now mediated by non arabs has there been any progress on that front well from the very beginning actually jordan joined the ass in the form of back in 2018 i believe and was the 1st arab observe a state now in beginning of august there was and roundabouts in the talks and the assault on. iraq and lebanon joins so basically now we have all countries neighboring countries taking part in this process except of course taking part all israelis sitting on the sidelines and watch it's important to send a signal to the arab audience to the arab street that these 3. actors russia iran and turkey understands how it's vitally important to get on board arab states and i think that the and to standing that it is inevitable that sooner or later countries like egypt with about 1w1cw people

and important actors like saudi arabia or you a york. have ultimately be on board with this new original magnesium original platform so i think that understanding is coming more and more to the aleuts now from my perspective i think the founding members would also benefit from a new company because. i've got the impression that with every new meeting their mutual frustrations are growing and if you take the latest ankara made up we know that russia cherry care and that will last at full longer than expected and yet it finished with the leaders seeming i wouldn't call them a nerd but clearly depleted and we know from their later statements that the disagreements depressing disagreements over what to do in it lip haven't been resolved so how long do you think the status quo which turkey is clearly

interested in maintaining but russia is very unhappy about how long could it last well no one knows exact dates and timelines of this but you can see that actually even despite having this disagreements and repeating themselves both put in there to go on from year to year on the same issues that we need to stick to this is lip deal wanted to. fight terrorists but anyways russia continues supporting syria their army local operations which slowly but the great you are moving up north taking more and more terrorists and despite turkish retore of and even actual increasing militarization posts turkish position posts in the area it doesn't stop both leaders and countries on prating but at the same time it's kind of like. the agree to disagree and to continue this paths

because to look at this brought up. picture it look provinces to the connected with the history fred is so north eastern syria where similarly both putting rouhani support their guns bland's for this buffer zone probably in exchange for ultimately getting it live on the damascus controlled well the east of your freighters area has not been formally discussed yet so let's stick with the evening for the moment do you think turkey is deliberately dragging its feet or is it indeed so challenging to you put into practice what has committed to on cora's. ability to influence militants and terrorists and even opposition on the ground of over exaggerated because for the last several years i mean it. couldn't

stick to its commitments even for the last year we see that it's basically failed to implement what it promised to actually personally to put in there and said yes we will would make everything to stop or prevent attacks on russian military infrastructure russian personnel russian objects and also a syrian army but that continues so here it's also very hard to leadership to acknowledge that and. basically object themselves from what they previously been committing for 4 years supporting a position groups and rebels on the ground and now just you know about they also made commitments do you see those commitments. it's difficult but i don't like it's the game is going on that's and again it's impossible to look at it lip exclusive that it live as an isolated issue it's tightly connected with again not

just syria because that is more strategically important for the gun in the prism or a bargaining chip but from my understanding russia's ability to influence things on the ground in the east if you fracas is also very limited i mean moscow can offer its rhetorical support but can it provide anything practical in return for practical steps that it once turkey to take well it seems to me that russia is trying to act through turkey so basically backing its plan and. probably. implementation of this buffer zone resettling to up to $3000000.00 refuges to this areas that will certainly create a station of pressure on syrian kurds and united states which actually what. help turkey to strike more favorable deal with united states on that area and also that might help to convince kurds to be more flexible and prone to dialogue and talks

with damascus and here moscow will come. useful broker. can ask a provocative question many in moscow believe that the turks back in 2015 after the shooting down of the russian military jahan a very strong economic push back from us but that they have learned the lesson and that they won't try because patients again is that still a safe assumption well i don't see any reason why on korea would pursue this. this logic or even during the idea of repeating that scenario and i think that in the last it's already been 3 or 4 years to countries managed to establish mechanisms of military to military intelligence to teligent channels of communication to basically avoid any potential clash or incident

which could slide into you know bigger compensation interestingly it was said in ankara that russia and turkey intend to step up their operational coordination which i take as an indirect indication that the syrian army offensive on that leap is likely perhaps to intensify and turkey may want to. protect its assets now the evil rabble. crowd has a lot of media support in the west do you expect the outcry over humanitarian concerns to be just as loud as it used to but he didn't stop i mean yes it did i mean been it's been almost continuous the same level well i think the level actually decreased significantly and. i think there is a clear reason why it happened because in the past there's humanitarian concerns were used to as a means of stopping the offensive but nowadays many of the sponsors of the armed

opposition i then know that there or they have lesser interest in keeping this war going so i think some concern is there with it's much last express than before probably but just in the run up of the. encore summit there were several sources publications saying that turkish military is increasing the number of the observation posts in loop in the bid to basically slow down or prevent syrian army back by russian forces offensive towards towards the area so and. opposite to what you're saying. trying to pursuing a go of like dragging this you know if in deeper like slowing down the freezing the status quo but come on i mean. how i may be running into problems with the turks here but i don't take the humanitarian concerns at face value because they're also

known for abusing human rights quite substantially so maybe they're using their concerns for their own pragmatic interest what i want to ask you though is i'm sure both russia and syria would love to have the united nations or some international organisation to manage the humanitarian aspect of that offensive is there any chance of that happen. but i think that's impossible and rush already explicitly told that that without. eliminating terrorist threat you cannot you know get humanitarian aid in there one of the. international red cross is still working there right but if you want to inquiries amount of material and aid flowing and to make sure it's reaching its you know target audience not terrorists or. terrorist organizations in to make sure that. the state structures municipal

structures are in place not that of depart and but but the local ones and for them and that one of the major russians argument that we need to and as well they call turks to do the same to increase is push. against terrorists in a clip which will open up the road for increased humanitarian aid to. refugees coming back whatever let me ask you a quick question about one more. participant of their talks and this is. obviously iran that was one interesting moment during the televised proceedings when. rowhani kind of turned to air though on and he said that quote the aliens will leave sooner or later but will continue to be neighbors and clearly he was referring 1st and foremost to the americans but some interpreted that as a as

a job against the russians do you take it this way and compared to the turkish frustrations with moscow how big are the rainy and frustrations with russia. right it's interesting no it but if you look at you know russia turkey and iran russia actually is a neighbor of both countries not through land but for c. it has been and blacks in so russia pursued the use both countries as neighbors and even the ron and turkey also has russia as a neighbor so i wouldn't had a hard king that rouhani also meant russia so i don't take ok well i like to be have to take a very short break now but we'll be back in just a few moments stay tuned.

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welcome back to worlds apart with the likes of plenty of middle is the expert at the russian international affairs council election just before the break a rare discussing rouhani has remarked but he was clearly not the only leader who who made a splash in media splash the russian president as well tried to crack a joke. about saudi arabia missing the chance to buy russia's air defense systems which according to him could have prevented the latest attack on its oil facilities that jew both from air though on and throw money but i wonder if it's perhaps a bit too risky to joke at the saudis expense those and those are the kind of people that. they would take lightly somebody sense of humor right but it's again a matter of an interpretation i don't. see that put in actually crack a joke about saudi arabia quite the opposite he just publicly opened up an

opportunity for saudi arabia to you know it was it's in gauge with russian military technical sphere and also we know for sure that talks on. saudi by russia group and including hundreds are undergoing so that will definitely top their agenda among other things put in his visit to saudi arabia later this year but also want to point out that it actually. more interesting to see what is the reaction of iran because actually around here was a demonstrate is a we could play because he was the only nation with 300 and turkey bought as 400 and didn't invite so derivative again to more sophisticated. expert i think that's a very good marketing obvious they can always go back to russia but that will be the good up the question how iran would view and perceive the situation when saudi

arabia will be equipped with a better defense system than iran but if they stick in the agree with me that it was put in the very sort of joking way and as we say here in russia there is only so much a joke in any joke saudi arabia spends billions on in defense this how is it possible that a drone or a dozen of drones as claimed would be able to penetrate so deep into its territory and costs colossal damage. well some experts argue that the lack of training of the soda personnel who is in charge of that and secondly. as far as i know there is no specific on time drone weapon it's been on the development but. still when one area of the united states didn't speak it because of some sort of i am not an expert on the on the military technical characteristics of weapons but i mean it's the 1st time basically which one saudi arabia

faces such such an attack on such a critical and there g. infrastructure so that just indicates. the necessity and need to wait or take sometimes even more daily defenses many actually know more billions but to spend the more wisely and broker that also what would in try to refer to so that probably spend some more money on buying some russian equipment instead of american because the russian equipment also comes with the expertise and the obligation to trains nationalist and ron it is the main already we have russia has an. advantage because over the last year or 2 the russians would mean bayh's in syria been under numerous attacks also by drones and even missiles and our air defense systems not on this 100 but. pouncer and

others including the tronic war fare mechanisms aimed at repairing drone attacks proved to be quite successful so we have already tested technology and this is quite good opportunity to market them ok well let's at least military and this program and marketing show. i heard some people seriously questioned the both the saudi. the who narrative of this attack because the who to rebels almost immediately claimed responsibility and there is speculation that it was a long range cruise missile the drop of the drones i mean we would never actually said this point we don't know for sure but do you think saudi arabia may have any benefits in trying to misrepresent the nature or the means of this attack. well i think the 1st the very 1st reaction of saudi arabia is very indicative they didn't

act in aligned with the united states and didn't immediately put the blame on iran but what they did they claimed that they were would collect the gather its national experts with the reps of the u.s. knights of nations to have a thorough investigation and actually that's what also put in the cold saudi prince with whom he had a talk just a couple of hours ago to have this. comprehensive investigation so i think saudi arabia understands ole possible risks especially dragging into another war not being sure the united states will back or even lead this war so i think they will continue this cautious. behavior and won't try to escalate speaking about being dragged into a major war to me personally this attack looks a little bit like 911 not in terms of the human loss but in terms of the simplicity with reach it was perpetrated identifying a weak link and heating where it hurts the most do you see any symbolism here going

after the saudis most iconic asset by the use of air power whatever it was i mean at a very least it exposed saudi arabia as a paper target a country that stands so much in security and that cannot protect its major facility look i don't think that anyone took seriously saudi arabia. truong militarily i mean i don't know much you have the last day have you how much are they so bad on that it does it does you have it it doesn't matter look at the last 23 years and the saudi adventure in yemen so they initiated the war with. way under armed under trained professional yemenis and well but we had similar episodes 6 in history i'm. in the soviet union it was also very strong militarily but it wasn't very successful in the waging

a rebel warfare in afghanistan so i mean that you cannot put that only on saudi arabia but when it comes to them spending so much resources on protecting themselves and being absolutely defenseless against what is said to be a drone well again the it's. a curse in the blessing to be us partner so it's all about the united states now another. yes and no but it's important factor because actually all were i mean just the powers who are united states partners don't invest. a part of the military heavily in their training or in the thing they've been haven't been involved in any military serious military affairs for for decades that attack on the saudi oil infrastructure comes on the heels of the still mysterious attacks on

oil tankers in the sea of amman and i say mysterious because the general public is still being kept in the dark about the identity of the perpetrators but i cannot believe for a 2nd that intelligence agencies beat off russia iran israel france or the united states for that matter don't know who stands behind it why do you thing there's so little information about those attacks still i mean months later well i think it's probably because of the entire region is kind of a ticking bomb and you don't want to exist tensions in escalations by throwing you know mrs courtenay to. results of investigation or even without investigation which could escalate. the situation so i would argue that everyone understands the importance do you think they know of what happened then who did it. i don't know for sure but yeah i mean i can't exclude this probably the know but it's not about what you know but how you deal with the

information which you have whether you. can unveil it or is it profitable and what consequence is an outcomes will it to now we mentioned the yemeni conflict before and in addition to cracking jokes marketing the sales of russian weaponry whatever . you know how and where you put it russian president also side the qur'an in ankara to called the parties in the yemeni conflict to peace or as he said that twice to turn anime's into brothers is moscow looking into. getting more involved in the yemeni mediation i think it follows up with. it falls in line with russia's general policy of marketing itself as a broker in the region so just using yemen as a stark example because it's connected with the recent attack on oil facilities in

saudi arabia and that's being one of the major reasons as also rouhani said that that was actually the logical response from yemeni people because they've been on their catastrophic. siege and for 4 years now and. put in try i think. position our country which has the. big boss the minority also to position itself on as procure the book which understands not only your job political security concerns but also culturally even religiously and i think that also plays into putting his hand as a super professional diplomat negotiator is that clever and. now as you said before put in a schedule to visit saudi arabia and the united arab emirates next month and on the eve of that visit moscow has been playing up its what it calls the gulf security

initiative which i think runs in contrast to what the united states is offering there talking about multilateralism instead of the arab nato less weaponization of the region the russian foreign affairs ministry even called for a quote holistic mechanism to collective security i think this is the 1st time i see them using the word holistic. is that just the p.r. exercise for russia or is there indeed a chance of practical chance of some of those initiatives to be put into practice in the 1st place this initiative has been you know. in the works for for decays and is just another iteration of russia's proposal for these concept security concept for if they just russia as you know selfish marketing or does it actually believe that something like this could be implemented at this point of time with the region

as a day it's not about what you believe in it's just about you know what diplomacy is about it's the art of of possibility so you keep trying trying trying in every possible moment and no one knows if you know around the corner or another attempt will finally. succeed so and now it's the perfect time especially after the attacks in saudi oil facilities to again to push and act by the diplomatic push for this concept or at least spark another wave of talks or negotiations within the region between the countries so i don't think it's just p.r. it's i mean it's both anyways well it's p.r. with some stuff like well actually we have to leave it there but it's as always it's a pleasure talking to you thank you very much for being here. our viewers keep this conversation going in our social media pages ask for me and the team we hope to see you again same place same time on the worlds apart.

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