4 years on the world stage the international anti-doping agency shuts the door on taking brush over what it said was tampering with the king data but. cries foul though saying it provided all the necessary answers and claims it's been ignored for the authorities plan to take the decision to court and. the punishment is harsh and politicized. elsewhere the normandy for under way in paris of the leaders of russia france and germany gathered to agree a road map for peace in eastern ukraine right now holding his 1st ever meeting with his new ukrainian counterpart.

good evening welcome this is art. russia is being kicked out of all international sporting events for the next 4 years. as the world anti-doping agency from moscow tampering with the king database of test results from russian athletes correspondent. waters press conference in those up. what are officials announcing a unilateral decision over a 4 year ban on russia taking part in major sporting events during that period meaning that russian athletes won't be able to compete and the ban over russia nor will they be able to fly the russian flag at those major events those major events could include tokyo 2020 and also the world athletics championships is also suggestion that this could impact the football world cup in 2022 russia won't be

able to host nor be able to bid for any major sporting events during that 4 year period russian officials won't be able to go in an official capacity to those games nor will officials from russia be able to sit on the boards of major sporting committees all boards during that time when they were questioned about what that would mean for russian athletes who didn't have any cloud of suspicion over them when it came to doping allegations they said that each russian athlete would have to prove their innocence this is a ban against russia that protects the rights of russian each. entry for major is. able to demonstrate that they are not implicated in any way we. comply. to these decisions. are really sanctioning those who are responsible for this many pollutions and leave those open for those who had nothing to do with

. in russia clean. plates well what it says in its investigation was the sale date was forensic and that investigation showed that the data entered received from a moscow lobbying question had it believed to be tampered with this was that data from a moscow lab relating to information from 2012 to 2015 what the said that that was dated didn't match the data. it into received from the whistleblower which started this big scandal but what i went further and said that during that time in moscow in 2088 experts say that they had also seen that all the data had been tampered with and that's why they've taken this decision from that they did receive a 145 athletes they were able to pinpoint that had had a question mark over them we're not sure if they were rushing a lot but it said only a round of those athletes were currently active now

a russian officials have a very different story to this they say that the data that was handed over. hadn't been tampered with that they had applied to all of the conditions and stipulations set out by wada and as a result of fans who saw that which is the russian anti to being agency would be a feeling based decision i asked to present what a poor response on that russia says it's rejected all of the allegations of data manipulation it says it's provided you evidence to counter to show that it didn't modify the data what you have to say to that and was not taken account in your decision well i wasn't part of the c.r.c. discussion but i do know is that there was constant cooperation between the water experts under russian i'm not sure what conversations they had with for example the russian olympic committee or rosado but those people who are interested are entitle

to under the standard to appeal and if they wish to appeal they have 21 days to accept this secession or not and if they do not if they wish to appeal then we will be in cash i write does the 17 page resume clearly it is technical you need to be a friend jake. and we passed it on immediately sure say thank you very much it does not change the opinion that the. well rosado will appeal that decision meaning that this is like you know to end up in the court of arbitration for that court to decide who is right and who is wrong on this particular topic for the meantime though one perhaps ray of light water officials did say today that they was a possibility over changing this decision and that possibility rested on the ball attempted date is being provided by law in moscow something that the russians say

they have already done. altie. various russian sports federations have been quick to question why this decision. there's decisions a biased inexplicably there to politicize them prejudged the punishing russia is the state which was connected to this story without showing any credible evidence is an absolutely normal transparent organization and punishing the states and clean sportsmen and women why should that be considered for. sure it's wrong to punish and impose severe sanctions against those 100 percent everyone in the committee required. what is this isn't isn't fair it's wrong to treat sports men and women on the basis of their nationality i believe all sports participants have the right to represent their country on the international arena. has been reaction from the

sports world to the verdict ukase anti-doping agency welcomed decision saying it is the only possible outcome. but the head of the united states anti-doping agency has said that the measures taken by water are not enough brushes escape from a complete devastating blow to clean the rule of law the same reaction was shared by waters vice president. wanted that complete and that we had 2 choices and i supported and slimness the kids today and i'm afraid that if we supported. or didn't support the c.m.c. that i you see would want to eat. and water the vision has left a lot of unanswered questions is explained. imagine a person that robs a bank steals let's say a $1000000.00 gets caught gets prison time gets out like

a near your early for good behavior but then the police tells them you know we're not sure you actually stole 1000000 maybe your store more so we're going to push imprison back again well that is basically the logic which the world anti-doping agency applied to the whole nation of russia in their decision on monday to ban the country from major sports competitions in the world saying that russian athletes can compete individually but they have to again prove that they have not used any kind of doping. of their youth the news me i'm in the position of the russian olympic committee stays the same the sanctions are inadequate not logical and too severe we would do our best for the russian olympic team to petition to the upcoming games in japan under the colors of the russian trick to the terms of the olympic charter. well if someone committed a crime fair enough he or she should be punished for that but it is quite unclear how exactly stripping a nation off its flag in

a major sports competitions across the planet can actually solve 'd the problem of fighting against doping you know from innocent until proven guilty in anti doping at school you're guilty and city can prove you're innocent it's a complete reversal of the normal justice system but it's always been that way you gotta think about what's on the world anti-doping agency has jurisdiction it doesn't have jurisdiction over the russian authorities they come sanction russian politicians russian. you know the constitution politicians can it all it can do essentially resell it and take actions relative to sports so it's come up with this international standard to code compliance by signatories which is used to sanction russia this time around and it's come up with these sanctions as a way of putting pressure on the earth or it's used to come clean which they still haven't done. to. on top of everything it seems that waters decision from

monday was made in such a haste that they have no clue how to actually navigate in that decision the biggest example of that is probably the situation with you wait for and feel for tournament's where were you where you quite expect to. be sanctions will not affect in any way russian part of the upcoming your. first of all it's a continental tournament not of world qualification for or for compartmented to. is again within the competence of us and if you represent us and if represents a continental part but shouldn't make it to the 2022 world cup in qatar it may be stripped of its flag of its anthem and it may be participating as a neutral country all asked for that surround the world should feel very much concerned with what has happened because we're talking about collective punishment

whether involve the athletes who will be humiliated because of certain discrepancies. in the work of their. lympics. association if there is a good and we'll there are many ways to decide dramatic decision which will being. very detroit man till the whole world vande the want to will be damage these are the athletes athletes those athletes are absolute clean those sir competitive among the best in the world and this want to ingest and series about and if you're not yet confused enough they already said directly that should russia appeal to cas the court for arbitration of sport. and this process takes longer than the official preparation for next

summer's olympics russia will go to next summer's olympics in tokyo as a full fledged nation but then if the ban is implemented late it might miss out on the 2024 summer olympic games in paris so this is all surrounded by a lot of confusion and at the same time russia says that it's not planning to give up the sports minister of the country bible insists that all the information for the reinstatement has been provided to the world anti-doping agency says renewing your blue solution are experts who provided convincing on says unfortunately they haven't heard us responder has time to appeal initially when we handed over the database we said let's investigate the database together so that we can make a full decision we wanted to have a kind of mechanism if we don't want to be objective decision let's do it like this was saddam has all the necessary opportunities we could have taken a different approach. from whichever side you look at it monday's decision by water looks like

a vocal and very harsh indictment of russian sports it might send shock waves and reverberations in the country sport for many years to come but it might actually be the beginning of a new struggle of a new battle the legal one when russia takes its case to cast the court of arbitration for sports in switzerland and we are expecting this to be made quite quickly before the end of this year. r.t. reporting from moscow. litigation expert from sheffield hallam university talked to greg really a need this believes that water is conducting a crusade against russian sport. this is a punitive action against the law let's including the innocent ones i'm not convinced the reason may go more into stiff occasion arise if it's not it's particularly with there's no evidence of my practice against them this may be raising a human rights issue whether. they're going to raise this before the court of protection of sport but i'm not entirely certain we have to accept that there is

a political element involved and i think they're actually applying of a ambiguous more and then multi crusade here there once was in terms of collateral damage that is there are there us in the english and russian offloads person with a case with a blanket against all russia and not let's it's like saying but every single one of them has been seething and this is not right that it's truly shameful the creation of new regulations wildly nessun such as the forcing of them out there on behalf of the audio c.d.'s so i personally would be. extremely surprised or i would say i would expect with great anticipation to see what the i.o.c. to respond. point in that's what it's doing it's like saying i'm going to come into your house take the case away from you and i'll decide who comes in and who goes out. and some sports personalities express fear is that any band could be motivated generation of future athletes.

how can you. not only ban a team at that entire sports for a country for 4 years it's absolutely ridiculous it's an overkill. little water should do its job and deal with claims concerning individual athletes not with the country as a whole to have a dream like the it so there was 18 years old to go to. compete for their country for the love of the sport for the love of their country and try to be the one the poor. don't want to do. school is being dragged down by politics in a place where politics should be completely absent sport is becoming costly. influence of politics intensely in this desire to disqualify the full national team why does decision to. everybody and will cause great shock.

i would say the decisions either politicize or just incorrect. what kind of message is out. to our children and we always talk about. our mission because that is tomorrow when you ban the whole country from. you kill all out of you. i think the 1st and foremost this will affect children and their interest in sport. by our children taking their future away with they want to do what they love away because of what a couple individuals did in the past it's just it's ludicrous there's a make any sense at all. and we will be staying with this story throughout the day stay with us for more coverage.

moving on to other news now the 1st bilateral talks between the russian president and the new ukrainian leader of libya is olinsky have just finished president putin said that he was satisfied by the meeting their talks came on the sidelines of a meeting with their counterparts from france and germany the so-called normandy for some it was convened to discuss the conflict in eastern ukraine and we will cross live later on the soon for their joint press conference for now on his attorney has been taking a closer look at why these discussions are so important. this monday is a very big day here at the palace in paris it's a very big day for europe a very big day for ukraine just a short while ago we saw the french president and manual macron welcoming his guests from ukraine russia and germany the 1st one to arrive was angle of merkel then it was full dimmers and then the ukrainian president and i'll tell you what we couldn't even understand if it was him for a moment because he came in on a plane run no minivan and the last of the 4 leaders to arrive was vladimir

putin just an hour before that though a group of topless femen activists thought that they could try and spoil the day. let me just break down why the number one politicians from 4 countries are holding talks in that building i'll tell you what technically the bloody conflict between the breakaway republics of donetsk and lugansk and kiev has been solved but there's one important remark it's been solved on paper now this step by step plan that several years ago was hammered out by the leaders of ukraine russia france and germany it's called the minsk agreements and i can tell you that for all these years from east to west from all kinds of politicians we've been hearing that this

plan is the only way to go to support the implementation of the minsk agreement because the reason the alternative no plan b. exists. in my opinion this is the only way they can create a climate in ukrainian society where they were able to make painful compromises regarding the states don't buy us your stubbornness and i agree with the chancellor i've also said there is no other alternative to the implementation of the green with help of the n.i.c.u. . however if we look at what's really been happening on the ground in reality pretty much none of the steps were actually taken and now there is a new chance there's a new government in kiev and that's why the quartet is getting together for the 1st time since 2016 but more importantly we are expecting the 1st ever meeting between the president of russia and the president of ukraine since the civil war in

that country broke out in 2014. just after the leaders took their places at the table the ukrainian president forgot to turn for a joint photograph but his french and russian counterparts reminded him of the protocol let's not forget it so that these 1st such meeting moment before summit leaders will hold a press conference following the talks will be crossing live so that as soon as they get underway as the lead is made to the palace activists outside the building and handing out leaflets to the public claiming that russia is that war with europe not ukraine. ah ah. ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah sunday thousands took to the streets of ukraine's capital against the upcoming meeting demonstrators brought tents and food to the president's office in a bid to spend the night the country's opposition led by former president poroshenko called on people to take nationwide action against the government.

ok let's discuss this story in more detail now it's in this brand mcdonald's getting into prime 1st off how much hope do you hold for this summit in paris. well everybody everybody is hopeful that something will come out of the summit tonight embarrassed i mean it's been a long time coming as the 1st bilateral meeting between ukraine and russia in the normandy foremast for 3 years essentially what happened towards the end of the petro poroshenko presidency is that the kremlin moscow essentially gave up because . it was running and you know nationalist agenda in ukraine and it was attempted reelection this year and obviously the authorities in moscow and goodness team felt there was no point in continuing with the former since the incident has been elected in april he was inaugurated a couple of months later and you know he has been a bit more hope as alinsky of course was elected on a huge mandate in ukraine 73 percent of the vote he won versus 24 percent and he

campaigned on the that he would end the war in eastern ukraine and was very encouraging is that according to polling in key of ukraine 75 percent of the ukrainian supports zelinsky meeting them today which is contrary to what you would reefer example in the british and american idol american media as they make it look like i have a lot of ukrainians angry about the meeting which is not true according to the polling on the ground i mean i just saw before you brought me on your show the protests in kiev last night well i found it very interesting today that they were presented by you know the e.u. us media as you know ukrainians are protesting about the meeting it wasn't ukrainians it was a small group of hardline nationalist ukrainians led by chorus shango who was absolutely and i should buy selenski in the election who just won't let go and he was backed up by the neo nazis for both the party which comes in the west of the

country in the end in livy and what was really going on was it was a group of hardline western ukrainian nationalists protesting last night who don't want any form of deal where she was. i mean they don't want anything to do with their you know intrinsically i'm sorry russian the fact is that the vast majority of ukrainians 75 percent support this meeting tonight and that's why there's hope because with such a mandate you can keep in control of the security forces you can control of his parliament he may be able to hold him or what was an interest in their lives which is a peace settlement in eastern ukraine because in order to achieve peace in eastern ukraine. it has to be understood that contrary to what the american and british media will tell you this is not. a russian invasion of ukraine her russian occupation of ukraine this is an ethnic conflict what happened in 2040 of course with some support from outside for example the americans are back in kiev the

russians are backing the separatists in the east but the point is that this goes back to the my down in 2040 what happened in my van is that previous to that there was a government there would be a very corrupt government with the government's power base was an eastern ukraine and then yes which is where the conflict later erupted that government was overthrown it was democratically elected by the overthrown by the streets and the elements that led to the revolution that the euro my down predominately came from west ukraine and certainly the most or came probably scepter right sector so botha did with me on that see hyper nationalist elements there from the west of the country and poroshenko while he was governing. was governing you know for the west of the country specifically and that's why he lost the election because he wasn't able to unite the country he was basically acting on behalf of the views of the. i mean it's i mean you know and that's part of the country so linsky it managed to

unite most of the country behind them during the election it seems they're still behind if you can keep that coalition together if people in kiev are willing to recognize that the people in the east have their own agency i mean if moscow ended all support in the morning these people would continue fighting whatever resources they have. because for them they don't want to be dominated by you know ukrainian speakers to the west and it's the key to resolving this conflict is to recognize that that is an ethnic conflict between ukrainian speaking sometimes catholic you know people in the west. people who are uniformly russian orthodox christian and speak russian as. 1st language that's the key to solving this reduce their standing ethnic basis in this company as alinsky a role in the center of ukraine and in the region he gets that the question is can he bring the consensus with him and keep what significance would you say talk of

russian gas transit we're having discussions. i mean the russian gas is an existential matter for ukraine and europe because simply ukraine doesn't produce enough gas of example the e.u. for example or are our most of europe russia and norway are as far as i know i stand could be correct on this the only 2 countries that are you know producing more than they need i'm going to florida exports of norway can't. heat the entire continent so you know it's abuse of major issue for everybody if ukraine i'm not sure it is a deal breaker in the concerts tonight i mean if putin were able to willing to give some concessions on gas perhaps some price for example it might help soften the blow for a senate seat but the problem as well is that the western. partners as he would put it who are keeping ukraine financially afloat should the i.m.f. part of their program is that they insist on market prices for gas so if she was

made to offer a discount i'm not sure how those. actors would respond of course as i said ukraine is relying on them to to basically i keep a roof over his head for magic and how much influence do you think the french and german latest will have with their presence. all this is a this is a huge one to be honest here because emanuel my corn of course i'm here in paris and even meeting people today you know you can see you know french officials french media people and he. has made improving relations with russia one of these key policy platforms at the moment i'm going to mark of us who really care she is on the way out she's been there for a long time now i mean. i was away from the presidency although he was still prime minister for 4 years i mean merkel has been there for a long time now 1314 years and chancery so it will be the next german leader who will you know kind of decide what they want to do with russian relations but. has

decided that he wants to improve relations with russia he sees it as a profoundly important matter to keep in what he would perceive to be the european family i.e. to stop drifting towards eurasia which of course russia is also part of and you know that kind of puts a bit of pressure on selenski tool because when my corner so open about the fact that he wants russia back in the european family as he sees in the aussie which is the biggest country in europe what can we do in the you know liberal european found european union family i saw how you put it i mean that was then people be aware of that and also the fact that donald trump. has probably intimated they've not 100 percent behind ukraine i mean there are 2 major leaders that he can count on for on a critical support and he may feel it me force him to say to the people in kiev like you know we have to do a deal here because you know if we are seen to be the ones dragging this process down i mean how long more of the western partners are going to support us you know unconditionally. trying to speak to

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