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because there's always a small for a really good this because there's always a small. really good this. across. the cross. of. a power company in california is accused of starting the devastating wildfires now raging company in california is accused of starting the devastating wildfires now raging through parts of the state. an israeli soldier through parts of the state. an israeli soldier who frankly shocked a palestinian teenager sentenced to just one month of community service will be shocked a palestinian teenager sentenced to just one month of community service we've been
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speaking to the voice about. the soldiers who didn't get out of the punishments we can speak to the boys about. the soldiers who didn't get to the punishment so his colleagues. a long overdue on the job to serve his colleagues. a long overdue on the job. and a court in the u.s. rules that embryos all property. and a court in the u.s. rules that embryos all property human lives needing to feed to debate in the u.s. . human lives needing to feed to debate in the u.s. . well those are the headlines and that's it for me the will be here with you next hour with all those in the headlines and that's it for me will be here with you next hour with the latest news from around the world and stay with us for cross-talk next here on off the international the latest news from around the world and stay with us for cross-talk next here on off the international.
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hello and welcome to cross talk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle. hello and welcome to cross talk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle dissent is being criminalized speech is being arrested just asked max dissent is being criminalized speech is being arrested just ask max blumenthal editor of the
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grey zone project and a leading investigative journalist include all editor of the grey zone project and a leading investigative journalist increasingly questioning mainstream media narratives and interrogating policymakers recently questioning mainstream media narratives and interrogating policymakers can get you banned monetized and even arrested. there's can get you banned monetized and even arrested. cross talking speech for. free. i'm just going about my. speech freedom of governance. he is a forgets ray mcgovern cernan rai cia and he only is a force and cia analyst and co. founder of veteran intelligence professionals for
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sanity in washington we have karl and co-founder of veteran intelligence professionals for sanity in washington we have carla nixon he is the co-host of the sputnik radio show fault lines with nixon and x. and he is the co-host of the sputnik radio show fault lines with nixon and stranahan and in pittsburgh we cross to dan he is an adjunct professor of law and stranahan and in pittsburgh we cross to dan he is an adjunct professor of law at the university of pittsburgh as well as author of the plot to overthrow venezuela of the u.s. at the university of pittsburgh as well as author of the plot to overthrow venezuela how the u.s. is orchestrating a coup for oil cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime he was orchestrating a coup for oil crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate great let me go to you 1st i mean i think we all know the details of my aunt and i always appreciate great let me go to you 1st i mean i think we all know the details of maximum falls arrest and the charges are bogus
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charges that he would say maximum falls arrest and the charges are bogus charges that he would say and he's contacted this program we invited him to come on but he was gone and he's contacted this program we invited him to come on but he was given legal advice that he probably shouldn't so he wanted to be here but because there is ongoing live and legal advice that he probably shouldn't so he wanted to be here but because there is ongoing litigation his lawyers told them to hold back it seems to me on its face a geisha and his lawyers told them to hold back it seems to me on its face this is a criminalization of dissent. is a prolific journal this is a criminalization of dissent. is a prolific journalist barry good one he knows this stuff he's had some great work on venezuela barry good one he knows his stuff he's had some great work on venezuela on syria on russia gate and so many other topics it looks like they're
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coming on syria on russia gate and so many other topics it looks like they're coming for max go ahead ray. well 1st a very small corrector max go ahead ray well 1st a very small correction peter you say we all know about max none of my fellow americans know but shin peter you say we all know about max none of my fellow americans know about mel you got ahead of me but i want to go back to the news stream again go ahead you're right mel you got ahead of me where i want to go after the news stream and then you go ahead you're right. i live a back off here and just say well. i live a back off here and just say well you know there's an expression the pen is mightier than the sword oh you know there's an expression the pen is mightier than the sword. now the u.s.
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government and the mainstream media have collected now the us government and the mainstream media have collected all the pens that they can but they couldn't get max blumenthal's or all the pens that they can but they couldn't get max blumenthal's or aaron mitts a tennis this is a terrific encouragement to old guys aaron mitts a tennis this is a terrific encouragement to old guys like me because the older generation half my age are come and come into they're like me because the older generation and half my age are come in come into their own they will not be stifled they will not be discouraged so what do they pay well their own they will not be stifled they will not be discouraged so what do they pay will they pay the price of being arrested and held in a bit in those jails d.c. egypt paid the price of being arrested and held in a bit in those jails d.c. jails for overnight 2 nights now what's this all about well it's intimidation over
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night 2 nights now what's this all about well it's intimidation pure and simple what people don't know is that on the 15th of action pure and simple what people don't know is that on the 15th of october john kiriakou was given the same treatment ok stover john kiriakou was given the same treatment ok squad some police cars bunch of people shackled and all that stuff so what they're trying to squad some police cars bunch of people shackled and all that stuff so what they're trying to do is i guess every 10 days pick out a real real offender in there and they do is i guess every 10 days pick out a real real offender in their in their view as somebody tells the truth and blows the whistle on cia crimes where view is somebody tells the truth and blows the whistle on cia crimes was. to be torture or overthrowing the government of
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venezuela to teach us all over the be torture or overthrowing the government of venezuela to teach us all a lesson that you can't do that that's beyond the pale well they will they won't quit the question is was the lesson that you can't do that that's beyond the pale well they will they won't quit the question is whether we'll get enough support from people who are kept in the dark about what's happened to max we'll get enough support from people who are kept in the dark about what's happened to max you know that's exactly why i'm doing this program because i'm not going to be silent this is an issue you know that's exactly why i'm doing this program because i'm not going to be silent this is an egregious offense against freedom of speech the 1st amendment and true greed is offense against freedom of speech the 1st amendment and a truly profoundly good journalist here garland weigh in on this here where are the journalistically profoundly good journalist here garland weigh in on this here where are the journalists ok i'm glad ray got ahead of me but he's absolutely right
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where is the outcry here so ok i'm glad ray got ahead of me but he's absolutely right where is the outcry here because you really have to search for it go ahead well well the journalist because you really have to search for it go ahead. well the journalists are getting locked up the journalists are in bellmawr belmarsh prison the stenographers for the didn't locked up the journalists are in bellmawr belmarsh prison the stenographers for the deep state or running around masking as a journalist masquerading as a journalist so you know the reality of state or running around masking as a journalist masquerading as a journalist so you know the reality is they're not really worried or concerned about it you know a lot of people will talk about me is they're not really worried or concerned about it you know a lot of people will talk about you know a sonder max blumenthal and say why aren't the other journalists standing up for them because i know a sonder max blumenthal and say why aren't the other journalists standing up for them because eventually their next will the reality is what we have now that's
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passing is journalism is eventually there next will the reality is what we have now that's passing is journalism isn't next you're not going to be next if you are spouting you know if you're a specific isn't next you're not going to be next if you are spouting you know if you're a spouse in the premises that the deep state want you to spells you're not going to be next so they're very very sousing the premise is that the deep state want you to spells you're not going to be next so they're very very safe i want to add this you know a lot of people don't know this in my previous career i was in law enforcement i'm dave i want to add this you know a lot of people don't know this in my previous career i was in law enforcement i was retired when i retired i was a major i was a commander of the investigations divisions so i wouldn't retire when i retired i was a major i was a commander of the investigations divisions so i would handle particular these types of incidents and i think one thing that's important to look at here is we've got handle particular these types of incidents and i think one thing that's important to look at here is we've got
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a minor incident on alleged minor incident lead if it were me when i was a commander that a minor incident on alleged minor incident lead if it were me when i was the commander of investigations division i would have simply said to the person you need to go down to the court fill out an app that's occasions division i would have simply said to the person. you need to go down to the court fill out an application for a statement of charges and mr blumenthal will be served with a summons and you can go to court there cation for a statement of charges and mr blumenthal will be served with a summons and you can go to court there was no need to take the aggressive action they did and sinned basically if there was no need to take the aggressive action that they did and sinned basically a team of officers for an unarmed person with no history of violence so that i think that's the key to understanding of officers for an unarmed person with no history of violence so that i think that's the key to understanding it seeing that the the overwhelming force that they're using against journalists with no extending it seeing that the the overwhelming force that they're using against journalists with no history of violence or doing really anything that would that would make
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them a liability history of violence or doing really anything that would that would make them a liability or a danger to police officers responding yeah dan i mean from what the accounts or danger to police officers responding yeah dan i mean from what the accounts that i've heard in this is from ben norton also at the gray zone is that i've heard in this is from ben norton also at the gray zone is that swatch or swat like officers came to swat or swat like officers came to max's residence at 9 o'clock in the morning why do you need that kind of fire axes residence at 9 o'clock in the morning why do you need that kind of fire power i mean max blumenthal is on the record of saying if you just summoned me i would have power i mean max blumenthal is on the record of saying if you just summoned me i would have shown up why do they need to use these kind of tactics here is it just
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pure intimidation shown up why do they need to use these kind of tactics here is it just pure intimidation go ahead dan yes it's pure intimidation there was no need to go ahead dan yes it's pure intimidation there. no you need to do it as a police matter again this is a 5 month old misdemeanor you it as a police matter again this is a 5 month old misdemeanor warrant that they acted upon and as you said or warrant that they acted upon and as you said they surrounded his home and it threatened to knock down his door if he didn't come they surrounded his home and it threatened to knock down his door if he didn't come out he was arrested he was shackled he was held amount he was arrested he was shackled he was held incommunicado for 36 hours not even able to call his
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own more or incommunicado for 36 hours not even able to call his own more or there was no reason for such a very there was no reason for such a. very minor charge to treat him in this way this was clearly very minor charge to treat him in this way this was clearly a politically motivated stunt to intimidate max it's a politically motivated stunt to intimidate max to intimidate journalists like max in it shameful and the other thing the chim intimidate journalists like max in it shameful and the other thing the chain will as we've touched upon is that this is getting virtually no painful as we've touched upon is that this is getting virtually no coverage in the press you know this because the mine.
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in the press you know this because the mine statement by john pilger a journalist in great britain he said what passes for journalism begin by john pilger a journalist in great britain. what passes for journalism today is anti journalism and i totally agree with you know a day is tired of journalism and i totally agree with you know i mean the message is being sent here and you have to toe the line here and i re i mean the message is being sent here and you have to toe the line here and i really want viewers of this program to take a look at some of the work that i really want viewers of this program to take a look at some of the work that the gray zone is done it's extremely good extremely professional and in the gray zone is done it's extremely good extremely professional and it pushes back against narratives that we're just fed every single
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day i mean it pushes back against narratives that we're just fed every single day i mean the work he's done on venezuela for example he goes down there all the while sick to work he's done on venezuela for example he goes down there all the while c.n.n. is say there is no toothpaste in the supermarket there's no washing powder there's knows she didn't say there is no toothpaste in the supermarket there's no washing powder there's nose shampoo people are eating their pets and then max goes into a grocery store and says well impute people are eating their pets and then max goes into a grocery store and says well there's a lot of stuff here a lot of varieties here different prices and a lot i mean what he did was it was there's a lot of stuff here a lot of varieties here different prices and all that i mean what he did was it was tongue in cheek but it was very factual at the same time i mean what they were saying on the main tongue in cheek but it was very factual at the same time i mean what they were saying on the mainstream networks was completely false ok and he has
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the audacity to stream networks was completely false ok and he has the audacity to show them up and they don't like that and the mainstream media that we to show them up and they don't like that. and the mainstream media that one of the reasons why these journalists don't say the same thing is they don't like the competition because one of the reasons why these journalists don't say it's a me thing is they don't like the competition because gray zone r t crosstalk we're getting more and more eyeballs and they don't like raise own r t cross-talk we're getting more and more eyeballs and they don't like it go ahead well that's the big danger that they perceive you know they have to go ahead. well that's the big danger that they perceive you know they have to control this sort of thing and if it takes intimidation if it takes trying to have to control this sort of thing and if it takes intimidation if it takes trying to kill john terry
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kiriakou as happened 2 years ago when they did kill john terry kiriakou as happened 2 years ago when they did a very usual sort of traffic thing to trap him in his vest you know very usual sort of traffic thing to trap him in his vest but that's what it takes for them now. we had to that's what it takes for them now. we had the head of the cia bill casey almost 40 years ago saying quote the head of the cia bill casey almost 40 years ago saying quote. we know when our decision from ation campaign we know when our decision from ation campaign is complete when everything in the american people believe is false is complete when everything in the american people believe is false period end quote
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how do i know that barbara hornick a friend of mine was there when he's period end quote how do i know that barbara hornick a friend of mine was there when he said it she immediately reported to the press so if you want the american piece at it she immediately reported to the press so if you want the american people to be obedient and know only what the mainstream media people to be obedient and know only what the mainstream media want you to hear within max blumenthal and arran matej and a lot of you want you to hear within max blumenthal and aaron matej and a lot of these young guys and ben norton who were standing up for this thing and and saying not only the truth is young guys and ben norton who are yet we're standing up for this thing and saying not only the truth about venezuela but about syria and of course a very important point about venezuela but about syria and of course a very important point now explain menthol wrote that book about the law and what
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it's really like to explore menthol wrote that book about a lot and what it's really like in israel and that put him in the doghouse with all yet with all the mainstream media of israel and that put him in the doghouse with all yet with all the mainstream media people who let's face it are unduly influenced by people who can't the people who let's face it are unduly influenced by people who can't distinguish between the objective us and the interests of israel on the one hand and of english between the object of us and the interests of israel on the one hand and of the united. states on the other you know garland i will mention all these united states and the other you know garland i will mention all these important points that the great zone and max and ben and aaron have been working on here important points of the great zone and max and ben and aaron have been working on here but these are these are 3rd rails speakers not only there's an
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interesting confluence here but these are these are 3rd rail speakers not only there's an interesting confluence here you have mainstream media that is angry that the real reporting is being done by real journalists who have mainstream media that is angry that the real reporting is being done by real journalists here and then you have policy makers that are being shown up for what they're doing all around there and then you have policy makers that are being shown up for what they're doing all around the world and with the mainstream media and let's use the term deal world and with the mainstream media and use the term deep state or the intelligence community they live off of each other and that's why they do not like people who are the intelligence community they live off of each other and that's why they do not like people like us or max go ahead garland well the other thing i said let's look at what like us or max go ahead garland well the other thing i said let's look at what happened here
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a couple weeks ago with hillary clinton you know attacking tulsi gabber for basically happened here a couple weeks ago with hillary clinton you know attacking tulsi gabber for basically being a russian it's that over her you know anti interventionist positions there to being a russian it's that over her you know anti interventionist positions there's a you know frightening and kind of insidious underlying movement there's a you know a frightening and kind of insidious underlying movement going on with that with the elitist to basically go after going on with that with the elitist to basically go after people who. are challenging any of the troops that they're putting forward and i think of a big part of it is are people who are challenging any of the troops that they're putting forward and i think of a big part of that is to to have a chilling effect on others right now you know i do a show every morning here and watch to to have a chilling effect on others right now you know i do a show every morning here in washington d.c.
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it's 3 hours it's a very it's a radio show on sputnik i've had friends of it in d.c. it's 3 hours it's a very it's a radio show on sputnik i have had friends of mine tell me oh i like to listen to your show but i'm afraid to call in because i were mine tell me oh i like to listen to your show but i'm afraid to call in because i work for the i'm a government employee where d.c. a lot of government employees i'm afraid to call in because i don't want to get in for them a government employee or d.c. a lot of government employees i'm afraid to call in because i don't want to get in trouble or i'll call in but i'm going to use a fake name because i work for the work for the rubble or i'll call in but i'm going to use a fake name because i work for the work for the government so the sad part of it is this chilling effect that they're intending overman so the sad part of it is this chilling effect that they're intending is working and i think it's a very dangerous time not just in the united states but in in the world is working and i think it's a very dangerous time not just in the united states but in in the west where this
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is this is starting to permeate throughout our entire society well you know go west where this is this is starting to permeate throughout our entire society well you know garland want to tell you it's very interesting i've been told by a number of people. and i want to tell you it's very interesting i've been told by a number of people. people that work for the u.s. state department aren't allowed to watch our t.v. i don't know what that means people that work for the u.s. state department aren't allowed to watch our t.v. i don't know what that means they can't watch it work or they can't watch it at home with they've been told you know you can't watch it work or they can't watch it at home with they've been told you know not to. watch r t. because we we tend not to watch r t. because we we tended to target them which i know but i'm so you're right ray ok i mean you know make it to target them which i know but i'm so you're right ray ok i mean you know make sure you keep the parameters of information very
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confined you know get everything has to be contrary you keep the parameters of information very confined you know get everything has to be controlled ok that's what they want do not let any sunshine in because that will control the ok that's what they want do not let any sunshine in because that will that will destroy their narrative ok i'm going to jump in here we're going to a short break and after that short break we'll continue with that will destroy their narrative ok i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the speech freedom state with our to. discussions speech freedom state with our 2.
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if these banks like j.p. morgan. if these banks like j.p. morgan are deutsche bank are unable to settle trades because they don't have the cash to settle in our deutsche bank are unable to settle trades because they don't have the cash to settle the trade then when the end of the quarter comes they're going to have to by law of the trade then when the end of the quarter comes they're going to have to by law if they. if there is the rule of law anymore and that's an open question announced that they are in so if they if there is the rule of law anymore and that's an open question announce that they are insolvent and therefore they're going to set off a cascade and a contagion. album and therefore they're going to set off a cascade and a contagion. will be
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a continuation of the 2008 crisis but much much worse will be a continuation of the 2008 crisis but much much worse. today there are good tennis and bad at it it's the bad today there are good tennis and bad at it it's the bad news in yemen the united states deems to be a threat the good of those who lose in yemen to the united states deems to be a threat the good it is those who are in syria the cia and the u.s. military were engaged in covert action but in syria the cia and the u.s. military were engaged in covert actions really throughout the world. where they were assassinating populist leads really throughout the world. where they were assassinating populist leaders they were backing up the right way military funding
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an army was yours they were backing up right with military funding an army was there's no anymore because there's always a small group there's no anymore because there's always a small. really good. profit. on a really good. profit.
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welcome back to crossfire. welcome back to where all things are considered peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing speech freedom for all things are considered peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing speech freedom. ok let's go back to dan and pittsburgh here. ok let's go back to dan in pittsburgh here i find it really truly amazing but not surprising is that the main i find it really truly amazing but not surprising is that the mainstream media will overlook one of its own smacks blumenthal actually they're not even this history media will overlook one of its own smacks blumenthal actually they're not even the same group
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the max is in a different group entirely in real journalists but you know same group the max is in a different group entirely in real journalists but you know that all of this. talk about this a whistleblower you know any of the all of this. talk about this a whistleblower you know then you have to we we have to protect whistleblowers you know this one with the ukraine and all of that well he's just a little bit we have to protect whistleblowers you know this one with the ukraine and all of that well he's just a leaker ok but there's more concern for someone that it is. ok but there's more concern for someone that it is damaging. the political process undermining. the political process undermining a duly elected president irrespective if you like trump or not this kind of behavior is it is the elected president irrespective if you like trump or not this kind of behavior is it is it is what it is that's treason here but will be will
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bill be wanting to protect the right of it is what it is that's treason here but they'll be millville be wanting to protect the rights of this person here but they don't even speak up for someone that is doing a truly good job and it's of this person here but they don't even speak up for someone that is doing a truly good job in journalism like max blumenthal all of the priorities are wrong here go ahead dan journalism like max blumenthal all of the priorities are wrong here go ahead dan yes well i i mean i think you hit the nail on the head i mean the reason they don't yes what are they i mean i think you hit the nail on the head i mean the reason they don't like max blumenthal is frankly he's a real journalist he's exposing their like max blumenthal is frankly he's a real journalist he's exposing there is serious flaws that the american people need to see is you may have serious flaws that the american people need to see as you mentioned he's exposing that there are real in american politics in there is
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the cruelty that she's exposing that there are real in american politics in there is the cruelty that is being visited upon the palestinian people for example. in the case being visited upon the palestinian people for example. in the case of this so called whistleblower the mainstream press is full of this so called whistleblower the mainstream press is falling over that individual. you know finding over that individual. you know him. that is ready for prime time because it continues information that is ready for prime time because it continues to push this narrative. of trump to push this narrative. of trump as
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some kind of stooge of mascara and his someone as some kind of stooge of mascara and as someone. who is bad on foreign policy because he wants to get out who is bad on foreign policy because he wants to get out of wars. so that individual is applauded while wars. so that individual is applauded while someone like max blumenthal who exposes things that undermines someone like max blumenthal who exposes things that undermine u.s. foreign policy and undermine u.s. intervention he is on u.s. foreign policy and undermined u.s. intervention and he is vilified or just simply ignored and that's what's happening here they want to even give vilified or just simply ignore it and that's what's happening here they want to even give him the light of day to mention that he was
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arrested and treated in the him the light of day to mention that he was arrested and treated in this way. you know i went with so nefarious about all of this with. you know i went with so nefarious about all of this and i'm glad dan brought up this point about the this is and i'm glad dan brought up this point about the ruling class the political leader always pushing one war and conflict here the ruling class the political leader always pushing one war and conflict here this. it's really sad you have a bipartisan consensus that intervention this is what's really sad you have a bipartisan consensus that intervention is a good thing and it must must never end the wars must never and the troops must never come home is a good thing and it must must never end the wars must never and the troops must never come home there's always another monster to be slayed out in the world they
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continue this name there's always another monster to be slayed out in the world they continue this narrative here and then when you have a small number of very very smart and articulate narrative here and then when you have a small number of very very smart and articulate individuals that use social media and use these platforms to really put individuals that use of social media and use these platforms to really push back you have this you have this bipartisan consensus and you have their back you have this you have this bipartisan consensus and you have their lackeys in the media that perpetuate this narrative and that's why they will lackeys in the media that perpetuate this narrative and that's why they will never talk about what happened to max movement all and probably the violation of his civil rights rape never talk about what happened to max movement all and probably the violation of his civil rights rape. bill tulsi gabbert is
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saying no more regime change wars. both tulsi gabbert is saying no more regime change wars now that's a certain has a certain resonance among americans. now that's a certain has a certain resonance among americans. who defends her were involved you know who shows how who and who defends her were all involved you know who shows how clinton is sort of going off the gun off the deep end ok so that's one charge against him to sort of gone off the gun off the deep end ok so that's one charge against him. i think stepping back here you have to go back to the old bible here king i think stepping back here you have to go back to the old bible here king about those are from babylon who is who saw the handwriting on the wall houses are from babylon who is who saw the handwriting on the wall right well the handwriting
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on the wall in this case is meant to show people write well the handwriting on the wall in this case is meant to show people like women paul and those who had the lake to him important people like woman paul and those who had the lake to him important fact there. that they had writings on the wall we're going to get you going to get both fact there. that they had writings on the wall we're going to get you going to get blumenthal 1st then we'll get you and so here is max and aaron mitts a month off 1st then we'll get you and so here is max and aaron meant to say and ben norton performing basically what julian of the energy and ben norton performing basically what julian assigned to do and bradley manning with chelsea manning and people will go to him now to do it and bradley manning or chelsea manning and people will go to him now unless he shut down now the interesting thing will be to
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see what havoc unless he shut down now the interesting thing will be to see what have the courts act to this because the courts seem to be the last resource here they have courts activists because the courts seem to be the last resource here they have thrown big big cold water on right her own. courts big big cold water on russia gate. courts bids saying look can't get a good that a guy persona something didn't happen maxes acknowledges on to that and doesn't. and with that so it's a bizarre and it's a this this is this what they were really afraid of what they really are for the american people or people who are realize hey was hey this way that. you are mission for more you are misinformed in the claimed in the classic sense this fix it bill jones bill casey bragged about. we were where. we
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were in. the 1981 you know darlin you know you and i are in the same line of business you do radio i do television you know darlin you know you and i are in the same line of business you do radio i do television. what is your sense of why these journalists do not. what is your sense of why these journalists do not react to this what why have they abandoned their profession what what is it for them is it just react to this what why have they abandoned their profession what what is it for them is it just celebrity as that money is it vanity is it celebrity as that money is it vanity is it trying to score points i mean what is it i mean i've i've made a number of it trying to score points i mean what is it i mean i've i've met a number of western journalists over the years privately one on one and they don't
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like western journalists over the years privately one on one and they don't like hard questions at all they said well you know how it is peter i would say what i know tell me the hard questions at all they said well you know how it is peter i would say what i know tell me how it is ok because i don't understand what you guys are doing but how it is ok because i don't understand what you guys are doing but equally you all repeat the same talking points do you guys get the same memo everybody equally you all repeat the same talking points do you guys get the same memo every morning i don't get a memo from amy buddy ok i mean from your perspective morning i don't get a memo from amy buddy ok i mean from your perspective as a journalist i mean how do you how do you explain their behavior and why are they the end tip as a journalist i mean how do you how do you explain their behavior and why are they the antithesis of max blumenthal go ahead garland well and this is max
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blumenthal go ahead darling. well and here's the difference max blumenthal is an investigative journalist and that he's searching to find the and there's a difference max blumenthal is an investigative journalist and that he's searching to find the answer these are people who in my opinion are searching to move up in there are these are people who in my opinion are searching to move up in their you know field of employment basically so they're looking at people who you know they see though field of employment basically so they're looking at people who you know they see the 3rd rails and they see what happens to people like tolls you gabbert or 3rd rails and they see what happens to people like tolls you gabbert or you know in the instance of journalism actually lumen thought and the message is clear to them if you want to or you know in the instance of journalism actually luminol and the message is clear to them if you want to move up if you want to get that 10 or
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$12000000.00 a year you got to be like rachel maddow move up if you want to get that 10 or 12 $1000000.00 a year you got to be like rachel maddow and you got to scream russia and putin 10 times you know every every 5 minutes and if you want to lose your job and go to jail you've. got so the matter that's just been simmering russia and putin 10 times you know every every 5 minutes and if you want to lose your job and go to jail you're like max lu and also the messages being sent to these people and it's clear this is about change what i call these people and it's clear this is about change what i call you know what i consider a total change in american media where they have pretty much you know what i consider a total change in american media where they have pretty much they don't have to get an email or a fax anymore from the cia they just put the they don't have to get an e-mail or a fax anymore from the cia they just put the people that write the middles of the facts as they hire them and put them on t.v.
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so my position is people that write the middles of the facts as they hire them and put them on t.v. . so my position is what we're calling media now is something totally different we even need a different name for it it's what we're calling media now it's something totally different we even need a different name for it it's we're looking at public relations operations for big corporations for the military industrial complex we're looking at public relations operations for big corporations for the military industrial complex and for the for the government and it's time we start calling them out for what they are complex and for the for the government and it's time we start calling them out for what they are you know again i guess i'm kind of going to date myself with my question for you here but you know you know dan i guess i'm kind of going to date myself with my question for you here but you know when i was growing up it was liberals who were always suspicious of power so speaking when i was growing up it was liberals who were always suspicious of power suspicious of the cia suspicious of
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the f.b.i. suspicious of law enforcement in general now they're all in bed with each other you know you see this clashes of the cia suspicious of the f.b.i. suspicious of law enforcement in general now they're all in bed with each other you know you see this clapper and brad brad on on t.v. deal with all the time to make make money i mean you know this you know this is such a key sick marriage in the hellhole that they're just one now that one is an extension of the other marriage in the hellhole that they're just one now that one is an extension of the other now and that is why i mean i'm a conservative ok and matthew miller now and that is why i mean i'm a conservative ok and max blumenthal and his guys are they're progressive to the left ok but they get this one right to call in his guys sort of their progressive to the left ok but they get this one right they get this right and that's what
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makes it angers. they get this right and that's what makes it angers. condominium of the media and the intelligence community a go ahead dan. minium of the media and the intelligence community go ahead dan. yeah robert a lot of this we saw our really come into focus in reality a lot of this we saw our really come into focus and really accelerate with this phony russia gate narrative you know. accelerate with this phony russia gate narrative you know which has pushed a lot of liberals in the thinking in she said that the cia which has pushed a lot of liberals and into thinking it she said that the cia and the f.b.i. is their friend when we know that both of those organizations in the f.b.i. is there fran when we know that both of those organizations have. repressed
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movement for social issues have oprah asked and repress movement for social change both in the united states and in other countries and yet now they're being glorified ange both in the united states and in other countries and yet now they're being glorified in again this phony russia gate narrative help that to happen and again this phony russia gate narrative help that to happen it only could have happened because the media has been so when it only could have happened because the media has been sort of uniform in pushing it and not questioning questioning it uniform in pushing it and not questioning questioning it i think we are to very low point in american journalism without question i think we're at a very low point in american journalism without question in the. other quite
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a few you know why are journalists question in in the. other quite a few you know why are journalists. question image things because you're not going to be a journalist for long if you do watch things because you're not going to be a journalist for long if you do question that you know max blumenthal started his own lesson that you know max blumenthal started his own web page his own media outlet to get these views that he's barely eating at a level page his own media outlet to get these views that he's barely eking out a living and doing it and that's because he is telling the truth he is living and doing it and that's because he is telling the truth he is the baby's in very difficult questions and he can without any reward that he moves with the babies in very difficult questions and he can without being rewarded so that he will be punished in general a slur on the sorts of lessons very quickly punt in general
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a slur on the sorts of lessons very quickly and you have to be very clear and you have to be willing to sacrifice to get clean and you have to be very for and you have to be willing to sacrifice to get that without there's not many journalists like that who are willing to do that. without there's not many journalists like us who are willing to do that ira i saw you nodding your head why are you agreeing. well all i can say is a man saw you nodding your head why are you agreeing. well all i can say is amen to a dentist said but i'd like to add that you know this is vicious men to a dentist said but i'd like to add that you know this is vicious playing for keeps . when it comes out. playing for keeps. when it comes out from the special prosecutor and from the eye of the justice system from the
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special prosecutor and from the eye of the justice department that brennan clapper komi were all lying through their teeth partment that brennan clapper komi were all lying through their teeth. is going to hell to pay if the american people are informed about it. there's going to hell to pay if the american people are informed about it yet now who is going to form the about it max blumenthal aaron might say yeah now who is going to form the about it max blumenthal aaron meant to say ben norton and there are enough people now that follow them that ben norton and there are enough people now that follow them that they're perceived as a danger and so they're viciously treated and i've been in that jail in d.c. they're perceived as a danger and so they're viciously treated and i've been in that jail in d.c. i know what it's like now they never when they did put chakales on me once but only
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for about an hour i know what it's like now they never they did put chakales on me once but only for about an hour almost 2 days in shackles i mean there's no excuse for that and almost 2 days in shackles i mean there's no excuse for that and i dearly hope that max has a good lawyer because the judge should throw this thing i dearly hope that max has a good lawyer because the judge should throw this thing out and should penalize the people who did this the people who authorized the people who sent them out and should penalize the people who did this p. . who authorized the people who sent the d.c. police into into max's. home with d.c. police into into max's. home even to to raid it and then get whatever information they can even to to raid it and then get whatever information they can from this is beyond the pale but that's playing for keeps and
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the debt dyess caution from this is beyond the pale but that's playing for keeps and the debt dyess cost the cash and if these people do their job brushed the cash and if these people do their job brian bryant or durham i should say and harlan bryant or durham i should say and horowitz and dear j. and bill barr and the partner justice. j. and bill barr and the partner justice if trump doesn't wimp out like he has in the past these guys are going to get if trump doesn't wimp out like he has in the past these guys are going to go to jail well we certainly hope so i wonder what i think it's the it'll be easy it's easy for me to i'm a child always that's certainly hope so i wonder what i think it's the it'll be easy it's easy for me to imagine them in orange last 30 seconds goes to you garland
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go ahead. in them in orange last 30 seconds goes to you garland go ahead. what these people don't understand is their power is in their anonymity their strength is in people not what these people don't understand is their power is in their anonymity their strength is in people not knowing what they do but nothing makes the tree grow like pruning it they're trying to cut knowing what they do but nothing makes a tree grow like pruning it they're trying to cut people off at the root and that's going to cause people to push back more and to want to know what they're trying to people off at the root and that's going to cause people to push back more and to want to know what they're trying to hide i think ultimately this comes back to bite them in the butt and that it's going to expand i think ultimately this comes back to bite him in the butt and that it's going to expand. independent media rather than rather than make it smaller good point there it's all the independent media rather than rather than make it smaller good point there that's all the time we have general and many thanks and i guess in raleigh washington and in pittsburgh
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and thanks to our viewers for what time we have gentlemen many thanks to my guests in raleigh washington and in pittsburgh and thanks to our viewers for watching us here arche see you next time and remember crossed rules. watching us here are to see you next time and remember crossed rules. during the great depression. during the great depression which almost remember that it was most of the family working glitchy old enough to remember that it was most of the family were working. there with us and it was you
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know much worse objectively. but it wasn't it was bed you know much worse objective listen to day but there was an expectation of the things were going to get better. there was a but there was an expectation that things were going to get better. of there was a real sense of hopefulness there isn't today today's america where shape but a real sense of hopefulness there isn't today today's america was shaped by the 10 principles of concentration of wealth and power. by the 10 principles of concentration of wealth and power. reduce democracy attack solo doubt it reduce democracy attack solo doubt engineer elections manufacture consent and other principles engineer elections manufacture consent and other principles according to no i'm jones one set of
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rules for the rich according to no i'm jones one set of rules for the rich opposites. that's what happens when you put opposites. that's what happens when you put her into the hands of a narrow sector of will power into the hands of a narrow sector of will which will is dedicated to increasing power for itself just as you'd expect one of which will is dedicated to increasing power for itself just as you'd expect one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern some most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization of america. the realization of america.
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what. all of the. good politicians to do something to. put themselves on the line. to get us to do something. they put themselves on the line. to get accepted over checked. so when you want to be fuzzy fix up the reject. so when you want to be fuzzy. or somehow want to breast. cancer why to be pressed for some who want to breast. cancer why the price is what the forecast for in the morning can be good for. interest is what the forecast for in the morning can be good for. i'm interested always in the waters of our. question always in the waters of our. question. from.
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the from. the from. hi there i'm max kaiser this is the kaiser report the war. there i'm max kaiser this is the kaiser report the world's economy is rolling toward bifurcation
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their old economy is rolling toward bifurcation there's a word to look up on your funkin to waggle stacy yes of course we were to look up on your funkin to waggle. yes of course we've been talking about that for quite a few years that cantillon effect at the top the one percent get to but then talk about that for quite a few years that cantillon effect at the top the one percent get to benefit from all the money printing their asset prices go up with their property or their cent if it from all the money printing their asset prices go up with their property or their stock portfolio austerity for the bottom 99 percent and we really see stock portfolio austerity for the bottom 99 percent and we've really seen that and the global insurrection against banker occupation starting to rise up again we're reporting that and the global insurrection against banker occupation starting to rise up again we reported that you queen that phrase giago back in 20092010 dirtier
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than that ukraine that phrase giago back in 2009 in 2010 during the many op risings and protests around the world we started to see so i just wanted to follow bring them many op risings and protests around the world we started to see so i just wanted to follow up on our interview with dmitri orloff because i think that in fact a lot of these on our interview with dmitri orloff because i think that in fact a lot of these protests are indeed genuine of course other nations and sort of protests are indeed genuine of course other nations and sort of players and geo political players and great powers and stuff trying to intervene but in fact of players and geo political players and great powers and stuff trying to intervene but in fact if you saw it like over a 1000000 protesters demand chill a president if you saw it like over a 1000000 protesters demand chill a president resignation he's a billionaire he's i'm opposed to austerity and people don't resignation he's
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a billionaire he's i'm opposed to austerity and people have had enough. and we've had protests in lebanon we've had had enough. and. we've had protests in lebanon we've had protests in haiti we've had protests in egypt and spain so to us in haiti we've had protests in egypt and spain so a lot of them are about this global insurrection and get longer acceleration against banker occupation a lot of them are about this global insurrection and get all the acceleration against banker occupation that's what we call it we said and you know they got over there. that's what we call it we said and you know they got over there it's what i call i came up with a new metaphor it's the stone blower you know that with a stone blower of a car came up with a new metaphor it's the stone blower you know that with a stone blower.

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