just nation so that at consumer understand what type of candy it is and what's inside. it's come to light the u.s. intelligence community quietly drop its rule that whistleblowers must possess 1st hand knowledge paving the way for the trump ukraine revelations which have triggered an impeachment inquiry. also this hour a national day of mourning in france as world leaders gather for the funeral of former president jacques chirac who died last week aged 86. and america's anti-defamation league recognizes the ok can just as a symbol after its widespread adoption by white supremacists. problem is the symbol has become an actual code to say hey we are part of this group you are not.

there to drink water. so. eating food is received. a very warm welcome to the program from all of us here at r.t. in moscow thanks for joining us this hour. donald trump is demanding to meet the anonymous official who blew the whistle on phone calls with his ukrainian counterpart the scandal surrounding the conversations led to the launch of an impeachment inquiry last week or possible collusion with a foreign power u.s. president claims the whistleblowers account of what was said was totally and accurate meanwhile reports have emerged pointing out that the u.s. intelligence community quietly changed the official whistleblower complaint form at around the time the ukraine call scandal broke the old version required a whistleblower to have 1st hand intelligence but the new format made in another

tick box option available meaning relate information that would be considered as well now the timing of the change is noteworthy the latest version of the document says it was revised in august that's the same month and which the scandal triggering complaint was filed in parent quint students has led to questions being raised it's not clear to me when the people who are behind all this realized oh my goodness this is not going to play well this will not go through the inspector general process because it's all hearsay is certain here information it's funny to me at least here on the u.s. that the news outlets just immediately identified this person as it was slower but if you are a whistleblower blowing the whistle on waste fraud abuse and illegality in the intelligence services you're not a whistleblower you're a leaker and so i think that's really where the transformation is. artie's

mudguards you have looked at the sudden change of standards and it's possible ramifications. most of us we revere whistleblowers the men and woman who put their careers their very lives on the line at a principle they don't look the other way they speak up when they see corruption abuse and then justice and you know why we revere them so we trust them they were witnesses people on the inside they saw with their own eyes a whistleblower any individual who provides the right information to the right people that's now changed you no longer need to be a witness to be a whistleblower no longer need to have documents or evidence all you need is to have heard someone talk about wrongdoing that's all as a matter if it was false or made up just far litton hey presto you're

a whistle blower like the individual who spawned the trump ukraine scandal the background of this of course is the whistleblower the filing report and state in the 1st sentence i don't know this firsthand you know this 1st told to me but i learned this from saying there are multiple shots so i didn't have any 1st and evidence let me in our legal system here shit it never stands up in court he was told the trump said something questionable by anonymous officials all of them wrong it seems at least some of it was already proved false the president pressured mr selenski with a specific request that the ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the democratic national committee and examined by the u.s. cyber security firm crowd strike. i would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and ukraine knows a lot about it i would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation

with ukraine they say crowd strike the server they say ukraine has. that whatever you can do it's very important that you do it if that's possible the president also praised ukraine's prosecutor general. and suggested that mr the lansky might want to keep him in his position. i heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair a lot of people are talking about that the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved they these in gentleman we have front row seats as we watch the noble human all noble title of whistleblower sally my deed by partisan politics in the accuracy and bias over the intelligence community inspector general's preliminary review identified some indicia of an arguable political bias on the part of the complete in favor of a rival political candidate such evidence did not change my determination that the

complaint relating to the urgent concern appears credible but today do. you know american chargen we say did it change the goalposts they changed the rules how could these people possibly see that we get away with this whistleblowers now essentially a 5050 anonymous source you get on c.n.n. for example fun to listen to but as practice shows as taken with a dose of salt source tells n.b.c. news law enforcement and democratic sources telling c.n.n. that in a fired sources anonymous sources according to anonymous washington post source you're basing all these allegations of one or maybe 2 sources which c.n.n. is this is not receiving reports it's washington post new york times wall street journal c.n.n. a.b.c. elihu resources all because they're hiding behind us and a commonality we're seeing you know you don't want me to you're just going to attack sources this whistleblower

a poor it was but now for the democrats finally a chance to bring down trump. but now that it's showing cracks liberals are sprinting the plus the move or this whistle blower they claim can should and will be trusted you know why because he's one of them if we think of the whistleblower as a reporter the whistleblower talked to a lot of people who had firsthand knowledge or post strange into this reporters a free free to be as politically biased as they want twist news to their political agenda and then call it truth all of us who have been involved in national security and have reported are on waste fraud abuse and illegality have been whistleblowers but because this whistleblower in particular fits the mainstream media's narrative of donald trump committing crimes he was automatically

called it whistle blower he was automatically assumed to have the national interest at heart and i'm not not really sure that that's the case the think it will but crucified snowden and manning for exposing global surveillance on all of us and war crimes that we'd never have known about but here you have a biased complaint riddled with anacharis he's submitted by an individual who saw nothing but passed on what he was told the clear political spin to it and he's applauded cheered and praised. these injured woman what is the newborn the mob with all blow up guys i think this is effectively making the whistle procedure in america into effectively a sneak snitches charter where we have a situation where someone can just report some gossip and it will be taken at face

value as bonafide whistle blowing i think this is highly dangerous in how whistleblowers are going to be perceived so rather than people coming forward and saying i have an eyewitness account i personally experience this wrongdoing this crime it needs to be investigated up to and including congressional hearings on both sudden we're going to have rumor and gossip gossip says into the political process and it's going to poison that political process. dozens of world leaders have arrived in paris for the funeral of a structure rock the former french president who died last week served as the country's head of state for 12 years our correspondent charlotte to report from paris. well a national day of mourning has been declared in france here to remember all the the former president jacques chirac who died last week at the age of 86 the funeral service took place behind me at the church of saul suit piece where world leaders including president putin of russia came to pay their final respects to

a man whose political career spanned some 40 years going from being elected as an m.p. in the national assembly all the way to being mare of paris to being prime minister a 2nd time twice to of course being france's president a presidency he held for 2 terms darting back in 1995 he was considered to be a political comedian so who stuck to his guns and perhaps is best known internationally for the fight back in 2003 he refused to let part of france participate in the iraq invasion that was led by the us in the u.k. famously of course going to the u.n. security council all queuing white. that invasion shouldn't take place let's have a look back now at some of the highlights of his political career. the military operations have just started in iraq friends regresses action taken without the approval of the united nations. houses burning down and we blind to it

nature mutilated and overexploited can no longer regenerate and we refuse to admit it or they won't rebuild it barack obama and i go back to that god said let the let them go these dark hours for the solo history and they are an insult to our past and now traditions. the funeral took place with a full military onus on some of those who pay their tributes last week when we heard the news egyptian rocket died came here today including president putin of russia he described him as being a man who was wise and far sighted a man who was a great friend to russia we know that the 2 had a fantastic personal relationship in fact shot chirac when he was at the nato summit in latvia back in 2006 on the sidelines of that summit invited president putin to come and spend his 70 full birthday with him and even he would it president putin one of france's highest honors to foreigners this is the growing

classically. so a sense of 2 men who really respected each other in fact president putin once said that she was probably one of the best leaders that he knew of one of the ones that he most respected we also heard tributes from other world leaders over the last few days including anger merkel he said that he was a great partner when it came to germany and also herself and we heard from president marc cohn who said he was a great frenchman a man who embodied what it really was to be french we were also speaking to some of the crowds of people who came to see this funeral to pay their final respects and they did. told us that jacques chirac was a great leader and that it was important to come and say one final goodbye. if he was a true frenchman there you go what i loved about human after a genuine girl it was structured out for me for friends. gave me

a place he was one of the best presidents that's what i think he did many things for france including many things that people don't know about in the social sphere and things like that so i was just. that was his character that was his character but all the same not everyone liked him so many in my family were fond of him it's nice to know that. he was we heard during the service head of his time a man who was fiercely proud to be french thousands of people have paid all major respect as jacques chirac now makes his final journey to his resting place in more playoffs here in paris. the ok hand gesture has been recognized as a hate symbol alongside the swastika america's anti-defamation league based his decision on the science adoption by white supremacists even as extremists continue to use symbols that maybe years or decades old they regularly create new symbols

memes and slogans to express their hateful sentiments we believe law enforcement and the public needs to be fully informed about the meaning of these images which can serve as a 1st a warning sign to the presence of haters in the community or school. the ok symbols white power meaning was initially part of an online prank but apparently white supremacists liked what they saw and started using it that way in earnest among them the christ church terrorist during a court appearance the a.d.l. says cases like that warrant its inclusion on the list of hate symbols adding though that context is always important last year a former white house staffer was accused of making the white power sign but her defenders pointed out she's a mexican american and a descendant of holocaust survivors who put the issue up for debate. i think it's pretty ridiculous to label a thing like oh bull or the ok symbol as a symbol of white supremacy i feel like races do do certain things but i mean at

a certain point they do everything nor people do mean races have to eat food they have to drink water they have to breathe air so at what point do we label eating food as racist drinking water as received in breathing air is received it's just really can of started his particular point sounds a little some of these things that have been in his ear things were a very long time with or a soused hateful subversive groups the problem is that the symbol has become an actual code to say hey we are part of this group you are not and you know the main point of it is. for well it's a far it's far right movement supporting you know again a far right ideologies that are very well known in this country to be you know fluorescent but my point is you know is vast again for instance and it was an indian sacred religious symbol 50500 years b.c. and you know. people in germany it's ok to put it on

a red flag and now it was there a symbol it was an invert the swastika and that became the symbol of nazism and ok but the ok sign is nat day all right ok so you can find it right now on your phone via. device i phone you can find it ok so right now when you search for the new moji there is the equivalent to ok ok it is being used ok for very loans and it wasn't a couple years ago where it was some kind of troll thing happening on the internet that it became some nose because the mainstream media picked it up and i think the whole purpose of trolling campaign was to trick the mainstream media into doing it and of course now we hear that the a.b.l. is looking for here is not to label every single thing that we do say or or. or you know we communicate what they are to specifically doing is trying to inform you know people that there are certain symbols that seem innocuous but that are

currently being used. as actually inside to violence and crime and you know fundamentalists political ideas that put this democracy in jeopardy but we're talking about a symbol that started it as something that was not necessarily what it is today the problem is that somewhere along the line that symbol that's cited as it trolling can ban as a bait became an actual you know sino with a longing for though it. it's not it's really not what somebody told me how do you know it hasn't. is not some kind of hate symbol like i see it the blood game uses day i'm sure to have been plenty of actual killings they happen every single day and have been going on for a very loans ounces in 1970 s. when they came out because some reason that's not been seen as a symbol you can have it right now in your phone as an emoji for the ok symbol in smartphones and all of it have come around long after the street gangs have

originated so i've usually we did think about this thing that existed in a certain context in new form of a symbol in general which is labeled as a symbol but now a lot was saying because you need to let me hold because of the trolley campaign now we want to say is a symbol is ridiculous it is not a symbol it is the n.s.a. thing if people want to use it for whatever you want to use it for ok but to compare it to nazi flag is absurd ok millions do. you like. versus the ok so i think i was not a hate symbol until it was. an indian use a. whole can ensure that although it's not the several canadian cinemas have canceled the screening of a film about a highly controversial psychologist the filmmakers behind the documentary give their take after the break.

the world is driven by shaped by one person with those great. thinks. we dare to ask. you know world a big part of the law and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that made stream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smart we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past

each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. welcome back a controversial canadian psychologist who's known for his strong views against political correctness has been making headlines on top of screenings of a documentary about him were pulled from several. but you said your peers i mean one of the people that mr peterson the canadian psychology professor is somebody people love the war love to hate so you're. still are you a batman villain i watched the professor as political correctness video and i was just so disappointed. jordan peterson is

a clinical psychologist and university professor has risen to fame in recent years the public interest and debate over his ideas peterson challenges political correctness with his views on masculinity and feminism as well as gender ethnicity and identity politics. could be a man born in a woman's body and that's biological but if you're a woman born in a woman's body that socially constructed like really that supposed to be an argument do you think a trans woman is a woman no you overwhelming proportion of people who are in prisons are male now do you want to equalize about just out of curiosity what about bricklayers there are 99 percent male and and when men work longer hours they work more dangerous jobs they're more likely to move peterson has his fans he also talks plenty of criticism earlier this year at cambridge university canceled an invitation for him to speak there are other concerns his views violated their quote inclusive environment and

in new zealand his book was pulled from the shelves after a shooting at a mosque in christ church artie's maria for national has been speaking to the filmmakers behind the documentary. you movie as far as i understand is about jordan peterson and the journey to where he's now and through he's ideas what is about it that it's a wrong to see it or scrapping earlier great plans to show it. well they had agreed to a week long run of the film but there were some staff complaints and that put them in a difficult position so they decided to cancel those plans and of course you know there are some things that people really disagree with in terms of ledger in peterson has said sell people disagree with the idea of giving him a platform although making a film about him i don't think it's the same thing and they were all sorts of reasons we were getting in the instance of the cancellation of the staff complaints as far as we know they hadn't seen the film the people that had agreed to show the film initially they had seen it it really is

a shame that that happens our film is and isn't like a complete celebration of everything about jordan i mean there are parts of the argument that are critical it's not a fluff piece and there are the voices of the people that have disagreed with him in public that are in the film so we also hold space for those voices in the film so you have all of the people that are talking about him and it's this kind of like a left and right culture or you know you have people on the right that kind of see him as on the side but also see him as kind of like a political tool to kind of a problem there are their agendas and then you have people on the left like and t.v. and activists of that nature and they they think he's the devil and they want to bring him down and they want to destroy its reputation what people usually do is that they listen to the journalists that they're used to and those journalists usually only read other journals that think just like them so it is weird little in

this specific context that it's a liberal bubble where they've kept they tell each other the same stories and it gets they gets compounded in compounded when it gets pretty different from reality as far as i understand jordan peterson himself was not too much into ferreting to your words very open and he respected the process he you know was never really you know trying to. interfere with that you know anyway what was that story that these journalists that you mentioned kept saying like presenting during peterson as someone dangerous to some playing well you know their ideas that he's. leading the all right or you know motivating in cells or that he is really dangerous ideas that he's the custodian of the peach here he is the new york times article that stated so it closes people's minds to a nuanced film about him which is what our film is and it's

a film that is as much as mentioned is for friends but also for people who are really something in it for everyone to really paint a complex picture of what we witnessed throughout these 3 years we approached the carlton cinema in toronto about its decision to cancel the screening or bring any response we get. oscars former chancellor sebastian curse looks poised to secure power again his conservative austrian people's party came 1st in sunday's election with 38 percent of the vote will still need the help though of other parties. it's incredible it's an amazing day it's if you story yourselves fall apart too and then to go try to. talk 3 fold the other properties in the palm and try to form a government to the it's for the people a false feel thank you. for the last 4 months the country has been ruled by a caretaker government

a donation scandal brought down curses coalition and may his coalition partner it was filmed allegedly promising political influence for funds political scientists marcel jenny believes though has gained more support after the case has options for a coalition it will be limited. to the most touched by the contents in the video so that the most and we shouldn't the successful. and when i mean the government was ousted he. was too who've framed the issue is this could speak. to people has several options. open to the conditions for if not sure to support them program and. the potential impact right now is very key join it's not an easy situation. that's

a news break down for this hour and that's all for me as well today but we're not neil harvey will be taking over in about 30 minutes thanks for tuning in to our but you may be. one of them for a follow on that comes out of the cold war you are the set of one of mark one of them. a product or maybe. not. i. thought this month.

someone would do the book. hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered. from calls for trump's impeachment to the saga known as briggs and political elites appear to be terrified of democracy and the people's will also should we lament the passing of the new liberal order.

cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest robert bridge he is a r t website writer we also have dimitri he is a political analyst and editor at you know a semi internet media project and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he is the editor of politics 1st magazine original uncrossed up rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate as usual go to our guest in london marcus i'm glad you're joining us today look i mentioned in my introduction the impeachment proceedings that are starting against. trump and talking about brags that but there's one theme that kind of ties them together and it is my sense they do these political elites across across the atlantic and in the u.k. they really want the status quo to be maintained they don't want to lose power and they are terrified terrified of the people's will they want to undo a referendum in the u.k. and they want to oust

a legitimately elected president of the united states by extremely dubious means as we speak marcus your thoughts well 1st of all we must be clear that the american and british establishment comprised all conservatives and liberals and they are as the coasts if as each other and they are as dangerous to international peace and stability as each other and it is abundantly clear that the liberal elements in america and the little elements in britain is refusing to accept the will of the people in america that we have a democratically elected president mr trump one that's $3016.00 presidential election fairly and squarely yet the liberal elements in the american establishment is doing everything within its powers to try and bring him down if we crossover

votes of britain the liberal elements in the british establishment is doing.