let's lay down the case nice joining embrace. the place when it's placed in the old days of getting a concept that. says . so i want to sort this all 1st of all. you've got an incredible amount of passion and energy in your music and in your art and that really comes through and someone watches you perform like we just did i mean truly an inspirational so i really want to start with asking you who is the 5 defy is and see music producer artist educator from albuquerque new mexico representing the dinette nation defies

also if you broke it break it down into acronym could be definitely eternal or deaf eternal forever inferno are definitely eternal forever internal short for definition rare. if you look at a sonically you can type hi fi lo fi and somewhere in there is that 5 or more to defy the 5 began probably in my middle school time and i've stuck with the name ever since so what like what was your inspiration and experience that. led you to bring you know hip hop spoken word hip hop and traditional native american culture together in your are like what brought those 2 forces together. i think it would be a combination of livin in a urban and rural area and environments as a youth wasn't raised primarily on from a traditional side nor. you know the other side of things so basically. as a use my grandparents on my maternal side they really instilled

a lot of wisdom when i was at a lesson my mother also taught me how to read and write before i could walk so they gave me a good leading start to begin with in middle school i'd say about that time i got introduced to hip hop culture as far as like to be boys be gross i 1st started i seen a direct similarities and connection between hip hop culture and my traditional culture as a dinette person and that both of those connections led me to kind of combine both together what were the real errors of value. for instance as a dinette person we have 4 clans we're very matrilineal culture and our reservation it's around about 4 sacred mountains 4 sacred directions a lot of these numbers stood out to me and for the hip hop 4 main elements to it. one of the main connections that really led me to become connected we have is. the philosophies too as well like our people were not very judgment on this much for the most part and hip hop kind of is and is

a universal culture to me so without having to look at someone's skin tones practitioners can practice the ceremonies and feel like that was inviting for me a lot of times it was hard to find acceptance growing up there in new mexico where i'm from so hip hop was there and so i always carry my cultural heritage with me. it's interesting you you raised over a 1000000 dollars a big number you raised the room 1000000 dollars to help the water protectors of standing rock when that went down what was your inspiration for stepping forward and saying you know what i'm going to use my are going to use who i am and what i do to raise money for those people out there putting you know putting their lives on the line and standing. you know i was a part of the fund raising i didn't do it entirely myself i've got to give credit to the collective crew family which you say of. hip hop practitioners people who are just there to help and you know we we all together fund raise over a 1000000 dollars in one night via hip hop concert by texting water at this certain

number you able to leave a monetary donation just a little back story with that but i started out as a battle rapper a 1st and i steam the entertainment value side of that but after a while i realized that i could apply myself in much more useful ways or much more impactful ways rather than battling someone's head to head why not try to go towards a system instead and try to wake up and defy the system sort of speak and. that's kind of how defy started i did a song when i 1st was inspired as these hydraulic fracturing zones were getting closer and closer to my homelands where my grandparents are from and some nasty new mexico it's very rural at that point in time i realized that i needed to apply myself as an mc a music producer towards a much larger issues that and then just battle rap so i stepped outside of the box and wrote this song called the land of in fact me and that's kind of a flip on the on the slogan of our state and just to expose and also raise

awareness of all these atrocities that are happening throughout a draw that fracturing zones in our areas and from that point on i've just been helping hand as part of the many different movements for the indigenous peoples movement and many others as well but that's probably the most that was a that was a beginning you know after hearing your music and like i mentioned earlier that passion that you have that like just bleeds out of every every verse every bar every word i really want those like how do you sit down when you sit down the writers write a song you know like what is that process for you when you sit down and say ok you know i'm going to write about this issue of fracking or i'm just going to you know write some fire to get people jumping up about like what how do you tackle that how do you approach each song. each song is kind of approach very differently but for the most part i'm writing all my lyrics behind the driver's seat i know it's a little risky but where i'm at is very rural areas i can drive out and enjoy the

scenery. and be out of the city put on a instrumental usually the beep guides 1st take out my beats through different producers go from there and so you're literally like right behind the wheel of a car in a beautiful new mexico exactly into your painted sky and landscape or you're just sitting there listening to examine and write that well yeah exactly a lot of times off freestyle to think of the ideas and then just put it down on paper. who are some of your inspirations and your pa. many inspirations i guess from my youth the 1st hip hop song i probably would have heard was probably a run d.m.c. or chill raji track and as far as emceeing goes there's so many different amazing talented mcs that have inspired me to name a few. big pun big. care as one percy p. . micah 9 a free stuff fellowship evidence the dilated peoples those are very influential

artists and that's a good variety and you can see that not reflected in your work and said so glad you don't feel bad but you can definitely feel that the style you know and i think you know one of the things that's interesting too is your work you work a lot with young people you know and. you know how has your work with those young people how was that inspired the music and the art that you create the youth envoys inspired me since the beginning and especially when times when i guess an artist may get tired of war now from trying to continue working with the youth has been very inspirational because they provide so much support 1st of all they keep things brand new and fresh for me i don't get worn out or i don't complain a lot of a. people say like how do you keep going and not complaining about being on the road all the time. just going back home and doing youth outreach it just makes me i guess happy true happiness by working with the youth i was always raised in

a classroom setting i come from a family of educators and healers so i've always been in the classroom since i was a kid my mom has been a teacher in a big inspiration for that so when people ask why are you so connected to that of others it's just kind of just who i am and was brought up that way and raised that way. working with the youth also gives me a sense of purpose that's much deeper than. working for just myself for what would you say monetary gain or certain things like that or some are just going for the fame like that's never really been a focus of mine but. hip-hop practitioners and see i feel like i have a responsibility to give back and that's what i really focus on that it's a big focus of part of my mission couldn't afford the jaw a magazine 44 and a 4th that joan ordered schoolboy in a boarding school forced the move got chores and more sports in a dorm but only one course of fire chief kept the wood burning before morning

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you put that pressure back if you had to put this prejudice applies to describe. a lot of people i think especially who are part of the you know the indigenous population here in the united states who are part of the native american community of the tribes and things like that you know i think there's a lot of misconceptions out there you know. what do you feel are some of the biggest misconceptions that people have about your culture and where you're coming from. yeah when i'm out and about far away from home i can sometimes sense. that people look at us as we're almost not even human beings in certain instances not everywhere i go but there are some places what i can look at somebody and just take a quick glance and they almost look at me with some type of sense of resentment that there's people out there who believe that. we're only one kind of people i mean there's so many different tribes that exist here in the country and we're all very

different a lot of times people to like you know we're sitting here at a bar a lot of times people think that we're just alcoholics myself. i've been over like 6 years alcohol free and like there's many of us who never even drank or did drugs before so that's another misconception people believe that we were all poor but we're really we're very rich in culture tradition cultural heritage a lot of people also believe that every tribe gets per capita or like we we're helped out are like where we get a helping hand no matter what that's really not the case sometimes when you come to the deep parts of the reservations or the most rural areas i think a lot of people in music they only see the big names in the big lights right like they're only used to seeing the cat on them t.v. or the cat on the cover or man. getting things like that but that it's a bigger world than that i've heard to describe sort of like you know if you become in if i don't artist at a certain time you can you know either be in it for monetary gain and be like this

was to be considered as a rapper but i consider myself more as and see and i think that allows myself to be more community based and not a self-serving entrepreneur or more like you know i'm here of service as well for. representing myself my family my friends but also the culture of hip hop and that sense of pride in me being proud of who i am as an as and in that manner and also as and see it gives me strength but also gives me direction to what i'm actually doing here with the music hip hop is. save my life so. me being me being part of the culture is just i mean i want to contribute just as much as i can chip pop is helping me so when they sort of surgery life like how did hip hop save your life. hip-hop saved my life. through the friendships and bonds and through the practice of itself i feel like as i was working on these skills the

skills were also working on me to become a better person and started out as a homeless artist and if it wasn't for the hip hop community or the hip hop scene at that time i wouldn't have had a place to stay i wouldn't have had. food and just basic survival needs so hip hop community has been there for me since day one and what advice would you give you know a younger person in similar shoes to you who finds that spirit finds that voice you know through music. for myself i mean what are our tribe deals with a lot of energy in aeration all trauma or trauma that. historical trauma if you today in.

that's like to make these classic songs it's like subsequently you want to present the street i'll head up but don't get caught up in its tracks as i sped up somewhat doubtful because our style they've basically made such a put the book struck a deal with the bob agenda satellite stuff is no surprise that medicine is still

spinning in his pockets a box he could give up in a big if if it's trash if we don't despair because there we go besides a paper comparable to the night chairperson shared with you by taking the nebula flight back to the docks the same rapid pull back from the signal and the signal him you do have. you know political nature of what you're talking about because i think a lot of what you rub about a lot of what you what your songs are about you know they like to mention with fracking and things like that you know you put those those flavors in there how important is music to changing. politics or changing in issue or attacking an issue or maybe people where an issue like how important is music to a fellow like music can inspire and empower many people and i feel like if the messages there that. or you look at it like the last song

that you did for like the last song that you did for us that's such an enlightening song and it's such a powerful song using the mix of you know your heritage and your people as well as the drum beat and then the hip hop flavor in the archipelago you know you know that song has about that song teaches as a tribal person you kind of grow up loving the environment and that's it and that's inside you already instilled so. doesn't make you a politician so to speak but the issues that politics that you know surround that they directly relate to our lives and way to live so. it's a responsibility for me to create music that. inspires and helps empower others because i was just inspired and empowered from hearing music from a lot of the greats and led. the hip hop pioneers is that it's a continuation is your right you know it's a beautiful continuation. i want to finish up and ask you you know when you look at your career and you look at where you're going you know you're only 33 years old

you've got a long career in front of you got a lot more music to write a lot more beauty to produce on this world what do you what do you imagine or what do you hope your legacy years with your music and who you are. and i got inspired from reading something i think from kara's one or somewhere where he's making music for the future generations creating a catalog that can last and also transcend generations i would like for my music to help inspire future generations and also help anybody in need who. who feels alone or phil's. depressed i mean. i make music just to help a lot and i do make music just the likes i do have tracked i just did fire not really. just focus on a specific concept but it's hard to see the ripple effects of us sometimes because we're just moving and moving and moving and moving i hope to look back one day and

be able to. thrive with my music career but also really it's a money give back tenfold as much as i received i mean i got to say my hip hop has been there since the beginning so it's hard for me to say what i really want out of it it's hard to describe man i just sometimes that the music speaks for itself. and that ladies and gentlemen is our show for you to day thank you all very much for watching and remember in this world we are not told that we are loved enough so i tell you all i love you tyrrel but keep on watching those hawks and have a great day and night everybody. same hammer i can use to smash someone's head is the same hammer i can use to build them a home but that's

a human choosing what to do with that's me expressing my values for the tool and that's what we need to do with artificial intelligence since well. i'm going to fulfill the repeated promises apologise to the people and promise to be you know we've all bots to. read pretty. please. pretty good. now you want to 1st correct that. no.

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because he makes me feel. he does because he meets me. and when you. are. awesome it's beautiful it's gorgeous hey if you were running a country that is an amazing pristine rain forest what would you do with. taxes are not going to do it you have to go right to the root of things it's. the

balance sheet balance sheets is what they should talk about and that's where we can be clever because the dumb one of trying to get the will from the wealthy. is like the child in the room it's impulsivity it's narcissism it's us versus them it's fear the prefrontal cortex is empathy it's compassion it's thinking about the future in terms of what we do today that's where we need to make our decisions based from from the prefrontal cortex unfortunately when we eat the modern diet of our planet or when we watch the news or we spend too much time online we are. lock in to be a make believe we lock in to the child in the room and we're not able to make good use is.

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