getting to speak with listen to this video clip here gentlemen let's go play god for the deep state. i think you know everyone here has seen this progression of diplomats and intelligence officers and white house people trooping up to capitol hill right now and saying these are people who are doing their duty or responding to a higher call. high your call claim. he's making a reference to people get it or unelected. and also telling us that these elected officials they have the right and even obligation maybe even moral obligation to disagree in obstruct elected official the president of the united states well that's been part of the development of this narrative about the deep state that is 1st that has existed and now it's recognized so yes it does exist but it's a good thing because it's a good thing it helped us so well there is good because it helped to put

a check on trumped his successes and i don't believe that's what we have congress for and that's what we have the courts for exactly and that's the thing because this ng and you know this really standing up for the constitution and the american people however the american system over it has a check on power that i don't have 6 i could branch which you have the legislative and the judiciary so what this really could even see in the media is also those of you know 4th of. the recognizing that this is a 4th branch of power that is. going to be conceptualized as being this bureaucracy or intelligence services so you're a cia n.s.a. f.b.i. and if they have a role in order to put a check on the disruption of trump now this is obviously problematic for a lot of reasons one for one try to stay here i'm just going to let that us of this stop there he said you don't want to renegotiate their thing all our economic deals . nato is perhaps obsolete. they want to get rid of the wars so the purpose of this

4th branch of power the deep state would be to maintain the status quo or thomas friedman like the status quo they see that ok then what do we need elected officials for i mean if they're already in charge they're going to be making the decisions why do we need to elect officials i mean it seems to me that they know they claim to know better and if we accept them as a 4th branch then we're just going to have presidents that will mimic their talking points i mean this is a serious moment here well we had friends we have to say we can't be naive we have deep state always in all kinds of powers and kingdoms and they always have been a mean and manipulating what this does different is that there is trying to subvert the will of the people ok i think we all know that presidents and prime ministers and all the western world they do there is pressure from the intelligence community and sometimes that's a good thing but when they think that they know better than elected officials that

is a dangerous point certainly indicate what i was criticized about so-called democracies that claim that democracy is to descant deep state and of course from when you go back into conspiracy theories which we were. well always listening to about as a nation of john f. kennedy for instance had you said in the sixty's to read that there was a conspiracy about it you know it would have been blasphemy now for 250 years later we can talk about the involvement of the deep state of killing. i would just say that what is quite of the interesting now is to learn to legitimize sation of the deeps is not denying it but run it bring it right up there and you see this for example the lot of the media on the left all the liberals now are you know putting in the intelligence service this is a hiring them. in the media and also when trump actually went against the intelligence community this was again it was this was blustery how can you possibly these are the you know they're not their job isn't this information they're truth

tellers and how could it possibly will deny all this or to sell it in a 2nd with samantha power ok good you know well i think that we should all remember who the person east he was deputy cia director during. school he claimed in 2000 to 2003 that iraq had weapons of mass destruction and that was if we believe him institutional commitment to objectivity and. to a higher court. so the point is that this system you know if they had been serving the state you know that he should utilize all that you can if you're going to lie in the name of the state but the result was disastrous iraq is not loyal to the united states iraq let the russian police do syria iraq is basically ignored not given its oil to the united states but to a lot of companies including russia and what's. in syria don't fail or because they

not only didn't change the regime in syria they will show off and they're like so these deep state besides being very cruel it's also very ineffective it's against american national media it's against american initial interest i want to address this to both of you i think we need to stress a point that glenn has brought up here what i find really disturbing is how the liberal media is giving legitimacy to this in giving cover too because when we go to the deep state because we know that the origins of russia gate will be revealed to us we have durham we have a g. bar we have a number of reports coming in it seems to me that they are preempting this because the truth sayers on c.n.n. in m.s.m. b.c. are going to be true be shown to be liars and probably. people who have committed criminal offenses i think this is a well this really is already going we don't know that and i said well i don't know the rate but one of the saying is that they're circling the wagons and using

american metaphor because well if the purpose of the state is to put a check on the president one must ask well what is the policy then of this in this in the intelligence community and that's very much committed to maintaining the status quo so. there's no one who is actually you know elected them can remove them and to a large extent this prevents any dramatic change such as getting out of the long term wars and i think you're correct with more and more openness about this you know we have this leaks now which is posted in new york times where they say well they're actually trying to prohibit. restrict some of the information i guess to trump or now in syria what we take the oil and that's a way of staying there so you see more and more influence on behalf of the deep state or us in the strait of state and. again i think there's i think we all remember it was only. i think a little more than a week ago when hillary clinton came out from her long walks in the in the in the

force i came out and really dissed. assaulted on twitter. by an anti-war candidate and it seems to me that is coordinated all of these things are coordinated you have the deep state you have the media and they had to pile on because she represents she's a disruptor as well she said disruptor in the democratic party like trump was in the republican party and you saw the piling on anti-war pulling back from this imperial reach is something that is completely forbidden and you will be punished in public for it well and as you just mentioned the media of course the media has their impact there as well and of course you can question whether some of the media is maybe part of the deep state this is where i would go and say they are trying to impeach president of the united states that has never happened and never never been completed resigned or survived like mr clinton survived his affair but i remember

that he for 2 weeks before the affair broke he had resisted bombing devices on no fly zone in iraq no after the impeachment process started he suddenly was willing to bomb a little of course nixon when he finished the vietnam war obviously he went against the deep state as well and it's really interesting that the only time the deep state seems to like trump is when he's bombing someone ok we saw that because they said it was normal it was really presidential and n.b.c. news said look at all those beautiful missiles ok and again the deep state in the media or in lockstep where i just i would like to remind our viewers that just as you said just a few months ago a new one who objected to their mainstream media in the united states was called either a conspiracy theorist or special and there are very few of us at that time i said would make. spears that point but you know people wake up and now.

that this is the truth and what are they serving i mean they're not sure in the state they're 7 and i do or which. and the problem with that ideology is that unlike nazis it doesn't recognize and name for itself it doesn't name itself they just say we are the free world we are the normal countries why doesn't russia become a normal country. and you see how more and more. hypocritical terrorism's have become the nazis were put you know like we will go in subjugate all of these one dimension you know the communist talked about brit variants you know but everyone in the end understood what they were up to and now we have the system which 1st claimed that would just say even if your genes you know we're getting rid of weapons of mass destruction in iraq you know then saying yes there was a deep state and there is a deep state and we will do whatever we can see

a nexus to anything untoward and with it what is nobody actually the we should give we should bow down we should. except for the good wisdom of the deep state that's what the media's message is 30 seconds before we're going to break thank you then i think that's the key problem is it's not whether or not well sometimes it dips it might be a good thing sometimes my 2 bad thing but the fact that there's a saying you know this like a democratic oversight or you know the whole murkiness of them none of this matters now because of the goodness they're doing so if you think they're doing good or bad surely this emergence of this for a 4th branch of power should be a concern should be a concern more than a concern way to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news today with our team. what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line they get accepted or

rejected. so when you want to be president. or some want to listen. to the right person this is what. 3 of the people. interested in the war. i'm going to fulfill it purposes probably to the people. you know we've all pots the truth. really.

if you want to work. no. all. thousands of american men and women choose to serve in the country's military and the decision. every song came to a complete. the day that i was right to be instructed you know told a shot to kill me and i see how it destroyed my life any screamed at me and he made me come in the gram my arm and he write me with his birth. if you take into account that women don't report because of the extreme retaliation and it's probably somewhere near about half

a 1000000 women have now been sexually assaulted in the us military rape is a very very traumatizing tat happen but i've never seen trauma like i've seen from women who are veterans who have suffered military sexual trauma reporting rape is more likely to get the victim punished and be offended and almost 10 year career which i was very invested in and i give a sex offender who has no. even put to justice or put on the registry this is simply an hour in violence male sexual predators for the large part of target whoever is there whether that's a man or woman. welcome back across the uk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news.

ok gentlemen let's switch gears here samantha power the former. american ambassador to the united nations came out with an op ed piece in the new york times and it was about the house of representatives recognizing the genocide had been committed against the armenian people by the autumn and turks and it's been a very controversial issue the u.s. has been has been very careful with this issue because turkey is a nato ally but things have changed and although there are 2 things i mean the timing of it's in very important here and some of the things that she said which i think i would like to highlight here the resolution meaning the resolution the house passed matters hugely to american armenians of course but it is also a reminder of how important truthtelling is to american foreign policy this is some out the power of truth telling well and how alternately self-defeating it is for the united states to bend to autocratic pressures pressure tactics with rather from

turkey or anyone else but she never talks about the pressure tactics that the u.s. uses around the world on an everyday basis what about the timing head well the timing of course is interesting also the active suggests that the u.s. like all countries which is a reasonable point of view is that they have to balance their strategic interest with their values but the what she said just now is that you know america's small caucus it's called. business really has come 1st and this allows america to rediscover the power of telling the truth but there the timing of course is interesting because it's this suddenly we're like what what what what would have caused this and it seemed that why all the sudden telling the truth now we're going to get it always be the case of 105 years might be speculating but it does seem it would be a punishment of turkey and this is all from how great powers would use values and ideas and moral to that is you know if you align yourself with the great power then you will look to other way if they if you go against them then they will hold you accountable and so it's not so much truth telling us using human rights democracy

and angelus anyway diminishes diminishes the resolution itself it diminishes the historical fact of genocide jumping well i think that some of the poll gave us a clue why she said that that particular this particular moment let's read the article although turkish officials may see the vault as retaliation for turkey's brutus all over america nato protests over russian air defense system simply these reduce the impact of turkish blackmail well the joint distribution of them were right if they suspect it's that this is somehow connected to the purchase all of this for hundreds and for there are the problems that the united states has with turkey they will be 100 percent right you know and i'm sure it's a very interesting new understanding by someone from poland on their own their

rights if you go against the united states anything in your ancestors deed 100 years ago 200 years ago may be used against you see if you did you know the story with cut in message when polish officers were executives on study and sort of take police and russia admitted that what point is that when american and british officials keep pushing that story again. russian's the last person who participated in this massacre in 1901 you know it was 86 years old so the current generation doesn't have anything to do with it you know and russia apologized and you know went to cutting but they keep pushing that story not because people like some of the power concerned about these executive officers or about armenians what i did at geneseo but the use it for political me for political means because her memoir that has recently come out i mean she she in barristers' herself with her or her reflections upon what she was involved in when it comes to yemen and it's

a complete whitewash here so again we we see the cheapening of morality here ok and i agree i have no problem with the u.s. house of representatives recognizing the historical fact of the genocide against the armenians but i'm i'm insulted morally how it is being used as a political cudgel well it is the same as we experience as germans. of course we have to commemorate the victims of the nazis fascism and of the world war. but if someone is using it in a way to push for a policy change i think that is trampling on the graves of those who suffered and lost their lives and so i think we have to be reasonable and don't use it for day to day politics we are not talking about how many native americans were killed. settle everybody who came so if we count all of these we don't know who.

so i was. rather. sober way to look at history and not use it as a new form for day to day politics harrowing i think the people who should be most insulted by what happened are loons because they're being used politically you know . sure. that she will immediately get all the support you know her memoir is called and educational when i did just this is an idealist who has been weakened by kind of play the years before revealing something that was all b.s. you know and of course i think a lot of it means they won't buy it because it is sold ok i want to switch gears here or something but it's really important is happening and we have both russian officials coming out saying that. the possible renewal of the start arms control agreement is it's there isn't enough time before it comes in 2021 in

as i said earlier to you glenn is that bolton is gone but bolton is and remains here it's not it's not enough coverage is given to this i think it's very very important it's a last a large important control agreement from the cold war in the u.s. is shown no interest whatsoever to renegotiated or even extended and it's should worry many because i think we're going to almost a used to having this nuclear they. were no longer having this very disruptive nuclear confrontation about that seems to be unraveling very quickly again we step by step a lot of this cold war nuclear agreements arms control agreements have been falling apart and this is not nothing in the pipeline to replace them and seemingly russia is a bit worried that this is the last one falling apart and it will unleash a lot of other predictability of the armenian community i.m.f. now start in again discuss it previously on this program and initially my thought

is proceed towards the american position in terms of having to renegotiate a lot of them because the world us changed the technologies of change there's a lot of reasons why one of their players only china and now we're having a new weaponry coming along as well so on one hand states do want to take a bit of that. upgrade their arms and also have to include china which wasn't there before about all the other. this this idea that you will ever thing and then hope you can put something to back back to get later on it seems unlikely this deal's common. agreements in place after a huge crisis so it seems that this is right they were heading we're going to go towards. military standoff and that would create the impetus for you know it's really interesting we need we look at the trumpets the great disruptor but in a way when it comes to arms control the lack of these agreements is the disruption itself and i think that you know glenn is absolutely right we're going into

uncharted waters here we have a vastly improved technology and for these horrific weapons here we should be talking arms control now more than ever before but it's not happening you know but you see there even though they're not covered at all their arms like the via logical and chemical weapons and all the. i mean for instance of the earthquake or whatever and they can create from it natural disasters all that was not covered bodies to reduce and you know no i think it was more important whether their leaders as a more left leaning on those i must say i find it difficult to applaud to a president like mr trump but he actually has probably better than any arms control or because he's starting to withdraw troops and well he's charlie he's trying to do it i mean this is this goes back to the 1st part of our conversation here i mean whatever his inclinations are and he's not a studied man when it comes to foreign policy it is obvious as glenn has pointed

out somebody whispered in his ear what about the oil in the trump clung to that again it was very very clumsy unsophisticated and i think it goes against his own instinct what i wanted to say and i forgot in the 1st part of the program is that public opinion is behind trump's inclination to withdraw all troops around the world and these wars. you have this terrible torrent of misinformation from the mainstream media you know immediately after trump announced that he was withdrawing the troops they started this narrative oh he betrayed the kurds the kurds are going to be exterminated nothing happened actually to the could they were not exterminated you know there is a new process going on but look at the kind of its foreign policy russia is the only winner in syria although you know in germany tromp makes need tool to a toy army you know this is. someone who came to discuss and sound one

who interviewed putin probably a dozen times and he says all drowned gave up to putin and we can only start understanding the seriousness of the situation so you have these torrent of misinformation you know that public opinion may be for withdrawing the troops but these people look they have no access to the movie and the media is pushing this narrative you know that which is completely wrong i mean nato is still even the european nato allies they spend 4 times more than russia on weapons how can you call it that only. you know the united states is stealing syria can control you all and no we read in the new york times that trump is using it probably for political leverage over syria imagine that i came to your apartment just to offer something and then i see this is not a fair i mention it but for political leverage against you i will give you back your mind if you believe formation age is over there has been there for thousands

of me to thousands to to destabilize and overthrow the syrian government and a half 1000000 people are that the illegally occupied the country and yet the outrage is that they're living from an illegal occupation of a foreign country and the media somewhat relieved that at least trump said he would take the oil as a. stating that you know this is going to go the moral argument over there the interesting thing is that with the smuggling of syrian oil outside of the country it's a violation of the sanctions the us itself the un syria and when it comes to all the ladies were there are better than what they were the ones breaking the sanctions themselves here 10 seconds you could make it out this is not what this is part of the problem with why they have put himself in a difficult position so this. company wrong out of from the north that's obvious a lot of problems with it but but you can see also where it comes from the title it's difficult when there is

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