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global neoliberalism the legacy of pinochet lives on. board they don't want to lections they want a coup d'etat and wipe us away in a pinochet style. sometimes we say these hard things and in europe and other places they see it as an exaggeration or extremist and it's not exaggerated they want to put a pinochet in place in venezuela i mean they're not signed today democratically elected maduro may still be in power in venezuela custodian of the world's greatest known reserves of oil even after attempts by the european union to overthrow him but in chile washington's man is in trouble accused of reviving the days when u.k. companies armed pinochet to torture his people after so many years of trying to recover from a long big potato ship of almost 20 years you have an open wound in the chilean society when you have the military on the street and that's another thing that we have to take into account when understanding this crisis is that that trauma of to
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land society of having the military on the street is open again with this repression in human rights violation joining me now via skype is a member of the chamber of deputies of chile the democratic revolution politician or jackson who is envelop ariza a city that has seen violent clashes between protesters and police want your thanks for joining us before we get to the latest violence reminds us way of the global south and even those in nature nation countries look to what's happening in chile as a chronicle of politics foretold the legacy of new liberal dictatorship by a good stupid machine surely. well thanks 1st of all for this interview this very important where the 7 here in chile we within knock only because of our country but also for the region and also because as you said she was in the in the seventy's in the eighty's under the dictatorship she doesn't like an experiment of the no
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liberal policies without a democratic process you know under a dictatorship so it today we. we're living in the in the rules that the boys as we said to this are going to missions who passed with milton friedman's policies before the newlyweds in the rest of the world she was the 1st experiment in the last 30 or 40 years has implemented to our development who is mainly focused on the concentration of our economy and the trickle down economy. ideology these demonstrations have relieved or release some energy who was very tied up inside of their people said mine of the people heart that it wasn't able to get to the end of the months without having to spend with credit so i think that when everything is privatized you can not access to the basic rights
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that should be granted where anted so i think this is one of the main issues whom people in the streets are. protesting on. if the privatization chicago privatization model is the same can you really look at the dead the wounded and the tamed in chile today and compare it though the nearest policies and positions policies. i think that the context of course are different between dictatorships not only that human one. but all the dictator city in the seventy's and eighty's are different that their soft dictatorships are different kind of the greater schieber are totally since in the 21st century so i think we are living today a lot of repression. different marlo's that. advocate the democratic
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whistle lucian's in order to change things for example this constitution this model and today we're discussing except that how the policies are not. enough for the population and the country is very polarized but the minute he wants to change the constitution's once a tool how to get higher wages went to heart more social security that we don't have because he's privatized so i think that yes but he says. the population is not . it's not enough that what he's putting on the table you know but it has to be said that in the era arguably like the former british backed dictator british a claims he has we need to comic lee successful he said he's reduced poverty route 65 percent to 8 percent according to what he said while the british state mandated b.b.c. . so let's be clear it has been successfully not because i mean he's one of the
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most billionaires people here in chile one of the top 5 billionaires and he like to make us one of the top 10 or 20 probably but our country. is not about democracy numbers today they are in employment it's high it's a day. or numbers of economic growth are not what was expected to be where it would be yes promises on campaign but more than that people cannot get into the end of the month people have asked to to to have credit in order to buy in the supermarket the basic incomes i mean a bit the basic thanks to to eat our economical elite house and get that didn't get the message until these days ok but then for you and your movement the trade unions and premier they're supporting a new constitution presumably an updated version of that new liberal pinochet 1980
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constitution but you for you it's not enough you want to constituent assembly plebiscites. this is what the yes sent a few days ago in national television. he said that he wants also new constitution but in terms of what is the mechanisms he didn't say anything new because the current constitution the constitution puts questions in order to change the going to dish and there are 2 thirds of the members of the of the house in order to change it until you know they caught the proposal of p. yet it's only rhetorical because they don't want to put a democratic constitution that doesn't pass describes so it's like a trap it's like a retake track but people are. informed people are reading the constitution people are starting to understand what are these locks that are
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from 981 from the communist might in pinochet's. constitution and our people are starting to realized that we doubt a process does a constituent process could be named assembly where you want to call it but we doubt this locks that very very tight it's impossible to have a democratic constitution ok your movement has shut down the apec conference where trump was supposed to sign a new u.s. a trade deal with china which he didn't bring also there was a climate overdue shutdown the what next because obviously the world news chile because of copper the world's largest copper production copper mines are in chile have you got the workers the copper miners on your side because according to financial news wires your movement is not affecting the copper commodity prices
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which presumably could be crucial. 1st of all it's i don't think this is my movement i feel that i don't river send exactly the movement of course we're on the streets but the movement. it doesn't have like a head or power to this leading it it's quite more decentralized and morally quick but i think that the demands of course are not to take down the cop conference or the opic because that's not the subject of the movement your question about the coverage workers there's a lot of support and there's a little bit of. strikes on on their minds but has not been until now a massive strike on the demining sector if the government sets there's going to be a referendum in order to choose their paths or for how we change the constitution probably did movement. celebrated as
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a victory ok but any expectation the international dock workers council may get a solidarity campaign going on 5 continents like when the liverpool strikes run here in 1905 is that the kind of where we're going and do you fear a military reprisal. well sadly the 1st days of opinion us response were military state of emergency and we have suffered 5 people dead killed killed by state agents we have more than 4000 people detained there has been people tried to there has been more than 200 people without and not a because of the shots that the police do today manifestations of the demonstrations so we're very worried about this spiral of violence that to take place on the streets because in the 1st place doesn't have a tradition of riots there are so high like this but when the police. act in their
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way get out they have been acting this weeks and of course people started to response and that's not something that we want we just want to this taking a political path but the government refused this so strictly we're having violation of human rights by the agents of the state and that's something that began that rejects. in other territories in our region but here in name in domestic land. was decided to send the repression in today's demonstrations to create a bigger gap between the demand and the response so people are not politicized and yesterday and probably without the political decision of the referendum it's difficult to get into a solution or your jackson thank you after the break award winning journalist greg
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palast on the return of the pink tribe surging across latin america from chile to brazil to ecuador and we explore the global tremors of a new release go to produce netflix film earth quake bird with the film's award winning director watch with me. but through going underground. join me every thursday on the alex simon sure and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see you then. as the tense situation in venezuela is still all over the news the problem in venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented but that socialism has been praised only implement from the inside venezuela things are different we're
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going to announce sanctions against petroleum to venezuela associate the. famous will have a son of a moment goes. down person that political battle to stay on the path to come up with a moment of focus the who story isn't new nixon called in henry kissinger to tell him that it would not be tolerated that in latin america an alternative economic and social system could take hold and therefore the policy would be to make. the chilean economy scream so what's now making the economy of venezuela screed.
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welcome back in the 1st half we heard from one of chile's most popular politicians about the struggle to free the country from the constitution of u.s. u.k. backed dictator augusto pinochet but for more of that and other fights for democracy taking place enough america i'm joined now by sky by award winning muckraker greg palast who's in los angeles california greg thanks so much for coming back on so we heard from a chilean politician you've been one of the world's greatest communicators about globalization what sit made you feel seeing violence say in chile could be the cradle of neo liberalism look this is an old story we've now had 4 decades of battles back and forth between the neo cons and globalization free market liberalization which basically means allowing u.s. and european companies to grab the resources of latin america they do it under the cover of free markets democracy which obviously doesn't involve respecting
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elections so i've seen this i was you know reporting on the ground out of venezuela out of peru out of argentina out of chile and so you know i've seen this again and again where then you have popular uprisings you know you have popular elections putting in people like google chavez you have a morale us you have the kitchener's in argentina you had progressive in battle it in. in chile and of course the neo cons the banks the big companies cannot stand it so they have so-called popular uprisings which are very popular because they can actually win elections and basically seize power gets a coup d'etat because you have a trumpet ministration there obviously fueled by a feeling of their complete backing of the u.s. state department of government you mentioned morale as the media here and you also mention resources talking not about resources b.b.c.
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it said he resigned amid turmoil cook caused by his reelection widely seen as 41 bloomberg said he quit c.n.n. that he resigned washington post resigned the new york times the end of tyranny what can you call it a clue. ok 1st of all there was an election and he won ok there's a dispute over whether there is no question there's a big dispute over whether he won enough to avoid a runoff but he won by a plurality of 10 percent ok i mean 10 percentage points is a landslide in any nation but it wasn't clear that the dispute was whether he wanted to avoid a runoff and instead this. dispute over whether he quote whether you want by a landslide in one clear or not resulted in an opening for foreign interests and of course the the right wing to try to seize power once again in the santa cruz area the rich area which basically the white you know you don't forget racism in this he was the 1st. indigenous person ever elected the head of
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libya which is an indigenous nation and there's a lot of racism and also his you know opposition to his progressive agenda so they seized power they were going to try to say let's have an election because he even offered and that wasn't good enough they literally seized the presidential palace guys who weren't elected an ultra right wing organizations that were seized the presidential palace and now they see you know they're trying to overwhelm the elected and i want to underline that the elected congress which are from the party of evil morales and so there it's about overturning democracy and you know this become a new trope i see this in in venezuela where the british and german and of course the trump government. has endorsed this guy why dos as the so-called
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president of venezuela he didn't even bother running for office and by the way in all these cases you'll notice something very very important the candidate is the president picked by foreign powers and again chosen by foreign powers not by the people are all white and racism is a gigantic part of the story of the control of latin america well i'm sure brussels and washington would deny racism but arguably they have failed in their attempts to overthrow the government of my doro of course because of the world's largest known oil reserves tell me about the school of the americas because 6 of the key plotters in bolivia went to the school of the americas what is that well as cool the americas as a kind of. it's a training ground basically for coup plotters what it is it supposed to be in place to to show latin american military how to behave properly you know that this is suppose it was started because latin american military was simply
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killing its citizens who were going to tell them how to control the population and do it politely without killing people in fact it became a school for coup plotters and of course encouraging the takeover of latin nations because the truth is that the us government and us corporations are quite unhappy with the idea of democracy in latin america it with venezuela oil was obviously an important element tell me about lithium because otherwise bolivia is just one of the poorest of the poorest country in latin america do we all carry a possibility here with us in our mobile phones and is that part of a crew yeah i mean one of one of the problems we've had this is all over the world live is not a special case it has lithium just as the democratic republic of congo has. cold hand and also lithium and uranium it's a resource grab it's the old game that. we had in the 19th century in the early 20th century of grabbing resources except we don't do it making the anymore we have
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to cover it up saying oh we're restoring democracy by removing elected officials let's face it if venezuela's main export were broccoli instead of oil they wouldn't care who's president they're not forget that in the case of venezuela to give you a clear example. of them and during government refused a request by the british government and british petroleum to turn over what was the french concession in venezuela to british petroleum to b.p. now have them endure a government that was 2 years ago of them endure a government simply handed b.p. the french concession in venezuela there would be no problem with the madeira government but madeira said no we're keeping it we're going to give it to the to the venezuelan oil company paid a basin and and it was at that point that the british government and of course all the other european governments said well then in that case you're not a legitimate president he would have been quite legitimate if you turned over the
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oil to b.p. well as you know b.p. and european union governments will deny that and say it's all about human rights act show me and we could also talk about the optimism of the return of the pink tide maybe at a later date i want to ask you now though about voter suppression you're an expert on it will the 2020 election in the united states be fair. no not a chance america is a great imitation of democracy but we remove in the last 2 years are you ready for this united states as the various states have removed 14000000 voters from the voter rolls it's called purging and they're removed you know it's like a and i'm up for the voter rolls to put in the crudest terms and they're removing mainly voters of color black people hispanic and a lot of young people and they use all kinds of of tricks and it's usually involving what we call jim crow or racist tactics but always with black voters and
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that's not just one state that's happening in 25 states in america. thank you very welcome. well themes of national identity surveillance and globalism are explored in the new ridley scott british netflix film earthquake bird which is just premiered on the service in the past 24 hours then the owner while detective story comes from the director of oscar winner still alice wash westmoreland and stars another oscar winner x. magners alice you have a calendar i went to meet the director in central london tell me about earthquake but earthquake bird is a story about a young woman who's living in japan in the 1980 s. and she's working as a translator and she gets drawn into a love triangle and becomes the prime suspect in a horrific murder so it's kind of a tokyo nor and it's going their civic and exec producer ridley scott the whole film is would you say very global let alone the lead actress or to speak in japanese is a global film we had a korean d.p.
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we heard of mainly japanese crew we had an australian producer alyse is from sweden and i'm from leeds i mean how global is an art and they all have jobs like this don't we're all going underground he said there's always an awareness of close and economic in the midst everything they're all having to put joy over all while they're going through mental trauma yes they are and you do get like clues into what their background has been and you know how they arrived at that economic position in japan why they're there and what their struggles are you think there is an element and the theme of the film i know it's from from a novel but of. getting to grips with grief there is absolutely a theme of going to get grips with grief i think ultimately it's a psychological thriller and you don't expect it to come through but it's about survivor's guilt it's about someone who's come into contact with a lot of death and is trying to process it in a way a lead character has p.t.s.d. she feels like she's a death magnet that so many you know traumatic events have been around her in the
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past and she's taking the guilt and the blame for so people watching. we'll learn something from within the not to blame themselves well there is a certain catharsis in the film yes that i feel people my connect to when they see it but obviously it's a super personal issue for anyone who's struggling with that this is just this one character and how she breaks through very important you know do oriental japan in the film you even takes waves that well yeah i mean you know it's a story of a westerner living in japan last thing i wanted to do was to like another exotic size they shouldn of japan or have sort of stereotypes just kind of been used over and over in western cinema so i really sort of my own approach was to avoid that i believe that the novel was written from that point of view too but also work very closely with japanese collaborators and all my crew is japanese and we very much
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formed a kind of very open communication about how to make this authentic and respectful to japanese way of life these are the people i want to hear from i don't want to hear it like after the films made i want to hear it before the film what is the earthquake or is it in the eyes of the viewer well i think earthquakes are events that unsettle you i think anyone's been like you think everything's normal and then suddenly everything around you start shaking so i think they are something that shows you that the reality that we perceive is actually fragile and our earthquakes are quite real because the sets were built on hydraulic platforms and there were bill in japan to test furniture and buildings for earthquakes and actually the earthquakes we used in the film are real of quakes like they have yokohama earthquake and the one that happened in the going up programmed into the
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hydraulic platform so there were real earthquakes that we saw has nothing to do with the 2 of you. godzilla the fear of earthquake there's no right there's no like is shaking the legs of the table and watching the ornaments wobble this is like the whole was actually physically having an earthquake and of course there was grief obviously in still alice in collette the grief as opposed as the patriarchy in the media this is a big field for you well here really the 3 films that i made most recently still alice color and earthquake bird are all very different genres but they have similarities are all about women struggling against things in their life. you know . how and is struggling against disease and her future and collette is struggling against her husband and the patriarch in her present tense and you know the character of lucy fly is really struggling to deal with her past and everything
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that she's brought with her from her home country and she's trying to forget about it in japan you sailors in orbit the way it's directed is nothing like forty's or fifty's in a war or maybe but the way to make that one you is not for everyone to pretend to be humphrey bogart you know that is just a pastiche and what to me is a crime drama with elements of psychology and style and that's what the true great wars were throughout history is really influenced by in war called out of the past by chuck turner that's kind of you know considered one of the our all time classics but also a contemporary neo nor are made by the chorus our called the cure that was made in the ninety's that had a big influence on the style and the town of the piece so i thought to do something new with no rb interested to do a gender inversion usually it's a guy who's escaping from the past and they have a. kind of dark and alluring and this would be a woman who's escaping from the past and she meets this guy who's an arm fatale who
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has a real attraction but also carries a real danger from you know the lead. mailer's are known for modeling yet well yeah the guy who plays taser is called naoki kobayashi and he's known into power as a pop star and a dancer and he's just started doing acting work with plays t.v. so really it was a huge sort of jump for him but he had so many qualities that worked so well for the character you have this intensity in this charisma and this intuitive understanding of the character so i found he did this sort of amazing portrayal of taiji and he worked very well with alysia like their chemistry and so it was terrific. bush thank you thank you wash west berlin director of earthquake but speaking to me there in central london and the film is available to stream on netflix now that's it for the show but we'll be back on monday with news of the world's most famous publisher imprisoned wiki leaks founder julian assange see on
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monday and then till then keep in touch by social media and subscribe going on the ground on your. china wants to trade russia wants to trade trump wants to trade the enemies or trade are conflict in a war as they love war and it seems like the top opposition parties in america are the war. your government and our government and all the other major governments of the world
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know what's going to them when it's going to. but they haven't told you and they haven't told me they haven't announced. imagine something as big as the earth. is going to cause tidal waves or earthquakes volcanoes erupt and it's going to chill. so very for a while right. my great grandfather's. nobody would care about the law or prison so you'd have wallace those should have. a terrible life between the and the.
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