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6 hours of talks between the presidents of russia and turkey resulted in a new plan for northern syria that will get underway on wednesday. reject boris johnson's brags that deal time table triggering him to hold debates over the withdrawal bill awaits the decision over a deadline. as facebook launches a crusade against foreign interference in the 2020 us election with a new package of counter measures including flagging state run media accounts.
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giving thanks for joining us here on r.t. international. a face to face meeting which stretched for 6 hours between the presidents of russia and turkey in the black sea resort of sochi has resulted in a new plan for syria and both leaders seem optimistic about it. you know to with a new project into practice i hope it will work well for congress and all people as friends of the syrian people and the neighbors will read it to dog best to achieve these instability in the country syria should be free of any only presence the long term stability of syria can only be achieved by observing the so is routine and unity of the country. ok let's go live now to such a correspondent only for trying because been following events any a good evening get to take us through the main details of this new plan.
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neal hi good evening well the bottom line is that russia has now taken up the role of the number one negotiator with turkey when it comes to the settlement of the crisis the crisis that began earlier and october round of the turkish syrian border and the north eastern region of that country where earlier this month ankara launched a massive offensive against the kurdish militias now in a sense moscow took over from washington in that role because it was the american vice president mike pence that convinced type baird to want to quiet the guns for 120 hours so right now vladimir putin and topper don't want to have shaken their hands and the 10 paragraph agreement is there there are many elements to it 1st of all it ensures that all the involved saw its respects
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the territorial integrity of syria but more importantly if we look into it. means that russia agreed to turkey's desired 30 kilometer buffer zone along the border and means that the kurdish militias you now how. i have 150 hours to leave that area which will eventually parts of the zone will later be patrolled by russia's military police and the largest military another important aspect of this is that control over the border with turkey on the syrian side will be returned to the government forces of the bashar assad government now then. it's also very important that if everything goes according to plan the turkish offensive will be put
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on hold for another 150 hours as i've said so clearly a breakthrough after a talks that lasted well longer than originally expected by the turkish president and the russian leader vladimir putin. he took that really about russian involvement and even syrian government's involvement was there any mention at any point a what role if any the u.s. money play. ball it seems that 2 for now they've been sidelined because. the water was here right before the so-called cease far that's the way most people are referring to it expired and that is exactly what i asked the russian minister of defense and the russian foreign minister how do they think of the u.s.
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should react at this point and are have they been sidelined sorry and to that. responded that the only force the only military that is in syria in a legal status is the russian army after an immunity in. ation by the government and damascus so for them the fact that the us forces were there and the 1st place and that's something that the russian size the russian side sees as illegitimate and then certainly sure who the russian minister of defense actually pointed out that he can hardly believe all the commitments and the obligations and the promises that the us made when they brokered this teal with the verdon could be fulfilled here's what he said to me. the united states has very
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little time left to fulfill their obligations very soon the time bar expires which was meant to see moving heavy equipment away to combine units and so on. the fulfillment of this agreement between moscow and craws still a floor any path and the senior russian officials. spoke of some of the difficulties one of the most boring aspects of it was that when the turkish forces moved in and some of the areas were abandoned by the kurdish militias there were prison camps where state terrorists were behind bars and they were able to escape because of this conflict for now their fate is unclear and also in this particular situation both turkey and russia want to make sure that. somehow this situation is dealt with and that the
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remaining camps remain guarded by the forces that will be in place after this there's also the refugee aspect here this was something that the russian ministry a minister of defense brought up these are some of the issues that will see. we'll have to be resolved but once again judging by what we heard today from mr putin mr aird one the level of trust and their friendship the personal relationship that they have developed over the last few years shows that they can deal with pretty much anything that happens in between the 2 countries and clearly russia and turkey are the main players affecting what's going on on the ground in that area at this point bring us all the details of today's presidential meeting in sochi that's our correspondent. thank you. ok now director of the trans
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national foundation for peace and future research good evening again and. the most significant would i think in your title sort a lot of people are hoping to see around this this border buffer zone between turkey and syria do you think the new russia turkey plan will bring that will it bring stability and peace. i'm a friend as a circus somehow elects purnell peace and peace making i'm not very optimistic. let me give you the larger perspective 1st of all we have here 2nd largest military power in nato doing deals with the alleged arch enemy of nato we have a systematic violation of international and all that is not brought up anywhere as seriously not discussed as an international rules such as a transgression of an internationally recognized border into a sovereign state we heard changing on highnesses and by the hour of.
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there is there is now a sense that that he 2 countries can see it. and decide who part of the future of a 3rd country that is not sitting at the table that is syria in this case which is to be governed or treatment of syria over the last 1015 years by the international community and you know if we look at this deal what has been done today in 10 years from now i think people will say well nothing was solved the only thing we do not do is to discuss what are the underlying conflicts here and how do we deal with the underlying conflicts what has been done today in my view is basically simpson symptoms treatment that is better than continuing warfare and mass killings and all these kinds of things but in the long run this tells you very much about how how simple how you could almost say primitive the international community was system still is in terms of peacemaking we can organize huge military battles but we
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cannot organize peace united nations doesn't do anything cannot do anything has been marginalized since the balkan wars by the u.s. and nato. and even the e.u. is keeping silent on this one and the sanctions on iran are on the arab league because it doesn't exist when it comes to these things yet we are back to nations and their male. leaders fixing things and courting to allay our national interests in a changing our lives a game of national interests that is not going to make the world a better place in the long run you talked about the many different moving parts and how things change so quickly what about america's role that washington has given what one and a half hours to fulfill its obligations on syria to think that's the last we'll see of u.s. involvement is that likely to change again well there was an interesting statement a couple of days ago. president trump saying we have secured the oil and i wonder with that he was serious or he was israel's deal with oil or it was turkey or
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whatever i am i'm in a muslim understanding what the americans are doing at the moment but we all know their priorities moving towards china and so on they might see this or that we're getting more or less al get it so far the move troops to iraq nearly to remains to be seen what happens to them from there the interest in syria as a territory gaza normal and has not gone i think. a thing i think she i think we've got to time just to speak a little bit longer. on the line while we are we can what about because this is almost forgotten at times the battle against the terrorists islamic state i mean they are still there whether we're talking about prisoners who've just escaped or ones who had a very did capture how will turkey russia and whoever else is involved. can buy the power to fight the terrorists can they finish this battle once and for all well let me tell you i was in aleppo eastern and western aleppo in december 2016 when
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the war basically changed and the east on a level was liberated now if you understand the destruction of aleppo on and a couple of other things you would know how much turkey has been on the side of aces how much they have helped them how much they have transfer of money and oil all these kinds of things we have a major nato country together with the us being supporters of this organization so i'm not very optimistic about that it may not die out it may see new opportunities here and there and that has to do with a much larger east you since 2001 the united states analyze and been fighting and have to look at the counterproductive global war on terror that the only consequence of which including the war on iraq has been to make the terrorism problem tens of times bigger than it was in 2001 it is probably modern history's most stupid war and i do not see anything in what has happened today that will put
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a lid on that they know how to move elsewhere and they are not a state they are much more flexibility than needs fixed borders and nations and nation building etc in a way isis is thinking in a new way in which old national leaders are either too old or too or pressured to do i'm not i'm not applauding what they do as you obviously understand i'm saying that kind of flexibility having power in a different way is pretty interesting. good to speak to my guests this hour yeah no big director the transactional foundation for peace and future research. thank you . although these are british m.p.'s of once again dealt a blow to boris johnson's hopes of getting his briggs's deal through parliament in just the last hour they rejected the government's timetable to debate and approve the withdrawal bill by the end of the week let's find out what that means now go live to london and artie's edwards daschle could even to the u.k. any closer than to the exit doors tonight doesn't really seem like care our tour in
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fact it seems like the door was firmly shut tight because today we had quite a crunch moment for boris johnson we had 2 votes the 1st one being in principle voting to support boris johnson withdrawal agreement bill that went through with a majority of 30 but the key crucial one was on the program motion that's the one that sets out the timetable over the next 3 days to plough through the legislation to implement bracks and that's the one that boris johnson lost by just a whisker of 14 votes now all day boris johnson was saying if he couldn't get his way with that well he'll pull the whole thing entirely but speaking directly after that defeat he actually softened his stance and said that he in fact would pause it rather than put it so essentially he's putting all of the eyes on back onto the e.u. the pulls back in their courts but earlier today we heard from john clarke yoko who
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said bracks is been entirely waste of time and today with all of this negativity boris johnson still decided to focus on the positives. and. we would paul's this legislation let me let me be clear let me be clear our policy remains that we should launch. we should leave on october 31st. that is what i will say to the e.u. i will report back to the house. so boris johnson's withdrawal agreement went through with a majority of 13 yes it is unprecedented because we have not yet seen any breck's it deal goes through treason may last 3 times even working with a majority in parliament of 10 boris johnson in direct contrast and comparison working with the majority of minus 45 not to mention his not now but the 40100
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percent track record of defeat so today it's a good sign for boris johnson getting his back that deal through right about signs that m.p.'s are not going to support the timetable with it but the reason why they failed to back it is because it was simply not enough time to scrutinise and sift through line by line the withdrawal agreement bill which is a 110 pages long jeremy called and he was one that was particularly angry with this very very tight timeline that the m.p.'s were given and what he's saying in all of this is actually giving boris johnson all is saying to him to agree to a sensible way forward of a reasonable timetable i.e. extension. work with all of us. agree a reasonable timetable. to the boat scrutinised and i hope. the deeds of this will that would be the sensible way
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forward. on behalf of the old position. well remembered johnson's infamous words that he would rather die in a ditch than seek an extension so he might be going back on a few words to see evening forward as for the rest of the next few days we'll see every very tense and introductions and also into jet actions from m.p.'s across the house and this is not exactly ideal because it's just 10 days to go to the 31st deadline which now of course seems to see an extension happening. 100 pages in 3 days hardly digging ditches is it but still and pays refused to do it many thanks with the update there from london. facebook's going to flag state run media accounts on its platform is part of a bid to protect next year's presidential election from possible foreign interference the social networks also planning to combat in authentic behavior and make political ads more transparent what is it has done and has more. it all comes
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from the best of intentions it seems sweep away trolls and other unholy creatures from under the facebook bridge except will team phase will really be able to tell right from wrong in the us we have the benefit of a free press and because of that we think it's especially important to call the media coming from any country around the world is acting as an organ of the government of the free press mark zuckerberg is clearly implying that the free american media on the one hand and government funded propaganda produces on the other what he forgets though is that the us has a whole governmental body with the millions of dollars in its coffers tasked with exactly that funding the major voice of america radio free europe the middle east broadcasting networks are just some of the outlets right there in the pocket of the u.s. agency for global media or as it was formerly and more well known of the. facebook
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intentionally or not doesn't seem too eager to look at them this way and controversy doesn't end there these social network has never shied away from censoring what gets into your feed and what doesn't and it can't really boast sharpshooters track record with this. tell me this have you ever had bush you know the soup if not you should because it's great it's delicious and if yes you might be a victim of russian deception. at least according to facebook it recently banned a page with something 40000 subscribers that was posting recipes of the russian institution and i don't know what's more authentic than a russian posting about how to make beef stroganoff and yet facebook deems itself worthy of calling out in authentic behavior over the last 3 years with worked
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identify new and emerging threats and remove coordinated inauthentic behavior across our apps as part of our effort to counter foreign influence complaints this morning we removed 4 separate networks of accounts pages and groups and facebook and instagram for engaging in coordinating and authentic behavior 3 of them originated in the round and one in russian. so one facebook makes a statement like this we want to help people better understand the sources of news content they see on facebook so they can make informed decisions about what they're reading it seems that the network itself needs some help understanding what's going on on its pages it could be said facebook is not independent either because again facebook arguably is the dream by a particular agenda and when you look at the least of experts did face group called dean in order to help determine the new policy they pretty much made out of
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the use certain groups that are very well known for a very particular point of view mostly. liberal extreme liberal and so on and so forth what the focal seem to be on is whether the organization can demonstrate to facebook independent editorial control that's a very difficult question i think was a very difficult thing to do stuff. for us attorney has called early elections after a setback in its bid to become an e.u. member despite the country apparently meeting the conditions laid down for its mission the entry talks along with 5 other balkan states were blocked by france present said the e.u. needed to reform before expanding that decision was criticised by at the latest the outgoing european commission boss john clarke duncan said it was an historic era skittle explained. power us the city of love unless you're more for us i don't know
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which is just being dumped by president not chrome the balkan countries being dealt a bit of a blow off the e.u. said no twits joining its club and like any wrong love like the e.u. is going to look back with regrets surely a great injustice was inflicted on us in brussels the european union did not deliver on its promise i'm disappointed and angry but what makes this for jackson all the more painful is that northwestern has been gunning to be brought into the fold for a long time and has made several significant sacrifices to that end date at all and it's worth mentioning by the e.u. itself for example just over 10 years ago it officially recognized kosovo off to the last declaration of independence from sabia precisely because it's the position of both nato and the e.u. but perhaps the biggest compromise it made was when it changed its very identity to
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brussels e.u. member state greece has an ancient region called macedonia and was a bit miffed that just across the border another country was using the very same name taking the high road muster don't you decide to lay the historical dispute to bed under grey sheet itself with the e.u. by adding north before it simple but brussels was playing hard to get over all the muck or was off to 7 hours of wrangling behind closed doors the french president vetoed opening talks on the issue the only one of $28.00 members to do so and he used the classic it's not you it's me phrase before we decide to enlarge the e.u. we need to reform ourselves the fallout is potentially significant prime ministers i was calling for a snap election ready but more crucially given its violent i'm troubled part. asked there are now concerns whether this decision will jeopardize peace in the region
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this is not a moment of glory for the e.u. to refuse acknowledgement of proven progress will have negative consequences including the risk of destabilisation of the western balkans with full impact on the e.u. but that like any decent jump to his just not quite ready to close the door on his love interest well maybe sometimes when i introduce mr donald. i would like to send a message. you know the giver. i fully understand your frustration. because she did your show. we haven't so also not lost joining in you is still in the future of north macedonia but while brussels marks on itself maybe the balkan countries should ask the question what anything have to do or be good enough for those bureaucrats in brussels. r.t.
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paris. an urgent question on british children trapped in syria has been raised today in the u.k. parliament. so our international allies are already used the 5 day cease fire to fulfill their duties and repatriate their own children if we do nothing will be abandoning our moral obligations and risking those vulnerable children growing up in a war torn area maybe turning into terrorists themselves does the u.k. take responsibility for british children and what do we can answer that in terms of the principle let me be clear we are doing what we can given the difficult circumstances on the ground of course within the rule of law for vulnerable children in north east syria this is a peace city's rapidly developing rapidly changing and of course we keep all things under review every single day we delay in actually bringing these children home is
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a day extra of trauma that we are going to have to address at great expense in the united kingdom i understand really 3 of the children are all foods out of the 60 who are british pounds so what numbers are we talking about a precisely we don't want just 3 children taken out of the 6 and taken out. of the debate came after u.k. charity demanded the government rescued young children born to i saw fighters of british origin who also was the authorities to make use of the current cease fire in northeast syria between turkey and the kurds we have an opportunity in the next few days urgently to repatriate them to bring them back home these are children in 85 percent of them across these camps are under 12 and. more than nearly half toddlers so they are not they are innocent children they are not responsible for the crimes that their parents have committed and we need to separate that. save the
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children says 60 u.k. children are currently trapped in the region the figure is twice the previously reported many of them are thought to be under 5 years old however the u.k. foreign secretary has said that britain will only help those who are orphans. in relation to minors unaccompanied minors all orphans i can tell you that assuming that they would represent no security threats we would be willing to see them return home if that can be done in a safe way given the situation on the ground. i discussed the issue with the secretary general of the european muslim league and the former head of the u.k. counter-terrorism office. of course as children they are completely innocent and almost certainly they don't at this moment pose any threat i think the difficulty comes with those that are with their parents who have made the deliberate choice to go to these places and are potentially really very dangerous themselves i disagree britain's position. citizenship i think that is totally
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rabbits' the actions written cup dictate not. right. and i think now citizenship should be restored we 100 british system if those parents have committed defense let's put them through as a colt's i do think as was mentioned before we've got some brilliant legal system that's going to protect the public well it just won't do that there is not going to be enough evidence to deal with the with the parents there's not going to be enough evidence because the people that have witnessed atrocities are going to be dead in iraq and syria so let's be honest we're we're going to we're going to know very little about some of these people actually whether they are kids from british parents is another part of this we have to be careful because it's ok same we should bring these people back book actually would you like them living next door to you know you probably wouldn't do and i think we need to make sure that we've
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got the systems in place and the lock up those people for as long as we possibly can that are a danger to us but the children of course should be treated differently and should be given every. chance to to get themselves back into civilized society if one is more complicated maybe one parent is still alive or both parents of the so-called i sold child what do you do do you do you bring these children back and say you deserve a better life or do you just leave them to their fate no you can't really meant it was certain. you know especially in that area because they would be in danger of being radicalized let's bring them home cook them through counseling give them the backup in the care that they need let's be quite clear that if these people do come back the vast majority if not all of them will not go through the court system they will be released into society some of them will be very very dangerous and in fact
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some of these children we're calling them children depending on your a you know what you consider a child their age range but some of them will be very dangerous that this is bringing back problems i do have concerns but i also realize that britain has responsibilities and we cannot our problems on the rest of the world we don't know how secure those holding facilities are and you know we britain must take responsibility and it is not doing that at the moment as real dangers wherever these people end up because they are radicalized most of the youngsters will have been through some kind of radicalization piece they are going to be very dangerous and it's all very well us bringing them back but some of our live next door to them and someone may well end up dying as a result of one of these people coming back. chile continues to be gripped by some
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of the worst arrests seen in 3 decades thousands of people still demonstrating.

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