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across talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow dmitri bob which is a political analyst and editor. internet media project and in athens we're joined by alex who so far oh he's the editor and writer for the duran dot com all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate let me go to. first i'm titling this program of gag order and i know you know what i'm talking about 1st let's we have this whistle blower which anyone that has any interest in this ridiculous did a dismal story now is who we're talking about ok it's minute in media outlets for quite a few quite a few days at least 10 maybe 2 weeks now and now facebook and and google and you tube they're scrubbing everything that's number one number 2 the abstains story is back in the news a young producer being on the left a.b.c.

news and then went to c.b.s. and they claim she leaked the this interview or interview with a.b.c. presenter and she said she didn't do it but she's fired anyway and they don't want to follow up on it this is the age of the gag order go ahead in athens. you know peter i mean what you're seeing here is the mainstream media in collusion with social media in collusion with the intelligence agencies the deep state who are also working with the democrats in this impeachment inquiry hoax which is a whole another ridiculous matter enough itself but what you have right now peter i mean we when you look at these 2 stories which both broke around the same time on the one hand you have this person who has what i would describe as a malicious cia gossip blower there's no way he's a whistleblower that's that's without a doubt there is a water cooler food exactly exactly what you have here but you're not allowed

to say this person's name even though his name was mentioned i believe it was april 25th peter by dad by gino that was the 1st person actually mention this guy's name it's i love that they say it is name is in the report yeah there you go but you're not allowed to say his name no media channels allowed to say his name no one on social media is allowed ses name if you say his name peter obvious social media post on facebook or on youtube as we have our shadow then your video gets taken down you get warrants for youtube your posts on facebook facebook gets screwed out you can't even place his name in common i like alex when you put in comments but even under the whistleblower law as it stands now it is not part of the statute that he would manes anonymous that's not part of the statute whatsoever ok it's the inspector general that can make that determination so we have here let me turn the demon right now we have these social media companies now determining what freedom

of speech is they're determining at least in an american sense what the 1st amendment allows and doesn't allow that's not their place to do that but they're unilaterally doing it and they're punishing people that define their rule. there are community values here it seems to me this is a power grab and. a sign of what is to come because it's our we're in the in the very 1st stages of this of this shadow banning this censorship and they're getting people used to it because they make the rules now well i think that basically we know where it comes from way it's not just the social media giants we see how they're being pressured you know we see how zuckerberg comes to the congress how he's been pressured he's been pressured also in the european union the you know the basically. threatened him you know saying that unless you

abide by all rules or whatever they are you'll be all right whatever they are because they don't tell you what they are and that's true. in there and we see how it works the mainstream media precious the congress is precious but if you should say in general there. pressure there the social media and the dissenting voices being silenced you know this latest story with the a.b.c. report to you just told us about well it was basically leaked. made public by project very tough headed by james o'keefe what do we read about him in the mainstream media you know what do we read about him. in. the newspapers he recently released video from a former c.n.n. employee claiming bias within the organization and quote well i didn't know that c.n.n. was but it is such a. mystery you know if we and these people you know this c.n.n.

does not abide by the rules that they insult to the president as they want to you know they insult russia as they want they make unsubstantiated accusations at every judge kavanaugh. instantiated charges against is the nomination and then not punished but if. you are not see and then and you're probably a person's name and they were knows that. you're going to be punished so this is sort of inequality here we see it may go back to athens alex i think you know with this whistleblower which we all know his name and people watching this program know it's his name the reason why they're doing this number one is they're flexing the social media and the democrats are flexing their muscles this is ahead of 2020 be able to cut out any kind of a narrative that they don't like and number 2 they know this water cooler boy he's full of it ok that's why they they don't want his name mentioned ok because if he's ever confronted under oath it's going to fall apart and they all know it alex

absolutely right peter out of anything to their or what i will add is that if there's any proof if you need any proof that the social media companies are publishers and not platforms yep you have it right here this is rock solid proof peter of that point and going back to the a.b.c. stories on the one hand you have this purge of anyone that mentions this person's name on the other hand you have a.b.c. and c.b.s. news who i thought were competitors yeah hurting with each other to hunt down a real whistleblower exposing a cover up for a man convicted of pedophilia. this is a company owned by disney peter and they're protecting this mayor because he is connected to the clintons because the person that hosts their morning show used to work for the couldn't and went to parties with this man. and because epstein assisted his confidante his lane was at the wedding of the clintons and

this was in 2016 right before the election cycle and hillary clinton did not want this out a deal or alex just mentioned facts here a lot of facts a noble facts if you have any interest whatsoever but c.b.s. and a.b.c. refuse to admit these are facts here i mean this is one of the reasons why people among many reasons why people are losing faith in the mainstream media because it's not really it's really a sin of omission the the don't mention what really is the news will do is give you good feeling virtuous signaling but they won't give you the news well also or they have a very short memory and literature of what was the main narrative of syria in the last 2 months all crump is betraying the kurds you know they never mentioned

a bomb you know he was the 1st to get involved illegally enter into really under international law he was supporting turkey when he was pressured in syria when turkey was basically saying be an armed man into syria in 2012 in 2013 so this is forgotten you know just like with other examples of their attacks against trump everything all the story if it all started with trump comment to the white house and trump was right when he when he said i didn't come for syria i actually didn't start any new. well and they won't let him out ok let's go back to that. alex. you know i looked at the reporting on c.n.n. and on fox news in a little bit of embassy in d.c. you couldn't get 2 different story lines coming out right now with this impeachment process was ridiculous was sort blower thing this invented ukraine gate i mean

they're living and operating in very different universes right now and people are beginning to strongly notice alex yeah you know you're right peter there's no doubt that they're reporting 2 different narratives but the interesting part peter is that all of the mainstream media including fox they still won't mention this person's name yet all the people at fox actually provide i understand they got an order from up top don't mention this person's name this is a trial balloon what's to come peter as we're heading into 2020 we're going to see a lot more of this censorship a lot more of this bullying a lot more of telling people what they can and cannot say out of fear of being the platform being a racist by not only social media the race you from payment services you may get hit you at your bank this is this is very very scary what we're seeing is the u.s. rapidly becoming an authoritarian surveillance state and it's happening right

before our eyes. you know the this is what's really really troubling here because we have these social media companies they're the ones that are setting the rules right now and they are outside of legitimate. law enforcement and and what the rules really are and this is so much so many people are intimidated because i don't see lawmakers taking up this issue and saying what you're doing is beyond your purview this is what we're supposed to do as lawmakers but there is there is there people are so hesitant intimidation it's true and you know i don't like this situation when they call these person a whistle. well he's not he's a leaker because. they get old school plight the beasts and that goes on for such people in the united states specially after the revolution so we especially after. the war in iraq you know those and so such people and we know the names you can just go to their internet and. the 1st when they come absolutely and that

a lot of them spend some time in the world of them are in this white these these person that they mention. threatened by anything he on the. net did exactly what he is he's connected in so many different ways to so many people in power so many people in the deep state here that's why and i but the reason why they might was that they said they had this one you will mention because you'll understand how well connected this is and how this is just another hoax or alex was a foreign thank you very much for joining us on the program we'll see you soon if you're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussions on some real new state with r.t. .

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long looking for movie called. just so you don't hear larry the young. guys to my small pursuit. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle dry and you were discussing some real news. and now to london and we're joined by markus papadopoulos he's the editor of politics 1st magazine marcus thank you for joining us today i want you to tell us

everything that's important about this general election that's coming up because a number of things that i've learned is that it looks like boris johnson could come out on top in a very big way but others are also talking about this is being the most important general election since 1945 is that true in your opinion marcus. i certainly concur with that assessment this general election is a monumental one for britain and it is almost a unique general election why because this is the 1st time in recent times that the election is about one issue and one. issue only and that is rex it that is what makes this election so unbelievable for polish johnson this is a massive gamble because boris johnson passed so when disallow action and he has to win it with a majority it is not good enough for the concert is to come out as the largest

party without majority suppose johnson has to win with a majority in order for him to break that bret's it deadlock for jeremy corbyn what he needs to do is not necessarily willing to deprive the conservatives of a majority that would be good enough for jerry colvin now go by the polls at a moments it would seem that the concert is on for a majority but then we have to be very cautious about opinion polls because in britain in recent years they have proved to be utterly wrong and if we look at the labor party jeremy corbyn is not doing well in the polls and the main reason for that is because if he starts on bret's it it would appear that the labor heartens which are in the north of england who look voted overwhelmingly to leave the e.u. are absolutely livid at kogan because corbin personally loads the e.u.

but he has come out and said that he would support a 2nd referendum and if you're in a 2nd rest of the campaign he would remain neutral now if the labor party on its on the center that's wealth do not vote leymah then that is went boris johnson could very well be on course for achieve in a majority you know game a it's about one issue here you know is about bragging but i won't because it is about briggs and i would also argue it's all up to it also is about neil liberalism and its limitations and even its rejection by the electorate. though they now would necessarily say neo liberalism well basically if we look at their history of the problem i mean boris johnson just 2 months ago in the telegraph he published an article titled let me quote it we will prove putin wrong exit in the

you all october 31 well october 30th one has come and nothing happened and is still inside the u.s. so mark was very right you called it a deadlock and people are getting frustrated because whatever they do they're almost to do the right thing and you know it's no longer you push a button then you make a choice it's a wake a child story you know where until you push the right button it says no it was another one right so when people get very frustrated you could actually use the metaphor of a minefield as well i think or do we go back to markets here i was looking at the campaign slogans for the 3 major parties here the conservatives get bragg's it done unleash britain's potential not bad labor's slogan it's time for real change. and the liberal democrats stop brigs it build a brighter future labor isn't

a dressing directly brigs it why not. the problem for jerry coburn is this he personally despises the are in union and he has friends hope political career however the vast majority of the parliamentary labor party which is the labor m.p.'s are in favor of britain's membership of the e.u. that is why it's who pays the p.r.p. to try and prevent corbin's mines a civil war from breaking out he has gone along or he has signed trouble because the labor movements feels quite differently to the european union the parliamentary labor party is true if you so effectively rates of the choice before the british electorate says this the conservative party is a bret's it the labor party is now a remain party to the discussed of traditional labor voters the working class in the north of england the liberal democrat party is a remain

a party and the scottish national party isn't my party so you can see it's probably going to happen on december 12th the scottish national party will be dominant across scotland the conservatives will be dominance in the south the liberal democrats will do well in london labor what peoples he states in a way it's all ice pizza must be on the north of england because i also i know in traditional labor voters they've only had a currency earl a buck but they hate the you they hate the because they regard it as the epitome of capitalism what privatisation or free market economy economy they want to light it needs are and could be became the leader aunty and now they feel out jeremy corbin is actually signed in we've the human capitalists project they cannot vote labor because of because they forgot it's near little economics or the choice that's what we're calling is vote conservative although for the dregs it ozzie and it would

seem going by opinion polls and opinion polls on. just a snapshot of how some want to. go by those opinion polls they are going to be voting conservative which is credible so here marcus it may say that boris johnson wins the election but not with a a significant majority i mean he faces the same fate as jeremy corbyn i would imagine i mean this is really kind of both of them are in the same boat right now it has to be decisive and it's going to be a winner take all because corbin will not survive or i would have to tell me if the tories don't do well enough then boris johnson's heads on the block to marcus. well peter if jeremy corbyn does not this general election that he's going so you step down it's quite simple boris johnson has started to win with

a majority the conservatives have to emerge on the center but that's what's we've as a majority government which remains bits of the concert is how it's going around $300.00 insurgency m.p.'s now that is quite a small order to conserve is yet to go by a pin and it's possible however if the conservatives if it's a hung parliament then this gamble has folks evil design could be more resigned the . deadlock will remain entrenched in its current and consistent and who knows what's going to happen regrets it or starts and has to win with a majority nothing less would do if he doesn't win a majority and he's gone jeremy corbyn will be gone and by the end of the year the labor party in the conservative party will be without legs it was a choose your state of the whistle and brits your you use the term deeming it we heard the term a hung parliament but i think what we're having here is a hung democracy totally and a hung ideology i mean both parties have fared very poorly during all of this

because they have to vision is with among themselves here but it it's what you get at the end are most irrespective of the outcome you could have an intensely polarized society without any solutions to deal with the demon well they're the mainstream press has already suggested the solution to all these complicated problems of the market has described they're very concerned that the report almost calls attempts to influence the branch and campaign has not been published but that they remain so on you know dominic grieve with the head of this select committee which investigated that says we do know all at i'm quoting him from the independent we don't know and i think it's widely accepted that the russians have sought to interfere. in other countries democratic processes in the past well in fact they don't know because no evidence has been produced knew it neither in the united states nor in britain by the keep saying it as if it was an actual and this is the

only thing that the conservatives would say they're there. no liberals from both parties can agree on more school is to blame for everything we remember david cameron said there is the only one person in the world who is about this exit cold blooded murder putin well in fact while you were putting didn't care and he said it many times we will accept any solution any decision by the british people indeed in russia we just watch it with the mixed feelings because we have been taught that britain is such a. you know the portal is democracy but in fact we see how people voted for something 3 years ago and that doesn't happen and you have a situation which works more and more like a deadlock and more and more like an insult to democracy market so we go back to you in london i mean irrespective of the outcome in this general election there is

going to have to be a lot of healing after this 3 years of coming and going and not going anywhere i mean where do you begin the healing process or do we have a permanent division that will fester for you because even even leaving the e.u. is going to take time and effort and it probably won't be easy and there are going to be plenty of people that will make political hay of how do you heal from all of this go ahead marcus in london well i think britain is no doubts about. england it's ok they're fair yeah right. but i don't know. lots of those remain as you are saying they still believe that christians should remain in the e.u. how i thought they believed that were people who spoke it is the will of the people to the u.k. to late as the site of the countries at the same call home many brits and needs

some ladies but the problem is going back to the british media this election was demonstrates how magnificently british mainstream media oh yeah and that and sets of aspects are elements and the little elements because instead of talking about 14000000 britons pizza living policy including slow 1000000 children living below the red light what is a jet the conservatives and liberals talking about it's all going about the election they're talking about the wrong things here gentlemen we've run out of time here but i like how we've ended it and i agree with marcus it's the media that's failing us all not just the political class many thanks to my guests in moscow athens and in london thanks to our viewers for watching us here arche see you next time and remember prospect most.

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