knowing ok about this general election the blowout of the of labor is spectacular and we have to go all the way back to $1035.00 i suppose the the civil war within the labor party has already started and now we have a majority for the tories something we haven't seen since margaret fine not sure what does this tell us about the electorate because a week ago if you were to tell me working class people would have never voted tory ever in their whole life or millennia old voting for the 1st time they all voted or many of them majority of them voted tory what is going on this is a earthquake in british politics it was an earthquake in british politics but it isn't essential to qualify and i've seen many places this claim about labor having its worst results since $9935.00 this is highly misleading. if you look at the percentage of the vote labor got around 32 percent that he's

more than he got in 20152010 in 198790928 simply knocks at the number of them he says that he got in the house of commons and that is a reflection of our rather strange electoral system and the fact that labor in 2015 lost around 50 and he. went out without a sentence may be ok but ok that's why we have this program here i agree with you no no less my friend this is a humiliation and again you know having so many parts of the country traditionally going labor went to the other side that is something quite spectacular absolutely and this is the key point to understand because what has happened is that labor has lost ground heavily in its working plan. asked northern

english midlands heartlands whereas he has held on surprisingly well in the sort of solved and middle class yeah fluent consumer belts we've won over in the 9090 is under tony blair and the reason is rex i mean i was the endless explanation that was made out this if there is no question at all about this working class england has never liked you they voted against it when bush and joined in 1975 in the referendum then they've been consistently hostile they made it absolutely clear that they were hostile in the 2016 referendum when they voted against it and they felt bitterly angry and very betrayed by their party the labor party which went into this election taking what was in effect

a remained position we can analyze that in more detail and seemingly prioritising southern england struggle kalani but there is a but there's over this begs the question glenn this begs the question is the labor party representative of leave working people because it seems to me what's happening we'll talk about it all in the 2nd half of the program is that the labor party the the perception many people of the labor party is it is for our flow and people for professional people from the southern part of the country i mean in a remarkable way the tories are taking the mantle of the middle class which is remarkable because that has not been the perception of the tories through terms of it though and that's also because. all of that was often seen a serving the elites by being a bit of a globalist project if you want while. the opening of borders or for wages and for that the demographic shifts or softens. putting more pressure

a downward pressure on the salaries of the working class so obviously this put also corbin in a difficult position because from his ideological perspective looking after the working man he had taken a position with more harsh and critical of their opinion so representing labor he obviously had to switch his position a bit if you know what i want to do that really kind of begs a question because you know i think that's one of the and i think your recordings a very good person don't get me wrong here but in the beach which is the dealing here i mean he he never really made clear how he felt about brags that he had one leg in one camp and another campaign i mean it was very and i think that's part of part of the messaging problem the labor had and of course the focus is a person which the mainstream media vilified ok well i think portman just wasn't consistent you know so he laid out the vault of who supported it

while. there was a substantial part of labor voters like that you know at the last election and they didn't gain the new once because he wasn't consistent you know if the core but if you are against you know what it was doing to palestinians you should be against our that weston. adventurous you know basically we did create vengeance against what they're doing in syria against what they're doing in ukraine he failed to do it and it's interesting you know i think i know why so many people find that they supported actually this is another referendum on the english and i thought that's why we're calling for this program breakthrough 2.0 and that then why they have that feeling because a lot of europeans have a feeling that whatever they decide whatever they vote things will go all else they did you know the way they rejected their european constitution the that has been treated you know. try to put it to which point your reporter could print edition of

course with russia other petitions like there were installed in points and the reaction of the press you know what in the united states and in britain the reaction of the globe is perhaps they don't understand anything you know the guardian says war is johnson just threw out the more statement that liberal here's a government who get rid of williamson course said that you know russian military ships that their north sea for exercises there is an act of aggression against good riddance. you know it just like that if this was a referendum on the european union i guess the best example of how lost labor was was on this official position on the exit which was they would 1st go back to the e.u. and then on the negotiate the best possible deal they could for another break and then they would put it to a referendum in which they would argue against the deal the past and instead the call for staying in the e.u.

i mean. i know that looks good let's let out a job in here in london i just put it perfectly ok birbiglia scription you're ok wanting it both ways all the time ok go ahead jump in alex exactly correct and this is where we have to look at what has been happening to the labor party over the period of its existence in the early 1980 s. 80 percent of people voted labor will be working class manual labor labor is working people today that percentage is fall and to 40 percent. even before all this last election will fall in even more issues become a middle class liberal party middle class liberal people like the working class people in britain don't what happened in this election is the. good who's been trying to reach out again towards the working class labor

base that was already eroding away found himself boxed in by a party whose leadership whose parliamentary representation and whose membership is overwhelmingly middle class and pro e.u. and crow remain so he was stuck with this impossible policy which glen deeds and has described very well which is of course in remain policy it was intended to keep britain in the e.u. and of course working class voters saw right through that that make them very skeptical not just about corbett himself you know has always been referred to as a weak leader and an indecisive and frankly no longer a straight on as leader which is how you mean proceed for but he also made them

very skeptical about his entire left wing program you know him when it during this whole 3 year process here. have done multiple programs on it and i've always pointed out that both parties suffered through it but with the selection. it's the tories capitalized on the indecision of the labor party and now the civil war within the labor party goes on full blast as we speak. but you know i have nothing against middle class liberal people but the reaction of the globalist press you know the wall street journal why should britain stayed waiting for this going course if britain leaves the e.u. then there is the fear of sclerosis china. unprecedented economic and political challenges to the e.u. which is now maybe we can to departure which was the school also has come

from where i'm with they. first came from these wonderful. waters johnson throughout and 2nd what is the threat from china does china want to invade europe you know you know they're providing cheap goods you know they're providing cheap labor did rush it make any threatening moves well russia grange to have good relations with europe russia has done everything possible we've made all of these huge concessions in there and over the agency in the ninety's you know taken all the troops what are they going to shore and we didn't get anything for it and now they write that britain should stay because we are a threat ok 25 seconds. just going to say about this need to clean up this possible civil war in the liberal party the labor party sorry i think you know that's very similar to what they need in the america but instead of doing cleanup there just look towards a rush i think what you're going to see here in labor now they're going to explain

it corbin you know it's a common is. britain and you know he's leading a cult instead of actually. you don't just introduce the 2nd half of the program because that's all we're going to want to think alexander here is for joining us we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion and some real news stay with me.

what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president i'm sure. more some have wanted us. to do right to be close it's like them before 3 in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the lawyers in the house. sitting. in a world of big partisan movie lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the bath shouting past each other it's tough for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for

the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. in the troubled 19 seventies a group. kilo's rampage through parts of northern ireland that was coordinated loyalists attacks to take the only population tens of thousands were forced to flee their homes and what was striking to put these attacks was that the or you see the police actually took part in the attacks so instead of preventing it they were active participants in the burning of schools streets in belfast i think more than a 100 innocent civilians were. as the review can seniors and we found out more i was surprised about the extent and the take rates which the collusion was involved in some of those cases that killers would lead to be named said to then we going.

to do very very top i think if he. wants to. call the taishan you. give the go ahead. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. and now to london where we're joined by marcus papadopoulos he's the editor of politics 1st magazine marcus thank you for joining us today will be in the 1st part of the program we were talking about the outcome of the british general election for the u.k. and now i'd like to a kind of extrapolate outward to other parts of the world to the united states and

to europe. you know when brags that in 2016 it was easy for a lot of people to say in the elites in you all the smart people to look down on us that's just a one off ok then donald trump i watch is now one off and then we have this election it's not a one off what trend if you had a broad brush would you say is. unfolding before us right now go ahead marcus. well i should 1st of all say. germany call when i submit so you offer to leave your change for brits and former renationalise in their own ways to renationalise it and it's easy to ensure in that britain would no longer participate in american led was of intervention however mr corbyn made a catastrophic church he took mistake by performing

a huge sermon on gross it because by having performed a u. turn on bret's it meant that he lost the labor harlan's and without the late harlan's the midlands of england north of england no labor later peter can ever hope to win a general election so it's not so much the conservatives who want to selection it's labor who lost it to her with a fair characterization and now will come he say about well the lesson to be learnt is respect the will of the public that you do not do what mr coben did syria pays the parliamentary labor party i'd labor m.p.'s who are blairites or brown once you listen to the public if we have a look at donald trump in 2016 here listen to their concerns are legitimate concerns of the working class in america the blue collar workers and in turn they

voted for him and that was a very important factor in mr trump's victory but if we turn to jeremy corbyn even though mr corbyn is personally opposed to the european union he basically dislikes the european union he did not listen to the will of the british public and that is will also about catastrophic defeat and finally peter this is incredible mr cool because you went after them. at the expense of the label. but it's not just political suicide yeah that's. on a scale that i personally never thought you'd call it so the moral of the story is this listen to the voice of the copy ok. and don't listen to the elites here ok you know glenn again going into this general election if you look at the polls i mean this is what we do for

a living ok we're we're political talking heads here so we have to look at the polls the polls were grossly wrong again now this is a bill to end bias we see it time and time again where this builtin bias from the elites they want to put their thumb on the scale i mean jeremy corbyn the way he was treated i think what he had a very muddled presentation i think he hurt himself i think you hurt the party really bad but as a person i think he's of a wonderful person here but you could see that the media was putting its thumb on the scale against him though it doesn't always work out the same way the media hates trump and the more they hate him it seems the more he has popularity grows here the role of the elite here well i think the polling by the way i think it serves 2 purposes one is to measure of course what the people think but also intended to influence people so. learn to be a bit more skeptical at least over the last few years but i also think that what

the what the commonality across the board is. people are more or less the pulse that are consistent as poor people want change they. break with the status quo and for that reason that's kind of the term in the election of us swarm us britain and i think that what's unfortunate for corbin is that he has marcus point out correctly i think he did offer like real change and moreover has been very consistent spacing the same things that the 9 committees. so there was a lot of trust in him and i think you know the fact that he was able to go against elites and still people like him i think that was you know that was what was his strength but this breaks a thing obviously you didn't get to him because he. turned on all of his key points so i. you know you know the how is it in this impending briggs that because it boris johnson does have

a majority he will get his plan through parliament what is the message from the european union because over this entire process as they did this ridiculous waltz with the rest of me where they got the better of her this is going to be very different now what is the message that the european union takes from the. european union or at your cerebellum called the water jordan here they say. the are afraid that they're less regulated forsaken if your threat to them saw that means they will insist that the u.k. broadly confirmed the e.u.'s environmental labor and other standards to the trains that. didn't make sense those who've done it before going to go to markets i mean is leave the european union but they say anyway ok i mean again these elites still get the message ok because they're looking after it leaked interest and not the average voter how many more elections and referenda do we have to go through before

they wake up and understand that go ahead marcus. well the european union is not showing any respect to the will of the british public when the ordinary british man and woman. leave the european union and this is no surprise but one thing is just and we've johnson's massive victory in this general election. will be delivered you can. we were here again you know in . january when see i had you know political parties should learn from the africans and consent in you has shown to the british public yes and i would leave the democrat party because the liberal democrat party when since the election not just not saying but they want a 2nd referendum but they were saying that in their manifesto. offical $59.00

a little more democratic exactly right i would get all that i wanted to i want to change gears here want to change gears here we have of course the impeachment process is going forward in the united states against donald trump and guess who shows up in the in the oval office. of foreign ministers love it off and a storm i can't preface that word storm but a storm in the media as a result here what's this all about well it's just incredible you know the american thinker an american publication and our friend paul robinson in his blog and russian added to it they were just you know surprised to say the least by the reaction from the so-called liberals let me just call it you know an apple ball our favorite apart from anything else presidents don't usually meet with 40 minutes that's why is this unusual or have been bestowed on this one well goal to the borg or russian and can see the pictures. you know. and

john bolton and many others ok let me give you are so important that when we meet even though i imagine it may give a quote from the washington post quote trumps welcoming russia's top diplomat to the oval office is one of his most brazen moves yet absolute brazen well i think this is a broader perspective this is very much an ongoing process which is intensified which is criminalizing diplomacy. again diplomacy is supposed to be defined the art and the practice of negotiating within the gaging with foreign powers but included unpleasant people in all it's not just allies it's also your other a serious about i think after that since specially after the cold war this idea that the shouldn't talk to other serious in other words you know you only meet with your friends this is taken more more strength and it's very much based on this idea that meeting with someone is a reward which will be exploited she demises yeah and this is of course this is very dangerous now for relations with russia because the kind of the common

position everyone needs to fall into if they want to have any political legitimacy is you have to go as hard against russia as possible so even if it's against your interests we're going to go back when we go back to the markets in london the one of the reasons why i wanted to talk about this because 1st of all the media just gets a tear on fire which is kind of fun to watch but i mean doesn't move the needle in the right direction here but you have the this resistance movement. that will not let up on trump when it comes to russia when it's this his administration that is impose more sanctions and what not in the obama ever did but it did juxtaposition is very important you have people like mccrone in france that actually are saying it's about time to start moving forward with a western relationship with russia this is really just turned into a a logjam ok because the americans are so obsessed or i should say american elites are go ahead marcus. i couldn't care less how american major.

visits to america all the masses is that no matter how dire the relationship in america and russia and it really dire it is essential for all the world's. dialogue between us i wasn't. even at the height of the cold war. and. regularly this is america that is something to be. approved it there must be dialogue today between russia and america but. there's also a free legitimate demands of the americans that americans were not given to any of them number one. so with jools its presence on russia's west and number 2 that's a nato put since it likes it that it will not expand into ukraine moldova or georgia and firstly that the americans will dismantle that missile defense system

or their missile shield was indecent your they are this free cool lawson demands and trouble and no one. said if there is to be a successor next year we're not getting any of those the moment so we are in now for an indefinite period. tension between america and welch i think it's fair to say we're rapidly running out of time gentlemen here but i think we'll end on this very pessimistic note as i think u.s. russia relations have been spoiled for at least a generation so i don't even think we have to look at incremental changes are gentlemen that's all the time we have here many many many thanks my guest here in moscow and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. see you next time and remember those. are all those driven by. those great.

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