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tie on or maybe their shoes so if we start stop doing this you know sledgehammer approach to what we are talking about as children then they wouldn't find themselves in these gangs in the 1st place but no one's actually listening or doing any think about the exclusion matter and the high rates and the issues that we have with young people in the caste system as well who if there was another study done you'd actually find the majority of these children have come through the care system are actually being exploited also in the sexual airiness in areas as well as just being on gangs and you know getting involved in county lines which a lot of them don't actually know what they're doing so is a much bigger picture it's not as simple as what's been said yet more views on that particular story can be found on our website r t v dot com always worth some of your scrolling so there are. laws for this news or a time in moments for some more great programs on our to international scene you and every.
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one else seemed wrong. why don't we just don't call. me all you have to seep out these days comes out. and in detroit equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. greetings and sell uteri shoes. welcome to 2020 hawk watchers i hope i hope you all had a beautiful fun safe new year's celebration with your favorite family friends and your pets i have missed you will admit i've missed you all so what so let's ask
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ourselves now though what has been happening since we last saw each other well it appears that just a few days before we were drinking champagne and kissing strangers in times square the wheelers and dealers inside the white house and the pentagon decided it was a good time to drop some bombs on iraq and syria once again last sunday the guardian reported that according to the pentagon the attacks were defensive strikes against the kottayam the hezbollah militia group which u.s. officials said was backed by iran 2 days after u.s. civilian contractor was killed in a rocket attack on an iraqi military base and as physics has taught us for every action there was a reaction and in reaction to the united states air strikes killing at least $25.00 of these militia fighters in response to the death of just one u.s. contractor many in iraq took action and that actions was a massive $6000.00 plus protest in front of the u.s. embassy in iraq a protest that included
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a small siege on the embassy the washington post reported that members of the u.s. trained iraqi security forces stood by as supporters of the qatari but hezbollah militia surged into the usually heavily guarded green zone breached the main embassy reception area and then set it on fire naturally all this led to a tweet off between u.s. president donald trump who blamed iran for the protests and embassies and the embassy siege and iran simply leader ayatollah ali khamenei called bollocks theory tweeting out that guy has tweeted that we see around responsible for the events in baghdad and we will respond to iran 1st you can't do anything 2nd if you were logical which you are not you would see that your crimes in iraq afghanistan have made nations hate you. yes my friends it appears that despite our best hopes twitter will still be the diplomatic tool of the 21st century so with tensions once again rising it appears the war and conflict in the middle east may well be
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washington's new year's resolution as we roar into the roaring 2000 twenty's and start watching the hawks. like you know that i got. this. welcome everyone watching the hawks i am tyrone been turn joining me today where our weekly panel discussion on the news of the week as the host of the world according to jess the former minnesota governor jesse ventura author and editor at large for salon dot com the one and only be walk ins are t. america correspondent rachel blevins n r t america sports correspondent stephen christakis shows and we've got
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a full show for you we go from war to new year's eve shootings to n.b.a. commissioners we've got a whole lot to get to but parts let's start with the recent protests and siege of the u.s. embassy in iraq and i look almost immediately since the start of this the u.s. spin machine jumped led by president trump put all of the blame on the protests on iran and iranian backed militias in iraq let's get the big huge monstrous elephant out of the room and i mean i asked this panel. are what we're seeing happening in iraq right now a harbinger of a potential war with iran using iraq as the battlefield i'll start with you jesse. well of course it is you know you have to look at it the congress just appropriated $850000000000.00 to the department of defense which should be called 'd the department of off friends and they've got to have a way to spend all that money now allegedly they're trying to get us out of
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afghanistan but we're a war culture now so we have to stay at war so they have to develop a new war if there's not going to be one in afghanistan now all get political for a moment defy were president i would welcome that 850000000000 did the department of defense but rather than spending about aircraft carriers and rockets and weapons of mass destruction i would go out you spend $200000000000.00 on those machines that clean up the ocean then i'd spend another $50000000000.00 training the united states navy how to use them and we would start a war on cleaning up the ocean guess what the rest of the world might like us again but what are the chances of bad know of course we're going to go to war again because the military industrial complex has to spend that budget they've got there spend it or lose it what you guys feel should we be fighting the war on climate or should we be fighting another war with iran do you guys see a war with iran coming down the pipe or 2021 is interesting is there just
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a few months ago the top u.s. officials like my pump a.o.l. 'd and then john bolton were all saying hey watch out iran is going to use these smaller militias to go and attack u.s. troops and they kept warning about that even though iran was saying we don't have any plans to do this and now all of a sudden you have a one tack i stack with this long list of the killed one you know u.s. servicemen and now all of a sudden they're going often are honest saying hey we didn't do this it lines up with that narrative that they have in place and so now they're able to say oh look at this and of course how dare these protests. come and storm this and this me and speak out in a country where the united states hasn't been for several years with no plan of leaving. the planet we need new leadership. everything is just the whole idea of the military industrial complex will as a new one every year and it's been that way since this country began and it doesn't work for the people. on this i mean well we can talk about whether this militia was
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in you know where they were on in or just iraqi people and what whether it was justified the bomb or not but at the end of the day like rachel said we've been there since 2003 in iraq and unjustly so eventually people are going to rise up and when the bully keeps on punching you down and kicking you are going to punch back in the mouth and i think that's what happened and the u.s. is being a bully over there and they're bound to get get what they have coming it's interesting too because what you see happening too is remember no one was thankfully killed in the siege on the embassy was mostly just property destruction they didn't get into the actual part of the embassy where people were i mean you know so one of the interesting things to the jump out at me is the iraqi security forces actually let these protesters into the green zone like these are the these are the security forces that we've been training for many years we've been there. and then respond then you also saw that in response to the original u.s. airstrikes that killed these 25 iraqis they may have been in the supposedly has been iranian backed militia group there's still 25 iraqis that we killed iraqis
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iraq's prime minister adel abdul mahdi stated we have previously confirmed our rejection of any unilateral action by the coalition forces or any other coalition forces or any other forces inside iraq and we consider it as a violation of iraqi sovereignty and a dangerous escalation that threatens the security of iraq in the region are we seeing in real time the united states kind of lose its control over the country that it toppled its government like we said back in 2000 to 2003 are we are they losing control of this country. jesse tyrrell i'm still waiting for the day dick cheney told us we would be greeted in the streets like liberate are just a i'm still holding my breath let's get dick cheney out here and explain to us why it's nearly 20 years later and we're still not being looked at by the liberators you know when your country goes out and they wage war simply for regime change is
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this is the blowback you went up with so everything that's happening now is the result of the misguided law war of the iraq war was and that's all they do now is live to get us into war now we've learned afghanistan's been a big wide from start to finish one of the people going to wake up to these lies and finally say no to the wars i don't think dick cheney has ever been greeted anyway every. detainee has the greed in his own country let alone somebody else's of it kind of makes us so big. and i know we've removed when easy on the bush administration you know trouble comes in this is goofy and out of control and we can't afford get like those years people talk about him and how much damage was wrought they want to imagine being a citizen in iraq had the united states come in way to this war and then all this and it starts coming out that this weapons of mass destruction claim was all
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a big lie and yet they're still there there's no accountability for any united states basically says hey guess what we're camping out here and if you can't do anything about it we're just going to come to launch more airstrikes in this country where we aren't even supposed to be in the 1st place i mean that has got to be incredibly frustrating point then i think you know we use the narrative as that isis is our biggest threat and there are these big scary bogeyman over there but i would if i heard correctly this militia was fighting leading the fight against isis as well and we're bombing the militia that is leading the fight against our biggest threat that's not very i don't know if they actually were they were what i will be doing. ok let's throw in there too there would be are you serious if we hadn't invaded iraq in the 1st place did not exist until we invaded iraq there are the leftover of saddam's regime that we didn't pay or keep on the payroll when we got there they went up north reformed themselves so our use of suits our frankenstein it always has but it's very interesting that like in response to the
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protests and the burning of the guard stand at the embassy president trump and all of his glory treated iran will be held responsible for lives lost or damage incurred as any of our pows sylvie's they will pay out of very big price this is not a warning it is a threat happy new year should the year. literally under the tree would have prevented this. so the us president or any other elected representative or official from the united states is very serious be threatening mation or our nation's people or anyone whatsoever on social media savvy allowed at this point know why a lot of my announcement is on and it. was the element of surprise my point are you 2 years old come on a man like you is out of control i think that you know enough and this i'm think the president should be kicked off a twitter yes i'm so largely because you know we live in a day and age where white trampolines becomes headline news as
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a result i mean stream media takes that they carry this narrative right all this and they say well the president claims that iran was behind these attacks so now we have to go forward and spread that claim and spread that claimants one of those things where honestly they weren't behind them so if it's a lie that spread enough times and eventually becomes the truth and regular americans sitting at home or watching this on fox news or c.n.n. and they're like well they said iran is after us and they're killing our soldiers you know we have to go after them good point good point just going to say oh buddy . just his job and. let laughs let's remember. this is the twitter of a draft dodging power when it was time for this guy who serve what did he do he paid big money and got out of it that's why you said tough guy because he himself never would ever fight himself he told your colt and let you fight tough guy on twitter but not in real life it's not exactly what i say just an example of a bully who should not be a leader in any way shape or form at all because like i said earlier when you if
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you eventually are big bad bill you're going to get hit back in the mouth and he it's just a bunch of empty threats it is it is and that is the danger i see in that kind of thing it's like look i don't i have i'm fine with you want to talk policy on twitter you want to tweet out what your ideas are for the country want to have that communication with your base directly and not have to go through the media fine you can do all that but we don't need to turn twitter into like a 16 year old war that i see in high school between countries and we've seen them they all run as leader fire back at donald donald but i get that i'm tired of it i don't want to see it anymore and i honestly just like a lot of people who go to the social media his tweets manner yeah i don't know i don't think we're going to get mad and i have this broom and implicates and until until we get a president who doesn't own a cell phone or doesn't is not on social media i don't think we're going to see that end anytime soon are we going to move on as we're going to break our watches don't forget to let us know when i think of the topics we've covered on our social media be sure to check out watch knox the podcast which is now available on spotify apple music and everywhere you listen to your favorite amounts of paper podcasts
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coming up the panel next discuss the violent start to the 2020 here in the united states and then finally we journey into the land of basketball and look into the legacy of be a commissioner david stern and stay tuned to watch in the fall. as you point out the anecdotally cheney fired all the cia agents in the field because they were too sympathetic to the. locals and he felt that was a liability in the major media spheres of washington d.c. they don't want those reporters those stars to rub elbows in the great unwashed of the flyover states because they may become sympathetic to the working class they may become sympathetic to the to the disenfranchised. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy. let it be
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an arms race. very dramatic to follow only closely and. i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. on january 1st while most of us were waking up with a hangover and some. memories of what was a glitter champagne or beer and pizza some of us were not so lucky some of us
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waking up with a loved one in the hospital or even worse the morgue thanks to a friend stranger loved one who misused or on purpose used a gun to inflict hurt in fact the new york times reported that in just the city of st louis by new year's morning the police were investigating 10 shootings including 5 deaths across that city the times went on to highlight the during the 48 hours of new year's celebrations a man in cleveland firing off a gun to celebrate accidentally killed his girlfriend in florida 2 men were killed in the shooting inside a nightclub and in baltimore. close 2019 with the city's 2nd highest number of homicides on record the police were investigating 2 killings that happened a few hours before midnight and these were just a few examples of multiple shootings and killings that took place across the country just in time to welcome the new year so as we start this new decade with what appears to be no end in sight to gun related violence i asked this panel what would you like to see over the next decade take place when it comes to curbing gun
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violence i'll start with the panel that rachel. when i think of one of those things that is going to take a cultural shift and you know we look at places where they've there's some cities where they've tried to enact gun control and they're trying to knock different ones simply hasn't worked you know specifically when you look at chicago and there are other places where it's just a cultural thing and there's going to be a number of ways and answers that work for different cities and i think that whenever you look at these places you have to look at how well the police are dealing with this whether they're even dealing with and all whether they're just looking at it and letting it go by and not really whether they're spending more time you know sending their swat teams to these huge marijuana bust than they are looking at these different homicides and i think that's something that we're going to have to tackle over the next decade most of all and most of it i just see what do you see what can actually curb gun violence in your mind as i know you're a big 2nd amendment advocate. well here's the deal look at it you know let's take a look at mexico for
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a moment mexico practices strict gun control there's big signs at the border you can't bring in a weapon you can't even carry ammunition or you go straight to mexican prison you don't even get 200 bucks for cash and go but the point being is that the point being is that they practice strict gun control it's the old cliche the good people don't have them the bad people do because how many people died of gun violence in mexico now clearly we need to do better background checks people that are on drugs pharmaceutical drugs and mental drug should not have access to weapons or guns we need there would be a better job of that but it could start with our own government our own government setting the stage for us we are the larger seller of weapons throughout the world today what's the difference between a gun death or a rocket death somewhere else both of them kill women and children in the end and our government should take the example by getting off their high horse of being the
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largest arms dealer. in the world then talk to be about my god. i live in baltimore from baltimore this has been one of the most. ever closer with 340. you know understand every argument for the 2nd amendment i get it just hasn't been working even when you tried tough gun laws to police officers out play and guns on people that didn't have a lot going to people who actually shoot people so it's almost like we've gotten to a place where we need to put a policy on a 2nd amendment so we figured it's out me i'm a shot before it doesn't doesn't feel good. when i really hear stories about how old because this person had a gun they saved this family over because this person had a gun that wasn't this mass shooting like you always hear something bad happening nothing good is coming from it it's empowering
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a lot of collards you know beyond everything that happened on new years just look at all of the mass shootings that happened even. in the past 10 years like it's like the number is it's almost it's a part of our culture now as something that we that we know is going to happen in we need to figure it out because the way it is now working with all 3 of everybody on here on the panel you know i think a little bit everybody's writing a little there's a lot of it's very complex of course you want commonsense gun control but you also want to respect the 2nd amendment but that was also so long ago there might need to be some revision to that obviously because i was in a different time period there's been a lot that's happened since then but i think with common sense like just you mentioned background checks closing loopholes like a gun shows and all that because you do want good people with good intentions to be able to have guns for whatever reason they want but maybe 15 or you know you know the automatic joins in then was that a gun show sign a bag of skittles like this this is what we need to have i mean it's easy to talk
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about different things than to say we need a positive effect and that men are winning and enjoying this. that you have to assume that the government is actually going to carry about oh you know legitimately 1st of all and then at the same time going to have to realize we have millions of guns in this country so let's say that we put out a new gun control legislation we say are we're banning on our 15th who's going to go in take those a r 15 that's going to create a whole new war on itself so well i guess there 1 are a lot of problems at the same time guns do save lives and there are instances where when you look at the texas shooting there was a man who came out shot off 2 shots before he was shot in the head by another man who was there with a god and i didn't man and man did not have a gun there were at least 5 other people that had their guns drawn at the same time who would have easily taken him out whereas if no one else was armed then he would have been able to do whatever he wanted to do before police could get there just you know so you try to where you are and what you observe it. well let's also look to mass stabbing up now too aren't they. right not now you're seeing the
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trend of people going in like that at the jewish place of mass stabbing so it's beyond weapons this is a mental problem that's out there that we've got to deal with because it takes a mentally deranged person to do any of that in the 1st place i want to i want to finish off the show today and this week we saw the death of n.b.a. former n.b.a. commissioner david stern the 77 year old passed away on wednesday after a 3 week hospital stay up or you know suffer every suffered a sudden brain hemorrhage back on december 12th starting served as the top man in the business of professional basketball here in the u.s. for 30 years serving as an n.b.a. commissioner from 1900 or 2014 oversaw billions of dollars rise of the n.b.a. during his tenure but also he was witness to many a controversy i want to ask the panel is curious when you see a guy like this is such an impact on popular culture in this country he brought the n.b.a. and made it into a powerhouse he also had the help of a lot of big n.b.a. players along the way namely michael jordan and le bron james and everyone else
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what are your thoughts on the how or on the david stern rules that howard stern's are on the david stern legacy of the n.b.a. all star with the jesse. well i just like they have one year of his salary. and so i can't imagine how i can imagine how much money david made guiding this $1000000000.00 empire and tip your hat to it i mean yeah you do things wrong bad things can happen that did happen the c.e.o. of any industry over a 30 year period but let's look at the positives david's gone now what he did though he took basketball international now look at the teams in the n.b.a. they are not dominated by just. now you've got an international field that plays you have literally the greatest basketball players on the planet and david stern's
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directly really responds i want to get to you steve as the artsy burger sports guy what we're what what's your feelings on stern jumping off what jesse was just touching on internationally was a huge aspect of david stern's tenure 30 years in the in the n.b.a. from 84 to 2014 and he organized over 150 international games he struck t.v. deals in over 200 countries in over 40 languages that was huge that was unprecedented for any sports league at the time and now you see the n.f.l. follow up they have games in london every year so he kind of set that precedent and trend but also going off the money that he's made for the n.b.a. the value of the franchise in total of all the franchises has increased over $18000000000.00 since he took over to now so that's a massive game is there definitely the n.b.a. like i think of a lot of controversy people really had to sit back and say how he caused the expansion of the league and created of so many amazing errors like even before the jordan era a certain show time that was don't stand alone so to have created probably more n.b.a. and did anything you have to robberies and. rachel your thoughts of david
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stern's history. you know i think when you look at someone's legacy there may be a little going to here and there but ultimately ending for him for what he did and for what you contributed to. i mean i also have to say that i still believe the n.b.a. draft is rigged. i think that started out a very good stern of the lottery yeah i think it's rigged for the big market teams i think there's a lot of behind this i think anybody who's watched n.b.a. coaching over there is now one of baseball's and david stern's backers commissioner whatever i think when you watch n.b.a. n.b.a. refereeing over the years you can clearly see n.b.a. referees favoring certain players certain teams certain markets over other teams and players and markets depending on the last time. you know you see the names i get the calls of course that i'm going to get a call or he doesn't get called for travelling ever but also another aspect of david's. and he really changed a lot of social issues such as when people were afraid of hiv when they didn't know too much about it back in 91 when magic johnson was diagnosed and he had to retire
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stern actually let he was the magic johnson was the leading vote getter for the 92 all-star game and stern opposed as opposed to even players that want magic johnson play he let him play in that game and shook his hand and that quelled the fears that you're not going to catch this virus from just touching something that had a big impact like across the world yes and you know i don't think. and let's look at the bottom line and look at what these guys are making sure they know and you've got to give credit to a commissioner that was in there 30 years that would build a business to where i made a $1000000.00 a year knowledges looked at his chicken feet and drew it's true it's true basketball's an incredible force and i think it holds a lot well it is a lot to david stern and what you put in and also i think we were talking earlier just what touches to start also drop all the controversy things like that basket still allows a lot of the players to be the individuals they want to be and to speak out politically the way they want to and things like that that also started under david
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stern and i think that's an important thing to know about his legacy with that yeah basketball players coming off as a revolutionary you know that these football players that is there anything about nothing and they think oh no not at all not at all adam silver credit to him the commissioner erato audio audio like hey how do you like the fact they're going to let antonio brown maybe play again i don't think they will but they won't like tapper i don't let tapper and it goes on there that good topic and we'll pick that one up again in a later date but i want to thank my panel jesse ventura the watkins rachel rachel blevins and steve thank you so much everyone for coming on always a pleasure that is our show for you today remember when in this world we have not told the beloved enough so i tell you all the love i am tyrone been through and keep on watching all those hawks out there a great day and night. the
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the united states assassinate top military commander in an early morning our strike in iraq provoking thread separate allegation from tehran. militias. police in the french capital shoot day and a knife wielding. person to death and wouldn't to the world. turkish parliament's the citizenship deployed troops to libya comes in for a strong criticism of israel grace chris fear it will lead to a further escalation in the region.

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