israel the tories disagree there will democrats and appear to disagree and the s. and p. happy has to agree with colby. i think it's unfortunate i think it's maybe. understanding because anything that can keep stability in the region if anything it is. terence power and without our presence here and i'm afraid that there would be everybody fighting everybody else on this very very small piece of land of ours because it's not just in britain though bernie sanders the democrat presidential candidate for 2020 saying that military aid to israel should be conditional and that some of that military aid should actually be spent on humanitarian aid for palestinians in gaza what we have seen for the last well i don't want to go too far but let's say since since the all slow agreement this is 9093 so we're talking 26 years ago most of the pressure was directed. at israel if we really want to

see a fair. deal then we should come into the negotiating table without any preconditions and the compromises should come from all sides not just when it's really a master why you're talking about the also glue agreement as you might bump a 0 the u.s. secretary of state has said that he'll recognize israeli illegal settlements even quoting ronald reagan even though of course ronald reagan said these illegal colonial settlements are ill advised and represent an obstacle to peace there is no all agreement at all now well the oslo actually did not deal at all with the settlements i think it should be discussed and i think in all the agreement so far it should be discussed between the 2 parties and it is true that. pill has not. actually come up with this idea. originally basically very. consistent

with the letter of george w. bush 2004 april 2004 when he wrote a letter to then prime minister ariel sharon saying that realities on the ground in actually recognition of what we call here are the major blocks well as i say 1st could ronald reagan of course the oslo accords were in the context of u.n. security council resolution 446 about settlements surely even the u.s. peace negotiator militant indyk has called the troop decision a group should just move at the very moment israel has a new government and you expecting the violent protests from your enemies because of what they say is israeli colonial atrocities i don't think so i don't think so because at the end of the day i think they all realize that. nothing is done and nothing is settled until the reason

a negotiated settlement is the same goes for jerusalem and you know that the. present trump recognize the sovereignty of israel over jerusalem although he was very very careful not to delineate any any demarcation. which leaves also the question open. for the palestinians had i been a palestinian i would have taken this declaration of trump with open arms because they can and it can be interpreted as the eastern side is still for negotiation. if you were not expecting violent retaliation for this u.s. violation of international law why is the united states itself from state department saying all americans right across the region should prepare for possible attacks on u.s. government facilities private interests and citizens i'm not sure whether that

means on the same scale as an israeli killing in gaza or recent years the americans certainly believe there will be violent retaliation well maybe they are privy to some information that i am not to maybe some intelligence in from ation we have to remember the context also of the wider context in the middle east is that not just americans but most. let's say western interests and not just western interests also with sunni interest i would say are under threat from shiite militias that are supported by iran or by the iranians. forest so that could be maybe the greatest context that iran hasn't been bombing israel of the bus a few days israel has been bombing syria and of course has been bombing gaza. what proof do you have of any iranian. before the bombing that was announced by

israel there were 4 rockets that where actually shot a at israel and luckily they were all intercepted by our ballistic. missile defense but iran is very very aggressive and they work through proxies they work through the hizbullah in lebannon and they work through. shiite militias in syria and they have become ever more aggressive by actually using in. using actually their own forces the oakwood force and they have helped. take over his country after the. a civil war that took place there with severe severe casualties you know you're talking about more than 600000 deaths and they're trying to dig in open basically a 2nd front against israel and we certainly will not allow that if you look from

a larger perspective you see that iran is trying to surround israel from all sides and we take seriously the. announcements and declarations of the leaders of iran that they want to erase israel from the map iran denies that syria denies that but there are pictures of president yahoo treating people in syria in the golan heights associated with isis diagonal qaeda you just mentioned 600000 figure of 600000 when it came to the syrian civil war did your government support isis dietitian al qaeda in syria does it ever support those groups no no way if you look at the charter or the belief sofa and isis they think we are at the top of the list to be exterminated and. we know what terrorism is unfortunately we have suffered more than anyone else from because by law terror

group and hamas terror groups all of which are by the way recognized by the international community you deny the israeli government had a part in funding hamas is creation when it had a charter that was against the existence of israel of course like iran it recognizes a 2 state solution no that was and i i i would say is with that it is true that you know when the hamas tried and started in $987.00 the start of hamas was and this was the papers that were submitted as a charity organization unfortunately the. it turned into. charity for a terrorist and killing innocent people but if i go back there is a photograph of. visiting a hospital is ready hospital in the north which just for you many tarion bases

received wounded from syria they were not isis or anything like that but about to talk to the journalist in director abby martin about their documentary film on gaza duz does israel continue to plan do you think to kill civilians of the great march of return thousands dead or injured children is the accusation made in the film of course this in the context obviously of 10000000 palestinian refugees now under the un security council 194 resolution who have the right to richard again this is a self-defense when you come to marches into the to the border of israel unfortunately these are not innocent people that truly they were selected and sent by hamas sometimes under the gun threats and we know that among them among them where and are embedded sharpshooters and other terrorists who would like to

infiltrate ok will protest as little in the united nations itself completely contradicts everything you just said i've just got to ask you though since there's a lot of debate here about the nuclear deterrent and i know you think that iran despite his continued denunciation of nuclear weapons is trying to get one how many nuclear weapons does israel have you know that he's really has a law on historical position that we will not be the 1st to introduce nuclear weapons to the middle east and. continue. to hold but i don't think that you can compare israel to iran or to any other country certainly not. israel has not threatened anybody. and is not planning to destroy any any nation but when the iranians are plenty and are saying it's you don't have to take it from me just leave it one way they are plenty to destroy the jewish state but why don't you allow muti guy vanunu the nuclear whistleblower kidnapped in leicester square in

central london just speak to the media about israel's alleged nuclear weapons program well he had a contract he signed like you know any. civil servants all over whether it's in the u.k. or israel or anywhere else you have you go into a classified position and you are sworn in not to just disclose it if you disclose it you violate the law so. any other democratic country we uphold the law and certainly we want to keep our interest and classified information away from the public like any other normal country ambassador thank you thank you after the break . down journalist and director abby martin on her debut feature film fights for freedom and its evisceration of israel's alleged crimes against humanity coming up about 2 going on the ground.

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the dairy thinks. we hear to ask. welcome back well in the 1st off we heard from a former israeli ambassador to the united states now we go to los angeles to talk to a world famous journalist and director at the margin his debut feature gaza fight for freedom is now a warning though the during this interview some viewers may find the images disturbing thanks so much for finally coming on going underground even if it's a bit of a grim moment arguably in history so that's your reaction to. netanyahu facing trial for bribery and fraud look i think this indictment will have absolutely no impact whatsoever on israeli society and we have to remember that netanyahu can still win the election with an indictment looming it of course we can't forget that he's not going indicted for war crimes right i mean he every time the indictment

was looming he just kind of carpet bombs gaza and hopes that that will garner him more support but that's what he really should be indicted for and again i think the most important thing to remember is this will have absolutely no impact on palestinians any gats his counterpart what we're told is the centrist a left candidate. former i.d.f. commander who also shared on the declaration to annex a west bank that netanyahu agreed upon and also the u.s. is recent decision to codify real settlements well you mentioned gaza there has been continuing violence a whole the injustices you and yoko director on the film the world famous antiwar army veteran have covered why you choose gaza for your 1st debut feature length documentary and of course this is one of the largest humanitarian crises in the world 2200000 people living in an open air prison half are children so this is a relentless scene against kids and of course my government is providing economic

political cover for this ongoing crisis where and 2028 in the u.n. says there will be no water so it really is a dire situation and of course the great march of return which started march 30th $2800.00 was unlike anything that we've ever seen before in gaza 6 weeks later on may 14th. and one of the most egregious massacres of unarmed peoples in modern history israeli snipers killed 60 people on the stand. and 7 children but can that be taken seriously 2000000 people live there the u.n. saying uninhabitable by next year in part by u.k. back to. israeli warplanes so they could have even made a film next year right i mean it's absolutely horrifying action and we are running out of time the nutrition value is blocked and the fact that they're denied basic mobility and of course electricity electricity i mean 2 to 3 hours of electricity

a day and that really provided severe limitations for even transferrin us but it really gave us a really stark insight on what life is really like how you know you can't freeze food you can't pump water to the rooms i know you outlined the israeli position we just spoke to former israeli foreign minister danny ayalon a told me israeli forces act in self-defense against civilians fullest to march by hamas on the great return a much as you cover in the film very much and indeed there are embedded sharpshooters amidst the protesters. i mean i had a lot of that and i looked at about 12 hours and protest that it was there wasn't one militant there wasn't one weapon and you can just look at the u.n. report which is incontrovertibly proves extensive documentation of israeli war crimes we're talking about over 200 people that were gunned down with israeli snipers these snipers are perched up on a hilltop with a wider view of the demonstrations and literally just. like it's target practice

scores of civilians but not only in that actual protected categories in the geneva conventions children disabled people 'd medics the vast majority the people who were shot and gunned down standing there wrapped in a palestinian flag stand internet and chanting national slogans standing there showing the protest or simply standing there doing nothing at all this is all documented in the u.n. report again completely incontrovertibly but of course they will always use this morally bankrupt argument that they're all human shields and all willing agents for hamas it is absolutely disgusting it take away these people's agency you can just look at the great march organizers themselves i mean these are unassociated with any political party their activists their artists their journalists. yes and they clearly stated that their goal was nonviolent civil disobedience akin to occupy wall street to garner attention from the international community and now pressure to draw attention to the fact that they're still refugees 70 years later action but of course they will always say they're all human shields right well that military definition of a human shield is literally a military person standing using

a civilian as cover that is not happening at the great march and it has never happened the great march but it doesn't matter they will always use the stocking point but as you say in the film in media in nature nations there are critics on both sides and israelis present itself there is a case of self genocide here and in the film you show an israeli apologist some might say saying the telegenic lay dead a being used by the palestinians the rhetoric is and comprehensible action it really is can you imagine calling a civilian population that is just relentlessly bombed under a medieval siege controlled by the land air by the israeli military he was shot in the leg at the great march of return protests. now one point he resorts to one of the only sources of income. scavenging in the destruction from israeli bombing.

imagine calling 9 they're committing a self genocide it is beyond comprehension how these talking points even stick without people laughing in their faces and of course netanyahu saying that their telegenic 3 dead they used telegenic me dead palestinian the more dead the better actually having the audacity to claim that they like to pile up dead bodies to look at on television it's absolutely sick and if anyone thinks they know about gaza over the years of siege tell me about how in this film you talk about israeli permits for leaving gaza you say the survival rates for breast cancer. fuller maybe 6 percent to 30 percent in gaza and this is just in the past few years it's very recent these figures exactly if you look at the world health organization and the u.n. documentation you can see that israeli permits for medical travel have actually dropped dramatically over the last couple of years reaching the lowest point ever recorded

in 2017 now this was before the great mark started it was already at 50 percent so it was really you have a 50 percent chance of life and death of course we know that israeli snipers target a lens a lot of times the kneecaps and blow them out with the exploding bullet or internationally banned by the way as material fills a hollow center the trocar points joined at the rim begin to function much like a hole saw effectively ripping through obstacles like plywood. sheet rock cinderblock sheet metal and multiple layers of denim interviewees in the film allege the use of exploding bullets as you say what evidence did you see of the use of israeli poison gas sure so this has been extensively documented elsewhere as well we actually were able to attain the craziest footage that i have seen at the gas it is an unidentified toxic gas as we know action. israel's one of the largest arms dealers in the world they use you know they continue to use different

arguments that they test out on gaza then they go to these arms expos and basically say battle tested but the and identify dogs that guys i mean i've been tear gassed several times it does not cause severe hallucinations suffocations and seizures already someone has died south again from the toxic gas oil israel categorically denies the use of chemical weapons but certainly on these british state mandated b.b.c. on c.n.n. on mainstream media channels they will be claiming that rockets being fired it sure about in the recent violence from gaza. it's covered tell me about still wrote in your film and the history of the. road was use used to be a town that was 100 percent palestinian and muslim called. before the naacp. alister names that lived there actually helped hide it jewish settlers from british

occupation forces and so they were surprised to learn that you know 6 months to a year later. a jewish paramilitary actually expelled and silently from their villages and this is one of the 500 villages that with was ethnically cleansed and what is now called the naacp the vast majority of those residents fled to gaza as we know that was what the plan was and declassified israeli military documents that we obtained from the line popping just 6 months after israel's creation top secret military orders reveal their policy targeting of civilian arabs from gaza. the mission. explosion of the arab villagers and denial of their return to demolishing their homes and to gather all the residents and deport them to gaza to burn down the. surveying the refugees way of movement and lane mines in the routes fast forward to today and now they kind of use the pretense of terrorism but

really they always used the pretense of just being an infiltrator paint everyone in gaza as a hamas militant and just justify killing and to be clear and you show an idea of tweets in the film you show that the president killing of civilians men women and children is pope a full everything was accurately measured they know where every bullet right and you see these israeli officials that sound like mean you are right i mean this is for american western audience to try to condition and brainwash us that everything they're doing is justified and everyone in palestinian you know is an animal pretty much as israeli officials admitted themselves on record and it sweet that everything was accurately measured and they. you know where every bullets landed so the rhetoric that you hear about oh we don't mean to kill civilians oh every i know we only target people who are engaged in violence it is a complete farce we saw a leaked basically sniper video from one of the snipers nest so that they shared

themselves on either whatsapp or facebook that got leaked to the world god knows how many other videos like this exist and then gleefully celebrating centrally a targeted assassination every child every single shot is authorized by actually higher so these go through multiple authorization levels before they're able to shoot well a film and one of those a story a paramedic resident in a jar i'm busted down the aisle on and one he's previously said that she actually had explosives on a tell me about why you told a story of resident of the jar at the end of this feature debut. that's certainly a new one to me she was a true humanitarian she was the 1st female medic out at the great march of return she was interviewed by the new york times a couple weeks before she was gunned down by israeli snipers they knew she was a toddler frequently you know shot warning shots at her feet so there were the stories changed a couple times on why she died right at 1st they said she died by accident and then

of course the idea of. propaganda account released a video maliciously doctoring her giving an interview to turkish media where she says i'm a human shield me i save the injured and dying on the front lines and they cut her maliciously and doctored to say i am resign on the car i'm a human shield so it's absolutely beyond the pale to smear her when she was a hero she was peaceful and she was a humanitarian that the entire world should look up to as an example of what a medic should be there was no account. realty there was no what element for her death just written just sneers again what they did to resign during the last moments of her life and after she died is pretty shocking and we wanted to properly tell her story we wanted to give. her light and we wanted to bring viewers with her

on those last moments to really explain what it was she was doing when she was killed and how powerful her life really was the film is out now abby martin thank you that's it for your favorite shows of the last season and we will be back with a brand new cd to get you on the ground want to be a federal regulator the opposition approach will lead you to do it again this is going to be on the grounds you have a good you. see dilute the rule of law and a little. money in the draw more than i was for this

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because i think. a british woman dies after spending hours waiting in the cold for an ambulance we ask patients about the perceived health care crisis in the u.k. . saying it's. too much people. this is not true you're not fielding new austerity you're no building new doctors for agrees. he called work. russia condemns u.s. sanctions against firms that building the north stream to gas pipeline but stresses that the project will be completed. in israel describes the international criminal court as a political tool after a probe was launched into alleged war crimes in the palestinian territories.