the troops the international troops including use troops are here for the troops the international troops including use troops out here what it isn't in there were here they have been here for that reason in the past but it isn't in there were here they have been here for that reason in the past 18 years and that's the presence of al qaeda terrorist networks now nears that's the presence of al qaeda terrorist networks now. all sorts of the click on continue is you know he's after the wall of the wall or i think. the sorts. of things he should be see explode but it spread out it in that's what the afghans want in majority of our people want in that's what the afghans want in majority of our people want in was there to species there would be

no need for international troops and in was there to species there would be no need for international troops in the country 2000 of your soldiers this year from the united states what casper defend a country 2000 of your soldiers this year from the united states what casper defense secretary saying there will be fewer and now we have reports from the former pentagon boss madam secretary saying there will be fewer and now we have reports from the former pentagon boss mad dog mattis is former speechwriter governor scott gross trump said seriously who gives a dog mattis is former speechwriter come under scott gross trump said seriously who gives a about afghanistan what do you make of the i'm not here to judge dick about afghanistan what do you make of the i'm not here to judge their conversations which has taken place somewhere else but they can say their conversations which has taken place somewhere else but they can say the. it was in

2001 night. it was in 2000 to run 911 and that 3000 american people were killed in an 11 at that 3000 american people who were killed in a tragedy by al qaeda. unfortunately from tragedy by al qaeda. and professionally from afghanistan supported at that time by the taliban in that's what afghanistan supported at that time by the taliban in that's why the international troops are here in we are fighting a common enemy to get why the international troops are here in we are fighting a common enemy to get it in had it not been for the threat to us step in to had it not been for the threat to us homeland security the troops wouldn't

have been here of course i was speaking homeland security the troops wouldn't have been here of course i was speaking in the context of the withdrawal of u.s. troops from syria people watching will be saying in the context of the withdrawal of u.s. troops from syria people watching will be saying al-qaeda those people were saudi nationals obviously previously al-qaeda those people were saudi nationals obviously previously supported by the united states but tell me about what happened when you met with our speaker nonsupport by the united states but tell me about what happened when you met with our speaker nancy pelosi because she was reported in the amazon washington d.c. pelosi because she was reported in the amazon washington post as saying to you if trump would lead on afghanistan she would what was the meeting like posters saying to you if trump would lead on afghanistan she would what was the meeting. the

meeting with the house speaker madam lucy in also the meeting with the house speaker a loosely in also other chairpersons of the committees of the congress other chairpersons of the committees of the congress of the us congress it was on the. partners of the u.s. congress it was on a. partnership to spend it in lots of concerns were days to be spent it in lots of concerns were raised in 2 common concerns on both sides. in 2 common concerns on both sides on the possibility of peace in their country on the impact of on the possibility of peace in their country on the impact of troop reduction in

their country in. on the outcome of the electroplate action in their country in. on the outcome of the elections in different possibilities in different scenarios. in different possibilities in different scenarios whether there will be threat to u.s. homeland security from afghanistan whether there will be threat to u.s. homeland security from afghanistan as a result of. us withdrawal and they should say that as a result of. us withdrawal and they should say that it was a completely bipartisan delegations nevertheless all of it was a completely bipartisan delegations nevertheless all of them were of the view that the u.s. should the stay committed them were of the view that the u.s. should to stay committed. in support of the peace process in their country in also

we should work together in support of the peace process in their country in also we should work together in order to facilitate. in creating other to facilitate. in created an environment so there will be no need for the presence of the used troops and environment so there will be no need for the presence of the used troops in the country to diffuse future so one of the main question questions since. their war was was that what. happened to the chief. of the in staff of the afghan people and people. in in the 2nd. people have made it for me for. giving the right which of course all of us will of the views which

of course all of us will of the view that those. hard earned achievements included in the we do that we could do that it was proper this out in to be a prisoner of events that only including the democratic process in has to be preserved and that only circumstances but we need to as afghans facilitate in create a city said consensus but we need to as afghans facilitate in create a situation an environment that we could live together as ration an environment that we could live together at peace with the taliban while maintaining our differences we are at peace with the taliban while maintaining our differences we have made if it's a. the past and we'll continue to do so in the future ok but you just said it made

if it's in the past and will continue to do so in the future ok but you just said i mean 18 years there when american troops in your country and you were talking with i mean 18 years there being american troops in your country and you were talking with nancy pelosi in the past few days literally about threats to u.s. homeland security you know what alosi in the past few days literally about threats to u.s. homeland security no one in your country is right now planning to fly airliners into american skyscrapers 18 in your country is right now planning to fly airliners into american skyscrapers 18 years on surely you are talking about security of u.s. troops in afghanistan not 16 years on surely you were talking about security of u.s. troops in afghanistan not security of the united states no but you're talking about it was purely of the united states no but you're talking about it was it was because of al qaeda presence in years back that it was because of al qaeda presence

in years back that to what had happened in in 11 in 911 to if the issue and. if the issue of the editors networks or not at the editor's desk needle that we were told is in doubt dealt with in the negotiations which are taking place between the taliban in the united states well clearly negotiations which are taking place between the taliban in the united states well look it's back to 20 years back nobody would have imagined that al qaeda will hit back or 20 years back nobody would have imagined that al qaeda will have the capability to launch attacks like $911.00 when it when it happened after have the capability to launch attacks like $911.00 when it when it happened afterwards so. no way we have proof now we have a true c.

did a petition what's so no way we have proof now we have a trooper who ceded a petition and we have proof of cables of people saying that they were going to be mounted mounting attacks and we have proof of cables of people saying that there were going to be mounted mounting attacks in afghanistan on the united states we know the united states supported the taliban and al qaeda in afghanistan in the united states we know the united states supported the taliban and al qaeda in your country but anyway you said you were meeting with those he was fruitful we said in your country but anyway you said your meeting with policy was fruitful we said even though the democrats under obama of course drone bombed your country you will come to even though the democrats under obama of course drone bombed your country you will come to a box or need to and stoltenberg which were silicate at mass killing arguably in afghanistan through nato you and stoltenberg which were silicate at mass killing arguably in afghanistan under nato why are you welcoming all this outside under

nato why are you welcoming all this outside what some afghans may call it interference in your country we are member what some afghans may call it interference in your country we have member. will come and outsides. just. will come and outsides. just point blank called. off half. a point blank called. off path. is that the deal was the fighting began in afghanistan al qaeda has established had established its bases in afghanistan to divorce the fighting began in afghanistan al qaeda has established had established its bases in afghanistan. it wasn't just

a threat to the to the to the united the star it wasn't just a threat to the to the to the united states but it was 1st and pommels it was a threat to the people of afghanistan in a sense but it was 1st and pommels it was a threat to the people of afghanistan in. 20 years back russian federation who were supporting the. 20 years back russian federation who were supporting that existence against al qaeda in their country so at a few other countries that existence against al-qaeda in their country so at a few other countries but do not it is this was not helping at that time in until the us but do not it is this was not helping at that time in until the tragic events of $911.00 took place it's not that the afghans want tragic events of $911.00 took place it's not that the afghans want foreign troops in their country

unfortunately we have. the situation that fallen troops in their country unfortunately we have. the situation in conditions has created. which will created lead to this same conditions has created. which will created lead to this situation at this moment as well we want afghanistan to live at peace within the church and at this moment as well we want afghanistan to live at peace within and without without the presence of the international troops. in without without the presence of the international troops. die issues in that country in the unfortunately days is that as in international die issues in the country in the unfortunately days is that as in international credit al qaeda is an international it's not just against the threat al-qaeda is an international it's not just against afghanistan. and also the violence continues through in taliban believe afghanistan

and also the violence continues through in taliban believe that they can they can pursue their objectives through violence this that they can they can pursue their objectives through violence this is not a desirable situation for the people of afghanistan none of our citizens would like is that a desirable situation for the people of afghanistan none of our citizens would like to see this continued about time fortunately we need to we need to to see this continued about time fortunately we need to we need to deal with it in also at the same time make if it's in order to achieve peace deal with it in also at the same time make if it's in order to achieve peace when you mentioned a action of course there have been allegations that this country that britain the united states was when you mentioned a action of course there were allegations that this country that britain the united states was supporting day in groups in in syria but back to what you said about

russia you achieve according to groups in in syria but back to what you said about russia you achieve advisor to ahmed shah masood his brother was on this show given that the next round an advisor to ahmed shah masood his brother was on this show given that the next round of negotiations are in beijing do you think certainly if you were president you would be looking to go she asians are in beijing do you think certainly if you were president you would be looking more eastwood's to russia to china than to the west to i say as more eastwood's to russia or to china than to the west who i say as i say have supported islamist groups in your country that morphed into those that can they say have supported islamist groups in your country that morphed into those that committed 911 i think any country who would agenda been limited 911 i think any country who would genuinely want to.

support peace and facilitate negotiations we want to support peace and facilitate negotiations between the africans fodder achieving a peaceful settlement. between the africans father achieving a peaceful settlement those efforts have been welcomed by the afghans in. afghans are eagerly waiting for the outcome of the elections at the same type of been welcomed by the afghans in. afghans are eagerly waiting for the outcome of the elections at the same time if there's an opportunity for their local. and. that their local probably will lead to that action of violence or ceasefire or hopefully will lead to that action of violence or ceasefire or the start of

negotiations. i don't think that it's more the start of negotiations. i don't think that that monopoly of one country. it isn't like monopoly of one country. it isn't like looking east or west it's the realities are such that looking east or west it's the realities are such that every country has as an interest in. every country has as an interest in peaceful outcome or a peaceful such useful outcome or. peaceful situation in afghanistan the continuation of the war the presence of taliban regime in afghanistan the continuation of the war the presence of taliban the prison. while

inside afghanistan and also al qaeda in that use. the presence of violence in afghanistan and also al qaeda in that use is not in the interest of and he can take it neighboring countries of afghanistan or or is not in the interest of and he can take it neighboring countries of afghanistan or or. but i but i shall shell told china will try to unite these cities or bad tonight at the ruin of this city and so when i do it it will ruin every one rule that one can ruin with it's important it's it's important that it's everybody agree with you. everybody agree with you i think a good god or on on them that human human rights watch word by gesture preparing now they are coming coming up with a report ot a disturbing report that there are cia units targeting afghans just serving report that there are cia units targeting afghans just for being in the vicinity of taliban activity doesn't cia raids maybe for being in the vicinity of taliban

activity doesn't cia raids maybe in 9 provinces appalling civilian casualties anything you could do is in 9 provinces appalling civilian casualties anything you could do as president to present that or simply state up the cia. who. do school boards drug groups groups or killing dogs or group elipse killing civilians in your country i need civilian casualty coming from money so i didn't clued in the units that means in your country i need civilian casualty coming from money so i didn't clued in the units that yourself too it's something which has to be taken seriously and yourself too it's something which has to be taken seriously and we need to we need to work in order to in order to prevent civilian we need to we need to work in order to in order to prevent civilian casualties in this case all in. on the other

situations unfortunately as a result of these in this case or in any other situations unfortunately as a result of. operations or or yet bombardment only of. operations or or yet bombardment only. a few days a minimum of. the the people who are civilians were targeted in. a suit the people who are civilians were targeted in. a suicide bomb that led to killing off dozens of our citizens idle bomb that led to killing off dozens of our citizens this is the approach and situation but when it is telling from us this is the approach and situation but when it is telling from our enemies we.

we need to we need to any mes we. we need to we need to we need to deal with it but when it is as a result of friendly operations we need to deal with it but when it is as a result of friendly operations against the enemies of peace in their country we should pay at most that against the enemies of peace in their country we should pay most attention to it in care just finally then dr abdullah abdullah attention to it in care just finally then dr abdullah abdullah and obviously resources and geography some people say that's the reason why some countries and obviously resources and geography some people say that's the reason why some countries want war in your country peace could it be desired to sided in beijing in one war in your country peace could it be desired that sided in beijing in china i don't think that. that the issue of plan i don't think that that

the issue of peace would be will be achieved as a result of peace would be will be achieved as a result of one get to get of i mean we are but the fact that one get to get of i mean we are but the fact that adel august taken place i considered it. a positive as a delegates taken place i considered it. a positive step daughter that has not taken place as of yet in what has to see what was the dog that has not taken place as of yet in what has to see what will be the action of the taliban during those. those will be the actions of the taliban during those. those. days that will continue in beijing. days that will

continue in beijing china if taliban agree on the reduction of violence or ceasefire china if taliban agree on the reduction of violence will cease fire during the negotiations between the afghans those could be. good in the negotiations between the afghans those could be would be considered as a support so peace will not be achieved as a result be considered as a support so peace will not be achieved as a result of one down the of their low but if if the 1st step of the one died of their low but if if the 1st step is positive then one could become more hopeful towards the future given this positive then one could become more hopeful towards the future give executive thank you you're welcome thank you. after the break the

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it. welcome back today marks the final week of the u.k. black history month. welcome back today marks the final week of the u.k. black history month celebrating black culture and politics here and going on the ground we've been looking at a new book that celebrates celebrating black culture and politics here and going on the ground we've been looking at a new book that celebrates one of the most influential black publications of the 20th century one that inspired some of today's greatest blown of the most influential black publications of the 20th century one that inspired some of today's greatest black activists and politicians race today previously edited by the legendary civil rights activist activist and politicians race today previously edited by the legendary civil rights activist dog because how practice not just journalism but. activism becoming part of the stories in campaigns how practice not

just journalism but activism becoming part of the stories and campaigns they covered i'm joined now by one of the magazine's former editors later how they were welcome to as they covered i'm joined by one of the magazine's former editors later how they were welcome to going underground black history month why now for this collected going underground black history month why now for this collected journalism of burning so many decades in total here to stay here to fight primarily journalism of branding so many decades in total here to stay here to fight primarily to celebrate the darkest it darkest how who was the editor to celebrate the darkest it darkest how who was the editor of race today and in fact from the very state collective dark turn half is a very sad and in fact from the very state collective darkest hour turned a half years ago now and a group of us a small group of us have been talking about how we can and should go now and

a group of us a small group of us have been talking about how we can ensure that his legacy that what he stood for is maintained and we came up with the idea that his legacy that what he stood for is maintained and we came up with the idea of producing an anthology of race today which for 4014 years of his life of producing an anthology of race today which for 4014 years of his life he was key in keeping the collective of 8 women and 6 men together he was key in keeping the collective of 8 women and 6 men together activists who produced a journal but were also politically active in the immigrant davis who produced a journal but were also politically active in the immigrant communities have to declare interest because your husband was a community have to declare interest because your husband was my boss for a few years. when i was at channel 4 i go to my boss for

a few years when i was at channel 4 i got to what he thought and it's very relevant because he has the shadow home secretary of what he thought and it's very relevant because he has the shadow home secretary of this country is there an abbot and she says she does it help a country is there a bit and she says she says it helped pave the way for black women in this country one of the most political eve the way for black women in this country one of the most political important political journals in britain attorney general secretary do you think important political journals in britain attorney general secretary do you think. it could have been shot of him secretary a black woman whom secretary could happen with. but could have been shared a room secretary a black woman home secretary could happen without race today without definitely not

definitely not i mean we now to chart out race today without definitely not definitely not i mean we now to chart what some people would term success down to the campaigning days out what some people would term success down to the campaigning days we campaign for black sections in the labor party we supported black sections in the labor we campaigned for black sections in the labor party we supported black sections in the labor party we went to the labor party conference to support them we gave voice to die our party we went to the labor party conference to support them we gave voice to die and we must say sections of the labor party as well were against the idea of these black and we must say sections of the labor party as well were against the idea of these black m.p.'s raising their issues and saying that they had the right to be considered as m.p.'s to represent raising their issues and saying that they had the right to be considered as m.p.'s to represent their immigrant population or their right wing trade. this

jew yes there immigrant population there is a right wing trading lists jew yes diane abbott is the 1st person ever to take prime minister's question yes or yes it was a dynamic is the 1st person ever to take prime minister's question yes or yes it was a way the book has quite a bit about police power as we used to down hard on political weight the book has quite a bit about police power as we used to down hard on political activity by people of color i mean a bit about that specifically i suppose it was with the largest collectively by people of color tell me a bit about that specifically i suppose it was with the largest street festival in europe carmilla not again the 1st campaign was by the street festival in europe carmilla not again the 1st campaign was by the police who really engineered a petition from the local community the police who really engineered a petition from the local community to say that qana bill should be taken off the streets of notting hill and since and we're talking about to say that conoco should

be taken off the streets of notting hill and since and we're talking about. the seventy's since then there is even today there is a system of the seventy's since then there is even today there is a systematic campaign that says that convo should not be on the streets of notting hill and so that's a campaign that says that convo should not be on the streets of notting hill and so that's something which even up until the end of his life doctors was attending meetings something which even up until the end of his life doctors was attending meetings against politicians and local councils he was saying it's too big for the street against the politicians and local councils he was saying it's too big for the streets we have to get out of the streets and put in a stadium because if something doesn't cost money it's no great we have to get out of the streets and put in the stadium because if something doesn't cost money it's not worth anything actually i mean. karl marx is there throughout partly because

anything actually i mean is there throughout partly because you say that the magazine raised today they want to do because you say that the magazine raised today they want you to bear witness to the stories of the working class is that as well as to represent a witness to the stories of the working class is that as well as to represent their views yes different to the soviet union so basically when we dock is one of done yes different to the soviet union so basically when we dock is one of doc's 1st editorials was that we would record record and recognize the struggles of the 1st editorials was that we would record record and recognize the struggles of the population and recognize that the revolutionary potential of these struggles. population and recognize that the revolutionary potential of these struggles and so we basically went to just immigrant communities and talk to people so we basically

went to just immigrant communities and talk to people we used i was 24 at the time so when doctors suggested i should recall we used i was 24 at the time so when doctors suggested i should read about this inquiry by karl marx i was a bit. part of course. i was a bit put off of what but of course in our activism we began to down this way and. activity was a. division was a kind of a cause and you didn't just go to a community you didn't have a camp just going between you had to know its ability have a campaign you had to know who the population was where they came from where they were what their preoccupation the population was where they came from where they were what their preoccupations were and what they wanted and that was how. we

approached our activism we were what they wanted and that was how we approached our activism we were successful in the countless police campaigns because that time is particular in the 70 s. well in the countless police campaigns because that time is particular in the seventy's i would say coming up to the eighty's a police pastime was to beat up young black men impetus i would say coming up to the eighty's a police pastime was to beat up young black men in particular and the framing of black youths and this is now been accepted by the police themselves and the framing of black youth and this is now been accepted by the police themselves but what we did is we had campaigns of you know the trickle 12 there be it wasn't like but what we did is we had campaigns of you know the trickle would 12 there be it was like 2 or 3 people that mass groups of people had been oppressed by the police and we then 2 or 3 people the mass groups of people had been oppressed by the police and we then would go in and supporting campaign for them and we were successful in some of

them and some of them we pursued would go in and supporting campaign for them and we were successful in some of them and some of them we persuaded predominately what the police were lying and others we were weighted predominately what the police were lying and others we want us to write legally were fine because a subsequent scotland you know. you're right legally we're fine because a subsequent scotland you know. chief said the police had an institutional racism absolutely and that would be chief the police an institutional racism absolutely and that would be some decades later yes i was disturbing is that. your some decades later yes i was disturbing is that. your one of your contributions in this book a lot of people do about impeachment in the united states and one of your contributions in this book a lot of people do about impeachment in the united states and everyone knows about watergate. that's

a kind of point you make in one of your pieces everyone knows about watergate that's a kind of point you make in one of your pieces in the book and you're making the point that people should know about cointelpro absolutely is in the book and you're making the point that people should know about cointelpro absolutely. yes nothing nothing to people still don't know about no no no. yes nothing nothing to people still don't know about no no no and so the black panther party which i have to say for many young black people including myself so the black panther party which i have to say for many young black people including myself before waste a day we were in these kind of black power will denies asians which would basically be for ways today we were in these kind of black power will denies asians which are basically many black panther party is we adopted a lot of their slogans a lot of their you know their ideology many black panther party is we adopted a lot of their slogans a lot of their you know their ideology but of course later on when the book came

out that i reviewed. but of course later on when the book came out that i reviewed in 2 about it turned out that the f.b.i. had infiltrated these organizations children to about it turned out that the f.b.i. had infiltrated these organizations to the extent that they called into nice i'm all fair and people were murdered and killed all in the extent that they called into nice i'm all fair and people were murdered and killed all instigated by the f.b.i. but in this you're saying in your piece dead end job critical ated by the f.b.i. but in this you're saying in your piece did in job creation programs for the poor and this is joining the beginning of that are near liberal factory or on education programs for the poor and this is during the beginning of those are near liberal. yes they were aimed at stopping the revolutionary spirit the spirit of the unemployed yes they were aimed at stopping the revolutionary spirit the spirit of the unemployed yes so by that i think what. meant was that

a lot of projects then click yes so by that i think what we meant was that a lot of projects then came up there would whereas we had meetings with use with a mop they would whereas we had meetings with use with parents with the black community to say what is the change you want and how do we get it and we believe parents with the black community to say what is the change you want and how do we get it and we believed it was by direct action and confronting the state that way they then came up it was by direct action and confronting the state that way they then came up with the whole ethos of what we call project tatton of having little use center with the whole ethos of what we call project tatton of having little use centers it'll use workers coming in and that meant that the rules of the way they use workers coming in and that meant that the rules of the. nation.

that mean the. sort of you know. that mean but. because they impose impose their own rules and restrictions on what they used to do within this institution because they impose impose their own rules and restrictions on what they used to do within these institutions the whole revolution and you went this particular on knife crime you know they're pouring lots of resources the whole revolution and you went this particular around knife crime you know they're pouring lots of resources into it but what about the boys themselves is anyone spoken to the boys themselves into it but what about the boys themselves is anyone spoken to the boys themselves about their daily existence on these estates where selling drugs is your only up about their daily existence on these estates where selling drugs is your only option and you attack these boys for what they're doing you know the whole post code lottery. and you attack these boys for what they're doing you know the whole post code lottery which is all about drugs but the big cocaine deal . as the people at the top are bringing in the drugs which is all about drugs but

the big cocaine dealers the people at the top are bringing in the drugs and these boys a very low in the food chain for all of this nobody talks about who these boys are very low in the food chain for all of this nobody talks about but we attack the victims of this whole economic setup the police denies that but we attack the victims of this whole economic setup the police denies and. they're doing everything they can they're the rioters in this saying that. they're doing everything they can through the rioters in this saying that intersectionality is so important race gender and class but. intersectionality is so important race gender and class but i mean have they been resolved to these struggles or even one only has to think of. i mean have they been resolved these struggles i mean when only as you think of how obama is revered in the united states obviously not from from the

poorest of. how do you see the book now in relation to how obama is revered in the united states obviously not from from the poorest of us as i do you see the book now in relation to what. what is talked about today about the struggles of race gender and what. what is talked about today about the struggles of race gender and i have accepted i mean people have been to meetings where they've talked about the book i'm people have said i have accepted i mean people have been to meetings where they've talked about the book i'm people have said here arguments do not talk about black anymore you got to talk about black women bad arguments do not talk about black anymore you got to talk about black women back and they you know there's a whole incident intersectionality debate but one of the things and they you know there's a whole incident intersectionality debate but one of the things that strikes me is where are the politics there's a lot of debate and discussion but i don't see it strikes me as where are the

politics there's a lot of debate and discussion but i don't see the challenge to traverse of the state the challenge jill dougherty which is basically was our bread and butter of the challenge the challenge of the state the challenge jill dougherty which is basically was our bread and butter of course while you talk about extreme violence in west kansas over the concourse while you talk about extreme violence in west kansas over the carnival period over yes we then of course i grant felt 72 on the whole period all the yes we then of course i grant felt 72 killed racism was charity been blamed again killed racism was charity been blamed again are we seeing the problem you just mentioned the politicization. again are we seeing the problem you just mentioned the politicization of a tragedy like grandfather but again with grandfather think that that there of

a tragedy like grandfather but again with grandfather think that that there is a political strand in it when phil but very quickly with you know the visits and the cause a political strand in it when phil but very quickly with you know the visits from the queen it kind of defuses what basically on the royal people start mean it kind of defuses what basically on the royal people start doing in a day to lean in the cloud see that another contribution is by one of the greatest intervene in the days you know even the cloud see that another contribution is by one of the greatest solicitors in british legal history arguably who fought for the . solicitors in british legal history arguably who fought for the irish community when it was being beaten up by the police care of peers yes she's now julia rich community and when it was being beaten up by the police care of peers yes she's now julian songes lawyer yes tell me about she says something in this book she says

songes lawyer yes tell me about it she says something in this book says to political actions are embedded in 20th century british his 2 political actions are embedded in 20th century british history 20000 black britons marching after the new crossfire stree 20000 black britons marching after the new cross fire in the seventy's and the trial of your husband in the seventy's and the trial of your husband in an amount of time for many people watching would even know know of the trial and amount of time for many people watching would even know know the guarantees are saying these are 2 seminal moments in british history jess the. these are saying these are 2 seminal moments in british history jess figures through the case the black people's day of action there was

a fire in new cross and through the case the black people's day of action there was a fire in new cross and young people were killed in the fire it was a 16th birthday party the area in which the party was held been known for national fun activity they've been a balmy 13 young people were killed in the fire it was a 16th birthday party the area in which the party was held been known for national fun activity they've been a bombing of a youth club before the bombing of a house called the sunderland moat bombing on the day of a youth club before the bombing of a house called the sunderland moat bombing on the day this is what the mother of 2 of the people at the party was told it was mrs what the mother of 2 of the people at the party was told it was a fire bomb there was a man in the car and then the police tried to turn around and say that a fire bomb there was a man in the car and then the police tried to turn around and say that 4 black boys had a fight in the party and they cause the fire so we were 4 black boys had

a fight in the party and they cause the fire so we were fighting the police on that front taking statements from people who were going. to confide to the police on that front taking statements from people who were going. to going to people but the anger was so strong we called a meeting of which we thought 30 people to people but the anger was so strong we called a meeting of which we thought 30 people would attend and 300 people turned up and they didn't turn up just from london they came from birmingham would attend and 300 people turned up and they didn't turn up just from london they came from birmingham manchester so we realised that there was a kind of national feeling and manchester so we realised that there was a kind of national feeling of this really was the final straw but the something really had to be done this really was the final straw but the something really had to be done and. we go to put

a people he pursues assembly again and people again people that know. but we. have to see them. and is all and. always try to politicize the people themselves more than than would be normal and was try to politicize the people themselves more than that would be normal and we agreed in the people's assembly that we would have a model which across london we agreed in the people's assembly that we would have a march across london on a working day that we wouldn't do the traditional let's do it on a saturday on a working day that we wouldn't do the traditional let's do on a saturday go to trafalgar square have a rally and so on a monday we did and we gathered in to trafalgar square have a rally and so on a monday we did and we gathered in a park and i remember all of us the collective there and other activists thinking

park and i remember all of us the collective there and other activists thinking was this a mistake who's going to come and then bit by bit it just filled and that's when was this a mistake who's going to come and then bit by bit it just failed and as we march children from schools people jumped off must buses and by the time we got children from schools people jumped off must buses and by the time we got to the west to blackfriars bridge we were about 15 to 20000 strong but when we got to the west to blackfriars bridge we were about 15 to 20000 strong but when we got about 5 bridge the police were there with a complete cordon saying you're not passing bridge the police were there with a complete cordon saying you're not passing and i have to say it was a young people who sent a message back to doctors on the bus to say we're being and i have to say young people who sent a message back to doctors on the bus to say we're being prevented. with the doctor's office on the lower. it is put through we

really have to know where it will go after very little whether they learn they have to but by the book for it but for. just finally you've seen the kinds of accusations and criticisms leveled against it you've seen the kinds of accusations and criticisms leveled against it yes it is in this book saying she's useless economy doing the job yes is in this book saying she's useless economy doing the job. election imminent no more do you expect against your election imminent no more do you expect against your calling i mean the attacks on her been absolutely vicious some are calling i mean the attacks on her been absolutely vicious and when they're raising racist sexist i mean the threats against her life that threatens when they're raising racist sexist i mean the

threats against her life that threatens to physically assault i mean i have been discussing and the fact of physically. i mean i have been discussing and the fact that you know she has stood strong. and still cared and i think it's great testament that you know she has stood strong and still cared and i think it's great testament to done i'm sure we are going to see going forward vilification of do you want to i'm sure we can we are going to see going forward vilification of do you want diane abbott to be the home secretary the ha ha or no way this woman is used to be the home secretary the ha ha or no way this woman is that would that would definitely be part of the campaign as we go through in the election that would that would definitely be part of the campaign as we go through in the election allow thank you that's it for the show in a 2nd we'll hear music from race today inspired poet allow thing. q that's it for

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