by the father of 8 year old sufi resource the youngest victim of the manchester arena terror attack as an area ground to concepts i put the blame on m i 5 and our government for this war. because the nearby woods are thinking about some a long time ago now new questions of emerged because johnson's government wants
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evidence about this is that mr mansour serina atrocity to be heard in secret johnson's new home secretary pretty patel says it's all about national security this from someone who infamously resigned over covert meetings with supporter of al-qaeda linked groups in syria benyamin netanyahu he was one of the last leaders to meet. johnson before parliament was shut down on monday and all this as even u.k. state mandated media has followed this program in this channel in reporting connections between the u.k. and those who celebrate september the 11th we expensed how hot aid money and our jihad. it is unfortunately strengthening big stream ists and the islamic groups well joining me now is a chronicler of britain's so-called war on terror is britain's foremost political artist banksy has had to have john birger says his work is wanting the royal college of arts professor of political odd peter cannot whose book visual dissent
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is out now about pluto press joins me now thanks so much of a coming on tell me about the book and if you look through it how it seems to differ so much from the arguably advertiser lead i don't know young british artists and all the rest of it they get all the attention when it comes to british yeah well i well i want to do a book that wasn't seen as an art but was actually 50 years of history because one of my just to get through to young people and to make history live was i think it's very important to know about the events so i've done 50 years since i saw in 1990 and political stuff going right through to this year and talked about a particular subject within nature and then talked talked about what i did about it in terms of on look so you know let's let's explore some of that because obviously we've just been having this scores of people have been arrested. just down the road from here in east london there's
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a double page spread in in here on the largest manufacturing company in this country it makes weapons be a way why being a beer it seems to be more of an arm of the government now and it's going on regimes. totally and to human rights and selling arms to the saudi arabians that's why you know it's because. we know up it's going on the saudi arabia especially in yemen. you know the weapons are killing civilians women and children and i say in the book that they will have these sort of the logos and be a who you know they they say we're doing this for the people of the professor and all of this and they put themselves over as a sort of peace loving company that selling something but the reality is they're making weapons well. and they stay when they presumably say the government i was
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them to export these weapons and yeah i was the ira have to train the pilots bombing bombing yemen i'm going to ask you just mentioned already the accessibility that was so important to you over your a. lot of the magazine covers as well as the finality did allergies around the world. for magazines nowadays i didn't see or would go to the front pages of the news like you know i mean papers of become more on a dime in the sort of in this country in images they use and they tend to put film stars on the cover papers think that they the cartoonist can say what they want to say because it's a cartoon so it's goes on also whereas if you do a montage they think people won't understand that it's something constructed and they'll think it's an actual picture they have all these weird ideas of people on broad health until i became a pieces. you know. the book begins as you did 50 years ago with
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kissinger. century ago when the new labor loon conservative ministers of a came to have their photograph taken with enríquez and sure that we can see the one in the book here i mean. that kicks off the whole book way way the importance of well i mean i think he represents the sanitization of someone that to me was a warmonger in terms of fear and i'm combo did he actually instigated all the experimentation with the weapons or the napalm on he was very much put the brains behind that and now he's seen as a very. honored elder statesman and i think that's what can happen to people like that you know if they live long enough people actually forget what they've done we had the g. 8 recently all the g 7 g 7 has been out in beer it's there's a whole selection of pictures here that you did for the g 8 yeah as it is
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then before russia was left over little changed when they did say they gave someone a for a climate change i think but tell me about does a lot want to do saying that because it was in the end the skin and i want to sign that people could. use so what i did with those i put them all up on on the internet different sizes high rez and a lot of red so people could actually make their own versions you know what do you think would you would you do on t.v. the beer it's g 7 john barry rolling into town talking about the issues of the day the kind of concerns that you have the but i think they're talking about them in terms of theatrical rather than reality and one of one of the pictures is. of the child on to a casino table which is easy from early for leg $98.00 of them we can tell you about it's not you know it's a sort of roulette wheel of poverty the gambling with children's lives and the way
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that acting is not going to change people's lives like that it's just it's again it's window dressing and that's what the point of montage is to break through that window dressing to give people another look at what's going on i don't think it is propaganda. telling people what to do or who to join oh it's trying to get people to think critically as media is mainly just going from one subject to another and sort of a general way and covering up a lot of what's actually going on and the point of montage is to uncover it to sort of smash it open in some way and show the collision of forces i know you talked in the past with eleanor hall would change feel all these influences you pioneered a lot of new techniques and want to interesting how that kind of would go into the techniques could be used for a political yeah we're. thinking as you watched the technique so you may have
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a need to use d.d. had video of other advertising well advertising is avariciously ideas that go around takes patience taking ideas a cop you know the copywriters and the visualizer still part of the problem i'm sure you've helped yeah you got gene and yeah and then they take it up on whatever advertising the tories did it with such and such and they use montage you know with such labors and working with those sort of things but it doesn't mean that my own images can get used by them because they hopefully the critique is in it so they can't be it can be misused you know it's as i say in the book that one of the was i was told by a tory that she loved it and she put it had it in the live in number 10 as queen victoria's book i don't know if it's true but that's what he said. well you know obviously everything that happens right now in british politics arguably it all whereas didn't bulleteer mean the influence of the bailout of the banks in 2008
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tell me about the pictures of the hands in the stock market so i just wanted to make sure i'm very visceral it's one of the things big like you're saying everybody does montage and it's very smooth the way that i want to do something very rough that was i mean when i show this i actually show the newspaper to. on with the hand . drawn and printed onto it and it's a question who it who are the hand the victims of all of these very drunks of share prices or are they that you know of of the hands of the stock market or of the stock brokers i mean i did i use i used to take out with some of these images in take it down to the stock exchange and just put them up in the street to get discussion and some stopper of his did i actually think it was a special stockbroker offer them in a game bird to get a good show and you think the anger is subsided a little known boris johnson prime minister who famously said i've done more for the bank is than anyone else and there was a good thing to say yeah yeah. no good still i mean the poverty is is incredible in
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this country and that's another thing we talk about what's washed up in the media if the e.u. which is to be dogged by john pilger on this program is an agency of nature why is nuclear weapon so important it's been borne throughout your work and your people here in mainstream media is that they don't even cover the trade now and the debates lead to the threat of global annihilation why do you think it's lessened in putin's in the media generally begin i think that in both of those you know the media sort of needs to ties in people that they think that you know what. they've kept the piece of that sort of thing obviously now with trump he's torn up the. intermediate treaty tree yeah nuclear treaty so you know there's a theoretically cruise missile a cruise missiles could come back and so on because today people may not remember the protect and survive actual government no no and that you followed him around
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you know they've done with that's one of the things to actually remind people and of course there is now an enormous connection because they say that the american military. is the biggest user of oil of any company in the world. doing something for. extinction about him and they do something in october where i'm going to combine. the missing and the arms trade and they all oil production is you already done projections with your heat finishes this book the projections. for the office and the engine rebel in me my feeling is that if we're actually going to get anywhere now we've got to come together all these different groups with different specialist interests of actually got to come together where i think it's right doc time is wearing and you know rise of fascism and fascism and you know i mention a vote over that on the other hand the rebellion against it is
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growing you know and even in the art world there's much more questioning like of sponsorship which is something i go into and it is how have you seen that change was up if you could say the abstract expressionist were political yeah they were really so that we went through the eighty's attach area which is in this book presuming it out schools maybe even when you were teaching now they would have said oh don't go away that i don't being a real love you explain too much. changing though it's slightly changing it's changing because the students that demand it because they've. well it is so different from when i was a student you know they specially in london where they live how do they pay for it so that as and took that consciousness so they started thinking about social and political issues because that's how the people do think about them through their own involvement peter cannot thank you and that's it for the show will be back on saturday 59 years to the day of the u.k. back to military could you vote but very late to assassinate the democratically
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elected government of patrice lumumba in the democratic republic of congo a deal that he would not try social media unsubscribed going underground jonell feel that. well you know the cars they were kind of adopted because we were called pirates for so long. i mean they're into small boats next to the hard pool of ships and you can . see a lot sometimes you. know little self to be told fish already 90 percent of the dot and he won't be calmer. contemplations coops $75.00 tons 2 and they do it several times a day with
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a big fleet so now you get an idea of why ocean. we have to understand we cannot stay still and just. be with them this will be the only going to go out. i'm doing this because i want the future world to the future generations to have and enjoy the ocean how we have. kind of financial survival job today was all about money laundering 1st to visit this cash into 3 different. oh good this is a good start well we have our 3 banks all set up here maybe something in europe something in america something overseas in the cayman islands or do we do all these banks are complicit in the kleptocracy who decide to give mccomas a camera to do some serious money laundering ok let's see how we did well we've got
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a nice luxury watch for max and for stacey oh beautiful jewelry and how about. luxury automobile again for max you know what money laundering is highly illegal don't be a close watch guys record. this is this is a stick of water bottle phone in the stomach of the fish the brand is part of the coca-cola company which sells millions of bottles of soda every day the idea was that let's tell consumers there are the bad ones there are the litter bugs are throwing this away industry should be blamed for all of this waste to company has promised to reuse the plastic. soon. especially. on.
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the mountains of moist only grow while. the u.s. president fires one of the most hawkish members of his team white house member john bolton who becomes the 3rd national security adviser to be dismissed by donald trump. also this hour memorials are held across the u.s. for the victims of the 911 terror attacks continue to question the way the investigation has been handled. they wanted to. rejoin 1st. the families and the family members survivors. and germany and periods china by rolling out the.
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