it's. an absolute chance here at the presidential palace in damascus welcome to it r.t. international world exclusive i'm with the president of syria bashar al assad. there's a president thanks for granting as an interviewer but i was just off with why granted interview now when you haven't done it for a year and. you're most welcome the theory of. events in the wood in general in the region and you think you have to the invasion has brought syria front and center. once again this is one reason the 2nd one i think the public opinion would infer

the waste has been shifting during the last 3 years. they know that. has told them so many lies about what's going on in the region in the middle east in syria in yemen. they know there. but they know what the truth so i think it's time to talk about this truth 3rd i meet so many interviews with the media. they don't try to get the information they try to get the scoop. they don't try to object have to do to bring the audience what's happening in the world that's why i stopped doing interviews for for youth well look it will be a journey from damascus to reconstruction but how many civilians how many soldiers have been killed wounded or displaced from your country.

just 2011 this tablet that you so during the last 24 hours in a mask and c.c.u. you arrived to to damascus is the result of the sacrifice of more than 100000 syrian soldiers who are martyred whole war and so many lives of course it's along the. until maybe tens of thousands of civilians or innocence who've been killed by. by excuse by being. kidnapped and killed later or disappeared we their family still waiting for theirs there was a lot of cyclists in the faith of those terrorists that's why you see this stability and reconstruction countries that have supported you include iran of course russia . i mean i want to get on in a bit to the british and american defacto backing for isis al-qaeda in your country

but how would you what would you say to a russian family that had lost a russian soldier who had risked and that sacrificed their life. for for a dictator for a release dictator what would you say to them as to why. glad to be a putin should be sending in soldiers to help your government you mention very important point even in theory no one would die for a person people would die but surely. for cause and this cause the defending of their country finding their existence their future. little somebody coming from another country could a 4th person whether he's a dictator or whatever you want to call it so this is not realistic this is again the logic that somebody would come for because the president put his name to die

for another person or even. president put him put to put all the interest of his country. for one person this is against the logic actually of russia according to what they said i mean president putin level and the others they are defending their interest in different ways one aspect you defend oh if they fight terrorism in another country with a serial in any other country in the region that we defend the russian people because terrorism and ideology has no borders they don't see political border with it's one. it's the one hearing in. the whole world is one of the not for the terrorism secondly the gleam in. the international law. for according to their point of view with this international law if it's

implemented it's in correlation with their interests with the national interest so implementing the international law around the wood will help the interest of the the russian people for what they've been. doing in accordance with their passionate interest with the global therapeutic and with the syrian interest in syria stop it now you know that in media and nato countries this country your government you personally i see enormous with chemical weapons attacks let's just go back to one in 21st of august 23rd team. in goods did your government drop chemical weapons on the. on that day 21st august 2030 the funny thing about the identity of the same date where the 1st delegation that wants to investigate international litigation that came proceeded to investigate the youth didn't arrive to damascus

which is only a few kilometers from this place. logically the syrian army if. if we support that he has chemical plant he wants to do that he would into the bed take this for a 2nd. they talk about 200 civilians killed if you use chemical weapons you mean you may kill tens of 1000 in such area with people living very close to each other i mean it's crowded area 3rd that is that it only existed in the mind of the western off the narrative that was a pretext to attack syria the better for them and they didn't offer any tangible evidence to prove that there was such attacks and they are there were many reports that all that refute that has refuted that report all those allegations so it was

all the allegation never ever theon army use chemical weapons before he handed over all his arsenal to the international committee of course of the decision there to invade the o.p.c. w. him to remove chemical weapons or to actually win when there were such allegations about the syrian army during 40 so really you ought to raise it o.p.c. w. wanted you drive 40 m. to go over you we invited them to come we did it of we invited them to come because we told them you could come and should investigate because we were 100 percent who this is these are allegations but of course the delegation of all with. as you know they are mostly biased well i mean the present obesity w. had for them to arrive as he may have his own problems with whistle blowers. there is no doubt though that. he was the director general of your p.c. i believe aboard. the destruction here he said there were gaps of certainties

discrepancies in europe b c w wanted to destruction of chemical weapons here in this culture gap in our reports why don't they show it now it's been since 2013 we've been hearing the same allegations couldn't the prove it after 6 years and every time they say syria has used chemical weapons is it possible to do to be under this. supervision by the whole western world and we're going through that again and again this is not rational i mean the whole story we do we don't need it we are advancing i mean every time we talk about using chemical weapons it was when we advise not when we lose i mean even militarily you may use if you want to use such a weapon the mother called the syrian army because we don't have it anymore but really logically you can use it when you are losing ground not when your advancing so you deny the use in job. in the area of aleppo.

you presumably deny for the way people do in the 70 all of these you deny the use of chemical weapons by the syrian every story are worth nothing more than a geisha the one who said there was use of chemical weapon he the one who should prove his story he'd want to should offer evidence is that you speak with the c.w. did. lead britain and the united states and for us to believe. they needed to bomb your country on the basis of they really do believe both. believe is one thing and bringing evidence is another thing so we're talking about evidence what the evidence that they have. to prove their story nothing they have nothing that can be any truth in the room was arguably on your side saying video evidence is being manipulated in that rebels were using chemical

weapons via the saudi arabian government and chemical weapons were indeed used but by the so-called rebels. on the you tube you can see it i mean the staged plea full plea with somebody. play the role of the victim in many incidents not only with chemical weapons even with bombardments they. believe that somebody has been the victim then at the end of the shooting his normal person he'll stand up and go home or move normally you can see it on you tube it's very clear we can offer you would be evidence for this but there's no other evidence beyond that because the white helmet supported by the british foreign office government recently been given extra funding by the trumpet ministration. they claim their videos are absolutely true and that in fact the people who are making those videos saved 150000 lives in your country which were g.t.

again a very simple to see the same faces of those angels. the white had meant the same face of the same one in the white helmet was a fighter with clyde. you can see me. very clear the same one always been behaving. or. cutting hate and one of them would be eating the heart of a soldier i mean this is very common to see on the internet the evidence i mean no one in the in this region believe the stunt the p.r. stunt of the whitehead myth they are offshoot of unlawful. well the u.k. state mandated b b c and was the international of their religion your government killed 11000 people using so-called barrel bombs from 12 that would be a violation of the un security council resolution you want 3000000 and indeed human

rights watch is pointing to satellite imagery you're talking about you tube videos saying there are fake videos these are some of the major nations as biggest n.g.o.s and broadcasters no war is a good war. this is self-evident truth you always. victims in any war but the talk about an army or state to go in killed 3000000000 and its own people this is not realistic for the simple reason the war in syria was about capturing the hearts of the people and you cannot capture the heart of the people by bombarding. the syrian army was fighting the terrorists. whether there is a. fire that affected some tyranny and that could have happened and you can have investigations but how could the syrian people support their state and their

president and their or me if they are killing them. was the only way. to regain the east aleppo. the joke i want is for you personally authorized the only way to get rid of al qaeda i said arguably backed by britain and the united states the only way to get rid of them was aerial bombardment we definitely and we succeeded in some areas we we captured without war we made negotiations with those groups and they left they left that area and then we need to produce in the pictures and presumably say those pictures are true of the destruction in east aleppo because that really the only way to defeat. the groups. those groups in eastern alipore used to bombard the civilians on daily basis and kill. hundreds of thousands of people in aleppo so

the mission of the army and the mission of the state is to protect the civilians from those terrorist how can we do that without attacking the terrorists or that's not true and on media and later nations they should there in your defense but what about the use of double tap strikes by the syrian government and the russian air force where you bomb part of east aleppo and then emergency workers go in when you bomb again there are a lot of. narrative misleading narrative in there with your to show that the syrian army is intentionally killing this event without no reason and to show that those that they call them. like a y. tell me any other hospital which is paid a quarter for the terrorists the theory that the syrian army is only attacking the humanitarian facilities in order for the civilians to suffer actually what happened you drop of the those civilians fled those area and came to the government side in

every place not only just in aleppo. those people now if you go to pull this deal even be in those areas under the supervision of the government why didn't we kill them why didn't they fled to turkey. this is you know if you would those tend not to think of but as i said great silent of the head of the british backed way talmud spoke on my program and said they are just a humanitarian organization they are not terrorists which will despite what you and the russian government allege that you but you have pictures you have videos you have proof so it's not that we we don't have any of the allegations how do we know through their image it's what we can offer you all the evidence we have evidence mr president i'll stop you there more from president bashar al assad of syria after this break.

join me every thursday on the alex salmond and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics or. i'm showbusiness i'll see you then. welcome back you're watching an international exclusive with the president bashar al assad of syria i'm going back a little to the 1st demonstrations in. damascus and there is a famous again we see state mandated british media program in which they interviewed of all people well the druze in beirut who said to you authorize the killing of the team year old. is that true and that they then interviewed a succession of people saying the mistakes you made led to what happened it wasn't

the british and american backing of al-qaeda and isis dyess in your country at the very beginning. during. the 1st few days we lost 5 policemen. by shooting by bullets how could we talk about peaceful demonstrations while you have a. listening kid i would hope that i would raise the killing of a 13 year old here i'm just starting for the very good from for the very beginning i mean the word peaceful demonstrations wasn't correct there was hooting and you cannot there who's shooting at the police and who the one was hooting at the civilians because in most of the incidents the police didn't have even machine gun or except this child was tortured no that's not true he's not we never had

a cigarette burn there was a body he was killed no no he was killed he was kid and there were there legation but he was tortured he wasn't tortured he was killed and was taken to the hospital and i met with his parents they have been all the read story this is only in the with in the west and in the within media outlets this is not the story syria so that's why i'm so proud of all those the 3 that are completely disconnected from our reality he's somebody who died how did he die who shot but you know it was killed when you have a chaotic demonstrations. could be infiltrated that demonstration and start shooting in different directions and kill police in order to retaliate. or vice versa to have you heard of. we've been arrested in germany the germans alleging something called broadchurch 2511 of your torture units to torture demonstrators we don't have torture unit we don't have for torture policy

in syria what why do you use the torture for but the question why is this a call if you can situation you just want to torture people of this kind of them wanted to torture you need information f.b.i. or the information the measured it or the ceiling people supported the government that's why we've been here for 9 years in spite of all of this aggression by the with and by the petrodollar in the region that's why this of the only reason so why do you torture the people but the question is not what is it if you talk about individual it is it is this is the only individual incident that could happen by anyone for an event for any other reason that could happen anywhere but we don't have such policy we never believe in that torture could make your situation better as a state very simple so we don't we don't you know what did you make of it when the

british government sent the royal navy to intercept in the rain the inverse will. they said the iranian government said it was with heating oil. for syria and the sections from the european union going to hit the poorest people of syria. this winter. exactly 1st for this is by receive. the biography by the united kingdom religion and this is the core meaning of the word regime called regime in polythene gang of youth something similar. yes they wanted to effect the people in syria why because those people expected to rule to rule. against their government during the difference to just over the war but they didn't they were supposed to be supporting the terrorists the moderate rebels with the angels of white helmet but the people didn't this with their government so they have to

suffer they have to pay the price 1st for they have to learn the lesson that you should do. with their agenda 2nd this is maybe the last ditch attempt in order to push them to be against big government but they tried it last winter to try to before and they didn't work because the people in you the whole story and they know where their interests lie people in the global south you and your government ministers may think it's natural to accuse major government of supporting al qaeda bases but view is watching this interview in those major countries may think this is ridiculous why would the british government say or the obama government because i suppose don't trump arguably has suddenly realized what may have been going on why do you think they wanted to support al qaeda and i says why because of the fact this started with the fact that the american officers before anyone else

said verb are you with that on like john kerry like hillary clinton and many others when they talked about their role in supporting of clyde in afghanistan in order to be a tool against the soviet union that they said this is their modus operandi is not something we invented in the us on 911 why would they make the same mistake again because of american policy in general. depends on trial and they invaded of a gun. they got nothing in the invaded big got nothing and they started to invade other countries but in different way they change the way the problem the left is now the b.b. fighters survival war from their point of view they are losing losing their hegemony so they want to divide the russian and the iranian with it in whoever said no even they are alive this ignore like that with some government they will fight with them they need dude they noticed that in iraq it didn't work by sending the

army bit asked a lot and they paid the price even when inside the united states so it's much easier for them to send a proxy to al-qaeda is a proxy again the syrian government again the russian government and the iranian government that's why they've been using this but you have evidence the ice is how did i says rise suddenly in 2014 out of nowhere after nothing. in iraq and syria at the same time with american armament. the be physically how could they smuggle millions of barrels of oil to turkey under the supervision of the american aircraft how could the american want to use them against the syrian army so it's more thumping with it the american said that and the fact that the same story. but while this is been going on you have been talking with it to

the actual bodies and different into locators what do you make of the un envoy stefan de mistura saying in quotations in the birth of your days having really fought against what happened in aleppo libyan dariya i could not be the one that is shaking and and saying my leisure these are the people you were talking to as neutral observers looking back on it were any of these people neutral he cannot be in that position if is neutral because the united states will only accept . poppy they said their behavior but you did shake hands with him via n.v. have to meet with me and i said no but so he he wanted to shake my hand if you want to do he was biased that's why he feels he was implementing the american agenda maybe in

a little bit smarter way but it didn't work because he wasn't he was biased that's why and what is this geneva process there have been some reports that the syrian delegation was backed by your government but not representing the syrian government what exactly is the geneva process post conflict i'm not even sure it's called that if american. lawyer it's about gaining in politics what you couldn't get through demonstration 1st and through the terrorist leader so you can get it through president political process that's way in it didn't work that's what you need for fear because it was stop and it was about toppling the government through interim. interim body with that matter what is it. then change the government peacefully and control syria like they did in many other

. countries that's why you need to fade and that's why you went to sochi with the russian perswade always working we had this delegation last month and they started last week negotiating the constitution so when donald trump announces well you asked me about this you never really read this geneva if you talk about this really avert this you know if it's only the venue the place if you're gadhafi but i mean the political process is the thought you thought you both matter where we we convene or where we thought the negotiation is such but of course the mainstream western media in media in a relationship geneva north ritual and do you believe that this. curious story that the russians are saying that the u.s. is stealing $30000000.00 of oil a month from northern syria is this a trump budgeting chip in the geneva talks why would net oil export or

like the usa be interested in $30000000.00 of oil a month no things i says the started spiking syrian oil and oil in 2014 they had to partner with her. and his coterie and the american with the cia or others so what trump did is just announced that he had the truth he didn't do it he didn't he's not talking about something new even when some of the kurds thought of looting the syrian oil the american with their partner so it's about money in this pot or it and that what the trying to do simply but it's not the new it or it's not related to to the talks at all. but arguably way not more angry because obviously that would be a violation of the 4th geneva convention on pillaging of countries resources of course we are include everything in is. definitely this is looting but there's no

international order i should and there's no international law. but this is nothing new to be frank not only during the war the american always try to loot other countries in in different ways in different ways regarding peer not only always or money or financial resources they do their rights their rights political rights every every other right the historical role at least after world war 2 so it's not something new it's not strange. all disconnected from their previous party but it from time to time it takes to friendship and this cheap good thing but all this talk assist. way of american policy looting the rights of other people was a big part of the war fossil fuel pipeline access to europe from the middle east

that would cut rusher biplane access to the european union this is very realistic but some say that. the president to open the syria for a pipeline north and he said no for the ocean actually that didn't happen this is not true but there was the pipeline that's coming east to west from iran through your dog food into the mediterranean if this one was the reason it could be the war is about the oil as a factor yes this is likely to be but this is not the only factor don't forget that there's a war between the united states and the rest of the war do you have no you are talking about 20 shifting earthquakes because the world order after woodward to. has been expired especially after the collapse of the soviet union and one polar

would doesn't work anymore so you have rising powers like russia and china and india and other countries the us doesn't accept any partner in leading the war even yuki even from even other. become 3 i wouldn't call them quote this is another meaning they're not to create any more. they don't except. that's why the fighting now so the war in syria is a microcosm of the woodward lists a world war 3. without going through proxies you have different factor the oil is one factor of the or not because of the war i don't think i don't believe just because i'll stop you there for a moment president more from president bashar al assad of syria after this short break.

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welcome back you're watching an international exclusive with president bashar al assad of syria. of course one might say that syria historically your father and yourself always supported the palestinians and the un resolutions governing the perth didn't do you see israel which after all many believe to be a nuclear weapons of mass destruction. as influencing policy in the european commission in the state department in the pentagon definitely israeli the or enemy that they occupy our land. evident intuitive to be part of any thing that could happen against syria any plan any geisha.

through with their victory through their relation with the terrorists and. visiting the terrorists who are being treated in the hospitals you believe those pictures are true of the israeli government was directly not aborting al qaeda linked and isis day shooting militants trying to destroy your government these really published these photos formally as a news it wasn't or indications 2nd they support in every time or every time the syrian army advanced again those. terrorists in the south user aid used to bombard our troops and whenever we are diverse somewhere. in syria the airplane started committing airstrikes against our army but what and so the link is very clear there was correlation between the. israeli operations and the terrorist

operations so that 1st through the terrorists thinking through the americans through the europeans they have won. and won interest and before the war not only do during the war so it's very normal in be expected in likely that the user id should be part of all of the. of course well britain the united states european powers may have stop trying to. aerially bombard your country to destroy your government the big news in the major nation media was the al baghdadi assassination by the 75th ranger regiment in the adler province is it your understanding going on from what you just said that al baghdadi is essentially. trained by the united states under torture in abu ghraib prison in iraq. he was in their prison under this a provision and the americans were the one who released by the ad so they wouldn't

release him without any at all and suddenly by the day he became a muslim. in the world as he. himself. he was prepared by the americans to play a better world and we don't believe the. recent story of maybe he's killed but there's not a bottle of the mention the whole thought he was about white washing. and from being an drove of the terrorists during the last not only few years but during the last decade this is like in the fiction movies when the memory they want to do with the memory of the of the. public opinion that we were over there were in direct link with those tourists. with. when obama sr was captured visually. when he was executed they showed

the event of exclusion when his children killed they showed their bodies the same would of god why didn't they show us the body of bin laden why didn't they show with the body or. dead. just a fake story about being against terrorists and this very sophisticated operation maybe his kid because his his expired as person b. needed somebody years and maybe they wanted to change the whole name of isis into another name to bring isis as a moderate organisation to be used again in the market it was a little girl i get out of the media will react to that but because the drumbeat ministration your government when it came to the nation of we're not the odd we're not part of

any operation you're not in that order there's an order between in your situation in syria and in the instruction from norway the representatives at these recent geneva talks i want it or no one at all we don't have in addition with most of the with some countries who play a direct road against c i know you're antagonistic with nato nation turkey but with dirty and arguably yourself must be aware that western policy is liable for blowback into the european union what have you made of a european union government's response to the possible. outflow of british ices day his fighters back into the european union how dangerous is it to be in london today or paris or berlin. actually the relation between.

the e.u. is always they hate him but they want him. they don't did it in they know that he is fanatic islamist they know this and they're the bin or that is going to send them both. extremist or maybe terrorists egypt in many refugees from your country of many of them from syria and some of them know they're coming from different areas. in the world not only syria actually but the majority of syria not all of them are extremist mob the measure 2 of them are actually muscled the turkey they'd have to because all the terrorism in syria because of the bombardment of the terrorists and so on. so they don't want him but the same time the fear him but from the other side let's hear that thin doing those. syria and other. is dangerous the most dangerous on europe is to support the terrorists in syria

this is the most dangerous part so this is hypocrisy how can you fear those few 1000000 is the measure to all of them are moderates and they have while you do you support those theories there to clean 100 in tens of thousands at least and maybe hundreds of thousands in syria and you don't fear that they're going to go back to a country where the british government takes away the citizenship of british just as a arguably ok but then presently the fighting in the ad lib russian warplanes in action there how far away are we from reintegrating it live will it be an amnesty for these people that have tried to overthrow you through your government militarily it will not take long if we start to liberate it but actually what what we do is to give chance for the civilians to leave and that's what's happening but they've being actually not prevented freely toward the government they've been

smuggled they've been coming they click each few for a few families every every weekly 30 because they could be killed if they want to leave southwards or westward towards not all told to or the government should hisself. this is a very important for us to give chance for the 3rd into even older not to be hard to airstrikes backed by russia and your military forces reports in the past few days are civilians. you know he should visit little green to be reintegrated those are again detailed with facilities very simply but in the west area an organization exactly in the me in with the narrative in the western media of an oddity of during the 9 years or the war that every. syria or lithia

russian airstrike should be again the civilian and humanitarian facility unfortunately according to them our bullets in me. they can only kill civilians they don't kill militants all with as you see so no this is again part of the with narrative and i think just discussing this not even just with with. again this is against our interest or interests lies in killing the terrorists in order to protect the civilians not leaving those 3000000000 innocents under the supervision of the terrorist and being killed by the ok but then what is the nature of your agreement with the syrian defense forces there are so many different names of organizations in your country many of them are the white had good guys in nature a nation media what is their power sharing going on who are the syrian differences

is the if you know it's about. regaining the control full control of the territory whatever the syrian army moved in to bring with it the services of the government so it has sought for sovereignty on both territories but this agreement is both of those because the if they were drawing 30 kilometers south would in order to. to remove the pretext of the turkish or the turks to invade syria so it's we are in transition period because they're going to give now but we invited them to go and the syrian army some of the them said no the last few days some of them said yes we are ready to join the army so we don't know what's going to happen yet but we invited them to join the army in order to to have normal situation as it used to be before the before the war when when the law

prevail and the state prevailed nobody else and as for the girlish forces are they just tired after so many years i mean your understanding is they took money from. the united states the cia i know you're welcoming them back you're worth 1st of all there is the if is not only kurds it's mix of kurds and of and others 2nd when we talk about that is the of because in the to prevent part of the kurds the measured it was because they had good relation of the government and the measured it all because support that support the government but this which is called the id the one who is being supported by the americans publicly they armament their money they smuggled oil together. there are american. agents to be with most of them i wouldn't hold in 30 all of them i don't know all of them but they're probably policy doing the last few years is to invite the

american interest to be angry when the american wants to leave. and to say we don't want to join the syrian army simply had you saying exactly what mr herder one would say 3 of the s.g. of all of them actually they are going has his own agenda which is to part his own agenda as muslim brotherhood and the american agenda as a puppet so it's to pot but they work in tandem with 2 agenda. but at the same time though those group. oh dear why did i give him the excuse and the reason to invite syria that doesn't mean invasion is legal is the illegal in every thing it's all the work but they give him the pretext cause he's been announcing for year that he wanted to invade the northern part of syria and he wanted to clean that area from the terrorists and he mean the people id because it

gave him the. excuse but what happened that's why they were to be blamed but erdogan has invaded ok but don't you see el nato some people in major powers may think the one thing we do not want is peace between ankara and damascus wealth . and you are participating in that divide and rule system that will have been designed in western capitals you no chance of any meetings with mr herder one. with him if not 3 standing to 2 to meet with him and i don't think while somebody is occupying your land will be the preferred want to go to meet with we had some. meeting you negotiate with your enemies not your friends here we are but not with not me with him no it's on the security level it happened through the russians i mean it was a tripod. meeting it happened 2 or 3 times. you know with

a we're not against the principle to negotiate with. especially when we don't consider the enemy the turks people our own neighbors and we have a common history because you cannot make them. the enemy is there in his policy in his country. so. the to be against those 3 groups. in turkey and in syria that doesn't mean that we see eye to eye in fact especially after he invaded syria publicly and foreman mr president i'll stop you there more from president bashar al assad of syria after this break.

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i mentioned about the students i mentioned. historic support for what is he was liberation movements in the global south they tend not to take up near liberal economics last time i was here all the talk in damascus amongst your ministers in damascus they were talking about privatization they were talking about elites in syrian society educated in business schools in harvard in the west. is that not the start of the syrian conflict when used to implement near liberal privatization plans destroying the fabric of this. actually there was a debate about privatization and the government and the state in going to refuse that even the unions in syria the measure that if you had been your liberal. policies because you know that is going to destroy the poor that was before

everyone was talking about it here you know. we moved to stiff toward liberation but we still have public sector to this moment actually who protected the economy theobald with the services is the public sector without the public sector wouldn't have survived this war the role of the public sector so because we are all socialist government anyway so we have an a no actually we still have public sector and with you support the poor with you have subsidies braid or fall of schools of the merely nearly free education is free and so we haven't changed that policy but we opened the doors more for the private sector so you cannot go a little vision you cannot put it through a coincidence the conflict hit that just after you were opening up opening up the markets no it was arguably corruption more corruption no there was. there was really thick spent nation for the reason of the conflict it doesn't have

anything to do with this it doesn't have anything with it because there was 4 year old drought of a drought and the people become poor no no no no this is not the reason this is not the this is not go to the explanation just theoretical in reality the problem started when the money of came to syria and we had contact with many of the neighbors and told them why don't you come to your workshop and this is in one. we take as we take in one week it was very simple bt paid him $50.00 at the very beginning and then later $100.00 a week which has enough for him to leave without hook so it was much easier for him to join the demonstration after that it was much easier for them to do them toward . having a moment in the end it hooting and before that we had very important that the qatari government would deny that of course different differently i mean because it

is with was presented at the time somewhat bizarrely for many women google you know to put the arab world is a continuation of the arab spring from the self-immolation of brazee in tunisia. that is connected to this conflict the arab spring or is that. of course there is there's interaction in this region of being or the same culture the same background the system the same circumstances somehow not not not completely. some of the demonstration of the very beginning were peaceful to refight every demonstration were infiltrated by militants in some areas yes. some people wanted to go could they want the to improve their situation some people they have the own ideas about improving the political system more freedom or different flow growth. be used in those demonstrations so that was made by

the influence of what happened in other countries like in your train but that's not what they continue this way the same people that i'm talking about this stop participating in the demonstration where the shooting started and the extremists all took infiltrating special little from both of which started leading to demonstrations why would a lower quality and using religious slogans in order to give this religious and sometimes take tyrian. mantle to give it my tutu to work put this button on that it was 3 something like that could be happening in lebanon. and you think that in country all of that because that they have. a. constitution in syria would not have sectarians constitution so it didn't work but i mean the outside influences that should. of course the one we believe spontaneous demonstration to be spontaneous but where will it go that depends on the awareness of the people.

i've got to ask you a reconstruction from people saying you're going to be too dependent on dry and want to run the estimate is what $230000000000.00 i don't know how they calculate these things. you expect now the desperate are richer and there's going to be massive reconstruction is that what's going to. not very useful because you know there's embargo to syria and the american tried hard during the last 2 years to not the individual not only companies who was to invest in syria they said to you on the embargo right away so many capitals fear coming to syria because of their team . but this is not the biggest problem for the human if we have enough to get all come through we don't need any human resources we can build it gradually so i wouldn't worry about the symbolical but definitely friendly countries like china russia and we have

a priority in this rebuilding not european union every country who against syria would not have chance to be part of this is written to british british radio you'll definitely. do you think actually and he has been raised that the return of. terrorists as you call them. mass immigration good to after the libya war after the syria war they affected breaks it. because of immediate immigration to europe. of course the far right have been influenced by this to his own interests of course talk about the far right but most important thing. not the political aspect of it that the change in the society how much europe is ready or cain or able to integrate those immigrants in this society even before that immigration during the

last 10 years to europe they had a problem in the integrating the immigrants in this society now you have this problem and you have the terrorism that inflicted france and u.k. and other countries. there will be affected because part of those immigrants are the extremists and the terrorists and the people who doesn't want to integrate they want to go there just because they want to leave this the region for different reasons security economy and other we know security collaboration to help these countries. there's no way to really know govern we know we're not ready and we said . very clearly that we're not going to help any country and security while they work against syria and every aspect economy security and in their politics the boss of m i 6 on his opening speech alex younger he said. you putin you make a desert and call it peace and human tragedy is heartbreaking any british official

. is not but in no position to talk about a humanitarian aspect anywhere in the wood they've been part of the invasion in iraq they've been partner in killing more than 100 and a half 1000000 iraqis. they've been a partner in attacking syria with the only thought and the embargo in syria and killing hundreds of thousands of syrians. and i've been there. american puppets they're not independent so they're in no position to talk about the humanitarian issues anywhere in the world let alone this 30 in the india forget about this could only help here i'm not talking about their current and modern history they look in a position well just finally then what about the election here is it going to be a general election in 2021 in syria in italy and will there be more than one person on the ballot last time we were 3 and this time of course we're going to have as much as they want to know man they're going to be. nominees mr president

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