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pinochet and according to some leaders fighting global neoliberalism the legacy of pinochet lives on you know they don't want to lecture and they want to and wipe us away in a pinochet style. sometimes we say these hard things and in europe and other places they see it as an exaggeration or extremist and it's not exaggerated they want to put a pinochet in place in venezuela i mean sino today democratically elected maduro may still be in power in venezuela custodian of the world's greatest known reserves of oil even after attempts by the european union to overthrow him but in chile washington's man is in trouble accused of reviving the days when u.k. companies armed pinochet to torture his people after so many years of trying to recover from a long dictatorship of almost 20 years you have an open wound in the chilean society when you have the military on the street and that's another thing that we have to take into account when understanding this crisis is that trauma of land
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society of having the military on the street is open again with this repression in human rights violation joining me now via skype is a member of the chamber of deputies of chile the democratic revolution politician jackson who is envelop ari's a city that has seen violent clashes between protesters and police want your thanks for joining us before we get to the latest violence reminds us way of the global south and even those in nature nation countries look to what's happening in chile as a chronicle of politics 4 told the legacy of new liberal dictatorship by a good stupid machine in chile. well thanks 1st of all for this interview it's very important where the sap and here in chile we within knock only because of our country but also for the region and also because as you said she was in the in the seventy's in the eighty's under the dictatorship she doesn't like an experiment of
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the new liberal policies without a democratic process you know under a dictatorship so it today we. we're living in the rules that the boys as we said to this are going to missions who passed with milton friedman's policies before the newlyweds in the rest of the world she was the 1st experiment in the last 30 or 40 years os implemented to our development who is mainly focused on the concentration of our economy and the trickle down economy. ideology these demonstrations have relieved or release some energy who was very tied up inside of the people of mine of the people heart that it wasn't able to get to the end of the months without having to spend with credit
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so i think that when everything is privatized you can not access to the basic rights that should be grand where anted so i think this is one of the main issues whom people in the streets are. protesting on if the privatization chicago privatization model is the same can you really look at the dead the wounded and detained in chile today and compare it though premier as policies and positions policies. i think that the context of course are different between dictatorships not only that human one. but all the dictator city in the seventy's and eighty's are different that their soft dictatorships are different kind of the greater schieber are totally since in the 21st century so i think we are living today a lot of repression. different marlo's that. the democratic
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whistle lucian's in order to change things for example this constitution this model and today we're discussing except that how so yes policies are not. enough for the population and the country is very polarized but the majority want to change the constitution's once a tool hire to get higher wages want to heart more social security that we don't have because he's privatized so i think that yes but he says. the opposition is not . it's not enough that what he's putting on the table you know but it has to be served the in the era like the former british backed dictator british claims he has we need to comic lee successful he said he's reduced poverty route 65 percent to 8 percent according to what he said while the british state mandated b.b.c. . so let's be clear it has been successfully not because i mean he's one of the
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most billionaires people here in chile one of the top 5 billionaires and in latin america is one of the top 10 or 20 probably but our country. is not about democracy numbers today they are in employment it's high it's a day. or numbers of economic growth are not what was expected to be where it would be yes promises on campaign but more than that people cannot get into the end of the month people have asked to to to have credit in order to buy in the supermarket the basic incomes i mean to get it to do basic thinks to to eat our economical elite house and get them didn't get the message until these days ok but then for you and your movement the trade unions and premier they're supporting a new constitution presumably an updated version of that new liberal pinochet
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$980.00 constitution do you feel it's not enough you want to constituent assembly plebiscites. this is what the yes set a few days ago in national television. he said that he wants also new constitution but in terms of what is the mechanisms he didn't say anything new because the current constitution the constitution puts qualms in order to change the continuation there are 2 thirds of the members of the of the house in order to change it until you know they cut the proposal of pineda it's only rhetorical because they don't want to put a democratic constitution that doesn't pass describes so it's like a trap it's like a retake track but people who are. here in fact and people are reading the
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constitution people are starting to understand what are these locks that are from 981 from the communist might in pinochet's. constitution and i are people are starting to realized that we got a process does a constituent process could be named assembly or wherever you want to call it but we doubt this locks that very very tight it's impossible to have a democratic constitution or your movement has shut down the apec conference where trump was supposed to sign a new u.s. a trade deal with china which he didn't bring also there was a climate coverage you shut down the what next because obviously the world news chile because of copper the world's largest copper production copper mines are in chile have you got the workers the copper miners on your side because according to financial news wires your movement is not affecting the copper commodity prices
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which presumably could be crucial. 1st of all it's i don't think this is my movement i feel that i don't river send exactly the movement of course we're on the streets but the movement. it doesn't have like a head or power to this leading it it's quite more decentralized and morally quit but i think that the demands of course are not to take down the conference or the opic because that's not the subject of the movement your question about the coverage workers there's a lot of support and there's a little bit of. strikes. on their minds but has not been until now a massive strike on the demining sector if the government sets there's going to be a referendum in order to choose their paths of how we change the constitution
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probably did movement. celebrated as a victory ok but any expectation the international dock workers council may get a solidarity campaign going on 5 continents like when the liverpool strikes are on here in 1905 is that the kind of where we're going and do you fear military reprisal. well sadly the 1st days of opinion us response were military where a state of emergency and we have suffered 5 people dead killed killed by the state agents we have more than 4000 people detained there has been people church or there has been more than 200 people without an eye because of the shots that the police do today manifestations of the demonstrations so we're very worried about this spiral of violence that to take place on the streets because in
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the 1st place t.v. doesn't have a tradition of riots there are so high like this but when the police. act in their way get out they have been acting this weeks and of course people started to response and that's not something that we want we just want to this taking a political path but the government refuses this so strictly we're having violation of human rights by the agents of the state and that's something that. rejects. you know i would territories in our region but here in ne ne ne in our domestic land. was decided to send the repression into the demonstrations to create a bigger gap between the demand and the response so people are not politicized and yesterday and probably without the political decision of the referendum it's difficult to get into
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a solution or jackson thank you after the break award winning journalist greg palast on the return of the pink tribe surging across latin america from chile to brazil to ecuador and we explore the global tremors of a new release go to produce netflix film earth quake bird with the film's award winning director watch with. all this or more coming up in part 2 i'm going to grow . or. not i want. to. get rid of it. but here how. i am saying
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good riddance to the cast that i have been. a lot of what i want to. tell i will apologise for interrupting our programming there but the iranian foreign minister is paying a visit to moscow at the moment where he's just had a meeting with his russian counterpart in the pair and i'm talking to the media let's listen cop aeration. she says we had 4 meetings already these here between president lead reporter in and. rowhani our contacts between the parliament's security council's foreign ministries and ministries of defense are very close to them and have very good cooperation between the ministries and agencies would each deal with issues of the national guard to ration our trade of your was rising nationals where the trade or volume on the
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rise is as i say. even though we see the fact of the negative slope of sanctions the fact the anti iranian will come pay. you carried out by united states washington is intimidating other. and. refusing to cooperate with iran. and our position is one and the same of this kind of actions they run counter to international law and free trade principles and that is a very bad example of unfair competition against that background we see that the trade is rising it has grown by 25 percent in the 1st 9 months of this year and according to the past emerge. we expect to see the any old. trade volume rising above the level of $2000000000.00. i would join the good
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work on the projects which coordinated. between the what we could members of the bilateral commission so glum you can trade commission which convenes in the summer you're in iran used to. pull supervision you know what we have good progress you know you always use made between the so use the race little mix union and iran and we leave contacts between the regions the rush provinces of iran are also expanding we agreed to tap into the potential that we have in the uk to even the feel of when you enter regional cooperation where teryn the work is another track of all cars aeration the same petersburg state university the 1st go to university in the all wired world where used can pass iran certified the exams are explosives in persian that's the
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1st example of its kind of work to promote dialogue can dial dialogue in education in science we have good exchange programs and that and says the needs of our people who want to expand people to people contacts. in detail today we discussed regionals and. global agenda should this book win the we are very much concerned because of the tandon says that we see today rearing their head in the international arena 1st and foremost a number of countries are stepping back from the charter of united nations turning their backs on others no most of international law and making attempts to interfere in the domestic affairs of a sovereign states we both believe that we need to mobilize the international community and stand up for the founding principles which lie. in the charter of the united nations formulated so after the 2nd world war the discuss the joint
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comprehensive plan of action regarding. russia. briefly with iran on the efforts that we make in order to keep this important international agreement in place with other words and some or try and shoot or paedo these projects such as the united states their line of action is very destructive. so we were in the middle east nuclear deal as one of the biggest victories of late in diplomacy and now it is being judged for deisel by some fortunately we also see that our us are used e.u. colleagues are not consistent in their actions they are not fulfilling their obligations in full we used to firmly believe that even that kind of action imposed by the issues thrown them us on to all other countries to start implementing the un security council resolution if that continues then all
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that can lead to very. bad consequences for the whole world for the region. with among other things we discuss the syrian subtle mentee process that would touch upon such issues as stabilizing situation on the ground. continuing our fight against terrorism we're building syria after the conflict these are. creating the atmosphere for years they refused to come back to their homes refugees and internally displaced persons. we also. discuss the situation for an in the area to the east of here freighters where our u.s. colleagues continue to house the separatists this way of running counter to the un security council which saddles spoiled blank that the territorial integrity and sovereignty of syria should be respected by everyone's support and staff of the
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on the way to your chief settlement was the creation of the constitutional committee under leads and aegis of the united nations and that is the way for the syrians themselves to decide how they want to deal with the existing situation or problems it's good to see that the work has already started school there is a major victory to achieve within the asked in the formal day we agreed to continue our carburation as part of the troika of countries russia iran and turkey and i would discuss the share deal for further meetings to take place. to disclose the roots of to see schools and also discuss the situation in z. persian gulf russia and iran advocate for uniting the efforts of all stakeholders in order to ensure safety security and stability in the region as you know. the chances of collective security in the persian gulf iran has set forward its full of
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former initiative and they overlap and that is what we talked about today we discussed how we can promote these 2 new ships sapping into this potential of both felicia tears because we want to achieve one in this a peaceful goal we are satisfied with the outcomes of this dawson my i will counter but invited me to visit is supposed to iran next year and i am pleased to accept this invitation thank you. as for the. soon i'm off to feeling good by the sword. i'm very happy that. it's the for the record i'm your guest today so i would caution you called eggs and partners. because i would like to use this opportunity so we merry christmas and happy new year and i would like to wish the russian parliament of the with
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a new peace my and successes wish. all the people of the russian federation all the people of the world my friend and long time called look. for all of the natural talks in great detail about the legacy asia as we had today . discussed. agenda and international. issues. we share approaches. 0 in the bilateral agenda ximena. electoral relations they have been to develop a rapidly there are a lot of areas for corporation of the bilateral level example trade economic cooperation and we use the eurasian economic americanism here and also a multilateral trade route years our national curtis's payments.
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and we also want to ask. stop being dependent from the american dollar american currency in bilateral trade ciggies are among the areas we hope we all seek operate in technology and all the major areas like and. transportation corridors there are a lot of potential for all our trade and economic grade. development between russia and iran and other neighbors of iran to your region economic. union and other regional partners about us from russia and iran and azerbaijan cooperate in an r g we transit energy. i mean a and b. if you're. wrong there's a big giant have transportation orders about electronic multilateral relations with
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our neighbors very good. a happy to be able to say this today really new russian relations. are. important and historic perspective as to the regional agenda as my counterpart said just now. we have achieved good cooperation and to really trying to put an end to the suffering of the syrian people through. these a times. leds so the creation of the as to now for months a very successful 4 months to. bring stability to this country and this and. these here we have launched the constitutional committee it was
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a very successful effort and we out that the palace if i decide this committee will be able to achieve great success in russia and other partners in turkey have done a lot to promote this initiative as to it later i would like to say the situation is very unstable there and a lot of efforts are needed to be able. to stay. belies the region and how late terrorists are we operate so with russia and turkey on this track so i think it has to count to reign in terrorism. to be able to see the united states because what is there not to say it is doing on the internet and international arena the u.s. administration is trying to impose its will on other countries to be.
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tries to make other countries violate certain norms and standards so our cooperation. of. what it is to preserve their state is going. to be my own recovery. but unfortunately not enough is being done to counter the u.s. sanctions and we think that europeans need to stick to their commitments as patches the nuclear deal and. we express this point of view to our partners in the at joint commission in europe as to as to the regional you just as mr lavrov said we have 2 clowns. to provide security here they are very identical. so. the hormuz a peaceful initiative. proposed by mr rouhani at the u.n.
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general assembly and the concept. promoted by russian partners for security in the strait of hormuz speed these 2 concepts are based on cooperation in the region and knocks on threats and. differences we hope that we will be able to promote these plans. provide security and peace in the region i'm happy that iran's dialogue with russia . how many tracks is going on and we have a lot of time shell brought corporation for further achievements so we want to bring them a contract our countries i would push closer to each other through to resume cultural corp and other programs so i was like just saying the government and the people of russia once again for their hospitality wish you happy new year thank you so much but just as you cannot and he's one question from he spent only.
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that answer to he was a minister and good afternoon some thought with ministers and present or a systematic correspondent there with responsibility but you know. what as if you only ever heard that russia i want to run as a new name is going to take you to say it was reserved tory enjoying a comprehensive plan of action was not what know about and to counter this taps that has been taken by the united states against international law. well i'll start with a russia. or convinced that in order to clarify the whole situation of the schools and he said it rides the actions they are against all the possible the national norms and these a consensus by a recent visit by rangelands was approved by the un security council how can you
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draw. it's will be it's a violation of every single possible and the impossible norm principle and the rule that there is some in this that that was later but there's a you know the united states is forcing other. visitors do its view so that they would not be implementing their obligations as per the agreement reached with iran's legal and they demand that iran complies with these arrangements 100 percent all this way violating the very basic of. the conditions in terms of that consensus buried with them but will share arrangements and doors by the 0 security council so we will continue demanding the us to accept the reality for us was a rigid states and even they should come back to full compliance with the joint comprehensive plan of action. and then iran as has been many times
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will come back that states obligations as we should embrace voluntary as a sign of good will and that i see as an ideal solution to this situation there is another option but if our western partners are not ready of the stick to confirm this way they're respectful towards international law and the agreements between the countries than probably the joins them has a plan of action should be deemed dad. non existent. the loonies. and then nichols who has no obligations would be in place for anyone i mean the obligations and his age by the age. of course they will be the nonproliferation agreement the i.a.e.a. agreement on guarantees and the radicals according to they all will be in place of
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course we would like the cave the j. c.p.a. intact was still have ordered by every country in the world as a major diplomatic victory of the room and it was it was a major step forward in reinforcing the regime of nonproliferation. and that's the reality we should we welcomes average made to. most of the joint them has a fan of action to stay afloat and i'm talking about some of them across present of france suggestions over the proposals and i know that they wanted to see this will continue fulfilling the equipment and japan's. put forward his ideas as to how that can be done you know so far as i understand there is. on the run in the brick wall of u.s. unwillingness is the deal move forward they do not want anyone to when you die look
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. they only die of a want to see is solid on their terms the most we are ready to help them with our help is needed we will do our best to think of the ways which could lead out of this impasse because that kind of settlement should be suitable for iran because it was the 1st and foremost has to do with iran and it was other j.c.a. members but again all the means and all the waste is the j c p a r here on the table there are included in the very plan of action itself so when we say that we're on the ways to overcome the deadlock we means that the very ways which would lead us to which are cynical so missed most of the fulfill our obligations that it has to do with every member of the joint comprehensive plan of action. to do most of you know iranian to russia.

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