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also injured but really no serious injuries and no fatalities yes but arguably in london when there were riots the authorities here doubled down and they created austerity where is you know on kong it seems to be one cave in after another to protest as you called off the legislation very legal unity with china back in 2012 you called of education curriculum changes because of protests why is it the hong kong authorities do everything the demonstrators appear to want them to do although some western media would like to portray our government as suppressor of the masses actually as you said our government has come pick children had several times to mass demonstrations because we are strong protect our rights and freedoms and we got jealously our reputation you know and there is a lot of external pressure on us if there are any accusations against us so the
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whole call police they're actually much more sinned against than sinning well presumably not going to be too late by giving on going to the back to the british were does it make you feel when you see the british show union jack being flown by the protest is and people wanting british rule well i think they should go to the pit console and ask them for protest passports for all those who flight because flights or want to exchange their british national overseas possible for british citizen passports they look at it as solid a resounding no because the british have been amending then nationality and immigration legislation in the past decades so as to the bar hong kong people so these people are very naive if they think they can't get help when protection from the pictish or the americans by flying their flags you probably remember when britain. ruled ongoing in a defacto dictatorship is it
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a failure of hong kong authorities as regards education that the young in hong kong some of the young you know gong don't remember the british defector dictatorship our young people i think they have been you know very set thick thumbs up our new school curriculum which has crowded out the study of chinese history and chinese culture and a lot of them have been brainwashed into believing that only western values are the universal core values and they have forgotten the need for respect and tolerance for views which are different of their own that's why in the past 100 days or more they had been fights between different groups of citizens would is the class dimension to the protests because i understand that though 1300000 people are trapped in poverty in hong kong and we seldom hear about that of course in the
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western major nation mainstream media which is the relation between poverty demonstrators perhaps for china and demonstrators pro-west i have doubts once so about the 1300000 thyca are people living below poverty line but it is true that we have an acute land then housing crisis in hong kong you know about 200000 families have to live in a very small abject subdivided queue because at their high red posts and i think a lot of the anger has 22 or 3 acute housing problems and also the widening wealth gap and it is a fact that our government has not done anything to cure these problems in the past 22 years i think that is really what lies at the root of the anger do other members of the cabinet share say policy concerns over privatization in. hong kong i know
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you are active as regards the link real estate. investment trust and the poor market trade is rents went up by so much but i have no problem with the free market economy but if you look at the hong kong stock markets tour high flyers the 2 stocks which have done well they are the link rates and the n.p.r. see they've done better than our property developers because basically they enjoy one up unless they enjoy and monopolies and captive markets handed over by them by our government. because of poor policies. you did the u.s. congress there's a law currently being examined that gong like mainland china as regards donald trump's trade war what impact do you think that will have will it actually help the homegrown authorities or authority over the people you know go what you're talking about the hong kong human rights and democracy act 2 or 19 which
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a player needs to amend the 99000 to us hong kong policy acts which gives public all different treatment for mainland china under u.s. law this time to new york though they have tightened up the scrutiny they are requiring the secretary of states to make any or certificate that there is no violation of human rights freedom should all that sort of thing in hong kong and it is more intimidating because it affects one's sanctions against persons identified by by the administration as undermining white said freedoms and this is sending a very negative signal is about hong kong in fact holocaust has a very good standing of its war law so this all top allegations are really unfounded and the bill is intimidating and sending very
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negative signals of our home cough are you prepared to be assigned national chicken unhappy are you prepared to be sanctioned person and not worry about censure. i don't see any ground for sentient being meat but i'm not worried about sentient you know what time and happy about is when the u.s. congress how to hearings recently the congressional executive commission on china as well as the senate foreign relations committee they chose to hear only form rhetoric coves rather than hear form a wider range szabo pinions from hong kong so they have formed very negative bias picture of the state of freedoms and human rights in hong kong. i would do the your colleagues in beijing say about how the hong kong authorities have have handled these protests because usually movie long is just you gave us destabilization of
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jonah whether it be the drugging of its population and all sorts of attempts to destroy it want to be in china it's not be the well who's it what the common accusation of the west is china would intervene in hong kong would intervene in the heavy metal heavy handed way they would be a repeat of the solid can been events you know. they take has actually been exceedingly restrained in in their approach to walk the events in hong kong they are leaving it to us to resolve our own problems and i think we are resolved to use our own legislative and law enforcement resources to bring the current quizes to a close i think we won't disappoint critics who are looking to beijing to intervene in the heavy handed manner so that they can accuse spacing of breaking their promises in the sign up addiction declaration and in the basic law i don't think we
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were for into that chat but when it comes to bringing people out of poverty when it comes to growth rates why do you think china does so much better than the special administrative region of ongoing we used to be far more efficient and effective before $997.00 i think it's because our democratic development you know i'm not at malls think democratic development but the introduction of democratic popular elections thus mean that we have to allow a lot more time for the bates discussions and the filibustering in our legislature which prevents us from getting things done as effectively as before we saw you just saying that it's better under the british. well we were socially more more efficient under the british you know in the before 997 although we did not have democracy until we did not have elections to the legislature until 9091 but
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we have walked lol so whole call was free even though we do not we did not have western style democratic elections and that system served us well you know whereas we have been going downhill since we changed our political system to a mall mall at the sario and democratic one so will you be the next chief executive of hong kong replace a gary lam it's not i don't think so in my policy is to help the chief executive to stop the violence and bring that. to a close ship. 3 years and i will support would you have thank you of the break as merkel backs trump in the persian gulf we speak to senior german dillinger and p. 7 document about the tragic contradictions of european union foreign policy. but
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welcome back today saudi arabia concludes this year's u.n. general assembly in new york this after donald trump said he wants to send hundreds of his soldiers to protect the kingdom that beheads and crucifies another country not only hosting u.s. troops but the u.s. is largest overseas bases germany which agrees with britain and the usa that iran was behind asymmetric attacks on saudi arabia that cause record breaking spikes in oil prices well we went to the use of about just me to a member of the bundestag dealing deputy chair of foreign policy in arms exports 7 doug dillon on the site of where the berlin wall once stood i have just start with iran and in your capacity as the left group deputy chair foreign policy and arms exports and disarmament do you agree with people in the angular merkle
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c.v. you say there's a moral duty to be there in the straits of hormuz to protect shipping from iran and i think we're there's a moral duty to deescalate in the region at the position persian gulf because at the moment to station as very explosive and we have to. we have to make more pressure that all the military ships will go out of the region why do you think britain was so quick to offer support to the united states and donald trump over iraq well it's not a secret that great britain even in the past is very often very unconditionally on the side of the us. regarding war policies in the region and for middle east for example war against iraq and so we have
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a saying in germany as well that tony blair the former prime minister in great britain was the portal of george w. bush in us and it seems that johnson as the new pool of the us president donald trump do you think your views a shared obviously by dealing the group of the liquor buddies but is it shared by other elements of. the political system here in germany well the majority of the people in germany is against a war against iran they are totally against it and they are in favor of deescalation and diplomacy rather than to. send troops or warships to the region we have to prevent and do everything to prevent a war against iran because we. assume that it will be worse than the war
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against iraq if it will start against iran see having prime minister johnson would say he doesn't want a war over and here we are in berlin germany has the largest overseas united states army base in the world there are tens of thousands of american soldiers germany is germany in all approved well i never said it's not but we had a no decision of the parliament and the government regarding the war against iraq we didn't follow the us like a great britain did i think after the withdrawal of french troops of russian troops and the british troops in germany there is no logical reason why 37000 u.s. soldiers are on german soil can you understand why people in britain
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want to leave the european union if. not only do they know the germany is filled with tens of thousands of soldiers from the united states the european union does things like recognize u.s. backed presidents in venezuela congealing because the why the people of britain want to leave this european union i mean of course there is criticize critics. about the european union the treaty of the european union the lisbon treaty and the policy it's very. unsocial it's a military state and it's near liberal policies but i think the decision on bret's it is a decision of the british people and i am really. preferring to stay back to advise or to say to british people what they should do or what they don't see jeremy corbin the leader of western europe's largest socialist movement half
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a 1000000 members in britain. he's the favorite to win the next to become the next prime minister d. link has been wiped out in germany why are the policies of delinquent not popular here but certainly the policies are shared with corbin many of them where the policy is doing better maybe in britain well i mean i would be very glad if i recall them would be the next prime minister in great britain but we will all see when you see all the opinion polls in germany the positions of the party the link is very popular you know we are against military interventions brought against us nuclear war in germany we want that the us take them back for example we are against.
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policies of the mouth of government for example and so we do have a lot of common with the majority of the people in germany even for taxing the billionaires and the millionaires and but the problem is not only to have you know these popular positions so we have to get voted at the elections and this is a different question. do you think the media is channeling in the media or in germany is channeling opposition to the c.d.u. straight to the f.t. is that what's going on because it's the far right that is winning here while the far right is winning in some areas of the european union it's not just in germany you can see why the european parliament elections so that's not new and it's not
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only india really badly sacks of the brandenburg yeah i agree i know when we do have we do have reasons for that so we are still in discussions within the link about this and to have a strategy to form a strategy how should we get the voters back we lost and how we can get more voters in my point of view the left in the past especially in the past 10 years they did a lot of identity policy but not the policy for the majority of the people. class politics exactly. we have a lack of that we began by talking about it iran german weapon parts are exported to saudi arabia of course trump says iran situation is about the attack in saudi arabia iran denies it. well they have no to that moment there is no proof that iran did attack the drone attack on the all fields in saudi arabia
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ok but there is proof that german weapons have been used on yemen as part of the saudi coalition. as someone who is the left disarmament deputy chair what is going on because britain has now been banned at least until an appeal goes through from exporting weapons to saudi arabia we do have a german stop arms exports to save the arabia but unfortunately not. the arms exports stop to saudi arabia with the common arms with a great britain and france for example they unified has all the tornadoes we have to stop them as well of course because the saudis they are still bombing and making massacre us on the civil society are on yemen and i think it's
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a contradiction to the to the foreign policy german government always always is calling they say we have a foreign policy on the. on moral. values but i think it's it's not of value to say weapons to saudi arabia and they use it against the society in yemen well we invite the saudi arabian ambassador to london on the show to respond to that story in douglas thank you. while in berlin we also caught up with berlin based musician and artist mark foley have supported suede played with david bowie's final lead guitarist gerry limited and i started by asking him about his new single divided cities well it's it's quite a simple song about bricks it's. you know it's not all the k. . borders and everything beginning would be basically keep it simple for myself
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together with the berlin bit cities everyone knows this was famously divided what's it like living here in moving from england it's it's a great place to be an artist because it's very very affordable compared to london or most capital cities do you think it is divided still this is a good question i mean i guess everyone is divided in about 20 different ways these days so where is the brics context in the i mean the song divided city is about divisions politically and divisions geographically hence the berlin wall and obviously how people are very kind of. divided ideologically you know to one side of the other side berliners of obviously got used to the divided if he's history do you think because you're from outside you can still notice that cohen takes much more in a much more alive way than maybe someone who was born here just after the war came to berlin ziva quite it's even really liberal of your opposite it goes from one extreme to the other bill and which makes it quite inspiring because it's lived
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through well there is that other the rise of the far right yeah ok where you are supported swayed here in london very here in berlin and you're going to be boarding them again i believe so yeah every time they play berlin i've supported them over the last few tours so that's like 3 tours that they've played oh they've asked me to support the singer the singer brought under 7 so it's very nice what do you like there were brother he's a really good yeah. yeah just a super nice guy and inspiring guy as well and again quite international he also escaped from a small town so there's lots of parallels i think you know and similar themes similar influences i guess so i mean stuff like bowie and all these kind of bands from that era kind of sing about being outsiders you know so i think it's the same thing growing up at school and getting bullied and stuff and then you kind of find your own identity by moving away and became ingin alien somewhere else you know so
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i think feel more at home here as an outsider in a strange way than i do in living in england you know even if it's not so great things about england microbes meals about in england for example of about my quick meals here are a disaster and no one believes in ghosts and believe so that's a very. grave meals are better in britain so when you touring back in england i guess that depends on bricks it really so if you don't want me back then it's probably a good idea to like you know forget that idea about bricks. funny how they're speaking to us a ruptly studios in berlin is single divided cities is out now that's over the show will be back on wednesday one year to the day of the brutal assassination of the washington post jamal khashoggi allegedly by saudi agents assisted by israeli spy where until then people talk about social media don't forget to subscribe to our you tube channel.
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peter if you want to change something why don't we get rid of the bow tie no that is too much. in 2040 you know bloody revolution to claim the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be increasingly violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it still or hiccup what if i mean your list book that you would put him in the new bill is that i mean you explain you know to the former ukrainian president recalls the events of 2014. those who took place invested over $5000000000.00 to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic place .
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hope through mutual friends and on across the world there's a trend right now to his feet and was spot on we have sugar free protein ice cream the dinner screening that's like time is free and so. it's to have fewer calories than an apple. gets that would be unusual since ice cream is usually seen as a high calorie products believe made at low calorie and tasty. by doing this not one of our advantages on the international market is our wide area of flavors for example in azerbaijan consumers chose the sweet and rich milky ice creams china has a taste of the nice cream on a cool campaign promise when spring should be something there's something for every time.
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it's come to light the u.s. intelligence community quietly dropped its rule that whistleblowers must possess 1st hand knowledge currently paving the way for the trump ukraine revelations which have triggered an impeachment inquiry. a national day of mourning in france as world leaders gather for the funeral of former president jacques chirac who died last week at age 86. and america's anti-defamation league recognizes the ok hand juster as a hate symbol after its widespread adoption by white supremacists problem is obvious that the symbol has become an actual code to say hey we're.

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