about his bricks it policy going underground might be back for a new series but parliament has just been shut down for the next 5 weeks so how will the u.k. parliament's m.p.'s and select committees scrutinize boris johnson's conservative government as it runs the risk of it breaking the law or over a new deal breaker joining me now is the new chair of the lords easy justice subcommittee lord morris forward to the general thanks for coming back on before i get send your memoir book is out and made come out and english before we get to the letter. what is the e.u. justice up committee while it's a subcommittee of the main you have appeared committee and our job is to ensure that we supervise what the government is doing in relationship to iraq and what you oppose doing to our country pretty central very sensual particularly for european nationals living in this country and vice versa british people living in other countries and i have many friends going back many years and they i know how anxious

they've been living in spades were anxious about their health and their pensions because now they are protected and able to avail themselves of the local schemes and they're anxious to know what their future is and in the same way europeans will be working in adverted for years and years. anxious because they haven't got a piece of paper to show that they're entitled to live here and that's been the battle in the past of trying to ensure they have something more than an email because we don't want the repetition of the wind of us condo to ensure that they know what their status is i don't think that is a little problem in substance i believe it will work itself out but people are anxious because they have got a piece of paper to show that they are have settled status here they get settled status if they've been here 5 years there's no difficulty. then you get

a please settle status if it's a period shorter than that then they can reapply the full settle status but just a vote of all the people and also advised people who have got advisors counselors lawyers whatever they're the people probably at the end of the working scale anxious and our job has been we've sent delegates members of the committee of the pas to the headquarters of the home office that is operating the scheme in liverpool to find out what is happening on the over the over hof i think it's a over the 1000000 up of the 3000000 people in this country have now had settled status and the numbers are going up and i think. what they can but what are the numbers i mean you rich i want to get on to the to the left of this is away from all the procedures and all the drama in westminster this is what is the scale here because we see millions of people are british nationals are in the e.u.

and there are millions of those here in britain tell me about this letter that you've written not pretty to tell but to the brics it secretary. well we're asking their go to the 3rd of september we haven't had a reply yet asking for an update of the position of all the. british people living in europe regarding their health their pension provision of that car and we want an update given that the government is pledged to levy of of the 31st of october an update of what their position is and then we will someone witnesses i suspect to ask the government to close examine them as to how efficient and how wide and how comprehensive the provision is to give assured still people who are very very very well they'd know that paula bench is poor weak. it

will commit you can sit so we can do our job supervising what is happening so there's new scrutiny and at the same time boris johnson has been very clear they would rather no deal breaks it by the 30. you just said the $35.00 whereas parliament is saying no there's not going to begin to deal on the 31st which means presumably the meat and potatoes of this letter it's. it's up for grabs as part of the negotiations whether it be the irish sea backstop whether it be whatever citizenship brady i think anything can happen but in the meantime we're not able to give a show that people. regarding the fish should see of the scheme operated by the home office and when we come back we will sit and consider it but of course as a former attorney general you're very aware that in these 5 weeks parliament may not be sitting but courts will be sitting we've already seen that recent cases of the supreme court and other lower level courts being talked about john major former

prime minister gina miller bringing case is denied about process presumably if anything came up as regards the issues in this letter of a national status in this country a british national stage in the e.u. before the 7th of october. someone could bring it up in court or something to avoid being the prospect of deportation what could be it could be but we have this once parliament closes down and does not sitting this very long period to pull the geisha is really. so fundamentally dangerous for ordinary people ordinary people of this card who are anxious to be satisfied that their lights are protected with a speaker. did seem to be slightly concerned about it but it's all legal it's part of the british political process the government is quite entitle to do what it's

been doing as regards purgation brazil. yes well i said that quite clearly in a one interview i had with the times recently that i. know the procedures have been followed it's the party ministers duty to advise the queen extended duty and a convention of the queen accept the advice of the privatised. of the house is that . i suspect i may be wrong i suspect the court will hold that all the procedures how be taken but that doesn't go back to the problem the basic problem is that there is no paula bent to supervise the government to make the government and that is the heart of the problem and is that not the reason why many are resorting to the courts there's been a new book where former supreme court justice would sumption lot of legal debate

about what is the rule of the supreme court in britain can the supremes court overrule the prime minister you mentioned the the queen presumably the queen is of no importance in any of this she is just a figurehead but do we live in a constitutional monarchy or a democracy my guess is that the courts will not intervene as i said it's a surrogate. i think i could be along i would be of a surprised if the courts intervened in what is a procedural matter which seems to be had followed a political decision. quite unhappy that the courts are the vote a poor but we have a system here which we are very very proud of of judicial review where ministers and indeed public bodies can be called before the court if there is a decision has been unbelievable or they haven't followed the correct procedures so perfect title to do it but whether they would succeed. but i may be wrong because

you mention when russia interesting the former supreme court justice goes actually claimed whilst saying that we should be proud of our system and so on like. all of the big lawyers in this country the system does politically protect minorities from ethnic or religious discrimination because windrush was a clear example of where the system did not work as regards what drains a maze government was doing it was a big bug i've caused a lot of and desire to people who have been here maybe if of the age of 5 or maybe less can happen to black people that's what we want as a committee to ensure that it doesn't happen the you've appeared bases or you've appeared nationals here or british national in you up we want to ensure there is no there petition. because of a failure of

a system and i think if i guess correctly that we'd be going back to this issue time and time again it is a question of cost but when it comes to the exile people that will have to consider really what view is on the lack of air. other than an email you mentioned e-mails goes today's deadline day for martha johnson according to the law has pasta on monday he has to give up e-mails whatsapp messages around the will there be no eyebrows raised that has been one of the sources of the like coming out of downing street saying you know what. the government may break the law i mean on sirius on mainstream media programs in this country there will be debates what happens if the prime minister breaks the law what have you made of it and is it a loud 2 we're not allowed to forget but b. who breaks the law i think in public lose a 3rd of his cabinet i suspect the lord chancellor their tenure judge of the year

to the lord chancellor is obliged by a specific act of parliament with the status of the office was changed to defend the rule of law i have my guess is that there are many people in the government who would not only be unhappy but would find it very difficult to serve and they got they don't know and if you were to any general today in geoffrey caucuses and you knew that say one of dominic cummings people in downing street was briefing journalists saying you know war if necessary we'll break the law would you resign as attorney general i would be sending for the prime minister to explain what the situation is. i would not be able to serve and would you actually i mean it seems such an obvious table to serve in a government of that kind i would give you a chance to explain himself but i suspect no lawyer and you. would want to obey the government where there is

a serious expectation the prime minister intends to break the law i hope this is not an event to comment but although it's not a comment where there is any substance behind it just finally and very briefly away from breaks away from all of these debates since david cameron's resume the beginning of all sturdy the bankers bailouts legal aid has been caught and access to justice has been cut according to activist groups any chance of something changing in the near future for those seeking legal aid there's nothing of substance but we have. come to an end the matter of the lords 3 weeks ago that. is coming. to an end that the posting should be opened to jordan ordinary people have access to the law i mean they've abolished it a great portion of family law of the. of the criminal. have to

work see times as hard probably for the same pay as they had 20 years ago they've been cut and cut and cut and i would feel very unhappy to advise anyone to going to the practice of the criminal law and we desperately need good pictish has to defend the rights of citizens morris thank you. after the break with the rest set to continue with the world's largest arms fair today in london revolutionary or just be to be a complicity in war crimes and speaks about a lifetime of visual dissent. on the ground. today there are good terrorists and bad edits the bad news in yemen the united states deems to be a threat the good those who work in syria the cia and the u.s.

military were engaged in covert actions really throughout the world. where they were assassinating populist leaders they were backing up right wing military juntas funding in our means death squads there's no any more because there's always a small. really good. profit. welcome back today's 46 years since the u.s. u.k. backed coup that killed salvador allende of chile a coup supported by just 5 u.s. official john bolton well here is the arguable favorite to be britain's next prime minister paying tribute to id and where. most peoples are. british.

coffee is. just what it was an attempt to. kill a whole generation that leader unlike u.k. prime minister boris johnson oppose u.s. u.k. policy that arguably led to another anniversary today the $911.00 attacks on washington and new york were carried out by supporters of anglo-american backing for the budget heading in afghanistan let alone islam ists in yugoslavia today britain has a prime minister who attacks opponents of al-qaeda across the middle east johnson and al-qaeda let alone new labor blairites were even warned about him. by the leader who defeated them in syria or for half an hour you put a bet on the shape of the toda welcome to how people come and i replied a fear for understand people who would have felt for his ideas and did i want to. go with him i can with a phone from him boris johnson supported nato violence that arguably aided al qaeda

supporters in syria afghanistan and iraq but his support for the tory new labor blairites war in libya which created a safe haven for al qaeda in the mediterranean is more nuanced british foreign secretary boris johnson has said the removal of former libyan leader moammar gadhafi in 2011 has proved to be a humanitarian and security tragedy that was speaking on his return to the u.k. up to today because it's immediately he eyed the many rebel parties in the country to try and reach a compromise what does boris johnson know about david cameron's catastrophic destruction of africa's richest macavity country that others don't as foreign secretary he would have been privy to top secret documents pertaining to m i 6 and in my 5 relations with islam is groups in libya alleged m i 5 complicity has been raised by the father of 8 year old sufi resource the youngest victim of the manchester arena terror attack as an area grounded concept i put the blame on m i 5

and our government for this war. because the nearby woods are thinking about some a long time ago now new questions of emerged because johnson's government wants evidence about the islamist mantra serina atrocity to be heard in secret johnson's new home secretary pretty patel says it's all about national security this from someone who infamously resigned over covert meetings with supporter of al-qaeda linked groups in syria benyamin netanyahu he was one of the last leaders to meet johnson before parliament was shut down on monday and all this as even u.k. state mandated media has followed this program in this channel in reporting connections between the u.k. and those who celebrate. september the 11th we expensed our aid money and our jihad . it is unfortunately strengthening big stream ists and the islamic groups well joining me now is a chronicler of britain's so-called war on terror he is britain's foremost

political artist banksy has had 2 m. john birger says his work is holding the royal college of arts professor of political odd peter cannot his book visual dissent is out now by a brutal press joins me now thanks so much of a coming on tell me about the book and if you look through it how it seems to differ so much from the arguably advertiser lead i don't know young british artists and all the rest of it they get all the attention when it comes to british yeah well so i want to do a book that wasn't seen as an art but was actually 50 years of history because one of my just to get through to young people and to make history live was i think it's very important to know about the events so i've done 50 years since i saw in 1989 doing political stuff going right through to this year and talked about a particular subject within nature and then talked talked about what i did about it in terms of on look so you know let's explore some of that because obviously we've

just been having this scores of people have been arrested you know. just down the road from me in east london there's a double page spread in in here on the largest manufacturing company in this country it makes weapons be a way being a b. it seems to be done with an arm of the government now and it's selling arms to regimes a. totally and to human rights and it's selling arms for the saudi arabians that's why you know it's because. we know what is going on the saudi arabia especially in yemen. you know the weapons are killing civilians women and children and i say in the book that they will have these sort of the logos and be a who you know they they say we're doing this for the people of both us and all of this and they put themselves over as

a sort of peace loving company that selling something but the reality is they're making weapons well. and they state when they presumably say the government i was them to export these weapons and yeah i was the ira have to train the pilots bombing bombing yemen i'm going to ask you just mentioned already the accessibility that was so important to you over your odds. not of the magazine covers as well as the finality you did in calories around the world. for magazines nowadays i didn't see or would go to the front pages of the news like you know i mean papers of become more on a dime in the sort of in this country in images and they tend to put film stars on the cover papers think that they the cartoonist can say what they want to say because it's a cartoon so it's going to also whereas if you do a montage they think people won't understand that it's something constructed and they'll think it's an actual picture they have all these weird ideas of people on

broad health until i became a pieces. you know. the book begins it 50 years ago with kissinger. century ago when the new labor loon conservative ministers of a came to have their photograph taken with enríquez and sure that we can see the one in the book here i mean. that kicks off the whole book way way the importance of what i mean i think he he represents the sanitization of someone that to me was a warmonger in terms of fear and i'm combo did he actually instigated all the experimentation with the weapons or the napalm he was very much but the brains behind that and now he's seen as a very. honored elder statesman and i think that's what can happen to people like that you know if they live long enough people actually forget what they've done we

had the g. 8 recently or the g 7 g 7 has been you know in beer it's there's a whole selection of pictures here that you did for the g. 8 as it is then before russia was left over little change i mean they did say they gave someone a for a climate change i think but tell me about does a lot want to do saying that because the it was in the end the skin and i want to find that people could. use so what i did with those i put them all up on on the internet different sizes high rez and a lot of red so people could actually make their own versions you know what do you think would you would you do on t.v. the beer it's g 7 john barry rolling into town talking about the issues of the day the kind of concerns that you have the but i think they're talking about them in terms of theatrical rather than reality and one of one of the pictures is. of the child on to a casino table which is easy from early for leg that he hated and we can tell you

about it. you know it's a sort of roulette wheel of poverty that gambling with children's lives and the way that acting is not going to change people's lives like that it's just it's again it's window dressing and that's what the point of montage is to break through that window dressing to give people another look at what's going on i don't think it is propaganda. on telling people what to do or who to join oh it's trying to get people to think critically as media is mainly just going from one subject to another and sort of a general way and covering up a lot of what's actually going on and the point of montage is to uncover it to sort of smash it open in some way and show the collision of forces and he talked in the past with eleanor hall would change feel all these influences you pioneered a lot of new techniques and want to just you know that kind of would go into the

techniques could be used for a political yaf were what i'm thinking as you watched the technique so you may have a need to use d.d. had video of other advertising well advertising is avariciously ideas that go around takes patience taking ideas a cop you know the copywriters and the visualize a seal part of the problem i'm going to help yeah you got gene and yeah and then they take it up on whatever advertising the tories did it with such and such and they use montage you know with such labors and working with those sort of things but it doesn't mean that my own images can get used by them because they hopefully the critique is in it so they can't be it can be misused you know it's as i say in the book that one of the was i was told by tory that she loved it and she put it had it in the loo in number 10 as queen victoria's book i don't know if it's true but that's what he said. well obviously everything that happens right now in

british politics arguably it all whereas didn't bulleteer mean the influence of the bailout of the banks in 2008 tell me about the pictures of the hands in the stock market so i just wanted to make sure i'm very visceral it's one of the things big like you're saying everybody does montage and it's very smooth the way that i want to do something very rough that was i mean when i show this i actually show the newspaper to. on with the hand. drawn and printed onto it and it's a question who it who are the hand the victims of all these very drunks of share prices or are they the other the hands of the stock market or of the stock brokers i mean i did i use i used to take out with some of these images in take it down to the stock exchange and just put them up in the street to get discussion and some stopper of his did i actually think it was a special stockbroker offer them in a game bird to get a good show and you think the anger is subsided

a little known boris johnson prime minister who famously said i have done more for the bank is than anyone else and though there was a good thing to say yeah yeah. no yeah good story i mean the poverty is is incredible in this country and that's another thing we talk about what's washed up in the media if the e.u. which is to be dogged by john pilger on this program is an agency of nature was nuclear weapon so important it's been born throughout your work and your people here in mainstream media certainly don't even cover the try to debate a little of the threat of global annihilation why do you think it's lessened in putin's in the media generally begin i think that's part of the you know the media sort of needs to ties in people that they think that you know what. they've kept the peace so i sort of think of the scene now with trump he's torn up the. intermediate treaty tree yeah nuclear treaty so you know there's

a theoretically cruise missile cruise missiles could come back and so on because today people may not remember the protect and survive actual government no no and that you followed him around you know they've done with that's one of the things to actually remind people and of course there is now an enormous connection because they say that the american military. is the biggest user of oil of any company in the world. doing something for. extinction about him and they do something in october where i'm going to combine. the mist and the arms trade and they all oil production is you already done projections which you read finishes this book the projections. for the office and the engine rebellion in me my feeling is that if we're actually going to get anywhere now we've got to come together all these different groups with different specialist interests are actually go to come together where i think it's right doc time is wearing and you know rise of fascism

and fascism and you know i mention a vote over that on the other hand the rebellion against it is growing you know and even in the art world there's much more questioning like of sponsorship which is something i go into and it is how have you seen that change because i could say the abstract expressionist were political here they were really so that we went through the eighty's attach area which is in this book i presume we had art schools maybe even when you were teaching no they would have said oh don't go yet i don't being a real losses do you explain too much. changing no it's slowly changing it's changing because the students to demand it because they've. well it is so different from when i was a student you know they rush in london where they live how do they pay for it so that as and took that consciousness so they started thinking about social and political issues because that's how the people do think about them through their

own involvement peter cannot thank you and that's it for the show will be back on saturday 59 years to the day of the u.k. back to military could you vote but very late to assassinate the democratically elected government of patrice lumumba in the democratic republic of congo a deal that he would not try social media unsubscribed going underground jonell feel that. well you know the thing we've kind of adopted because we were called pirates for so long. i mean they're in the small boats next to the hard pool of ships and it's still very. much up in. the little self to be told fish already 90 percent of the dot and he won't recover.

concept 15 scoops 75 tons true and they do it several times a day with a big fleet oh you get an idea why. we have to understand we cannot stay used to just. be with this be below going to use our arms. i'm doing this because i want the future world to future generations to have and enjoy the ocean we have. with the so-called afghan peace process in tatters u.s. troops still in syria iraq more times than not agreeing with iran maximum pressure on threat failing and america's allies in the middle east at odds over yemen can anyone make heads or tails out of trumps foreign policy in the middle east it seems

to be going from bad to worse. says he thinks that a deal with iran is possible lotsof to he fired one of the most hawkish members of his white. john bolton who previously banks the us quitting the nuclear deal with. the morals of across the united states the victims of the 911 terror attacks will survive his continued to question the way it's been handled. they wanted to. reach him 1st. did the families and their family members survivors. and germany infuriates china by rolling out the red.