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lonia lism capitalism in the so-called cold war nobel literature laurie attorney morrison died at the age of 88 this week here is the author of beloved destroying the idea that the so called cold war was ever called the consequences of becoming a democracy are out there. we emphasize that part but we're also a major capitalist capitalistic lee formed country. and that's true of all of europe i mean you know the slaves come home from plantation the war is still going on the cold war that keep talking about these years of peace peace what peace they've been fighting 30 years of wars else where all the blood was in the world. a confrontation with russia a confrontation with communism it was no nuclear explosion there were no you know there was not but they still thought well one flashpoint of the so-called cold war
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was china's war within the year of a kashmir and after this week's delhi decision to seize control of the disputed jammu and kashmir region i'm joined now from delhi bioterror pradesh m.p. from india's ruling b j p party dr subramanian swamy severe money of thanks for coming back on our some 40 up 240000 people died since 9087 in conflict that india now has total control what exactly is going on there because landlines are being cut of mobile phones everything is being cut of journalists can't get there. my party associates on the ground which. i think is funny. and this all quiet nothing apennine the revolve and that's where the expectation will still and of course on this and more until the collapse of all this the fuse lifted we will know for sure but i. guess that nothing will.
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because you probably know that pakistan's prime minister imran khan has compared your party to the not the party under hitler. it's sure you must have been told what to speak by the military that don't mean i don't take anything so seriously well i will be thinking to the bugs bunny i commissioner did delhi consult with maging before hand before making this announcement where i don't see a new world console in the on the specifics because they only matter this. walking i do need to staging a meeting amendments in our prostitutes. we might say to them that follow the constitution these are the. this is going to cost us and. we are always subject to challenge in the court by those who don't like this i doubt that we were called because none of their business already it's affecting india isn't it
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the foreign ministry of china said this week the indian side has continued to undermine china's territorial sovereignty by unilaterally amending its domestic laws this practice is unacceptable for get pakistani nuclear weapons china obviously have nuclear weapons too what exactly has india achieved so far by this universe after all decision for direct rule of jammu and kashmir and that region of we have to comply with the promise we made to the public of india that really more this nonsensical. put on the cost of tuition of india. we are going to conduct a lawsuit too since we can't. to differ laws on the whole concept of the way and don't want to lose part of the quality of genders that is men and women that's also a fundamental right not to 14 with prostitution so we have just gone plied with the promises the made to the election yeah but it's been in the manifesto before in the
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media be never did it do you think i mean you you're old enough totally to remember the war with china in 162 i don't know do you think you'll be j.b. colleagues remember that the backside chin is part of gin jango turn province according to beijing but that's what this is. we are always hopeful that plea negotiations. to their mind and dad are some things which they're not able to explain in the east and sided with much of the battle took place in 62. they say that we want to accept imperialist online but they're there and don't know that you know and signed agreement with. i and mark those days are exactly stating that it except at one line the international boundary between all child. 'd my mother you see far from british colonialism and you've been on the
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show talking about that before is the b j p far from being a nationalist party being a poodle of washington party you know donald trump wants to attack china economically through the trade war the b j p is doing exactly what washington once india to do to stop the repression more of delhi in may june well that's not quite correct. the americans are we adding with us there now i think pakistan part of it also is russia and the americans or that it was that you were being the taliban. and months the americans leave afghanistan the taliban with me. so we are in fact the one in one sense securing ourselves for the future course of libya fighting the taliban ok but i mean given trump was lying when he said when meeting with pakistani prime minister imran khan that india had asked him to negotiate the kashmir situation well i don't
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know the more decent slogans it too he would never sit at a woman. in jest so i think probably the all indian accent up was all on the limb or even have been misunderstood by a truck with there's no question of having americans or anybody else that negotiate what is are simply out in ringback 'd occupation by the standards to the media p. they just can't see that there are people in washington who would be happy to see the revocation of article 370 so that there are tensions between india and china well i think any democrat almost constitutional principles are going to be in a class that we took so long that indians do not invest in coaching it is the most part we do and we would like that to develop it as it goes but my point barrow is reportedly trumpeting the anti china us alliance what did you make of the fact that
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the us has even allowed india to use the poor to their own the port. in iran not something that allows other countries to do when it comes to iran the royal navy is patrolling near there where we are we never asked american. she our country only a lot of them would be muslim and so. we think we should be friends with the run of the sea as we did india are very well supported in the community here and i can tell you what i am are considered a friend of china. in both india china and i don't see all the chinese degree joe now using beyond what they want to demonstrate about islam but they've said it's unacceptable i presume you've checked with the i still have a visa for china me if i do need it i suppose the be j.p.
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law is that economic development in kashmir will also curb terrorism in the region the 77 attacks in london so they say were committed by people trained in kashmiri terrorism camps is india ready for the response from hardline is the mis who knows coming from syria let alone. afghanistan to attack india in the installations where it was the world let me tell you we don't think it is and if you do the economics. it's madness yes we teach it as it might mess but the people who question you have been denied development and it's a beautiful place it should be developed and the reason is that nobody wants to go invest it with all this article to 70 and it's its implications that's why we are the way that we. are and as followers of the city ends and all.
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needs a lot of the wall built or looked up at one side or reality for the subject of this well anyone smile and no one can give in go digimon come in kashmir right now the tourists are all thrown out and everyone was arrested as far as we know all the leaders there is that next for nagaland mizoram a some man a poor goa is they are going to cut off the internet for all the phones and then going to directly rule those areas of india the list of the problem gets you 71 has got nothing to do no not similar. to the $71.00 is that forest land of tribals cannot be acquired this is not voicing our indian standard settle their. there's no question remains ongoing invest there there's no such distinctions as well not about isn't at all well the truth of ministration would you probably dispute is is happy with this decision we've heard nothing from russia particularly we have heard from china which says it's unacceptable what do you think is the reason why no arab
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country has attacked your party your government and your country for this decision as if there's some dark and outer quality to our most 'd supportive as you may be as if i formally issue 'd. my statement of support and you know this all the unity out allows only one country to fly all the good news is that it is a nation that the media in which libs are actually in the all of the parts of the government we have we have all seen our intelligence bureau offices or most of those were actually that muslims have been president we are mad muslims in the majority states as sheep ministers furthermore our education doctor was medical tourism i mean so many arabs are blocked at sea for medical treatment and are going to say to pakistan which looks like a marquee put together that there probably pockets. you know as for parts pulling
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at different actions the blue cheese typical needs the cyndi's and the domination of the punjabi says something that all of them does it but how long before the indian government allows journalists into this area again and the phones to work whether it landline withered be the internet whether it be mobile phones well that sharks moderns it is the meeting this situation is it is normal no mendicant but i would suspect it will be more then to be beaks and you're not expecting any un security council resolution against india to be passed after all article $370.00 was in tandem with the. un resolution as i go on i'll adopt. it as i do so get nothing. that's also an illegal to sing fight about to go along to do that song. and. also
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it was mentions of we do. and you expect protests in kashmir because as i say the journalists are there to cover the fact that whether there are protests all this week yeah. but good looking that that they're focused a lot but you don't see for yourself i don't think people want to see and all my friends. say we won moments. and now that we have got it clearly indicates that india has no intention whatsoever to let go even into question including the part which is illegally being. dr subramanian swamy thank you. after the break we go to pakistan's high commission in london to get the other side of the story as pakistan's leader says genocide will be next for the people of kashmir all the more coming over but you're going underground.
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we were told there was no such thing as the deep state now we're told to ignore it also arms control is dying we should all be worried and concerned and why samantha power. thousands of american men and women choose to serve in the country's military and the decision that has shattered lives every function till a complete. the day that i was right to be instructed here you know told to shut up what they kill me and i see how it destroyed my life any screamed at me and he made me come in the gram my arm and he raped me with his birthing if you take into account that women don't report because of the extreme retaliation and it's
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probably somewhere near about half a 1000000 women have now been sexually assaulted in the us military rape is a very very traumatizing tat happening but i've never seen trauma like i've seen from women who are veterans who suffered military sexual trauma reporting rape is more likely to get the victim punished than the offender and almost 10 year career which i was very invested in and i gave that up to report a sex offender who was not even going to justice or put on the registry this is simply an issue of our in violence male sexual predators for the large part of target whoever is there to prey upon whether that's a man or woman. welcome back and what we got from the b j p in the pakistani high commission in london with the pakistani high commissioner the fees the korea commission of letting us into this building again i'm going to ask you to start off what is going to do kind of actually do anything
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we've taken by surprise thank you very much actually as you might be over this. is an internationally recognized dispute and it has the un security council resolutions on this starting for a 7th records and those. details of his lucian's the major elements of those units are going as delusions are. they give the right of self-determination to the kashmiris they have to decide under a u.n. supervised plebiscite as to what they want to do if that's what they're for a chance a resolution but no article $370.00 of the year actually it usually does the point being made by well you have to see that things in context actually in the in the perspective because i'm coming to that point because that is very much relevant to that which you just mention because the unity council resolutions also for but do not allow the parties to the dispute to make any changes that are
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permanent in nature or that that can cause material change the actions you know literally taken by india will distain to actually change the status of the kashmir dispute the they are trying to change the demography for quite some time in indian occupied kashmir one of the tools they have used over the years is genocide is killing of kashmiris and this is one of the tactics of you know changing the being in both the demographic change in india quite kashmir obviously the indian government denies know they can deny niggle or does the delays that lead there in wallish and legally did well ition of the un city council resolutions when they call it the integrity part that involves the units are going to vision when they bring about the permanent change or the material change they are very much in what is why do you think you are saying it's an internal matter to them outside of the
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context of the un security council resolution but for their defense they can say anything but the fact would not change the fact remains that it's a disputed matter and this matter has to be decided in accordance with the un security council resolutions that actually call for right to self-determination of kashmiris is the imran khan government go completely it was cause on the hoof in the whole of the. duration well i understand the foreign minister wasn't even in islamabad when it happened i'm not sure that you were here at the high commission i mean with the secret service is not warning the bugs any government that there was a possibility that india might make this unilateral action but in fact just for the sake of what india next move would be if we cannot stop the business of the country . see the promise to visit the. united states that was a successful visit and was
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a little successful visit. that said that the question actually as a separate topic we can discuss later on well then all drawn famously said to your prime minister that india had a strong trump to negotiate over german kashmir something denied by now i think i think that that also is a manifestation of the very and the concern among the international community and the international players as to where this dispute might take the things to in the future because unless it is old i make a plea because one thing i would like to stress is that the international community has to be mindful that what the situation is actually it was a very this interesting is it will bring in that part of the world and i think how it is going to threaten the very peace of that particular region where the people are impoverished but these kind of actions created by india caused by india as threatening the very security of that region it would be better for the
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international community to take action as swiftly as possible to stop the escalation of tension in that part of the well they're under mode he said 42000 dead presumably he meant since 989. there is nothing that pakistan can do in this situation at the moment i mean we had from subramanian swamy the b.g.p. representative to the protest saying it will be 3 weeks before the people of jammu and kashmir get their mobile phones landlines and internet working and there's nothing the pakistani government can do i think for the international community this should be a matter of deep concern they supposedly called them a biggest democracy largest democracy and this is what they have done they have shut down develop they have shut down the entire you know court kashmir there's no news from there we don't know how. the killings my might have gone by now their track record is not very good if you look at the unnamed unmarked mosque years which were discovered in 2009 by international people's tribunal and the parents
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and suspicion of the parents of disappeared persons they found out only a fragment of the missing people's mosque lives in. 3 districts and according to their what about 7000. people there were discovered and according to their claim there may be many more actually they have not even done the hard work i think this keeping this in view of it behind the closed doors when the entire world has been shut out i think is a bit of prisoners is alone here i mean china initially said it was only acceptable to name one islamic country when an arab country one muslim country that is what in the year is done as room. well i think because he will if the representative body of the islamic countries or i see where he has definitely issued the condemned nation of the indian action and he has regularly expressed their concern of the
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grave human rights violations which are going on for decades in the indian accord because you knew that no islamic countries actually said what injures dillard's room what about britain you're like a mission here in london you happy with the response from britain well i think if you if i'm monitoring very closely and i have seen a large number of people member of the parliament they have written letters to the prime minister to the foreign secretary to the un sick to even the city council president and i think the have very strongly conveyed to condemn nation of the action there's no condemnation by the boers or on some government well i think the parliamentarians they have do they have condemned this action. we have taken up this matter with the british government also the promised has spoken to the promise of those johnson you might be a very that the necessary committee of parks on met the outcome was
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a number of decisions one of the decision was to actually approach the use of the council members the pony members be 5 members to raise this issue because we are deeply concerned on many accounts what's happening in the in your court case mean you mentioned a figure about 46000 something like that in render bodies at 42 i think when one person is. is martyred a good kid gets killed. everybody knows about it but when it comes to schools of killings people just start counting the numbers even by that token has started stix is absolutely incorrect if you look at the various reports of the internat. organizations you'll find that they have set something between 95250000 people have vanished actually and they have been killed in iraq about kashmir if you go back 947 in just one week the cared for genocide
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genocide of 350000 people i was taking the figure from from the teenager so what does your prime minister mean by comparing the b.g.p. with it was not seizing we will strike back at these all just is this all just rhetoric well i think clearly pakistan is striking back with the economic thing into the international community has to get serious about this thing you have seen a trailer in the india's economy with lama happened in february as india has mastered the art of false flag operation mastered the art of creating tension in the region without realising the consequences i believe that you must you must you should also look at the situation at the lot of control and also working boundary how the tension have been raised there and this is what they promised us pointing at and then whatever they do in the or in the uk but kashmir there has to
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be a backlash from the people from inside and that is not going to remain confined inside that territory but it's interesting because your predecessor here in london. was saying that imran khan will have. islamists in kashmir fighting back in the tooth in the. because presumably the pakistani military is no match for they had military had been always blaine's and allegations people talk of random leave without any start of sticks without any information without any i would say a study of the case in point. if you talk about terrorism actually via the victims of indian terrorism and parks on the state sponsored in terrorism works on people what are the people who live kashmir who believe that their land is what the indian treatment of this was to do or this points to your question remains and the fact that when these unnamed unmarked mosque is were discovered in 2009 about whom the
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the indians have been saying that these are the people who are the infiltrators who cross the yellow sea they came here for terrorism and it was it transpired and it came out from the report of i.p.t. care that these are the indigenous people who were killed in fake encounters they were the residents of you know court kashmir and they were not in for 30 years so this is where i think you should take the the credibility of such claims that they would be infiltration and they would be stomached psalmist will be going inside or sending inside but by pakistan isn't the real problem here the reamer and contrary to his election campaign is taking a $6000000000.00 loan from washington's i.m.f. and it's up to the whole trump and the renter muti to decide the fate of german kashmir not islam about well well i think. you meant there you can you can see anything you want to but we look at the facts and figures we look at the
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situation on the ground and the situation going to that is internationally recognised dispute which has outstanding un sickening on solutions and v. believe that this is where the solution lies for the long standing to should just as will very brief thing you know that baluchistan and since the people of those 2 states and pakistan similarly want to tolerate you don't see any comparison between what you were saying about indian occupation of german kashmir with what people in sin the religious the. usual from your refereeing to those. less than one person hired people sitting abroad funded regularly by the verses of park sun to propagate this more dave and the idea that they want autonomy is autonomy. if you look at the process which has democratic process which has
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been ongoing in pakistan you'd find that all our promises have to mundus autonomy and i don't think so that if you reference to those elements who are sitting in court and trying to perpetrate this create this impression i think that that's something which reflects the. situation on the ground in pakistan i commissioned thank you well from the high commission in london that's it for the show will be back on monday when foreign ministers from india and pakistan are both in beijing at the same time feel much. imagine being on a 635 if you have a career and a career involves using your i phone in your computer things like that in an office
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