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a low in welcome to. democracy or more meddling in the internal affairs of china also can nato as european members reimagine the alliance and more terror on the streets of london. talking some real news i'm joined by i guess robert bridge he's in our website writer also we have dimitri bobbitt she's a political analyst and editor at me internet media project and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he is the editor. politics 1st magazine hi gentlemen

crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime one and i always appreciate it let's go to marcus 1st in london let's talk about. the trump and ministrations agreement least tacitly to sanction the china over what's going on in hong kong when this something i just don't really seem to understand i mean out and looking at hong kong i know that there's an enormous amount of inequality there that is the responsibility of the hong kong government and it's a one country 2 systems so why all the arrow at beijing and of course we know the united states is cheering it on along with its western allies as an irritant to china go ahead marcus your thoughts well it or anyone here is o'shea pikelets or can concludes that what is happening in hong kong or indeed what has been happening since the summer is concerts it is well planned and is exceedingly well

executed and it is only possible through the holes of special services that we have to ask which special services in the wilds of holland it will or you merely need to do is look at the so cool protests in hong kong and in my opinion they are no longer protests as they are militants look at the flats they are waving they're waving american and british so let's look at the absolute they're singing they are saying in the american and british out from look at the support the political support they are now citizens from america this week we had donald trump signed in seoul all. package which condemns china and risks american tariffs because of the so-called refreshen in hong kong so it is my opinion. that american and british artists have

seen it. belies destabilize right yes hong kong is a big. beijing well. you know what what is happening here is that they're hurting themselves hong kong and in the process here demon one of the interesting things is that if you look at the media you know it's all about democracy or you know why you think waving the british colonial flag there was no democracy in hong kong under british colonial rule what are they talking about or is it just a talking point obviously this was the right kind of colonialism it was british colonialism it was not russian communism or spanish colonial but i just love this you know in their. drawing though you know 1st they describe their peaceful protesters who were just staying in for their freedom so then just the next paragraph or the police collect a contraflow more of cork tales hold out baskets of premature weapons cynical

wooden sleeve insurance balls with their office and clearing the wreckage with hundreds of people injured you know so you know the western media controls i think peaceful protesters or do they have contracts of more difficult it's the same story as with key you know the western media wants to have it both ways they want to intimidate the government doing timid the and at the same time to have this image of purely peaceful protests which is one of the interesting seeing robert i think is fascinating again looking at the through the media prism you would. if you would get the impression that hong kong and china are 2 different places you would get the impression that hong kong is not part of china and that it's a narrative a media narrative is being pushed this is an internal affair of actually china well if you look if you look at the at the end china legislation the trumpets pushing through it's very very ironic to me that one of them is that it bans the export of

non-lethal munitions ok so we're talking about tear gas. tasers pepper spray ok so it's interesting to me that these are the exact type of weapons that the western governments regularly use against their own people i mean notably in paris for example in paris france what's happening there we had a visit of those protesters i mean people having their eyes shot out with rubber bullets ok so. when the west when the west does something like this this is fantastic it's the protection of democracy but when china does it here we have you know grave human rights violations but i just love that you know that off president trump when these bill i signed this bill was out of respect for the president see china that people can call well you don't. see is interesting because it's so. i'm not really sure it's even hypocrisy and i think it's going to look really good

but you know but marcus i mean this is clearly an attempt to create a hostile relationship with beijing i mean this is something it was the it was a unanimous decision in congress here i mean again this is using sanctions as a political weapon and and it's baiting beijing to do something they want something to happen so far nothing has other than some rhetoric coming out of beijing what's the gambit here go ahead mark. well it's not just hong kong that is on the radar also the americans and the british there is another region it's all china that in my opinion we go truly constitutes an achilles heel off china and that is the western most region of china it's a largely speak in muslim and how it's region cool and. how piece of this is a region but i have been talking with russian officials and chinese officials for

about 5 years now and it's my conclusion that. not at the moment it's henschel it could become what chechnya was to russia in the night of the ninety's and early 2000 and bleedin wounds because we're starting to read now in american major and in british major these completely malicious and outrageous and unfounded allegations that the chinese authorities have set our concentration camps in june shan't know what the situation is in change is that it is a hope it's true islam it's under mentalism and the chinese military and the chinese police are cracking down as they should be but of course we know with the americans and the siege accumulation this is something we have seen before this is another playbook here there's a go ahead jim i'm going to jump in well it's amazing that the western press itself

report that several years ago or that the so-called islamic state was actually active printing jack and another more than we know that people from that region aren't were in syria would be the same story with burma you know when it happened when there were problems with them or the minority that but it's very interesting you know they say go with liberalism call money it's about all been border you know supporting internationalist spirit kind of but when they fight their enemies and these are usually begun just such as russia china. immediately they pick the enemy as you know their neighbor or that mine or it gets inside this congress and the west supports what kind of crude national is going to say action of yugoslavia which in fact is knows a lot about like the way croatian fascists against serps ukrainian polish nationalists against russia now more than fundamentalist against china so it's one of them mazing traits and latent features of these noted that if they're

not going to proliferate using into all others in the name of human rights that that's the coverage had on hand and internationalism in the name of obama and woe to you i think you pretty much covered him above one thing i think that needs to be added is that while the west while the united states and nato through many decades of the regime change operations you know we are investing our money in what war ok what was trying to investing in to do so the new silk road to the west is invest in besting in war poor outcomes it cannot control markets reflect upon that because i've said on this program 10 years now is it when does the regime change operation actually bring positive results and always ans and disaster misery and destruction go ahead marcus yes it does and the latest example of spots is in ukraine where the average ukrainian honest and is now suffering in. place

places 6000 saying well. it's a waste and death and destruction it always benefits american global and germany and this regime change history by wilson said it's not going to end the libya is the most recent example but i can cite my question americans if you would aren't you nice very very often agree with each other and i would i would meet you halfway on that. it had gemini is extended for a time period but it is a very unstable had gemini dimma jump in well you're absolutely right that this is germany that benefits because the united states as a country was financially because of what happened in ukraine the ukrainian market shrank relations with russia soured there were mutual sanctions between the united states and russia so basically the western globalists there

a get to move their taxpayers' money in huge amounts all need to have the hotel that have the major money and they make properties with the islands entrepreneurs money also well with hong kong what is interesting is that the markets did not react to this so-called hong kong. freedom and democracy act they almost didn't but i threw everything i refused to even use the term ok definitely so where will you keep finishing. the markets did not react but the point is that there are 19 states government now will have to make a report every year how autonomous hong kong is so this is bad for business because it's not of their business how much when it was is now it's it became a part of china basically there is a transition period there is free press in there are many chinese newspapers coming out of south china morning post you know hong kong free press there in english

there are available bull there were elections recently so it's not of the business of the united states all of the you can to check how democratic well you know that's the answer fortunately world the world works differently when you go to a break here after a short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news stay with her thing. ok in the special something we can. develop the. yeah but if it doesn't. you talked a whole doping can russia think was over forget it. the formula talked about earlier competitive pressure we have the most they are some of the models of the. russian outlets eligibility for the international competition says that state this

includes events like the tokyo olympics and the fee for world cup and qatar if i am in the early as last. year when you come in you know just as it was 4 years ago in moscow anti-doping plavix at the center of the scandal so who tampered with the doping samples database and what does greegor you or she got to do with it and you know she still does want to talk to paul mean it doesn't suck up with the spokesman that he's shown that. he will ship might expose me in the shuttle to the pollution and then there's no. welcome back across the uk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok let's go back to marcus in london we have an upcoming nato summit it's been

truncated to 2 days i guess they want to avoid any fireworks they wanted to have perfectly scripted summit is they usually do well it seems to me that there are different. trajectories in play for the possible future of nato now one thing is for sure nato needs to exist it exists to exist that is its primary objective and to do that it needs to expand but mccrone the french president came out. said that nato was brain dead which of course i very rarely agree with the french president but i agree with him on this point and i tend to with agree that that's donald trump's gut feeling too but that's a tough topic for another program marcus brain dead nato go ahead well you know peter i would want to say nothing more than the demise of nato this decadence this terrorist this wretched criminal organization cools coos abject

pain and suffering for over 20 years now but whilst i believe that nato has overstretched itself i haven't expanded since reese and your i haven't expanded into the boat experience i do not see its imminent demise indeed i don't see it's the mayas absolute i believe that if you just look at a map of europe the fact that ukraine as each day goes by is insecure eating more and more with the west makes that nato is even more important in court to get trump to forget boris johnson if it gets matter of the real people in power in america britain and france are the ones you don't see and their commitments and later can not be a challenge that cannot be broken we spoke recently about the amounts of money the american support d.n.c. trent's since the coup in 2014 and yes you know that money has gone on ukrainian

corruption but the americans get something in return they are increase in their presence and with it nato is present in ukraine the americans and not just axis in all ukrainian lands they are active now at ukrainian poles they are challenge in russia in the black sea and the old summer cries for nader is ukraine's accession and it's only ok that is what he will. but it's possible. it's it is possible but i tend to think if you look at what. was coming in was coming out of berlin and was coming out of paris i think there's some different ideas being put on it here i mean mccrone it seems to me wants to recreate some kind of napoleonic empire ok or is someone on cross told means must weak is a mccrone once they're essentially sell the french military to the germans ok but

at least a capital b. in paris but the brain dead statement is important here because it does show a different vision here well i'm not really sure if it's going to work i know that mccrone wants to be another de gaulle which there's only one to go and only i will be only one to go on the air but i mean the there are the forces in washington the you know the the a lion's world but there are some new things happening right here because there are tensions you know the most interesting thing about this statement from mark crowing about the brain death of nato was their reaction to it how important need to lead us are you know chancellor merkel of germany of said you want your destructive policy and there have to glue together they will look at what she did in ukraine that case so why is she an authority on anything there absolutely well the border. i mean it's that there was more advanced also it's called micron you know saying that he statement was irresponsible i mean look how tolerant these people are and

they accuse. everyone was angry because marc wrong invited the leaders of kurdish groups you know to paris he was also angry because graham when they were at the states is facilitating their visa for someone whose real name is up the shot here but who is called general called bani by by the u.s. well i mean how would you react if someone who is can see that terrorist in your country. is welcome to you bit by the president do you bring up these inconvenient you know what my point is here is that the media is projecting this seamless unanimous. blah blah blah you know but you get this in a few seconds you get you gave us some real differences here there is a fish it between turkey and the rest of nature there is a fish to be in france and germany east european countries or the other side but

what is most important i agree with mark was you know what he said in the beginning that nato has caused more wars recently than it prevent that i mean the wars in ukraine in georgia i ask andrea real for important expert he will tell you the real reason the real reason was there decision to expand you know war georgia and ukraine were promised nato membership in 2000 immediately was started in these countries why because this is unacceptable for russia and because of these countries leaders felt kind of. russia you know robert let's be fair here and maybe marcus will disagree with me during the cold war i and i understand the need for existence of neat-o. during the cold war the warsaw pact dissolved nato should have dissolved is absolutely you know very knowledgeable about all of this here but if you look at

you know george in ukraine i mean i think most americans don't understand people in the western world don't understand that the west has no treaty obligations to ukraine whatsoever but as marcus told us a few minutes ago you would know that from the media and from the the clueless bureaucrats that went in front of chairmanships committee for him only material kind of the old what do we do it how can it was saint in my mind you know but you know it gets down to it no matter how you want to spin it it's its mission. and to exist is an anti russian expression institutionally no absolutely and i would i would probably argue that it's less the nato is so-called brain dead as it is purposeless dead i mean purpose dead there just doesn't seem to be any coherent activity on their part action aside from what you're saying peter is just moving closer and closer and closer to the russian border and preventing it really mostly in provoking the situation provoking you have this is the 1st time in i don't know

how many years. the western troops have been right smack on russia's border this is a tremendously dangerous thing and a kid the slightest little altercation could really and we have. lindsey and we pray and trying to reach out but he wouldn't have pressure in washington and in in the political satirist really encamp not to move forward georgian president saakashvili he would have never at that. if he didn't feel reassured a few months before that at the nato summit in bucharest when they said georgia will join their alliance you know distant future we don't know where he's he's reading all that signal was. not waken stuck to war now i can crush these separatists you know so in this way nato provoked more conflicts in the last i would say 10 to 15 years than it actually. marcus i want to switch gears here the recent attack on london bridge which i think should outrage all of us. i

can't even use the language on this program to express my outrage here is a man that was convicted of being involved in a terrorist operation had his sentence have released because he was rehabilitated how can people be real ability to when they have contempt for your institutions and their culture how can you have that happen this is an outrage because what i see from the british elites in the media that people should be given a 2nd chance fine but victims only get one chance please reflect upon that and to i think i'm my tone and tenor are correct here go ahead mark. hater london has a cancer and has had this cancer for many years now and that chance is violence not just in the form of terrorism islamist terrorism but also in the full night crime

and gun crime and despite that what do we hear from the mayor of london city car what do we hear from these so-called human rights groups or we hear about other lots of perpetrators other white soul terrorists other lots of people who commit knife crimes are the rights of people who commit gun crimes and the rights of people who for assy in people's faces not just at night in broad daylight and even though once again we london has experienced a number of horrendous terrorist attack no steps are going to be taken in large measure because of political correctness and this problem is not going away it is costing the lives of innocent londoners while i would like to hear from my men because i live in london but i'd like to hear all these human rights groups is how

the ordinary man and woman as our in london 8 protects it from terrorists from gap and culture from people for an assett impedance faces i don't want to hear about how in schools children from the age of 5 must be taught because it's a human rights that if they don't feel like a boy it was they don't feel like to get out they can go to many consenting none of that kind of sex shane and the others. and 1st thoughts as you are carrying out these operations on children as young as 10 commits in an audit is this is what this is a big this is what this is about this is an attack on our culture is what it is and it's people taking advantage of one of our greatest virtues. through the centuries is our tolerance but it's been trampled upon 30 seconds 30 seconds go absolutely i mean what's happened in london what struck me about this attack is that the 1st thing i read was the perpetrator was shot dead by 2 police officers. i found that i

kind of ironic that england is letting in all of these unrestricted immigrants into the country ok but yet they're not letting the people protect themselves and it seems to me that pretty soon people are going to start saying hey if you're going to let all these people into our country unlimited without any restrictions let us have let us arm ourselves ok well at least don't let the criminals out of prison and out of prison like that it's outrageous here finish up the program kind of angry well there is also a huge discrepancy between the 4 important showing with in france and the terrorist threat i mean. president was never involved in any terrorist acts in england or france russia was never involved iran was not involved in the last at least 20 years but all we have seen in the western media is how bad also this whole bad russia is how but iran is so there's a huge discrepancy in the people who could meet that crime stereograms in paris and

london for against asada you know the ones who made that means about the one so i think this is the most absurd you know that's a very good point in this program here i hope people reflect upon it that's all the time we have gentlemen many thanks to my guests here in moscow and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here on g c you next time remember. thanks guys or financial survival. when customers go by you reduce the price. then now well reduce a lot. that's undercutting but what's good for markets is not good for the global economy. join me every 1st day on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics or business i'm show business

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