a legitimately elected president of the united states by extremely dubious means as we speak marcus your thoughts well 1st of all we must be clear that the american and british establishment a comprised of conservatives and liberals and they are as the coasts if as each other and they are as dangerous to international peace and stability as each other and it is abundantly clear that the liberal elements in america and the little elements in britain is refusing to accept the will of the people in america that we have a democratically elected president mr trump one that seafarers and 16 presidential election fairly and squarely yet the liberal elements in the american establishment is doing everything within its powers to try and bring him down if we cross over that's a britain the liberal elements in the british establishment is doing everything

that it possibly can to try and the rail dresses and now to try and bring down or stunts and that is a terrible terrible fret to democracy in both america and britain but there's another coins and we have to also recognize that donald trump and boyce johnson are parts of the american and british establishment yet they aspect really don't trump in his election campaign 3 years ago pledge that he wanted to drain the swamp well excuse me how long was the trump's women in that swamp fought in the gossip boys johnson over stumps and is really no difference here acting no differently to how his predecessors acted and in regards to joe biden and his alleged involvement business in both in ukraine peta i can quite easily believe that joe biden abused his position walk a lot i certainly i certainly hope we'll find that out because there's

a lot of resistance to that ok because he is the. base of the quote unquote stablish mint that wants to take on trump who is also part of the establishment here it's about maintaining the status quo robert this is what they're afraid of they're afraid of losing power it's not about principles it's not in their mind it's not about ideology dimitri bobbish would disagree with that and we'll hear from him in a 2nd but it's about maintaining power they preach democracy but they don't practice it and they're afraid of one thing i think you have to remember is the context here though. what's happening in washington d.c. right now is the. donald trump appointed bar marcus says that they're not trying to drain the swamp i would disagree to a point that hasn't happened yet it might not happen he might be right but in may 'd of 2019 trump appointed bill barr and john durham to essentially drain the

swamp ok they're going after hillary clinton they're going after the top guns in the democratic heart of what we hope for here i know you appearing about we keep hearing about it and it's the news is out there actually it's not out there you never read about it in the mainstream media and i think a lot of americans would be surprised to know that the democrats are actually under investigation there's a huge and now it's interesting if you had google if you google that bill barr would you come up with he's implicated in this whistle blowing 'd scandal ok but don't you think robert and i don't want to go directly into the ukraine great so quickly but since we're there don't you think this call for an impeachment is a distraction from the i.g. report and the origins of russia gate because i think it is i think there's a huge it's. great here the the the crown prince of western liberal ideology as a critic. well the point is there mr biden is rightly accused of corruption

because what happened was that he did not just fire the prosecutor the way he. you know he he demanded he didn't fire him he didn't fire how did it happen he sat in the president's chair. then he addressed the ukrainian parliament saying in 6 hours my plane is leaving in 6 hours i want this guy out you know and the parliament and the government you know almost a week to shorten simply because by then wanted that whether mr shorten was corrupt or not it's a big question you know again short and was appointed by this new government which came to power a violent cool you know with the support of the united states and the european union and this new government under leashed and civil war and what makes me specially angry is what are the democrats angry about truong didn't sound on time with the weapons you know the sniper rifles that anti-tank missiles well it didn't

like going to be very clear during the the in this conversation this famous conversation right now the president of ukraine did not know that trumpet had 2nd thoughts about since for example the money for army as it is to thank drum for seemed in the weapons so it was not so important for selenski where the weapons arrived on time it was in july you know so the democrats are strong over not saying these weapons for 2 months well what are these weapons these weapons were supposed to be used to kill people who went to the same school who watched the same television who lived in the same country for at least 203040 years of their lives and the democrats are just you know infuse that vote that i was extremely disappointed by the road dreher who wrote in the american conservative that these mine eat was actually supposed to help ukrainians protect themselves no

this money in these weapons were supported well to cry i think i think ron should stick to conservative ideology because that's his good suit not for me. doesn't know if there is or you don't know whether i would love to go back to markets i mean that's a it's an obvious point here and watching reading western media about what's going on in ukraine that it's just. they're blind or deaf because of both they don't know what to say i mean it's really a tragedy but i want to go i want to go back to this anti. democratic. strain that we see in these elites here because it seems to me in the case of breaks it and in the case of the attempted impeachment of donald trump they are destroying democratic institutions because they're not going to be worth very much if they are so abused for the only aim is to gain power and to gain power by means that are not democratic and short circuiting democratic norms your thoughts

marcus. well look as i said moments ago don't donald trump one that the 2016 presidential election fairly and squarely that is democracy people in britain in jamesy fast in the 16 votes it's a leave the that is not democracy by its classical definition but nonetheless that's was the will of the power and therefore the conservatives and the liberals who constitute the american and british establishment should respect the will of the american people and all the british people but then pizza since when has the american establishment and the british establishments been truly a bacon of democracy and they haven't and they are not go in so they are as bad as each other well you know if we're talking about joe biden and ukraine and i don't like half of the subjects of europeans if you are able to get sheldon adelson on

the cross oh and by using your penetrates and analysis penetrating question and you could be able to get details out of him about how donald trump i suspect strongly suspect is abusing his presidential position to secure more business contracts for himself in saudi arabia and israel i doubt i would find that very easy to believe in such what's legal and in marketing and marcus markets i'm not going to disagree with you if if it can be proven that the president of the united states is abusing his power show me the evidence and make it public and move forward here but robert did but this is not what's happening here because i think it's pretty easy obvious to say that biden was up to something ok i don't want to be libeled or sued radios not get something in ukraine here but the mainstream media doesn't really want to they don't focus in on it now me some think biden apparently did something in ukraine but it's donald trump's fault that's my mess. it just makes me think the

this this one i 1st heard about i thought to myself this is a perfect way to get the media to talk about what joe biden and his son hunter he's already doing that he's the user that loser in all of this because they will scratch a little bit because now they have to talk about it and if they go to impeachment this makes this makes the democrats look doubly desperate to go to this thing if you think because. i mean to take it to this level where they're going to have to show and prove all these things about hunter what how he got his money not only from ukraine but from china we're talking billions of dollars reportedly one point of the 1000000000 judy have been 40 seconds go well just let me cite double standards here even me as we find out from the washington post senators what menendez yes richard durbin wrote a letter to the prosecutor general you're able to go expression concern at the quote was you know for investigations that's that they said were critical to the

mueller probe so they can pressure the ukrainian prosecutor general not to show that it's very sensitive as a democrat that the crowds can demand investigations but republicans can't ok that's why the media won't back up and so i say ideology is important here because the crocs you know the central liberal ideology these are the democrats in that case all night we're going to we're going to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion and some real news today. you know world big part of the market and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than

ever we need. to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door. and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the troops the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. gandhian by north sami people because they copy him he's so good that even such a bad puppy is sending. i'm not guilty doug kmiec would be a good guy on the field to find the next guy. who looked up live on canyoning being done the unfelt something good god she even done plenty of.

that to put some of the c.e.o. saying to the depiction of what is happening and say that. that is a god given that i got up from many observers. that he and others are going to going to hear a lot about the. plan that he can bank on you probably get nothing like a. long long while and you don't want to bottom there's a bonus which i live on principle cannot all. handle one new person and lead to any move 190 the new normal going to run the place. to go to you then go to mark you then they will join you. what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line. they did accept it or

reject it. so when you want to be president if you. wanted us. to go right for us this is what. 3 of them or be that. interested in the war. welcome back to crossfire where all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok let's go back to london to change gears here i want to talk about russia's foreign minister sergey lavrov the address the general assembly of the united nations in new york and i really like to speech because he didn't mince his words if you know if you'll give me a 2nd here i'll give you 2 quotes that i liked of the most quote it's hard for the

west to accept that it's centuries long domination is diminishing another sentence here the west has been increasingly forgetting about international law and more often dwell on what rules based order whatever that means ok marcus what's your major take away from that because it really was a salvo across the west bio about how the world is being run and or not being run very well go ahead marcus in london. so roth is a magnificent diplomat and he delivers a magnificent speech and in my estimation he is russia's greatest amat after our own joy and he is absolutely correct that the west's power is waning it is diminishing but we must not get carried away by american global dominance or for medical very real military strength its cultural strengths its political strength its economic strength we must recognize that america is

a superpower and american global your west. is going to remain indefinitely but things are different compared to how it was in the 99 seats in the 99 sees america supreme russia was on its knees china was still progressing but today we have a very strong russia and a very strong china i don't necessarily believe that there is going to the world of eloquence of multipolar about i always believe that the wells will be comprised of the 2 superpowers russia and america i don't attach much importance to the other great countries later i mean i think a very strong case can be made basically a topic for another program that i see are a bipolar world it will be a chinese han world it will be a competing west ok what the west will be made of but it comprises of is a different topic altogether and very very complicated but robert there really

there isn't a recognition within the american foreign policy blob that multilateralism it is coming into being i mean and i think this. in this case this explains a lot of the aggression coming out of washington in its western allies where i'm thinking about iran i'm thinking of i'm in because then. window the unit polar moment it might even be already close to ok we're in something different is coming about and that that accounts explains why all of this aggression because that moment to be able to do things so unilaterally is coming to an end and a lot of people more and more people are just ignoring the u.s. because the u.s. is isolating itself what do you think. well i don't think it's going to be possible to completely ignore the united states although i'm not saying that in a multilateral world that's still there and what we what we have going on now is

that you see the united states military is just all over the place i mean if you look at a map where the flags of the u.s. military are it it's just red everywhere ok except. they're around and. this is this is where this whole idea of you know pull the world and the multipolar world are clashing what's going to happen when when russia and china or also for middle enough to send fleets so latin america to have their bases there in latin america to start you know what the united states the u.s. navy's doing right now in china there are just the armada there is just amazing they've got the whole china china sea covered with all the islands. for now what's going to happen it's going to happen now how is the united states going to respond to this so this this is a very dangerous moment right now in world history because the united states is there's a are there power is waning i don't know if you could say waning but it's being balanced it's being balanced i mean if you have what's going to happen once once

the turn really face russia and china on their own territory back you are likely to russia have a diff slightly different game here i mean russia and china are purely defensive right now they're not exporting ideology they're not exporting their model they're none of those things they want to survive as the old as the world order evolves and it's going to be very. unstable it could be in a reckless and i'm thinking of brussels and washington as they see their power slipping through their fingers you know what's worse about this is that the american exceptionalism see it reminds me of what. during the after the 2nd world war in eastern europe and said that the gay. means of socialism cannot be lost ok because that is what history has in one direction ok the burden is going to end so i feel that this is the same kind of mindset that you have with

washington is that the the order that they created is the order that was ordained by american exceptionalism and the bolton the line ok that isn't true and that's what makes it very dangerous if you look at that it there and i go with your proclaimed the nations that carried it exceptional the nonces did it for biological reasons like we are germans were born to the record images and did it for ideological reasons the russian people is the 1st to establish government of it's the greatest nation on the earth i remember that and and what happens now is that lover of actually it's not you he said roughly the same things minute ago at the un and he was even more spoken at the un i think 2 years ago when you said that we should law i would outlaw that i do or would go over to change and here i slightly disagree regime change is a tool it's an instrument into an instrument for achieving their goals there's

a little chump about it because there's a regime change you can't that be losing their balls are terrible because they look nice on the surface just like. goals also look nice on the surface because you know the socialist ideals of the 19th century were absolutely great you know they were really humane but the way you study and treated them was terrible the same story without a deeper ideas no equality of sex protection of minorities this is all nice but when david cameron for example suggested that we don't send economic aid to african countries we do not recognize same sex marriage this is cruelty you know this is a good idea turned on it's on it's had basically you know protected in my experience so it's not it's not it's not about that it's about hegemony battle that it's about all this sort of our insecurities even someone so you know it's not about us. it's about power it's. very quickly and and here you know and the story of gratitude when again you can disagree with or you can agree with

a person on faux news who said that she was sick and people who sent her there were basically using it for their means to seek child you can disagree with that person and you can agree but it was spotted he could announce that he won't be allowed to speak on television you know that they won't invite him anymore and that was terrible because people should be able to express any thoughts that they. really regulating as a topic of a very specific program going to be one thing going ok this is going off for a bit but i think when we really see an ideological. face down he's going to be at the next olympics is my prediction ok american transgender woman is going to go compete against russian guy ok or man get bit confusing and the americans going to win or the russian will win whatever you from your side i love to be there this is what your question and this is another part of the idea

of ideological war that we really need to talk about and think about this whole idea of. i mean for example transgender this is something that is just unheard of in this part of the world. so and it's and now the west is is they're going to start to training russia is being cruel they don't accept these people and especially little happens in the olympics they said i mean this was just this is just one side of the hard to see what might work remember remember he was too wide but then he didn't know all the different ethnic groups that right just very quickly in 05 seconds look how many derogatory terms they have invented homo force me so genius. that reminds me of cornerstone not just for who every opponent was at right is deviation you just left his deviation iest boo our individual just put you on nationalists they can talk. they conclave a normal discussion they must in some way to before they know it they're on to it and they can do that they do mean you and then you're not worth going to is going

to go back to the market went to a different direction that i didn't expect there i want to go back to lover of speech what i think is interesting is that a lot of smart people people not in the mainstream picked up on his speech and which is absolutely right he's spoken about this before but it doesn't get any traction whatsoever with the elites does it it's almost as if they didn't even happen but if you really want to understand how the international order is changing love ralph is one you should listen to i bet go ahead marcus. well the american elites and the british elites of course is not going to agree with what it's like or that are set up but in private they are very alarmed by the growing power influence and confidence of both russia and china and that is why they are taking action that the moments to try and weaken to both moscow and beijing but on the other hand the americans and the british still remain confident piece if we go

back to 2007 most of latin america had a let's it democratically elected left wing it governments which want is the distance that country some america now look what happens the americans struck back most of latin america is again crow american today ukraine is and this pains me to say is in america's orbit and as each day as each week as each month as each year goes past ukraine the birthplace of russia is integrated more and more in the west why do i say that because my argument is this american global power that western global dominance has of i need is a mythical were it is so it's strong that it is frightening and yes we have russia that is immensely peoples and yes china which is soon celebrating 70 years of

communism and has achieved extraordinary accomplishments it's strong but we must never underestimate what america is capable of doing a lot. but they are looking to strike back at you know i am sure we live in very dangerous times absolutely i mean given the math 15 seconds here guy agree with marcus that this ball is for me the ball but it is also blind and to pit and the story between joe biden and trump has shown that you know they want that they sprint out they'd want it and it was a can a warmth but it is. it was that kind of ukrainian warps they saw is basically leaking up to trump i mean i don't know i know to run to show exactly and you know i'm not on the trail so it's also you have to judge trump that's how we end the program here that's all the time we have many thanks and i guess he remarks and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. see you next time and remember.

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