following accusations that not only was she in her now former husband kenny has left i have been following accusations that not only was she and her now former husband kenny has left having a sexual relationship with one of her campaign aides but also according to mr house up in a sexual relationship with one of her campaign aides but also according to mr house up she was having an affair with her legislative director as well as the new york times she was having an affair with her legislative director as well as the new york times reports this scandal went into the ugly territory of revenge porn when red state police reports this scandal went into the ugly territory of revenge porn when red state published text messages and nude photos of ms hill in intimate poses the photos that she still does text messages and nude photos of ms hill in intimate poses the photos that she said in a statement were circulated by an abusive husband who see that in a statement were circulated by an abusive husband who seems determined to try to humiliate determined to try to humiliate me this her supporters argue makes ms hill

not a perpetrator but able me this her supporters argue makes ms hill not a perpetrator but a victim of both an abusive relationship and revenge porn which is illegal under california lick them of both an abusive relationship and revenge porn which is illegal under california law with revenge for now come full force in the world of u.s. politics the question of law with revenge for now come full force in the world of u.s. politics the question is will our elected officials take this seriously or will it end up more nothing more as will our elected officials take this seriously or will it end up more nothing more than just another scandalous story in a town that trades on controversy let's find out more than just another scandalous story in a town that trades on controversy let's find out as we start watching the hawks. morning out as we start watching the hawks. if you want to. the to.

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panel discussion on 2 major stories about their role but since i'm top of the wall is joining us today on the panel discussion on 2 major stories affecting us politics and politics today is investigative journalist ben swan arts and us politics politics today is investigative journalist ben swan r t america correspondent rachel blevins and michelle green side and our team america america correspondent rachel blevins and michelle and our team america producer branch of war thanks for joining us it was very happy and i want to start producer branch of war thanks for joining us very happy and i'm i want to start. for howard as a moment have just already of the time and i'm george of the but i'm an issue the fact that during the bush do that it's affected you know female celebrities female news anchors many non famous women you know women are around female celebrities female news anchors many non famous women you know women around the. world given the

cutthroat scam the loving nature of watching world given the cutthroat and scam the loving nature of washington d.c. politics are really going to be seeing more of these types of scandals take place here on time to be see politics are really going to be seeing more of these types of scandals take place here on capitol hill ben i'll start with you. well i think we will certainly see capitol hill ben i'll start with you. well i think we will certainly see more because of the simply the digital age that we're in you have photographs that are easy more because of the simply the digital age that we're in you have photographs that are easy to come by and images that are easy to share but i also think that some of the issues start to come by and images that are easy to share but i also think that some of the issues surrounding hills interesting because while you're right in your lead up you mentioned that her supporters are saying katie hills interesting because while you're right in your lead up you mentioned that her supporters are saying she's

a victim here the woman who feels that she was victimized by katie hill does not think she's a victim here the woman who feels that she was victimized by katie hill does not think she's a victim in fact that that staffer repeatedly has said that in text messages the victim in fact that that staffer repeatedly has said that in text messages to hill that she felt taken advantage of and she felt like he had taken advantage of her and abused her to hill that she felt taken advantage of and she felt like he had taken advantage of her and abused her in different ways so you know i think it's important to keep in the context that while this in different ways so you know i think it's important to keep in the context that while this this is kind of a new era in terms of the availability of some of these images it's important this is kind of a new era in terms of the availability of some of these images it's important to also in this me to moment to hold those who are in power accountable for the way they tried to also in this me too moment to hold those who are in power accountable for the way they treat peep. who are under them. and i think this is an interesting

point that ben just made there the people who are under them. and i think this is an interesting point that ben just made there which is there probably are ethical concerns to cahill's situation ok which is there probably are ethical concerns to cahill's situation ok but the fact that lewd photos of her were released. but the fact that lewd photos of her were released that were released without her permission that she did take with permission were released that's the problem at hand he leaves without her permission that she did take with permission were released that's the problem at hand here now when it comes to an ethics investigation that can all be addressed but this should have never came to light in this or now when it comes to an ethics investigation that can all be addressed but this should have never came to light in this manner these situations this story could have been released to the public commander these situations this story could have been released to the public released even on red state without publishing

those photos so you think it's a situation where it's like the least even on red state without publishing those photos so you think it's a situation where it's like 2 wrongs don't make a right correct absolutely right as for the question of whether this is going to wrongs don't make a right correct absolutely right answer the question of whether this is going to keep happening i think that is probably likely the case because this is a tell of it is all this talk happening i think that is probably likely the case because this is a tell of it is all this time when you look at this kind of thing and i mean i think ben's right when you look at the computer age these photos their mind when you look at this kind of thing and i mean i think ben's right when you look at the computer age these photos are much more easy to share and to keep track of and of course this is one of those stories that the media would much more easy to share and to keep track of and of course this is one of those stories that the media would much rather talk about this then they would talk about the national debt or war or that kind of thing that much rather talk about this then they would talk about the national debt or war or that kind of thing and i. i think also it's not

just a situation with revenge porn it also allegedly is a situation and i think also it's not just a situation with revenge porn it also allegedly is a situation of an abusive ex and that's never you know a good situation and i think tyrrel you hit the nail on that of an abusive ex and that's never you know a good situation and i think tyrrell you hit the nail on the head when you said that this is you know nothing gets the press more jazzed up in a sex scandal head when you said that this is you know nothing gets the press more jazzed up in a sex scandal you know there are a number of conflicts of interest with the press there number of reasons that may be but it's really that you know there are a number of conflicts of interest with the press there number of reasons that may be but it's really this whole scandal has really been compounded by the fact that of course the media loves scandals like these it just gets whole scandal has really been compounded by the fact that of course the media love scandals like these it just gets people to pay attention let me know and that's true by the way whether it's men or will to pay attention let me know and that's true by the way whether it's men or women don't forget carlos danger and to be winner in all of his

photographs now they were at least by women don't forget carlos danger and i mean we know all of his photographs now they weren't leaked by a spouse but again the media was very excited because there is a did a spouse but again the media was very excited because there is a digital record of this you know you mentioned back a long time ago gary hart back in 1980 you should all record of this you know you mentioned back a long time ago gary hart back in 1988 when he had it was jennifer flowers who was sitting on his lap and he dared the media to kate when he had it was jennifer flowers who was sitting on his lap and he dared the media to catch him cheating on his wife and they did but the problem is that you know chip cheating on his wife and they did but the problem is is that you know back then it was all in your mind it was all created in your mind and today not so much back then it was all in your mind it was all created in your mind and today not so much there. let me. i guess

i'll start with you the ladies on the panel. let me. i guess i'll start with you the ladies on the panel do you think that this will have an effect because one of the fears that a lot of people have is the do you think that this will have an effect because one of the fears that a lot of people have is that just like going into hollywood you know that you have to be very careful just like going into hollywood you know that you have to be very careful if you're going to go into public life at all but especially in politics and public service people if you're going to go into public life at all but especially in politics and public service knowing in the digital age somewhere out there you know and this goes for the men on the panel to knowing in the digital age somewhere out there you know and this goes for the men on the panel too we all have axes we all have ex husbands wives we all have axes we all have ex husbands wives girlfriends boyfriends lovers it doesn't matter they could

have that one picture girlfriends boyfriends lovers it doesn't matter they could have that one picture they could have that one text message they could have you know that snap chat that you sent them but they could have that one text message they could have you know that snap chat that you sent them and is this going to have you know this idea that someone could use this or these things and is this going to have you know this idea that someone could use this or these things to come out you know is that going to keep women out of out of public service to come out you know is that going to keep women out of out of public service because very kind of have this idea like oh well i smoked marijuana in college because very kind of have this idea like oh well i smoked marijuana in college i got a drunk driving take and i can't ever run for president do you think this is going to have a chilling effect on women drunk driving take and i can't ever run for president do you think this is going to have a chilling effect on women and follow. i didn't say they would keep them out of

politics but i do think that it's going to make them think twice about what they might fall into i wouldn't say that it would keep them out of politics but i do think that it's going to make them think twice about what they do i mean in the same way that before the digital age you may have thought twice about who you had sex with because you i mean in the same way that before the digital age you may have thought twice about how you had sex with because you didn't want to get an s.t.d. now maybe you'll think twice about who you send a picture to or who you want to get and now maybe you'll think twice about who you send a picture to or who use an explicit text message to you because there's a chance to make sure it's a may make you think twice plus a text message too because there's a chance to make sure it's a may make you think twice about just who you're talking to about that but at the same time it also kind of ushers in the age of accountability about just who you're talking to about that but at the same time it also kind of ushers in the age of accountability because if we're hearing more about these stories in congress and where politicians are taking and betty because if we're hearing more about these stories in congress and where politicians are taking advantage of their staffers

then that may make them think twice and that may make other staffers then wanted to have their staffers that may make them think twice and that may make other staffers then want to speak out because they're hearing these stories and because they realize that they may actually be listened want to speak out because they're hearing these stories and because they realize that they may actually be listened to and believed and to your point about the new digital age let's look with any new technology that you and believed and to your point about the new digital age let's look with any new technology there is the potential for it to be used in a good way or in a bad way so there's a huge nuclear is the potential for it to be used in a good way or in a bad way so there's a huge new potential for abuse here when it comes to the way that like nude photos can be legal minds and stuff like that tensional for abuse here when it comes to the way that like nude photos can be legal minds and stuff like that and of course it's a tragic tragic situation for this individual that she now you know lost her career and of course it's a tragic tragic situation for this individual that she now you know lost her career . nobody wants that to happen to them like i'm sure all of us have you know

compromising things about ourselves nobody wants that to happen to them like i'm sure all of us have you know compromising things about ourselves somewhere on the internet so there's a huge potential for abuse here at the same time though i think since we're somewhere on the internet so there's a huge potential for abuse here at the same time though i think since we're you know sitting here on this great and diverse panel and we are members of the media we can also be critical about how sitting here on this great and diverse panel and we are members of the media we can also be critical about how the media has talked about this way more than maybe some would say they show how the media has talked about this way more than maybe some would say they should of course this is a bad situation for her you know she's losing her career that should of course this is a bad situation for her you know she's losing her career that's very terrible but what does that have to do with you know the average working class citizen not a very terrible but what does that have to do with you know the average working class citizen not a whole lot of course we can say hey revenge porn bad for sure but what are we not

covering when we are covering a whole lot of course we can say hey revenge porn bad for sure but what are we not covering when we are covering you know sex scandals well i think it's interesting that 1st attempts point i think there is a sex scandal well i think it's interesting that 1st attempts point i think that there is a lot of you have to be concerned about these things and i think now when you go into public life you have. you have to be concerned about these things and i think now when you go into public life you have to look at every skeleton in your closet and whether the skeleton is actually a bad skeleton to look at every skeleton in your closet and whether the skeleton is actually a bad skeleton or just a i made a decision one time in my life to send a photo that was inappropriate just a i made a decision one time in my life to send a photo that was inappropriate to someone i loved you know i mean we've fallen out of love other people are free. to someone i loved you know i mean we've fallen out of love other people are free. you know what it was and what i'm saying is

obviously a rhotic is that there were no i mean that you don't know what it was what i'm saying is obviously a rhotic is that the right where that i'm looking for but i hope it's not to be so when you do that you have to think if you're going to be anywhere that i'm looking for but i hope it's not to be so when you do that you have to think if you're going to be anything in public office or anything in a public life that those things can come out because somebody may think in public office or anything in a public life that those things can come out because somebody may be vindictive you may have done something wrong and frankly you may have been hacked as well if you've been dicked of you may have done something wrong and frankly you may have been hacked as well and so there are a lot of issues with this that we do have to be concerned about and i mean i don't think we're taking and so there are a lot of issues with this that we do have to be concerned about and i mean i don't think we're taking away katie his career by the way she's 32 years old i think she she lost her she she's going to have a way katie his career by the way she's 32 years old i think she she lost her she she's going to have to step down on this particular situation she's chosen to based

on what was come out but she have to step down on this particular situation she's chosen to based on what was come out but she has a long a long life ahead of her and hopefully she can take this revenge porn as a long a long life ahead of her and hopefully she can take this revenge porn situation and maybe make it an advocacy that she can work on because she's been affected by a situation and maybe make it an advocacy that she can work on because she's been affected by it she's she's a public she's going to work on being an advocate against you know this she's in the public eye she's going to work on being an advocate against you know the actions of ripping the floor was the democrats using this issue to position themselves you know and the revenge actions of ripping the floor was the democrats using this issue to position themselves you know and the revenge porn and that's something you know you could say it's a political win for them in that way because obviously you don't want to be one and that's something you know you could say is a political win for them in that way because obviously you don't want to be on the . side of pro revenge. debate i don't know that one right on the side of pro

revenge. debate i don't know that one but right well obviously there's apparently according to c.n.n. there's a g.o.p. operative with hundreds and well obviously there's apparently according to c.n.n. there's a g.o.p. operative with hundreds and hundreds of these photos of katie which again makes you question what kind of person is just keeping a big chunk of this and sending it off but i think one of the things is that hundreds of these photos of katie which again makes you question what kind of person is just keeping a big chunk of this and sending it off but i think one of the things is that we are so we still have a lot of shame in normal human interactions that we're so we still have a lot of shame in normal human interactions that we all have and that goes from like remember it was oh my gosh obama smokes that we all have and that goes from like remember it was oh my gosh obama smoked. oh my gosh she's bisexual you know

and in her defense. oh my gosh she's bisexual you know and in her defense she has she stood on the floor you know if congress today and took full responsibility friends she has she stood on the floor you know of congress today and took full responsibility for the end appropriate actions and all the people she let down but i think we have to remember the end appropriate actions and all the people she let down but i think we have to remember this is an abusive situation and there's there's that line we go to that this is an abusive situation and there's there's that line we go to that says how much how much do we know and how much we don't know it's like of course is how much how much do we know and how much we don't know it's like of course she could want to think that or anyone could so i can go ahead with luminal i don't she could but i think that or anyone could so then go ahead with luminal i don't. but i think it's important that we also keep sight of the

fact that they mean to cut you off but i think it's important that we also keep sight of the fact that they did not step down because of revenge porn because if if katie hell did not step down because of revenge porn because if if these were nude photos of her and there was no abuse to her staff or if she had not taken advantage these were nude photos of her and there was no abuse to her staff or if she had not taken advantage of this staffer they were simply just pictures of her being bisexual she would not going to have the staff or they were simply just pictures of her being bisexual she would not be stepping down right now she did take advantage of someone who was under her and we're living stepping code out right now right she now that it take its advantage of someone who is under her and we're living in a culture right now that says regardless of whether you're as regard or a woman he's afraid that you're either a man a runner when you do bad image not have the right of people who take advantage of people who are under you in this way and that's what's important here too is that

we were under you in this way and that's what's important here too is that you know i get you guys know i i'm not i don't play republican or democrat on the right or you know i get you guys know i i'm not i don't play republican or democrat on the right or left but i absolutely believe that there has to be accountability for people who are in prison left but i absolutely believe that there has to be accountability for people who are in positions of power to not abuse the people underneath them if you can not abuse decisions of power to not abuse the people underneath them if you can not abuse the stafford avenue for you except when are you going to be able to even reveal. what data but i think i have a quick question for you if you then say for you that you think you have read think if red state had published an artist an article that rhetoric for a for instance status after death for and so. ok this staffer says that she was

abused without power and said ok this staffer says that she was abused without posting any pictures or anything explain kind of the whole situation you think katie he would have still been forced to step down in order to post any pictures or anything explain kind of the whole situation you think katie here would have still been forced to step down or did the or do the pictures give her the give the attention to the story which caused her to be do the pictures give her the give the attention to the story which caused her to be. kind of i think. yeah i think you're exactly right i think you're exactly right and i think. yeah i think you're exactly right i think you're exactly right when you say that this was the fuel that went into the open like you say it that that was the but i feeling that all that's that went into the rot phone buyer and but i think that's the wrong reason for her to have stepped on my thing is the wrong fuel that went on the fire so i agree with you i'm not i'm not for her to have stepped on my thing is the wrong fuel that went on the fire so i agree with you i'm not i'm not arguing that it was ok or even it's

even it's not that during the night it was ok or even within acceptable but from from it from him and i believe that we believe that we probably would all agree on this from a journalism standpoint the issue should have been focused on it on the on this from a journalism standpoint the issue should have been focused on on the taking advantage of this of the staff or staff or not. the issue of the photographs the issue of the photographs themselves so but not to not to lose sight of it was side because i think that anyone hurt her can her face some of what a lot of her supporters are saying they now now is that they're trying to paint her as only any of that. he not only if they can think of him she is the big lesson let's also remember to turn that into a wild yes she broke the rules of congress having a relationship with someone we're going to wild yes she broke the rules of congress having a relationship with that staffer but at the same time it was

a mutual relationship it wasn't but the center was at some beings out there but at the same time it was a mutual relationship it wasn't that the staffer was being harvey weinstein this was actually they were no he's actually going to get a couple but we have to move on right now harvey weinstein this was actually they were no is actually going to get a couple but we have to move on right now but thank you so everybody and everybody seems to you and ben will seriously you're barely back years we're showing jointly right here as we go to as we go break clock work that on through the break or get off of work let us know what you're going to get us know what you can get because you're the top of cover covered on our poll 1st of all she had to be sure if the teacher got her to check out the podcast to do an album they all want to spotify off over the years now because ever will be where the one who is this is the part of pod but i asked there's a couple everywhere you look at the podcast going up we continue to cover the panel today we got in but we can to get them to the new little birds they vote but they are by the u.s. hands held today in the present begin to thursday's vote by the u.s. house of representatives through the beginning impeachment inquiry into the actions

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consent and other principles according to no no one can chose home since day. one once or set a rules for the rich. ops it's a. that's what happens when you put you put her and her there in the hands of a narrow sector of will which will is an ounce of narrow sector of will which will is dedicated to increasing power for itself just as you'd expect one of the most influence educated to increasing power for itself just as you'd expect one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization of the one chill intellectuals of our time. speaks about the modern civilization of america.

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and i to boot 30. and i do 322196 the u.s. has a right to enter $100.00 of those are votes but it will be on the u.s. wherever it was and i just thought of that and i voted on some guidelines for the next phase of the impeachment inquiry into president donald j. trump the votes almost completely along party lines of the impeachment inquiry into president donald j. trump the votes almost completely along party lines will most likely make the divide amongst members of congress worse rather than better and at the core of it

will most likely make the divide amongst members of congress worse rather than better and at the core of the inquiry is a partisan political divide house rules committee ranking member at. republican representative tom cole had this to say on how his party feel query is a partisan political divide house rules committee ranking member and republican representative tom cole had this to say on how his party feels about the proceedings. with you know we're meeting here today to set forward goals about the proceedings. which you know we're meeting here today to set forward a full force of process for impeaching a president of the united states in my force a process for impeaching a president of the united states in my view it's not a fair process it's not an open process that's certainly not been a transfer view it's not a fair process it's not an open process that's certainly not been a transparent process and limited and closed and frankly i think american process

unlimited inclosed and frankly i think we're moving toward a preordained result over the last month several house committees of moving toward a preordained result over the last month several house committees have been engaged in what's been called in and get wage normal model it's been because he tipped me off that if one or more all in pick one pietschmann inquiry quote unquote but. of course there's nothing formal about it of course in their speech not have nothing should think about out it out absolutely and then the speaker saying so alice has never voted to conduct such an inquiry and the committees have operated in the dark without form a lot of or voted to conduct such an inquiry and the committees have operated in the dark without formal authorization on what amounts to nothing more than an expanded fishing expedition was a sion on what amounts to nothing more than an expanded fishing expedition on the other side of the aisle the democrats were planning to make sure that they weren't

paying them best. on the other side of the island democrats were in to make sure that they weren't painted us taking the proceedings lightly with chairman of the house intelligence committee adam schiff taking the proceedings lightly with chairman of the house intelligence committee adam schiff. we recognize the seriousness of this and we recognize the seriousness of this undertaking. we reckon. that at. we have been compelled we by have been could assert compelled by the state certain circumstances an instant is to move forward. move forward. whereas to that event. abuse this when a president. abuses his or her office his job or often for the

presidency back when a price resident sac is there for them if i sat is that mr nat'l is still interest . when a president than president of the infuses refers to a few defenses in the diffs the transmission the con it's the truth. and does so for the purpose of advancing a personal or political agenda and does so for the purpose of advancing a personal or political agenda. the founders provided the remedy. i make no pre-judgment the founders provided the remedy. i make no pre-judgment as to whether. that remedy will be warranted when we as to whether. that remedy will be warranted when we finish these hearings i will wait until all the facts are put forward to finish these hearings i will wait until all the facts are put forward. we will undertake the duty with this crist and as it does we

undertake this duty with the seriousness it deserves and to the best of our ability thank you so will the 2 parties and to the best of our ability thank you. so will the 2 party system find a way to unite on the basis of facts rules and procedures or will even the real system find a way to unite on the basis of facts rules and procedures or will even the rules of the impeachment turn the whole thing into another political circus for the american people to deals of the impeachment turn the whole thing into another political circus for the american people to deal. so all of us most of a ok like half of. so all of us most of a ok like half of this is a civil war i remember and were old enough to have a clinton burn this is the same remember we were there and world and. the burglars are going to stay with us so i'm like back at the bottom of. the

economy like a little i'm like back in the day so way back today. because we've been going back with a good. as you know i'm going for the good impeachment and i'm still a little traumatized from it because it went on forever and it'll very traumatized . because it went on forever and they are very i'm i'm already like oh i don't know if we want to do this do you when i'm already well and i don't know if we want to do this do you was there any other alternative do you think other than impeachment the there are alternatives that are they have to take you standing other than impeachment that the democrats could have taken to hold trump account until the whole for. a count on the polls or for his song is a perfect song i'm going to say and i don't i don't mean to jump in here 1st but i'm going to say you know what always works and i'm going to say and i don't i

don't mean to jump in here 1st but i'm going to say you know what always works a senate or congressional censure and everybody knows that changes the world a senate or congressional censure everybody knows that changes the world you basically. ok you were a bad guy nothing gets done about this you basically say hey you were a bad guy nothing gets done about this so that's what they should have done i mean look the include the soft inquiry before the formal inquiry that officially took off today but was an investigation was the start of an investor so that's what they should have done i mean look the include the soft inquiry before the formal inquiry that officially took off today but was an investigation it was the start of an investigation they were checking to see if there was any there there as they say and then now they voted against it they were checking to see if there was any there there as they say and then now they've voted to open the formal inquiry which is also again going to be open and now we're going to see to open the formal inquiry

which is also again going to be open and now we're going to see if there's any there there and then we'll see how it goes it's just the process of our government if there's any there there and then we'll see how it goes it's just the process of our government i'm not sure what the big deal is here i'm not sure what instability to. what. strains are likely watching the news and watching people who you know a simple google search will tell you went to ivy league school and watching people who you know as simple google search will tell you went to ivy league schools they should understand how these books. they should i don't understand how they all know these big there's a good process and i says i don't know if they know that google exists and they could look at out there is a set of you know you have to you know decide what these things are assessed and they could look at out there is a set of you know you have to you know decide what these things are why do you think of so it's been so easy for just sort of our basic processor why do you think so it's been so easy for just sort of our basic processes to not be clear to the

american people like it just seems that we don't know what's going on because it has to not be clear to the american people like it just seems that we don't know what's going on because we've had congress after her. had congress after congress take these are easing rules rules making games and now and we're now we're literally sitting here with republican rules but it's other republicans so it doesn't count because they're literally sitting here with republican rules but it's other republicans so it doesn't count because there's nothing weird that our basic civics has become so. i think we're that our basic civics has become so oh we would have them i think this is a certain extent because you look at the media coverage of the word impeachment and rudeness people like you come in and turn and sort of out of there because you look at the the media coverage out of the word but it minutes and also interesting when you look at this case the civically because it's become sort of this big bad word but it's also interesting when you look at this case the civically because this

legendary phone call with ukraine that they're all talking about they're saying that it was legendary phone call with ukraine that they're all talking about they're saying that it was a risk to national security yet when you look at the media coverage of other things president the risk to national security yet when you look at the media coverage of other things president trump does that may be a legitimate risk to national security they don't talk about that at all they don't talk about his really does that may be a legitimate risk or national security they don't talk about that at all they don't talk about his relationship with saudi arabia they don't talk about these ongoing wars in the middle east that have continued under his ship was saudi arabia they don't talk about these ongoing wars in the middle east that have continued under trump and they've gotten worse in some ways and you look at those wars in those countries that are being a trump and they've gotten worse in some ways and you look at those wars in those countries that are being bombed and the children that are growing up under that bombing will they may go on to want to be were bombed and the children that are growing up under that bombing will they may go on to want to be revenge terrorist

and then come attack the united states is that not a national security risk so it is revenge terrorist and then come attack the united states is that not a national security risk so it is kind of international way to say but hard it is hard. is a national security risk so we're not going to hear about it kind of internet part is part of the national security risk so we're not going to hear about it as much and just to piggyback off what you're saying i mean who wins when we talk about a peach but not that we should as much and just to piggyback off what you're saying i mean who wins when we talk about a ph but not that we shouldn't be talking about you know what you said and also the abuse of power that probably yes that was an abuse of power i mean to be talking about you know what you said and also the abuse of power that probably yes that was an abuse of power i mean like you know open and shut case but the same time we're not talking about the legalized forms of corruption on would like you know open and shut case but the same time we're not talking about the legalized forms of corruption on which this entire country runs the fact that you know is bombing even more than obama did these pipes this entire country runs the fact that you know is bombing even more than obama did these bipartisan friends in from forms of clean.

basically paddle have been since it's actually gold next morning in saudi x. a comment on me is that in fact theory in theory should be a huge scandal i think it's really telling that obama exactly the right guy should be a huge scandal i think it's really telling that obama exactly right but i say martin he's for a bunch of a corruption artisans and for think if need correction i really think hell get me going you've got really feeling this that called the so-called this resistance this has really cohered around a narrative that doesn't focus on trump's islamophobia his corrupt has really cohered around a narrative that doesn't focus on trump's islamophobia his corruption his enriching you know people in his cabinet for their own personal benefit is that on sexual his enriching you know people in his cabinet for their own personal benefit is that on sexual exaggerate on that there's a lot of real scandals that should be out there but instead being focused exactly on that there's a lot of real scandals that should be out there but instead we focus on this you

know alleged collusion with russia and now the issues of and i want to ask you i want to ask you on this you know alleged collusion with russia and now the issues of n.p.t. i want to ask you i want to. bring you into this is you and railed against the 2 party system. quite a bit to bring you into this is you and i have railed against the 2 party system quite a bit in our time especially on this show is this entire. event is and is this entire kind of circus around the impeachment and the process of what they're going about given the points we've just brought up is this you know can impede the process of what they're going about given the points we've just brought up is this you know can impeachment even operate correctly under the weight of the 2 party system that we're currently kind of human even operate correctly under the weight of the 2 party system that we're currently kind of sitting under no i really can't but i mean if you go back even in the you know tab of the mentioned for us old people here back in the ninety's in the clinton administration sitting under.

no it really can't but i mean if you go back even and you don't have a mention for us old people here in the ninety's to the clinton administration it didn't work then either but you know what's really interesting about that is bill clinton it didn't work then either but you know what's really interesting about that is bill clinton was impeached of course he was not removed from office we all know that he actually left office more pas impeached of course he was not removed from office we all know that he actually left office more popular afterwards but what's interesting is during george w. bush's era this is the guy who you are afterward but what's interesting is during george w. bush's era this is the guy who light a lot of items about weapons us mashups this construction and lot and i just lied us into this into the iraq war and one phone point nancy pelosi 'd at that time was asked that each time and for what him and she said about that it would be. good it with you know she said that it would do the country no good it would do no one in it could really the one in the really who does get into the iraq war who are not us

into. the den i was not be impeached because it does no one any good to michel's point there are bipartisan issues that you'll never be impeached over any good to michelle's point there are bipartisan issues that you'll never be impeached over and that's why i think the public as a whole looks at this and they just don't understand it and that's why i think the public as a whole looks at this and they just don't understand it that people basically focus on this issue based on where they stand either for trump or against people basically focus on this issue based on where they stand either for trump or against him if you're against trump and you're for impeachment not because you understand this story or the if you're against trump and you're for impeachment not because you understand the story or the the weight of the story but simply because it fits your narrative and that's what the media has put the weight of the story but simply because it fits your narrative and that's what the media has pushed us into and

that's what the 2 party system. them pushes us into and the fact is you guys all know pushed us into one that's what the 2 party system pushes us into and the fact is you guys all know there's no point in this anyways because if it goes to the senate if the house votes to impeach it goes there's no point in this anyways because if it goes to the senate if the if the house votes to impeach it goes the senate it won't even go to a trial mitch mcconnell would just kill it on day one that's the end of it we move on to the senate it won't even go to a trial mitch mcconnell would just kill it on day one that's the end of it we move on to the election and to ben's point here it's interesting about what nancy pelosi said because election here and to ben's point here it's interesting about what nancy pelosi said because even 6 months ago she said there's no appetite for that it's not a very popular thing to impeach even 6 months ago she said there's no appetite for that it's not a very popular thing to impeach what she found was oh we can get a little bit of a political expediency off this we're headed into the what she found was oh we can get a little bit of a political expediency off this we're headed into the election season we can get

just a little bit about this and to michelle's point i thought this is very interesting election season we can get just a little bit about this and to michelle's point i thought this is very interesting as i was thinking about this while we were pushing that was i think a great about coal at the well where when he said that said i don't like you know coal when he said it's like you know you're doing this there's been no boats there's been no anything there you know what like when you're dropping bombs on people you're doing this there's been no boats there's been no anything you know what like when you're dropping bombs on people there are no boat there and so we've seen a lot a lot of that have a habit of going for a vote and. driving under the bridge i mean john's i'm there and i don't and i wouldn't brendan you know know how and i thought i maybe i just forgot me because we have rolled or got some very old. fire at every pan am i mean that you know i mean i think it's interesting you think it's because we're sitting sit here and now now you know as and he's now as you say is like the rule of law and we don't have the a seat because i'm. the reason is that we don't do enough of the service in the

ways i had in life the reason that the system is the way it is right now and the reason we're in this in this place with the basement right now and the reason we're in this in this place with the basements closed door you know dungeon of the senate holding the closed door you know dungeon of the senate holding a secret inquiry is create because the public is the. adults that are the flower and for it is this another one of those things that this sort of bipartisan bickering of we're going to set rules and we're here and then you can't do this is this another one of those things that this sort of partisan bickering of we're going to say isn't worth us just kind of showing how we get older and you can do that and they'll come we'll do this this way isn't this just kind of showing how it all just kind of comes back to bite them in the end when you don't actually work together when you don't actually respect that comes back to

bite them in the end when you don't actually work together when you don't actually respect the rules of the office that you're in the you know procedures of rules of the office that you're in the you know procedures of a well i mean think about who wins when there is like you said bipartisan bickering it's those those corporations well i mean think about who wins when there is like you said bipartisan bickering it's those those corporations that are funding both of those parties right it's like weapons contractors those people who want to be expanding nato and i religion's that are funding both of those parties right it's like weapons contractors those people who want to be expanding nato and i really like ben's point about you know people positioning themselves as being for or against impeachment pietschmann the lead bends point about you know people positioning themselves as being for or against impeachment pietschmann based on whether or not they like trump because i totally understand the desire to put it on whether or not they like trump because i totally understand the desire to put faith and hope in impeachment of course people want things to change so i'm not like

a. dieting based on hope and impeachment of course people want things to change so i'm not like indicting you know us citizens who like have their minds wrapped around and pitchman it totally makes sense you know they are us citizens who like have their minds wrapped around and pitchman it totally makes sense but we have to think about what kind of change is that actually going effect so really we do have to be cautious but we have to think about what kind of change is that actually going effect so really we do have to be cautious about ultimately the country becoming ungovernable that's where we're headed right now and we're becoming about ultimately the country becoming ungovernable that's where we're headed right now and we're becoming ungovernable because now you're setting up a system where anyone can be impeached for any reason at all just governable because now you're setting up a system where anyone can be impeached for any reason at all just because some group doesn't like you can lead a group that doesn't but i put the word in last week that my book or not our decision that's the problem we're not set up to be a bipartisan country were 2 parties run everything which and in fact our core set

up to be a bipartisan country were 2 parties run everything which and in fact of course just one part very good point very good point i got to say thank you all for coming on today but just one are very good point very good point i got to say thank you all for coming on today but i'm swan rachel blevins michel greenstone branch of we're always a pleasure great discussions today i'm swan rachael blevins michel greenstone branch of we're always a pleasure great discussions today and that is our show for you today remember everyone in this world we are not told the love. that is our show for you today remember everyone in this world we are not told the world loved enough so i tell you all. i wrote and enough so i tell you all. i am a robot and keep on watching all those hawks out there and have a great day. keep on watching all those hawks out there and have a great day. dissent

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