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medicine has stuns me because like pakistan even if you have nuclear weapons nowhere the ability to mr and mrs. to hear it don't you think that the americans or the trumpet ministration least has aided these attention seeking on the part of the leadership in teheran because i mean one thing is it's propaganda but the economic sanctions and these tightening of the screws that the. trumpet ministration has pursued is something very serious i mean if we just look at that figure is how much oil iran has been able to export over the last couple of years the figures show a very very dramatic plunge from some 2500000 barrels per day at a couple of years ago to almost 100000 and to live this is a very very dramatic decline and i'm sure the fact everybody into iran whether people are in in the government or simply as you said on the street and yes you know the there is a difference in and usually for the past 40 years
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a patent had been established between the united states and the islamic republic according to this pattern and the islamic republic rules do some i guess if moves you know some mischief from their medicine point of view but then quietly if you treat then the united states would offer some concessions and then to go for the next phase but you know the 2 how to lead to do this dance to yet be dug going beyond certain limits for example the islamic republic has or has had an american hostage or to a number of american hostages and the americans have negotiated for the dillies of just hostages but neither side wanted to go beyond certain events and he said he was sorry and the tension in the persian gulf if you know in the gulf of oman that he said that tacks on so i would be on song. to a station in tehran so that nobody's kid is. none of the ships out about the
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damaged north america and target is attacked and so on. but mr trump has changed this stance because he insists you know that the. islamic republic should in fact surrender to him he's done today therefore a secret they go she she wants to take a picture in tehran down the leaders as she did read north korea to say you know in the next election that i tamed i don't scurry as i bleed the chinese i. counted yes or for the line i brought there by laws of tehran and so on so trump has changed the rules of the game that has been going on for 40 years but with all due respect is it the is it the only trying to change that because as you mentioned there has been some moves and countermoves from both sides over the last couple of decades but it's been a couple of weeks since the absolutely brazen attack on the saudi oil facilities
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a few months since the still mysterious strikes against oil tankers in the sea of amman as you mentioned geez think those advances have the same muster mind and do you think the streak all of obscure he has but obscure but very profound very impactful hits that we haven't witnessed before is it likely to continue. really don't know because you know the islamic republic was playing the 40 year old game backward into the stablished rules but. now this is that it has had absolutely no impact trump is not ready you know to. do anything you know in any form of concessions you know the 12 points foot by secretary of state usa could devastate from pill for it is a republican they are in fact cutting them all out in tehran but the united states is not giving them any of the warts for that is not telling them you know like for example. and obama did or president bush did before about 3 gun did carter that
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clinton did all of them and then went islamic republic treaty to do a little bit did want to you 1000000 today the decider just sort of friendship even president obama smuggled money to today's driver here probably for president they got a smuggled officer to the islamic republic but you don't know so then the leadership in tehran says that there was a game have changed trump does not want to know to play the organ he's playing another j by the fact nobody knows what this new games rules are i gather it's from your writings that you put the blame for those attacks squarely on task or on something that the leadership into iran denies and something that i have to say the russian intelligence agencies also dispute if you believe the iranians are behind the attacks on that on call on oil tankers why do you think they would do something like that well 1st of all i didn't say that iran was behind this and it's i that
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you know and if if i believed it i would write it so you don't think that's the case i don't know but what i'm saying is that it's looks like a james that has been playing for deposit fortius you know the. u.s. embassy in tehran was clear you know it was the beginning of all the patent you know the condom eddins station in beirut you know i don't think of hostages dying over the head of the cia in beirut where there is a recent attacks maybe they were done by jinny's or by i don't talk about j.t. i don't know but what is clear is that oil does this and that are exactly following the old pattern they have not worked well mr to harry you said that there has been a long established pattern and yet i think many people with claim that. we have never seen before some. thing like the attacks on that i'm
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a facility i know that you suggested that whoever planned those attacks was more interested in testing the waters and seeing how far it was possible to go without the making a crushing response inevitable but taking out half of the saudi oil production even temporarily strikes me as more than just asking the what is it's actually taking a pretty deep plunge do you think that hackers actually aiming for such massive damage could they have imagined that this crucial facility would be left so nakedly unprotected and with similar things have happened before you know and i teed. it is he said the 7 days i made it public in truck to flow of oil from kuwait by fighting undefined kits they made it doesn't reflect the tankers and exported or allows as a medicine or it just. maybe it was
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a bit bigger to be ethical and not i'm cool but it comes in the context of. a different context of oil or trade because a united this is no longer dependent on the persian gulf for it it doesn't come to be just a producer of oil itself and the saudis have huge reserves in. which they have closed because they don't want the price of oil to come down and attack on. recent attacks will be compensated for rigid if you reach so you know it's not going to have a long term effect that does or can't see the price of oil has not jumped as expected and i don't think there's i mean he probably wanted the price of oil to jump or this i would be ordered to be interrupted only to wanted to do was to do the exactly the whole game to say you see if you prefer prevent me and they said open it is a fee cost base for thought or the no. well this would be able to export our or so
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please pay attention to us but we need to do a bit of mischief to keep our position as a revolutionary movement as a successor to the soviet union as a challenge to capitalism and imperialism and western domination of the world the things they say you know or this discourse is centered on that please let us have that discourse we are not going to do to go beyond the set and i don't that you also believe that with the trumpet mr ation tightening the screws on iran the status quo is becoming increasingly unsustainable for the reigning letisha but isn't that also true for the saudi leadership don't they also have reasons to kind of shake things up because it's clear that donald trump is not rushing to that defines this is clear that all the billions that baseband on those. air defense systems are sensually. a waste of time and money so don't you think that the saudis
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would also have a motive to get some attention from the united states and particularly donald trump yes but you know this i would haven't done anything to gain attention or not and then by repeating this i would use should rely on their own resources and in the process and in the past 40 years if you are talking about saudis all of it is how did on policy views of you know on their allies of the united states but they were not complete followers of the united states so we did. islamic republic into iran to organize the islamic summit even paid for it iran had very good editions with president rafsanjani the. highest number of places for the hatch visit image. which is not many to advise for permission they did a lot of favors i did issues between the 2 sides they improved but as i try to take during this conversation. the pattern of the game in the past 40 years has
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changed there was a stout disco in reach nobody was happy but nobody was to on i.p.i. that but now that this started school is being destabilized don't know what is great to displace while it misted to hear what we know for sure is that to be now have to take a very very short break but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. but if she warned you posted by you than i do the dishes at the bottom or those jeans nudist beach and you see me we need you blue truth.
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the demonstrations going to be relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it your goal here. is put. neighborly is that i do believe that all of the former ukrainian president recalls the events of 2040 and. those who took. invested over $5000000000.00 to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. welcome back to well the part of me that i may have to haiti and they're brainy and the writer and the chairman of the gates down institute in europe mr to here we have been discussing the americans the iranians the saudis let's talk about the
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europeans now because just the other day the leaders of the united kingdom france and germany came out with a what i thought was a very strange statement blaming the attack on iran and that's after weeks of kind of trying to seed on the fans and trying to keep their neutrality what do you think happened to the e.u. 3 well you know the it is between a rock on the hearts place they don't know what to do because. they don't want this tension between the united states if you publish to go beyond set and limits because if something absolutely disastrous happens in the village and the europeans are to be the 1st to suffer you know days i mean the public has a record of terrorist activities in european countries especially in france 117 people have been assassinated the pos 40 years but in the past 10 years the
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islamic republic has been quiet it has not been doing any mischief in europe it doesn't trading with europe so the europeans want to keep that i do when i talk to the european as policy measures leaders etc they seem to have 3 preoccupations that the 1st preoccupation is that if this situation in egypt and i did these are if you probably goes beyond certain limb is out of to be going to have a systemic collapse in iran like you had in syria the 2nd problem is that really distension has spread to the whole of the middle east because that i shiites in various. other countries apart from iran it would become a big mess the feds. problem or concerned the europeans. have this you know i just think it goes beyond the set and limits. try to clear this mess is there somebody to run it on off the islamic republic force because
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there is a republic has many many open and some are good i mean as are many groups many parties but that isn't you know under her eyes an alternative so these are the european because it but if they have so many concerns as you mentioned what's the point though for essentially abandoning iran when it needs them most and siding indirectly siding with the americans because this is essentially what they did they not only didn't deliver on diet part of day scipione but they are now putting the blame for everything on their run and doing it in a very very strange way because that the statement that i mentioned it doesn't cite any evidence it makes no mention of a television source as it simply says that there is no other plausible explanation as if it was an exercise in formal logic rather than intelligence collection if if we're talking about an act of war which is what the attack on around call was doesn't it war and
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a harsher response than these retorted wagging over thinker well i don't know because i don't said the european policy but today i'm just stunned this situation and i don't justify it but you know do they really think that if you decide to completely redesign here probably did lose all influence to trump on this issue is better to keep some influence for trump this is why i present my cronut france talk to president trump about accepting an official visit to be on his joining the g. 7 summit by us is that if the foreign minister and the americans accept it so you know the maybe side usually i delete. you know because president trump is a very complicated. leader and i've never met him you know i haven't talked to him so but the europeans think that he's a state influence about it so you have to give him something every now and then for
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he's a person does attacks doesn't cost anything but on the other hand b. to get on yaz that look you know you are working for you we are trying to. negotiate a credit facility for us $15000000000.00 does love your public's needs $60000000000.00 a yeah in order to pay these essential. expenses you know the side of his of his civil service is military so the o.p.'s if you are working on the president micro is really a far as i can think dedicated to it is i mean he probably assembled by me and i'm so right until he's off of them any kind of position election receive trump is that if trump is not there so you know they have a short policy of templating both sides giving a little self to the americans i need to stop today you know he has said that to to have influence on both size and that influence is please don't go beyond set the
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limits now you know i had a chance to talk to foreign ministers that have just after his trip to france and there are that interview he was as usual mocking the europeans all for not being able to stand up to the american pressure but that was also clear that he was still holding out their hold that the europeans may come around b.j. c.p.o. a the nuclear deal may still be salvaged or that iran and the very least may be able to exploit this rift between europe and america don't you think badly of this european turnaround the europeans may gain some influence with trump whatever it's worth but they may. is that influence with the would they rain ians i don't know because you know the i understand the position of that you found who on the outside on it in a very bad situation not to due to their own faults you know you're doing 3 days on
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end media to see how they are attacked every day but the center of their policy has been this nukes the nuclear did so if you does debt you know that they have really nothing. to feel that hold of it and their last hope is european so that it has to walk to utopia so that he really tell his opponents and you don't you see i'm also mocking the they are p.s. by the same time quietly to talk to the europeans to try to assemble their money as i suggested. if that is. salvaged or a floating for another year or 2 on to the end of the american position election that also that action is and islamic republic itself next march which is very important if there is nothing you know if the present situation continues if the european hope is also dust then rouhani is that if their groovin be wiped out soon
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after the c.e.u. 3 statement was published president rouhani indicated that he is now open to a madman's to the nuclear deal provided that the united states lifted sanctions is that the little too late did do you think there is still a chance for these if a deal to be resurrected yet you know this amendments rissa just said even before trump became president for example and you don't how do i get it to do these additional protocols and you know out of the $52.00 sites it on the nuclear sites or early 22 have been open to inspection but there are not probably is to open the other 2 have as well. the problem is every day american side you know will trump and his group be satisfied. or not even if they're satisfied do they want to sit on their set and to be advertised you know to be photographed to feed it to be on t.v.
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to be on russia today t.v. and every other t.v. or not that would be very difficult for the islamic republic to accept islamic republic is ready to do become citizens but quietly not to lose face it's interesting you say that because i was watching a delayed as interviewed the generosity of dave to c.n.n. and he still strikes me as being a little bit similar to the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov who has this habit of sort of talking around trump whenever there is a negative development he tends to attribute that to the american bureaucracy some mid-level saboteur within the administration but not the commander in chief itself and i thought that that he was pretty much playing the same game do you think the iranians are still hoping to leverage mr trump albeit indirectly. not you not i'm not you know blame me everything on. american bureaucracy or anybody you know the u.s. has by lots of problems in iran i don't know whether there is time to talk about
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these or not these bilateral problems can be solved very quickly is there multilateral problems that are difficult to solve and then you know you need regular diplomacy and at the moment the president trump you know the diplomacy seems very difficult for me that he threw on you know or whoever it is and place and in tehran they don't have to play just one game you know if you're know how to play chess you don't necessarily know how to play poker so sudden this somebody comes and plays another game and they don't know what to do with it you know their best hope is to temporize. and they continue on to the next american election if trump is out there sigh of relief because the democrats are better disposed towards the islamic republic and if trump is dead he would no longer need to be
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people i think for to get off syria read them in order to be done election so you know maybe we can go back to the old game. quietly give me your concession as i quietly you and a living pressure on us and finally let me ask you a question about the arena in elections i know that you believe that the divisions between belabor else and the hardliners in iran are more theatrical than substantive in the us given that to be a month away from being a parliamentary vote in iran would you really want the are all jaime's every faction to be on to mind in my opinion to know it is better to you know to the to lead this revolution and islamic republic to go to his logical conclusion but you know the problem is in the days later here public is that neither side neither of these rival was are allowed to order unable to carry out their policies so you know the whole country is paralyzed and despite our lease is against the interests of
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iran as a nation and the case the interests of iran as a vehicle for the whole may decide that evolution it is so. you know if for example before i came to see you here i passed in front of the british house of commons read there are breaks it for and against demonstrations and i talked to some participants they are as divided as you know in the islamic republic at the moment they hate each other they are not even ready to talk to each other but nevertheless they are bound to by a different set of values by the institution. is down by his city and in the end you know they can manage the differences through elections and is that he probably has doubts possibly you know how many of the hostages were not kept in these i mean if you publish
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a lot of people who have been campaigning for his lobby he probably have been campaigning for islamic revolution in europe and the united states because dad been encouraged by rouhani is that a faction of people. before that you know there are many pro islamic republic you don't be as outside you don't who did not go back to you know well i missed it so here i suppose you are probably one of them i'm not one of them yes really you can go back to ron no no i don't i don't plan no i don't want to go back to you know what i'm saying is that because i'm not the so forth that i was i mean to public i've been open until i was over here public i was saying that out so forth as of islamic republic we did not go back because there would be at instance you know this is because the islamic republic leadership is divided if there is one day that she read to one a strategy then you would know the news well i missed it to hear you have to leave it there nonetheless thank you very much for being with us today i really enjoy gatos i'm sorry it is finished well our viewers can definitely keep this
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conversation going in our social media pages as for me and the team we hope to syria again same place same time on the worlds apart. the tense situation in venezuela is still all over the news the problem in venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented but that socialism has been played only implement inside venezuela things look different we're going to
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