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thing. i wonder if you believe that that's factually correct do you think the kremlin's beef with madame clinton was ultimately about her meddling in russia's domestic affairs or was it primarily because of her legacy on the international arena well i don't think that was a special attitude any sort of a life that's that's. apparent but for a politician especially for high rank politician and russia to like somebody or to dislike somebody is not the way how the the politics is shaped so they were quite ready to work with her. of course she personally representative of the kind of business in washington that nobody like that that's of course but this was known business but i mean was it about the business in washington was it about her support for as you put in protests in moscow back in 2000. or maybe the 3rd thing
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was it her policy in libya which is sad i mean if you believe the rumor mill in moscow it was a major thing that influenced by the what his decision to come back into politics in 2000 that's a fair point the 3rd point is this is a very fair war because you know all these protests and to sales and 112000 well that was already over. and considered itself the winner complete winner so none but i think that the middle east nothing in what was very important because not only libya but also syria. in my personal opinion well i mean for syria she wasn't there i mean she stepped on the secretary of state and what happened what happened in libya when one gets given ghazi was unfolding actually the the cia facility in benghazi was actually was governing the so-called program ocracy opposition in syria and it was raised by no. madam clinton so this is
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this she she had her hand in that in that game now these shows that we saw before if you and your friend celebrating were part of a march longer c.n.n. packaged about a week ago about how everything. is benefiting russia and some people may may have forgotten that this idea of tying trom directly to the kremlin was actually it actually originated with the clinton camp we know from the weekend leaks e-mails that it was mike but that's there her the chairman of her campaign who came up with this idea why do you think 3 years later after the miller probe after everything that didn't stick to dylan why are they still running away with this narrative i think they just don't have anything else they have nothing else to put it if they if they if they have something broadly they would have come with something something else but you know what can you say about it's a person yes he's nonstandard. economy is roaring. and look
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and he's and he's think humans normally in this situation. this president goes for the 2nd term and such kind of president goes with a 2nd term how can you pull him down these impeachment talks is it is is really very funny a says it's a scene from from anywhere outside united united states. i think many presidents and many political leaders did something like tom de to tool to selenski but awfully stupid to apply political pressure to get the result that you want i mean it's it's i mean that's how politics international politics is being done and i mean we don't need to go far you know there are lots of diplomatic cables that show that the american officials do that all the time in fact that's the main way the operate both the officials and the diplomats yes exactly and so also democratic politicians in congress. they also try to pressure ukraine not to investigate very
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small for instance oldest things out as a well known it is all it's obvious seen from here that it's a very duty political fight with no rules so in 3 years all these things like due process democracy rule of law etc etc it is all destroyed they just fighting with no rules now going back to that the search. is kremlin's puppet if we take it at face value do you think wilfully on nog has indeed been beneficial to moscow because i can understand how pleasing it may be to some people in this city to see these you know global american. had tammany crumble but that started on president obama where this one when it comes to domestic affairs i think russia is still paying a very have a prize both in terms of sanctions and in terms of lost economic opportunities for having these whatever you know fiction association of it donald trump well i don't
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think so because 80 percent of sanctions were imposed on them under obama as and so the columns are section sanctions that russia has imposed on some food products from europe and united states it's made in 3 years it made in the russian economy and russian for the action a little bit stronger so beneficial for russia is not what trump is doing but probably what he is not doing for instance he in the contrary to his predecessors he did not start any war because bush sr bush jr mr clinton mr obama the old start of the war in the 1st 3 years john did not so probably it is it is a little bit safer and more predictable in this perspective on the other hand the world is changing it is a turbulent world and it's not personally mr trump who is. making the world
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dangerous place he's just the symptom of the change that's it now i mentioned the expression opportunity costs and in his latest interview with fox president trump vantive he's frustration about how much these i'm healed being afeard on the part of the democrats is costing the country and he seemed to be very genuinely unearthed by that and yes i know that you claimed at all to mislead the whole impeachment proceeding is playing very handsome only into his own hands how well look. until now all these hearings. are looking like a great great offensive using very big resources spent on this offensive and this offensive fails so of course it's playing into the hands of the of the other side so. as far as polls are concerned a little there are a lot of disagreements about where the americans are looking after the impeachment
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but the in the metro effect is that nothing changed dramatically which means as if nothing happened in congress and therefore he just he's standing where he stood before the impeachment hearings started no nixon moment nothing no no no even clinton moments so easy is i think even much stronger now so they're really playing in his hands. i don't know if you would agree with me but i think the democrats are becoming increasingly slopped fear in the way they go about it take for example the latest letter by house speaker nancy pelosi in which she made all on the record remark that leaving the issue off in the white house to the elections would be a weak and dangerous choice i mean we are hearing all the it's various soviet sounding to my ear yeah but i mean exactly that's what i was going to ask you i
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think which ever way you interpret that that's a hair raising statement from an election elected official in a constitutional democracy yes exactly and it for a person born in a soviet union that sounds exactly like party leader would speak to let's say you know in a big city with his comrades don't do that that's a weak position it's not how the party should think. in that same letter madame madame pelosi also mentioned that. there was it was hard to reach and the duty of her colleagues to defend the constitution from all adam mayes both domestic and foreign and i'm sure you would agree with me that the democrats have already started casting the 2020 vote as either compromised or perhaps sam illegitimate do you think we have seen the worst of this squabble or do you think divorce does he have to come i think that now the fight will proceed
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that's that's for sure nobody is going to step back and that's the most dangerous think about about all this this is becoming very we're done a very scary because it's really a civil conflict it's not just conflict around donald trump it's a civil conflict in nuclear power and it's scary and it involves another in nuclear power as supposedly waging that. conflict exactly exactly so we're told that just that just think it's is becoming from fan it from funny to scary is going is going in this direction or as we like to say here and rush it would have been great fun if it wasn't so sad yeah exactly well michel we have to take a very short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. what
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politicians do something to. put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. or some want to. have to go right to be press this is what them before 3 in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters in the house. thinking of getting a view from the ones we got in here she. didn't know and still trapped in this tiny well why are we going to hear the crate with him he will just. freaking out when it's raining anywhere near thousands of breeding dogs and caged in inhumane conditions on puppies i mean 67 years you know they've been locked up in a cage outside you see no protection from the weather the heat you know the
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courtier the rain the snow the founder nothing they have no protection. to you. it's. the cross the us crew puppy mills are supported by dog shows and still most of the puppies that are coming from these large scale factory farming kind of operations are being small stores even giant a good business. are involved like the mum son to there has been a shocking amount of the organizing opposition to efforts to increase the standards of care for dogs bred in commercial breeding for so many most of that opposition is coming from huge agricultural groups and industries that have nothing to do with jobs. honest labor has spent a mollusc in america and the average income for americans hasn't budged at all in 2030 years because they were neutered from their ability to compete for
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capital labor has no seat at the table labor has no seat at the central bank labor has been abandoned the jobs have been shipped overseas wall street now gets all the crap they get 100 percent of the capital every dollar printed by the fed goes directly to wall street bypasses labor by passes away from. this community there are people who believe that it's ok to suffer actual food on my table it's really hard there are no jobs and you see that i've got kids that ask and as a parent. i can come up with lots of arguments and there's a lot of conflict within the game and between the teams most of the conflict i would say over the homes around money and most of them money is made. close one you know the children's clothes he know each other and this could be just the state of
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california alone to make $6000000000.00 you have to prison complex just to get some point in your life where. you don't care and one of my hair is a monster so your hair might do anything. good. he. means that you tired and need to move to me. to discredit. you. could want to talk about anything out of your canadian each you can tell me look at him with all. the read too much ha ha get to be a good tone quit on the author to get on with your affair when i'm in the good children tell him of all that you can fire when the family don't come.
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welcome back to worlds apart with me cheat the russian journalist with a focus on american politics. and off about trump let's talk about the other candidates just as the impeachment proceedings for gathering steam the democratic field god even wider former new york city mayor and one of the world's richest man mike bloomberg had the race. i wonder if you take that as an indication at
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least in some corners that joe biden who was thought to be the sort of the democratic frontrunner in the bass hope of defeating trump that he star may be fading well he's his star started to fade in 2015 when he refused to run democrats well he has a family reasons at that time he said to have family reasons i think that party just persuaded him not to run and even now there are rumors that obama is now persuading him not to run. all though i think that the democratic party the main thing for them is not suggests weeding back the white house i think. experts understand that that is that is unreachable that is beyond reach so what are they doing now it's the main problem is inside the democratic party who is a power new socialists or the old liberal establishment that's that's the point
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that's the that's the. that's the name of the fight you just mentioned president obama and he has been surprisingly absent from all of this i mean i would never see him on television to be never see him criticizing. if he is. a peer is you know that there were some indirect statements about impropriety or propriety of certain gestures but overall he is he seems to be out of politics do you think that's the case how much influence do you think he still has within the democratic party i think he has enough influence at least that that's that's the no one of the reasons why she's he's so quiet because. if he if he says something in favor of the candidates that will be that will be a bombshell but they he speaks some closed events lately some use came out that he was asking the democratic donors to pay more attention to the centrists to be
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more to the center that's american people are not yet rebelution or a nation all the things came out but for the press t.v. you know he's he signed on because he has too much influence and now speaking about the centrist this is definitely how mike bloomberg would like to position himself pretty much like trump he ran for office as a republican as an independent as a democrat he is a businessman his pouring his own money into the complaint although in much bigger numbers do you think trump has any reason to be concerned about bloomberg i don't think so i don't think so although michael bloomberg looks like you know the mirror brother all 4 of the trump to be had to be a donald trump on the democratic side but i think that's what michael bloomberg bloomberg is doing wisely is that he is saying let's bring america back to normality a little i think the world is already moved away far away from the from so-called normality of the old years but the main thing. why bloomberg is inside the
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democratic primaries is to make i think that's that's my that's my that's my point that he's trying to make the democratic national convention a contested one you know one of the things that struck me about the coverage of bloomberg antrim into the race was the fact that the republicans even the trump ists seem to be far more respectful of him than some of the democrats i mean i was watching steve valens interview on on fox and he was very gracious about bloomberg he didn't think that bloomberg has the charisma to be trying but he said that he's sophisticated he's resourceful and off to change the color versation to change the the flow of the democratic campaign do believe that to be the case and it will be well could be the case at least 2 we have no reason not to not to not to believe mr bannon because mr bannon is is a very noble 1st and about about what is going on in washington what what bennett
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said actually was that bloomberg invested into 25 come things in 2018 and he was 23 of them so he knows how the how the how this game is played he went to bed and said is that bloomberg knows how to apply money to politics but he also said money in and of itself is not enough you have to have that charisma and one of the criticisms of mike bloomberg is that he is clever he has a lot of resources but he lacks the. communicative style that you need these days to reach out to the ordinary voter well i think the let's say the idea of his image makers of mr bloomberg is just to bring back the now not at the let's go to the very dull times will everything was just quiet nothing happens no trump nothing of this no populist no socialist just back to business that could that could play out in some and some hearts of democrats well i i may disagree with you
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partially of this because i think the funny thing about bloomberg is that on the one hand he tries to position himself as an alternative to the leftist wing of both warrant and bernie sanders but the way out ahead when you look at his policy agenda it is if not cleft is then left to fish and i think that sounds a lot about what the democratic party has become this union of super rich with the socialist slash anarchists do you think that's a sustainable coupling is that a sustainable arrangement out and where do you see the damps moving ideologically as they deal with the challenge of donald trump well i don't think they will produce a serious challenge to donald trump in 2020 but as far as. what i what i mean is that donald trump is giving a substantial challenge and they have to come up with some ideological agenda that will and that's and then also the social order you cannot defeat with the old old
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style you can try to defeat him with socialism but that's that's americans will to american voters to decide whether they buy socialism or not but socialism was politically would say the very if to say new idea for americans and it's very popular among younger people but in general the they should couple with with the reach people that's that's should happen because this is the united states of america where politics is big money. what are you essentially saying is that the democratic party is becoming the old republican party that was supported by big corporate donors but claims you appeal to the average well publican party over there was appealing to the creator of the socialists in the in the democratic party has the destructors they try to disrupt the the society disrupt the family disrupt everything so this is more like you know some rich people in the old saddam
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structure that were supporting bolsheviks the more or less resembling the times that's an interesting and now since we mentioned bloomberg let me ask you about another last child of the democratic party and i'm talking about to see galbraith who is now presented as yet another kremlin puppet and i think it's true that her and she wore rhetoric makes her popular in russia but that certainly doesn't justify calling her a putin's girl. why do you think the democrats are so persistent in calling him playing doc card is that because as you said before perhaps that they cannot come up with anything else or maybe that's because they still believe it could be a fact. i don't think they even even they believe that this is the case but it's it's a convenient talking points like he didn't work with trump i mean what chance there is of it working with a nice even if you don't know it's not
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a lot of ticks they had courage to acknowledge that some things did not work let's not start it once again then after iraq they would not start to leave they're not trying to do the same thing with syria and iran but at least there were there were there was different context here the context is the same and the allegations of the save the i mean they awarded in the exact same war yes and the by the way have voiced by the way by the very same people because one of the people propagating this smear is none other than hillary clinton again yes and by the way if you if you remember republican rand paul was also questioned whether he works for putin so i think that it's also comes up to chomp to pull and to to suggest that you cannot question the 2 party consensus about foreign policy if you challenge the consensus this militaristic consensus then you are the enemy of the nation that's what
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they're trying to see the easiest way to say this is to say that your real assets of kremlin because otherwise it will be to us will see too complicated for american people just see all this is the russian game now this russian agent smear presupposes that whatever russia aspires to is automatically bad and i'm american and clearly that's the you know they do must prove it to a primitive form of bigotry but i think what's ironic is that it's being propagated by the wing of the democratic party that has had the most extensive contacts with the kremlin i mean both of the bidens of the clintons they have dealt with russia and those interactions were not always. that negative if you know what i mean and to deny that ride to the trumpet ministration to have any sort of relationship with moscow isn't that ultimately a betrayal of american national interest because whatever you think about russia i
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think everybody would understand that washington and moscow as 2 nuclear powers a bound to have some sort of a relationship and hopefully. adversarial one well i say this it's exactly right and you know good experts. people who think they see the same thing in the united states i can i can name a couple of full colleagues of yours. central to the cable television in the united states that are just putting the same point but the problem is with this with this establishment is it is still there you know it is the problem is here is that they're trying to. preserve their power and their power is just rooted in militaristic foreign policy and in the policy of deterring russia
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there is nothing to deter anymore but these roots in this cold war. ideology if you put away the cold war. the establishment is god and so they understand that a soon as the cold war is gone and the dialogue or whatever begins between the great powers they lose their power and that's a problem for them that's why that's why they're still sticks to this old narrative well that's the problem not only for them but for has as well but we have to leave it there thank you very much for sharing your insights with us it's been a pleasure i encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going on our social media pages as for me and the team we hope to syria same place same time on worlds apart.
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thinking of getting it from the ones we got in here she. didn't know what to do in this time you know why are we going to near the crate with him he will just. freaking out and she won't want to spray him anywhere near. breeding dogs or caged in inhumane conditions on puppies i mean 67 years you know they've been locked up in cages outside you see no protection from the weather the heat you know the courtier the rain the snow the founder nothing they have no protection. you. know it's. the cross to us cruel puppy mills are supported by dog shows and
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most of the poppies that are coming produce large scale factory farming kind of operation it's hard being small stores even joined a good businesses. involved like the mum son to there has been a shocking amount of organized opposition to adverts to increase the standards of care for dogs bred in commercial breeding for so many most of that opposition is coming from huge agricultural groups and industries that have nothing to do with jobs don't buy dog. in this community there are people who believe that it's ok to sell for actual food it's really hard there are no jobs and you see that i've got kids that ask and as a parent. i can come up with an argument and there's a lot of conflict within the game and between the 2 and most of the conflicts i would say are overhauls around money and most of them money is made to close one of
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the children's o.c.d. know each other and this could be just the state of california alone to make $6000000000.00 a year of prison complex just to get some point in your life where. you don't care anymore nobody cares about your so your care might anything. labor has been demolished in america and the average income for americans hasn't budged at all in 2030 years because they were neutered from their ability to compete for capital labor has no seat at the table labor has no seat at the central bank labor has been abandoned the jobs have been shipped overseas wall street now gets all the crap they get 100 percent of the capital every dollar printed by the fed goes directly to wall street bypasses labor bypasses ways of.
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islamic states claims responsibility for friday stabbing in london which left 2 people dead the perpetrator was known to the authorities. some us democrats are calling for the pro republican folks news t.v. network to be registered as a foreign agent. and in france residents in rwanda still demanding answers and action from the government 2 months on to a massive chemical factory fire left to toxic cloud over the city. from our mosco studio this is.
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