tv Cross Talk RT December 9, 2019 7:30pm-8:01pm EST
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which is supposed to be the way forward in the park way towards peace in ukraine the result is that the conflict has been frozen there was a further meeting between this group in october. of 2016 in paris which sort of tweaked the parkway further but that has again failed to change anything on the ground but then this year we've seen a complete change of our ukraine a new president and this is why all this group now come together and then there's now a renewed impetus towards peace with the entire jeep political situation change. with france especially pushing for up exactly where the germans also wanting in better economic relations with russia with new pipelines to russia to europe through germany and turkey and so now there is an attempt again to give fresh
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impetus to this negotiation ok there are lots of crock there is lots of arms deal and i to add just one thing that alexander me curious is that here we have president alinsky that actually ran on his campaign and successfully became president on anti-corruption and better a better relationship with russia so he has a lot at stake here as well alexander me curious is right i would use a different term i think germany and france are exhausted by this situation they want to see something move forward the lewinski wants to see something move forward of course there is the house has problems with his own deep state and the deep state in the us that wants to characterize this as a new cold war who has the most to gain who has the most to lose with this form of well i think i wish i were more optimistic that is advice actually enterprise could go no actually i like their way cheney's. there are actually 3 variance the 1st is the pessimistic we're going there. things just stay the way
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they are you know the 2nd is mildly optimistic that there can be a total exchange of prisoners a war between and and ukraine. certain issues can be resolved you know separating the fighters you know there will be less bloodshed that is perfectly possible and the sooner the better this is the more step to reach in some kind of we do you basically implementing the means grievance that i'm very pessimistic about because why right for whose what is what is the barrier barrier i will i will explain ok 1st that we have a statement from a zillion he gave an interview to 3 liberal media outlets more want to speak ill and time magazine from the next 6 or so guys out there with one of your point by the way. correspondent of time magazine simon schuster somehow left out the statement from selenski that there was no pressure from trump whatsoever the other
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3 media outlets bob listed because that's interesting and a very objective time magazine you have to tell you know why i think the have but he can engender. anyway. in that interview is against he just said basically the same things that said 1st ukrainian border guards on the border between donetsk and lugansk and russia that an election that's a nonstarter. salute the orders after what 12000 people have been killed mostly civilians it was an n.d.a. you know and you want to hand them over that kardex never get there if the majority of these people where the population of donetsk is a. lot of them civilians and lansky in the same interview and in his are the statements he said that we won't be giving talk to amnesty people who are fighting against ukraine and quoting him won't get them well these people are in power in.
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yes because they defended the city when the ukrainian army with tanks and artillery and by the way aviation. selinski saying this because he's looking over his shoulder of his own the all the darks that are in ukraine the deep state in well he looking over that it's not just deep state you know let me call to argue. magazine that published right before the summit front of them is written by someone named bach down the highway and all of the former head of ukraine and so the so for radio free europe and it's headlined the shared hands all of the russian crane. is their idea is that selenski is in you you know he may drums or germany will help him that's the point there is no deep state there was open pressure at one zelinsky to basically bury that means couldn't because that means going to stay until you could you clearly do you know what the biggest loser is in the ukraine absolutely. you know it was and you're here oh my goodness it's
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new to get again they're looking for a new head to lower it's always the same thing over and over again no matter what the conflict is it's mujica ok alex ukraine has the most to lose if nothing happens here the europeans over the last a month or so have said to the ukrainians get your energy policy in order because they're tired. of subsidizing and and europe has to work on its own energy security we in respect of what people say nord stream to is going to come into effect in the ukrainians know it and it's their fault their fault that russia made that decision and germany and others have agreed to it go ahead alex you know that's right you know just when we was and i did it all reals and articles in the media conjuring up the specter unique in relation to these negotiations but the underlying point is that yes the lenski is under huge pressure to make no. no concessions to the russians at all or to the people and the dong bass he's
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still with he's talking about essentially a pending the order of events sequences set out clearly in the minsk agreement but the whole situation hold on the lawn situation has now changed completely because in 20142015 ukraine was the key transit country supplying only more gas that was not anymore i mean today today the gas is going to increasingly parser in germany through nord stream one which is of course already operating through nord stream too which is in the final stages of completion there's a new pipeline going to turkey to turkey could supply russian gas to turkey in them through turkey to the souls in europe the russians have also hugely strengthened their leverage by opening a gas pipeline to china so they're no longer is dependent on european
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customers as they were for the sales of their gas and of course there are people in like emanuel knock on france who are becoming extremely nervous about this closer ever closer proximity between russia and china and with germany calling the teacher in. recession and contraction you see a whole delegation of german business leaders coming to moscow pleading essentially for peace in ukraine so that the political obstacles can be sorted so this situation has changed we think europeans the problem is it doesn't seem to have changed so much with the ukrainians and it doesn't seem to have changed so much if at all with the americans where ukraine has now become as we know through the m.p.'s. when
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a domestic the least equal you shoot so unchangeable greenwood i think that the moment when nor any great breakthrough in paris when these negotiations risk you but that doesn't mean we're going not going to see incremental steps because well that remains it remains to be it means we've seen in the in the last minute before we go to the break here. ran on this he should want some kind of movement forward because it's as we've said echoed already on this program there is ukraine fatigue in europe now in the u.s. for political reasons in the impeachment issue here but there is fatigue there they need to start moving forward 40 seconds well i think the decision day will be during these negotiations because this is the last chance for he said that he wants a lot of sand a lot at stake yet he wants a 10 year long contract on rice is going to hours if not going to happen he is going to push really hard for that but this is his final opportunity not only hears
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about all saw in general is the final opportunity for also forbes' in europe and in the middle when it too when they are he may rain or chicken with his presidency wouldn't you agree well because if he goes home with nothing he's done it's the same story all over again in ukraine people come to power when elections. promote friendship with russia promising friendship with russia then the more active nationalist electorate by violence by pressuring on that one here if they say that all the thank you very much alexander macarius enjoy the rest of your weekend are we going to go to a short break and out about your break we'll continue our discussion of some real news stay with art.
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dollars a day in the us happening as the world is kind of drifting apart in a lot of different choice. because there's an economic force behind it is all with . facebook and google started with a great idea and great ideals unfortunately there was also a very. they are constructing a profile of you and that profile is real it's detailed and it never goes away turns out that google is manipulating your opinions from the very 1st character that you type into the search bar it will always one dog food over another one comparative shopping service over another and one candidate over another they can suppress certain types of results on what they think you should be see if they have this kind of power then democracy is an illusion the free and fair election doesn't
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what politicians do you should. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. some want to. have to be like the press was like before 3 in the morning can't be good. i'm interested in the waters about how. they should. welcome back to crossfire where all things are considered i'm peter we're discussing some real news. and now to nicosia where we're joined by alex christopher he is the director and writer for the duran dot com all right alex let me go to you 1st here i said in my introduction it seems to me that the. democrats in their behavior with this entire
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impeachment hoax hoax is they're actually secretly maybe hoping that donald trump will be reelected because everything they have done you have witnesses that are really not witnesses they have no fact witnesses you have. speaker pelosi looking for a sentence before there is a verdict before there is a trial before there is an investigation ok i mean i could go on and on and on of the absurdity of all of this and the more it plays out the more it puts people off and i will tell our audience this and you know this that i'm i've been a politico political junkie since watergate i played hooky from grade school to watch the watergate hearings i couldn't be bothered to watch any of these hearings none of them have anything factual to say they are all just what they feel what their opinion is what they think should be going on and you have this left wing
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party the democrats invoking the founders the federalist papers when any other day of the week they would be condemning them as racist bigots that have to have their statues torn down so get your head around that nonsense as well alex go ahead yeah peter to sum it up trump really had a great week he really did and he kept it off with a really great jobs report 266266000 new jobs unemployment at a 50 year low his approval rating is hovering around 53 percent it's real clear clear power politics rescues and yeah he had a great week and the reason he had a great week is because all the days preceding the job reports were a disaster for the democrats i think now there fell asleep during their times at one point i mean he literally dozed off they brought in for lawyers constitutional experts and only one of them talked about. the cost to the rest of them talked
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about their feelings $1.00 of them took a swipe at president trump's 13 year old kid i mean it was an absolute train wreck puter an absolute train wreck all of a sudden nancy pelosi has found god she's found catholicism the mainstream media have found god doesn't look like a thoughtless ism there invoking the founding fathers again just like you said in a week or so they're going to go right back to hating god hating religion and tearing down statues of the founding fathers. if it's you know i've said many times on this program it's one of my favorite terms ideological possession of the can you're the ideology i'm going to grow graham here it looks like. it's it's there on a trajectory where the cannot be find an off ramp because that would be a defeat but the way the it's going for them right now and also is
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defeat i mean it's almost it's taken on an inertia of its own they can't reverse this process because if they have invested so much into it and it has an ideological foundation it well i think their problem with region ideologists and the democrats now are having a very rigid ideology is that they cannot repent they cannot acknowledge their own mistakes well i think there was a turning point last week i saw in there was to draw no the mainstream media i saw a headline basically condemning the democrats i think it was adam schiff surveillance state you know it was adam schiff all that you know basically listening to the conversation and 18 empty acquiesced yes it devin nunes conversations so how is that not a surveillance state and more and more we hear. and now it becomes
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absolutely clear you know resilience you said in an interview that time magazine quote as we said in the early part of the program he said that there was no pressure from trump so basically the whole case is falling apart but we have no other arguments for example i read in the washington post 2 or 3 days ago and mary because ellis despise trump and that's a threat to nato well. it's true but who made the situation so bad was it russia was a crush of that chills he would have been into deeply doobies of candidate to run against romp in 2016 no it was the democratic i do always use who chose her because she was certified she held their opinions then was it russia who forced europeans to play 2 percent of their g.d.p. for defense no russia wants them to pay less it's their american military industrial complex that wants them to pay so basically we see how these i told you
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which unfortunately rules the united states and the e.u. we see how we divide its western society is. you know the situation when drawn went out of the nato meeting because these people were life in it him you know before he laughed at them we see you chill does lie we see you had seen it and to have it we read the western media is that it shows the great unity of nato when there is a one in a number moving its own nonclinical back to go back to negotiate and go back to nicosia. i have my theory about all of this ok the reason why they are pushing for impeachment because they don't want to see what's going on in their own party because what you have you have impeachment because they have one part of the party has been pietschmann because they have nothing else to talk about and then the insurgent part of the party the a.o. sees a squad the red guard as i call them they want to burn everything to the ground ok and the most the there to make to make sure that they don't have
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a reckoning they don't have a coming to jesus moment if i can say that they keep this impeachment going because it allows them to avoid to talk about the obvious that they are facing extinction as a party go ahead alex you know where c.n.n.'s ratings now peter think that a 3 year low. for radio is not doing well i heard that. too well it ought not. this is turning out like they want to turn out they know that at this trajectory trump is going to win with a landslide because they don't have a single candidate that can take on trump and biden we saw biden got completely triggered completely unhinged when someone in iowa asked him about hunter biden. it was very telling to see biden joe biden just go after this guy he called him that he challenged him to push ups how was biden and alice and alexander and on top of
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that a lot of people have that question but c.n.n. and mrs b. c. they will never ask that question an ordinary citizen a pensioner asked that question that millions of people have keep going it's a huge story exactly and he wanted to know what was going on how is biden going to react during the debate when trump brings this up over and over and over again there is no chance that biden is going to be able to take on trump the democrats have nobody at this moment and peter we saw hillary clinton on howard stern and what did we hear again her hinting that she's going to run and then a lot of open and a lot of coughing and a lot of coughing not a lot of coughing and that would be another disaster to be a train wreck on top of a train wreck that's why we have this impeachment hoax going on. well it's interesting that we've heard it from the mainstream media during the last at least one month. by then and his son did go do an inappropriate in ukraine i think are
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sort of down also we're going to leave the mainstream media and really really after everything we've been through really just getting 5050000 dollars for nothing and that question from a bench of more of the i think it's closer to 80 but yeah bench and they're asking the question because for a pension in the united states $50000.00 for nothing that is outrageous you know maybe for the mainstream media it's nothing right but also how can these be all clean if mr biden himself vice president of the united states seated in the seat of the ukrainian president dismisses the prosecutor general who investigated his son you know how can this be so let me get this straight something is wrong because i mean. let me get this straight here trump is accused of a quid pro quo but biden did commit yes we probably publicly i want to make sure i want to get this straight because the mainstream media doesn't say anything trump is accused of. even though. that elected president of ukraine says there
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was no quid pro quo he says it in an interview to the time magazine and time agent doesn't publish it see that that's what happened but in general look at these you know there are just a lot of that the washington post writing about this nato summit they write trudeau did not disavow he's on trump because that would make him look like an a piece that to his own. if you want don't you want to go through with this idea always gee you know that we just described is that for them every opponent. every compromise appeasement and other nuke so it's impossible to deal with these people it's impossible to get that finish up with alex or alex all of this is going on because of their own failures if this is a process of projection if there is any kind of appeasement going on it's the
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democrats that have failed their electorate in getting anything done it all it is their fault that their entire agenda is to demonize donald trump i don't like a lot of things trump does but i'm a policy guy and so are the constituents though are the voters their policy people and their left has failed them go ahead alex you know the last thing we're hearing peter's policy from any democrats whether they're in congress senate or whether they're on the campaign or we know about their feelings so we know all about their feelings don't we don't we yet it's getting really bad heater and going back to the ship phone records yes he got the phone records of doing years if he got the phone records of giuliani but he also got the phone records of a journalist john solomon who was instrumental in exposing a lot of what a. biden did in ukraine he actually did the legwork and went to ukraine and documented many interviews with many officials in ukraine as to what hunter biden number is up to and it is my belief that it is shift who is behind smearing john
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solomon and you have to phone records a congressman has a phone records of a journalist and he's out to get a journalist for just doing his job things are getting very very bad in this surveillance state that we're seeing on alex would be really great to see adam shift as so being called as a witness in the senate if we get that far that love to see that will be television that i will not amiss here 10 2nd statement before we quit well we see democratic congressman listening to the phone conversations go into this that tells you something you know it should be the other way round chamber to be continued that's all the time we have many thanks to my guests here in moscow london and in nicosia and thanks to our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time and remember.
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facebook and google started with a great idea and great ideals unfortunately it was also a very dark so. they are constructing a profile of you and that profile is real it's detailed and it never goes away turns out that google is manipulating your opinions from the very 1st character that you type into the search bar it will always favor one dog food over another one comparative shopping service over another and one candidate over another they can suppress certain types of results diced on what they think you should be seeing if they have this kind of power then de mocker. see is it can illusion the free and fair election doesn't exist the more growth we give them the sooner we're all.
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one else chose seems wrong why don't we all just don't call. me lol but yet to shape our disdain become agitated and engage with equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. when there are so to this johnson. i just got out of prison for. 41 good news. for 72. so. i got arrested some might. go on like this everything was taken out of.
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you. believe is of russia ukraine france and germany agreed to implement a full ceasefire for eastern ukraine by the end of the year after 6 hours of negotiations in paris. 4 years off the world stage the international anti doping agency shuts the door on team russia over what it said was most goes tampering with a key doping database. and russia cries foul saying it provided all the answers necessary and claims it's been ignored therefore it is plan to take the decision to sports highest court russian athletes claim the punishment is harsh and politicized.
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