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and i would watch it on a little tiny black and white t.v. watching the hearings peter regino i remember him very carefully and it was worth the stork and then we all remember bill clinton and certain things like blue dresses and stuff like that and the reason why i bring up those 2 examples because there were facts facts that everyone agreed to facts that were dealt with obstruction and other crimes high crimes and misdemeanors by the way so i was watching jerry nadler and unfortunately a week before that adam shift and i think i'm kind of a normal pretty smart guy you know i like politics always home i don't understand what's going on here what are these hearings about why are lawyers interviewing lawyers where are fact witnesses ok and i'm not going i'm not taking a partisan side here i'm looking at the process here i don't understand the process current go ahead in palm beach. i think most of america doesn't understand the
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process and just like you i'm somebody who absorbs politics all day every day and obvious starting to to in the south because it's become simply rhetoric and if you look at the watergate scandal you're talking about 3 articles of impeachment that yes we're agreed on if you look at bill clinton it's 4 articles of impeachment again a grade on you look at this it's articles of impeachment that they basically just pulled out of this you crazy scandal what happened to the motor report i thought this was all going to be based on the mohler report and because it didn't fit their narrative anymore they've now just grasping at something new to make their case they will stop at nothing these democrats will stop at nothing to impeach this president and they'll stop at nothing to just do anything that they can to affect this 2020 alexion this is treason and quite frankly they are looking to affect the election this is not about actually anything that the president did it's simply about the fact that they don't even have any. viable candidates lined up for 2020
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and they have nothing alice it's a big nothing burger ok brian you jump in there i mean i'm i'm trying to give everyone the benefit of the doubt i really am ok and i'm not taking i'm not taking a side here but i do remember these past impeachment and i remember that they were very huge issues they were actually very tedious when it came to the law and it was most importantly bi partisan this partisanship here worries me the most here ok because if i can't as a political junkie understand really what is the kernel of all of this then i think the american people obviously they don't watch politics every heartbeat of the day like i do and like the rest of us do on this panel i mean what is compelling about this process that i'm missing go ahead bernie well 1st of all i think you're mischaracterizing the bill clinton impeachment i was around so that impeachment that was not exactly like ours exercise that's where there were less that's
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a fair that's a fair point that's a fair or less it's a fair or less a strict or it was more or less a straight party line vote well your question well where are the facts and where the factual witnesses i don't know peter if you were to win during the past couple of weeks but we've had plenty of sexual witnesses testifying under oath who are all on the whole line with leaders of ukraine testify what was the crime what was a crime going to that they were asked we had them on but they were asked and none of them said they knew on national television on down to television they they were asked what crime of their would reach the level of impeachment no one raised their hand see the florida election interfere that's what they all test. oh ok graham why don't you jump in on that ok i mean the united states interferes in elections all around the world all the time and now it is willing. to let me go at it how it's going to equal time last night it's let everybody jump in with that everyone jump and then we can have it spread it out go ahead graham. yeah this is
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a fantastic reality t.v. show that's put on by the ruling class to have these 2 ridiculous corporate war parties battle amongst this nonsense as was just brought up that look it was very partisan for clinton but even clinton actually as it was stated had 4 articles of impeachment he lied to the grand jury and all of these democrats who back in the during the clinton era were like oh this is a witch hunt they're now doing the same thing here with here's what's going on with the democrats i don't agree there is a very strong candidate it's called bernie sanders that is the most popular candidate we've ever had but the democratic party if they give over to him they lose they lose all their corporate money they lose all their corporate so they can't have bernie sanders in poll after poll is beating trump head to head he's beating trump head to head in texas if a democrat wins texas it's over but they can't do that ok going to cram or he would rather lose to republican ok ok yes answered my question so you're saying you're
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saying but democrats would rather lose to donald trump than have bernie sanders elected you're saying that. absolutely because of but i think there's something to it takes no corporate money i think there's something to it there's a corporate my he doesn't take you to court ok let me go back to the good to be go to court and keep it moving it's go back to palm beach here ok ok brian disagrees with this and that's good because disagreement is good because moves is towards the truth what in your mind is the crime or not crime committed because brian is saying that there is a crime committed go ahead con. there's no crime committed and it's the democrats grasping at straws and what amazes me about this is the fact that you know if you look at it it seems so crystal clear to most that most of us you know they started this all off you know talking about the smaller investigation and if you just look at the pivot just look at the pivot towards the ukraine and all of a sudden it's so obvious what's happened and why are we not talking about the democratic involvement why are we not talking about everything that they did why
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are we so focused on strictly the president and strictly on discrediting him because they at the end of the day this is about the 2020 alexion all this is a ploy and it's sad for the american people because there was a time that we could have a healthy debate and there was a time that there was a bipartisan system in place and there was a time where we really focus on having a 2 party system and somehow we've gotten totally away from that and there is just this situation that is so contentious and so bad it's not even serving the american people anymore and like a lot of americans i will miss that the point and i'm in politics where i want to tune it out because it really makes no sense and there is no factual basis there is no crime and that's why they've turned this into the whole ukrainian scandal is because they had a big nothing with the mole or report and now all of a sudden they have something to grasp onto and they're going to take any little kernel that they can and that's it. and i think i don't think we should waste
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a whole lot of time if there was a crime or not a crime because if you look at the process how it's being brought up. and shown to the public i mean i think any rational person fair minded person would say this is a pretty one way one party dictating the process here and it's. all go back to the nixon one and will stay away from the bill clinton one was bipartisan it was very carefully done i don't see any of that here and i think that's a danger to the institution of congress and civil public debate about politics go ahead brian i'm actually reaching out to you brian go ahead. once again peter i with all due respect i don't think you're paying attention but 1st we need to start we need to start by going back to whether or not a crime was committed if everybody on this panel can't agree that seeking soren election assistance on the part of a united states candidate is not a federal when you're talking about 2006 are you talking about 200-6000 213 and i'm
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talking i'm talking about what they said didn't i so you have someone from that representing the d n c going in talking to the ukrainians why isn't anybody no one's talking about that i can't do one person and that in the tram campaign i went to ukraine and i'm looking for your west you're ok well i mean you know what the problem is is that this is what's happened if i don't misread how to go from you know we have we have this parallel conversation that's what it's turned into keep going that's because you're not listening to us and you know you're not adding 10 and you're not adding to it ok you're just saying a crime how do you think that what is the crime scene here or has and go ahead is trying over me go ahead you know what rick where a partisan rancor is coming from you asked me a polite question i try to politely answer you and your yelling a lot for me and realistically everyone's list of names everyone's lives and i know well i've noticed you let the other guests seek uninterrupted i can't talk for 5
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seconds before you shouting over ok you're wasting you're wasting time you want to answer not well that's because you have to give me time to answer questions or you just need your 2nd so you just get your time 2nd summer to rest just like the 2 other guests can i get that go ahead but i get ok 1st of all if we can all agree that it is a crime to see or to see for an election assistance in the united states of america we have a conversation that's number one number 2 this whole business of it being some kind of a not quite bipartisan this investigation has the conducted almost to it steve so the law and that was to see the. same way the investigations into richard nixon and bill clinton are there are 3 parts ok or 3 they are you know you're ok then you might be right i don't know why this happened i know why this had with her i know why this happens you know why it happened and i can go right into my desire has to wonder because you want to see an end and you want to m.s.m.
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be so that's all you want your are reduced watching and that is going to say i don't know your lobbying at all other times than you are it's irritating there are just too when it process number one is the investigation which is conducted behind closed doors number 2 there is a house hearing and number 3 there is a senate trial and you haven't even gotten so in their pay and the g.o.p. one thing i recall they were a z. how good they are he'll say this is like hunting my dog and any of you know how this gets in the process again where extra post it. seems everyone you know everybody has shout outs and less it was ok they were you sir until it moves to trial we haven't got to trial yet why is the so complicated for republicans you're either lying or you don't know the law yourself ok well that's very good you give us all very limited options there i k we're going to go to a short break and after that break we'll continue our discussion on impeachment play with our.
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and there was only johnson. and i just got out of prison for. 41 years. i'm 73 and so now i got arrested for too many for some i. feel like just everything was taken out of. my work in the hospital but it was. meant to snow man that looks
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a little bit like me. about. homicide want to. work hard tough in the. doing that so you got. something on the to go system. to numb a friend who's trying to frighten. us no good something i didn't do. and we're going to fulfill the repeated prophecies of politics to the people and come
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out of the you know we've all but. made me break free from. the. now you want to 1st correct that. you know 5. the. big. banks guys are survival guide book stacey just like all the stores simply have all
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these. repatriations to look at the rest to 70. philippa 70 let's try sort of for. each simulating civilization would be able to run using a tiny fraction of its resources. hundreds of thousands millions of rounds for all of human history almost all. kinds of experiences were done to simulated ones rather than on simulated ones and conditional and we should be appalled that one of the simulated ones. welcome back to crossfire all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing impeachment.
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ok graham let's go back to you in los angeles and i'm going to say something and this will be in reference to to our good friend brian ok i don't care if donald trump is impeached ok i really don't but i do care i do care about you and i hang on everybody hang on but i do care about process here and i have to categorically disagree with what brian had to say here this is been so one sided and and broken so many precedents i keep going back to the nixon impeachment and that i think is a model here ok and unfortunately the way the process is being done now we're going to go through impeachment every 20 years probably ok because it's being treated in such a callous way talk about process graham well that's the way i agree and that's by problem with this is this if we go through this process then well then then the next democratic president the republicans are going to do this i mean this is just this is the problem i have with this 2 party system it's so one sided if we're going to talk about ukraine let's talk about hunter by getting $50000.00
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a month from his dad like we always both parties are so corrupt and then you have people like a lot of festers turnley i believe who talk to one who sees that that's the bipartisan problem they're all over this cult. you're going graham a credit card is corrupt i don't know robert oh man when i listen to your little island or to. get a grant there's no read about it all there is no you but yes brian please please go brian griffin. on the board of directors ok. fine i'm talking to. mr saul so come on you guys stuff you don't have time to stop chewing up time go ahead graeme the ruling class is completely corrupt this process is complete the law professor turley said were the process isn't good and no one on amazon b.c. or c.n.n. covers that $11.00 turnley said this is
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a distraction 219219 democrats voted to extend the patriot act during this whole circus so that's what this is really about and you know we're also not talking about how trump in the clintons are all tied to epstein so none of this is really being talked about this is a circus and a distraction 60 percent of americans don't have money for a handle a $500.00 to a $1000.00 a merge and see and we're talking about this it's like the russian distraction if we're going to talk about russia interfering in the election why don't we talk about the democrats being corrupt in their own primary of these completely corrupt parties that all they care about is money and war and banks and wall street and i don't know it's it's a it's a ridiculous circus it's like rot watching the real housewives of washington d.c. it's a complete waste of time and the american people don't care what a bunch of beltway insiders be they g.o.p. or d.n.c. think about let's have a real debate on how we're going to affect climate change or wow there's another
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thing we're not talking about ok pleat climate collapse ok all right all right you know ok well hang on it's going to let me go to palm beach let me go to palm beach county and i'm for freedom of speech graham had his bit to find that's ok with me and i want the same kind of question to you about process here and i will repeat what i said in the b. . getting in the 2nd part of the program i don't care if donald trump is impeached ok but looking at this process here. not being allowed to call witnesses the way shifted and jerry. was running the his. judiciary committee i mean it's absurd i mean interrupting people not put not allowing points of order and coaching coaching witnesses as well it's really quite obvious here i think it's very very dangerous again i'll say for the 3rd time i don't care if trump is impeached but i care how it's done go ahead it's about a little too. now i'm trying to play i'm trying to placate you
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a little bit raw and dry and hot this is the problem this is only 100 percent the problem and brian is illustrating so perfectly and i'm just sitting over here smirking at myself because you know peter that i love the debate more than anyone it i can argue all day long you know. and i got a lot and i do it every single day but you're you are absolutely not working i'm going out with because you were just loyal supporter of the 1st family that i don't want to sit on a show exactly what's wrong with the laughter right now and not like there. are any viewpoints out of what are your own just don't want to tolerate like anybody else ok this is a waste of time and ok time we're like the royal liberals are like it's ok because i was only i was it 3 am let me ask you guys don't let me ask a bipartisan question here and i'll go to brian ok all right please come on take it seriously i do know is that you think do you think there is do you think there is
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a lack of tolerance in this debate here that neither side wants to listen to the other i mean when you look at the i.g. report and then you look at the judiciary committee it reminds me of the western front during world war one you know everyone just and i think it was go ahead brian and i finish i finish my question now you can answer go ahead ok what was that like you were. a lot of malfeasance yes yes it also contains i notice that you did not mention this it also contains that this investigation into donald trump and rush is completely justified why didn't you. when you go you want to testify go ahead you have your time go right ahead let it go it's not me it's in the report. well on what is a reference point here i mean the mother report i read it once nowhere to the letter reported that mom did on the mother reporting demonic it again here we go by or it is there are 2 important things in that i.g.
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report and you're only reporting one why is well i you have the floor go right ahead right only i'll want to tell. you what you get he added if you don't feel you know he should be on my own program go ahead say it straight out means all 3 of us only reporting on one of them because he is trying to see if his own political narrative if you actually read the i.g. report you will see that the information that there was no political bias and that there was legal justification for best dollars right and i didn't mention i didn't mention bias you did i didn't mention it i expose you didn't know because and i thought if the reporter had said it was biased i would have said it but i they say they denied it all art hey he's reporting for some 5 partisanship if this site you report shows that the f.b.i. bungled this investigation then i say take all the charges and drop the but you will also have to admit that the i.g.
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report also that you know what and how are you so you being made you want to tell i don't want charges serious or would you say he's not really justified he's not something god and his supporters continue to lie about they say it was politically motivated which it wasn't it's right and look and i have it right here too and i'm agreeing with you there's i'm not saying i think that they could they do them no i don't think they drew the right conclusion but that's what the report said but. we have other reports coming out the durham report and we know what attorney general barr had to say. when shooting well now we'll see where it goes ok brian i have a secret for you to be open minded a little bit ok granted i had a. grand thing graham we're listening. to brian you're yeah here's a look possibly ring tone the filibuster on my program i'm going to go to now if it were a lie every day and says ok all right ok are you there i'm sorry sir you're talking
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i know you're in your talking points to the conversation just your talking points the conversation. ok do you want to have that this is you have this economy is what action would you have the common courtesy to listen to another guest you're not the only guest on the program graham go ahead jump in go ahead graham. yeah i mean this is just a prime example of the democrats rather than getting it getting behind inspirational candidates with policies and platform that resonate with the majority of the american people they do this insane arguing like tell me a lie is what that just arguing i just had to listen to as why is it any is any worse than the trump supporter who says trump never lies this is the problem i have this is why i'm an anxious and our target rest is who has not who is not inspired well he was once your he had on so he was once. i destroyed her eyes because i'm against the war because i want medicare for all the right that's why we're trying
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to reach out to. i why has it why do you bring that to such an important question why are you so many guys angry go ahead you are and i am not really here so i mean that's why he has you you would write brian if you want to get us out of all i stick it on i mean this is the heart really. really honestly this wow such a direct a large can of everything that's wrong right now when they can't get their point across the democrats who are glad they can't get let's way across the only thing that they are doing the al you didn't you didn't get your point across at all i can't wait to actually let you know as we look i can't wait is that a lot like all media resists going to show you why it's wrong illegal or illegal to seek for an election it's a serious and united states question legal or illegal answer yes sir well the democrats are weak i mean i mean i discussing the d.n.c. it is a wonderful and i am so you want to talk about thinking and say are you want to
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make me as we were having. a lot of examples that we're back. now i don't want to go lashing out i swear i think you can go on there oh my god i think we're almost out of time we're almost out of time hang on everyone hang on or hang on students and i'll tell you what is happening here is that each side projects yes there julianne on the other side that's what happens all the time and that's why we're not having a conversation unfortunately this program is emblematic of american politics today i think that's a really good test case here for what's wrong we all need to start talking to each other again that's what we need to start doing car and i'm going to give you the last word 55 seconds only for you i have my fingers crossed that they will be good for you go ahead. thank you well i hope so too and i think we need to get back to listening i think you're 100 percent right but it's very hard to listen when the other side is just yelling nonsense at you to the point where it's impossible to
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listen to and you know this country was founded on a 2 party system i'm a big fan of america i'm a big fan of freedom and i think most americans are that's a bipartisan thing we're all very happy to be a part of the best country in the world and we need to get back to that we need to focus on the things that unite us not the things that divide us and i've said this again and again but it's very hard to do when you're not listening and you're just yelling at each other we netted to get back to listening you know it's like the kindergarten teacher that says you have too many ears and one mouth for a reason and that's what we need to get back to what a great way to end the program that's all the time we have many things with my guest in los angeles and chattanooga and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at our d.c. you next time you remember. facebook
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