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are is concerts it is well planned and it is exceedingly well executed and it is only possible through the holes of special services then we have to ask which special services in the world of holland it will or you merely need to do is look at the some cool protests in hong kong and it might get you they are no longer protesters they are militants look at the flanks they are waving they are waving american and british so let's look at the answers they are singing they are seeing in the american and british and from look at the support the political support they are now citizens from america this week we had donald trump signed in seoul all. package which condemns china and risks american terrorists because of the so-called ritesh and in hong kong so it is my
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opinions that american and british services are tense in to the stabilized destabilized no right yes no it hong kong is a big revenue and for beijing well i hope so but mostly you know what they want to go but what is happening here is that they're hurting themselves hong kong and in the process here deem one of the interesting things is that if you look at the media you know it's all about democracy or you know why you think waving a british colonial flag there was no democracy in heart in hong kong under british colonial rule what are they talking about or is it just a talking point obviously this wasn't the right kind of colonialism it was british colonialism if not russian colonialism or spanish colonial but i just love this you know in their water drawn oh you know what they describe their peaceful protesters who were just staying in for their freedom so then just the next paragraph one. the
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police collect a contraflow more of cork tales hold out baskets of premature weapons in the golden sleeve insurance balls with their office and clean the wreckage with hundreds of people that you know so you know the western media controls are the peaceful protesters or do they have contracts of more difficult it's the same story as with tea you know that the western media wants to have it both ways they want to intimidate the government doing to me did that and at the same time to have this image of purely peaceful protest is one of the interesting seeing robert i think it is fascinating again looking at the through the media prism you would. if you would get the impression that hong kong and china are 2 different places you would get the impression that hong kong is not part of china and that it's a narrative a media narrative that is being pushed this is an internal affair of china well if you look if you look at the at the end china legislation the trumpets pushing
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through it's very it's very ironic to me that one of them is that it bans the export of non-lethal munitions ok so we're talking about tear gas. tasers pepper spray ok so it's interesting to me that these are the exact type of weapons that the western governments regularly use against their own people i mean notably in paris for example in paris france what's happening there we had a visit of those protesters i mean people having their eyes shot out with rubber bullets ok so. when the west in the west does something like this this is fantastic it's the protection of democracy but when china does it here we have you know grave human rights violations but i just love that you know that off president trump when these bill i signed this bill out of respect for the president see china that people can call well you don't. see is interesting because it's so. i'm
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not really sure it's even hypocrisy and i think it's going to look really good but you know but marcus i mean this is clearly an attempt to create a hostile relationship with beijing i mean this is something i was the it was a unanimous decision in congress here i mean again this is using sanctions as a political weapon and and it's baiting beijing to do something they want something to happen so far nothing has other than some rhetoric coming out of beijing what's the gambit here go ahead mark. well it's not just hong kong that is on the radar the americans and british there is another region it's all china that in my opinion we go truly institutes and achilles heel off china and that is the western most region of china it's a largely speak in muslim inhabits it's region cools down jean jacques campaigns
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that this is a region but i have been talking with russian officials and chinese officials for about 5 years now and it's my conclusion that jim shank not at the moment it's henschel it could become what chechnya was to russia in the night of the ninety's and early 2000 and believed in wounds because we're starting to read now in american major and in british major these kampala legally malicious and outrageous and unfounded allegations that the chinese authorities have set up a concentration camps in gene shank know what the situation is in james is that it is a hope it's true islam it's under mentalism and the chinese military and the chinese police are cracking down as they should be but of course we know that the americans and the real cajun siege accumulation this is something we have seen before this is
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another playbook here there's a go ahead jim i'm going to jump in well it's amazing that the western press itself report that several years ago or that the so-called islamic state was actually active printing jack and another more than we know that people from that region aren't were in syria would be the same story with burma you know when it happened when there were problems with them or the minority that but it's very interesting you know they say go with liberalism formally it's about all been border supporting internationalist spirit kind of but when they fight their enemies and these are usually big countries such as russia china. immediately they pick the enemy it's you know their neighbor or that mine or it gets inside this congress and the west supports what kind of crude national is going to say action of yugoslavia which actually knows a lot about i q a croatian fascists against serps ukrainian polish nationalists against russia now more than fundamentalist against china so it's
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one of them mazing traits and latent features of these noted that if they're not going to liberate it using into all others in the name of human rights something about god to the coverage that it had on hand and internationalism in the name or walk. i think you pretty much covered them above one thought one thing i think that needs to be added is that while the west while the united states and nato through many decades of the regime change operations you know we are investing our money in what war ok what was trying to investing in to do so the new silk road to the west is invest in besting in war for outcomes it cannot control markets reflect upon that because i've said on this program 10 years now is it when does the regime change operation actually bring positive results and always ans and disaster misery and destruction go ahead marcus yes it does and the latest example of spots is in
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ukraine where the average ukrainian us and is now suffering in. place that's took place in 2010. awaits and death and destruction it always benefits american global and germany and this regime change the straits by wilson said it's not going to end the libya is the most recent example that i can cite who might want to mark as you and i and unite very very often agree with each other and i would i would our cut i'll meet you halfway on that. it had germany is extended for a time period but it is a very unstable he germany dimma jump in well you're absolutely right that this is germany that benefits because the united states as a country was financially because of what happened in ukraine the ukrainian market shrank relations with russia soured there were mutual sanctions between the united states the u.
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and russia so basically the western globalists there rigged to move their taxpayers' money in huge amounts all the to have the votes so if you have to measure money and they may properly it's with the owner and they're entrepreneurs mind you also well with concord what is interesting is that the market did not react to this so called hong kong. freedom and democracy act they almost didn't but i threw in a really refused to even use the term ok let me repeat so or will you keep finishing. the markets did not react but the point is that the united states government now will have to make a report every year how autonomous hong kong is so this is bad for business because it's not of their business count on it was from coal is now it's it became a part of china basically there is a transition period there is free press in concord there are many anti-gay chinese newspapers coming out of south china morning post you know hong kong free press
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there in english there are available bill there were elections recently so it's not of the business of the united states all of the you can to check how democratic well. fortunately world the world works differently when we go to a break here after a short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news day with 30. what holds its institutions a little. bit put themselves on the law and. they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president or injury. or something want to be rushed. into the right to be cross this is what it looks like the 3 of them all can't be good that i'm interested always in the waters of color. they should.
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show some same drawl but old roles just don't call. me old if you get to say proud disdain become educated and engagement equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground the. honest labor has spent a mollusc in america and the average income for americans hasn't budged at all in 2030 years because they were neutered from their ability to compete for capital labor has no seat at the table labor has no seat at the central bank labor has been abandoned the jobs have been shipped overseas wall street now gets all the
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crap they get 100 percent of the capital every dollar printed by the fed goes directly to wall street bypasses labor bypasses way to. get his community there are people who believe that it's ok actually it's really hard there are no jobs and you see that i've got kids that ask and as a parent. i can come up with lots of arguments and there's a lot of conflict within the game and between the teams close to the conflict i would say throw balls around money and most of them money is made. close one on the children's cosimo each other is good business the state of california alone makes 6000000000 dollars you have to prison complex just to get some point in your life where. you don't care anymore nobody cares about you so you don't care might
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anything. welcome back across the uk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real names. ok let's go back to marcus in london we have an upcoming nato summit it's been truncated for to 2 days i guess they want to avoid any fireworks they wanted to have a perfectly scripted summit as they usually do but it seems to me that there are different. trajectories in play for the possible future of nato now one thing is for sure nato needs to exist it exists to exist that is its primary objective and to do that it needs to expand but mccrone the part of french president came out and said that nato was brain dead which of course i very rarely agree with the french
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president but i agree with him on this point and i tend to agree that that's donald trump's gut feeling too but that's a tough a topic for another program marcus brain dead nato go ahead well you know i would want to say nothing more than to note this decadence this terrorist this wretched criminal organization cools coast abject pain and suffering for over 20 years now but whilst i believe that nato has overstretched itself i have an expanded since recent year i haven't expanded into the old 6 states i do not see its imminent demise in date i don't see the minus as so i believe that if you just look at a map of europe the fact that ukraine as each state goes into great seeing more and more with the west makes that nato is even more important and gets wrong
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forget boris johnson that's the. get match wrong there are real people in power in america britain and france are the ones you don't see and their commitments and they cannot be challenged it cannot be broken we spoke recently about the amounts of money the americans who are deemed secret since in 6014 and yes you know that money has gone on ukrainian corruption but the americans get something in return they are increasing their presence and with it nato presence in ukraine the americans and not just axes in on the ukrainian lands they are active now at ukrainian poles they are challenging russia in the black sea and the whole surprise for nato is ukraine's accession to notes and ok the aussies are good people. but it is possible it's it's it is possible be
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a member but i tend to think if you look at what. was coming in was coming out of berlin it was coming out of paris i think there are some different ideas being thought of here i mean mccrone it seems to me wants to recreate some kind of napoleonic empire ok or is someone on cross told means must week as a. once they're essentially sell the french military to the germans ok but at least a capital b. in paris but the brain dead in statement is important here because it does show a different vision here well i'm not really sure if it's going to work i know that there mccrum wants to be another de gaulle which there's only $1.00 only i will be only one to go on the air but i mean even the there are the ports isn't in washington the you know the the this is the land take a lion's world but there are some new things happening right here because there are tensions over the most interesting thing about this statement from micron about the brain death of nato was their reaction to it how important nato leaders are you
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know so america. and you said you want your destructive policy on there to glue together. what she did in ukraine ok so why is she an authority on anything there absolutely well the polish prime minister there was more advanced also scalded micron you know saying that he statement was irresponsible i mean look how intolerant these people are and they accuse. everyone was angry because marc wrong invited the leaders of kurdish groups you know to paris he was also angry because lindsey graham in the united states is facilitating their visa for someone whose real name is up dish and he in but who is called general called bani by by the u.s. well i mean how would you react if someone who is can see that a terrorist in your country is welcome to you but by the president do you bring up these inconvenient you know what my point is here is that the media is projecting
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this seamless unanimous forward blah blah blah you know but you get this in a few seconds you get you gave us some real differences here there is a fish should between turkey and the rest of nature there is a fish to be in france and germany and east european countries on the other side but what is most important i agree with mark was you know what he said in the beginning that nato has caused more wars recently than it prevent it i mean the wars in ukraine in georgia i ask andrea real foreign policy expert he will tell you the real reason the real reason was the decision to expand you know war georgia and ukraine were promised nato membership in 2000 immediately was started in these countries why because this is unacceptable for russia and because these countries leaders felt kind of. russia you know robert let's be fair here and maybe
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marcus will disagree with me. during the cold war i and i understand the need for existence of nato during the cold war the warsaw pact dissolved nato should have dissolved is absolutely you know very knowledgeable about all of this here but if you look at you know george in ukraine i mean i think most americans don't understand people in the western world don't understand that the west has no treaty obligations to ukraine whatsoever but as marcus told us a few minutes ago you would know that from the media and from the the clueless bureaucrats that went in front of chairmanships committee for a material kind of a role what are we doing patrick and i'm going to st in my mind you know but you know it gets down to no matter how you want to spin it its mission to exist is an anti russian expression institutionally no absolutely and i would i would probably
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argue that it's less the nato is so-called brain dead as it is purposeless dead i mean purpose dead there just doesn't seem to be any coherent activity on their part action aside from what you're saying peter is just moving closer and closer and closer to the russian border and probably and probably mostly in provoking the situation provoking you have this is the 1st time in i don't know how many years. the western troops have been right smack on russia's border this is a tremendously dangerous thing and it could the slightest little altercation could really and we have. a windy and rainy and trying to reach out but he won't have pressure in washington and in the political satirist really encamp not to move forward georgian president saakashvili he would have never backed off if he didn't feel reassured a few months before that at the nato summit in bucharest when they said georgia will join their alliance in the south you know distant future we don't know where
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he's he's read. and all that signal was. not waken stuck to war now i can crush these separatists you know so in this way nato provoked more conflicts in the last i would say 10 to 15 years than it actually. marcus i want to switch gears here the recent attack on london bridge which i think should outrage all of us. i can't even use the language on this program to express my outrage here is a man that was convicted of being involved in a terrorist operation had his sentence have to in released because he was rehabilitated how can people be real ability to when they have contempt for your institutions and their culture how can you how that happened this is an outrage because what i see from the british elites in the media that people should be given a 2nd chance fine but victims only get one chance please reflect upon that and to i
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think i'm my tone and tenor are correct here go ahead marcus. iter london has a cancer and has had this cancer for many years now and that chance is violence not just in the form of terrorism islamist terrorism but also in the full night crime and gun crime and despite that what do we hear from the mayor of london city car what do we hear from these its so-called schuman white screeds all we hear about other lots of perpetrators other white soul terrorists other lots of people who commit knife crimes are the rights of people who commit gun crimes other the rights of people who for passes in people's faces not just at night in broad daylight and even though once again we london has experienced a number horrendous terrorist attack no steps are going to be taken in large
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measure because of political correctness and this problem is not going away it is costing the lives of innocent londoners while i would like to hear from my men because i live and love that what i'd like to hear from these human rights groups is how the ordinary man and woman as our in london 8 protect it from terrorists from gap and culture from people from an assett impedance faces i don't want to hear about how in schools children from the age of 5 must be taught because it's a human rights that if they don't feel like a boy or they don't feel like to get out they can go to any consenting lunt that may have sex shane and the others there is and 1st thoughts as who are carrying out these operations on children as young as 10 commits in order to use this is what this is a big this is what this is about this is an attack on our culture is what it is and
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it's people taking advantage of one of our greatest virtues. through the centuries is our tolerance but it's been trampled upon 30 seconds 30 seconds go absolutely i mean what's happened in london what struck me about this attack is that the 1st thing i read was that the perpetrator was shot dead by 2 police officers. i found that i kind of ironic that england is letting in all of these unrestricted immigrants into the country ok but yet they're not letting the people protect themselves and it seems to me that pretty soon people are going to start saying hey if you're going to let all these people into our country unlimited without any restrictions let us have let us arm ourselves ok well at least don't let the criminals out of prison or out of prison like that it's outrageous here finish up the program i'm kind of angry well there is also a huge discrepancy between the 4 important shielding within france and the
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terrorist threat i mean. president tonsil it was never involved in any terrorist acts in england or france russia was never involved iran was not involved in the last at least 20 years but all we have seen of the western media is how bad also this how bad russia is how but iran is so there's a huge discrepancy in the people who could meet that crime stereograms in paris and london for against asa do you know the ones who made that wrist act in the eighty's about the one so i think this is the most absurd you know that's a very good point to end this program you know and i hope people reflect upon it that's all the time we have gentlemen many thanks to my guests here in moscow and in london thanks to our viewers for watching us here on g c unix time remember. the world is driven by dream shaped by.
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