but e'squus ics physics is nothing but the harmony who can create on vibrating strings what is chemistry chemistry is the melody the melanie's you can play on strings what is the universe the universe is a symphony of strings. if you want to so still would know that you see a real series at the bank so tired rail that you just put your feet to analyze it to gauge a pot of soup if you speak in my left shoulder for the day like it or not i got past this baldly with the belief that the phrase if this still going on did this world but now you know it opened up a job to get over it. you start to push your. greetings and salutations music my friends can change the world and most importantly it can give voice to the voiceless which is why it's our pleasure to present to you the mc

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it's based on the old days of getting a concept that. says . so i want to sort this all 1st of all. you've got an incredible amount of passion and energy in your music and in your art and that really comes through and someone watches you perform like we just did i mean truly an inspirational so i really want to start with asking you who is the 5 defy is and see music producer artist educator from albuquerque new mexico representing the dinette nation defies

also if you broke it break it down into acronym could be definitely eternal or deaf eternal forever inferno or definitely eternal forever internal short for definition rare. if you look at it sonically you can type hi fi lo fi and somewhere in there is that 5 or more to defy the 5 began probably in my middle school time and i've stuck with the name ever since so what like what was your inspiration and experience that. led you to bring you know hip hop spoken word hip hop and traditional native american culture together in your are like what brought those 2 forces together. i think it would be a combination of livin in a urban and rural area and environments as a youth wasn't raised primarily on from a traditional side nor. you know the other side of things so basically. as i use my grandparents on my maternal side they really instilled a lot of wisdom when i was at

a lesson my mother also taught me how to read and write before i could walk so they gave me a good leading start to begin with in middle school i'd say about that time i got introduced to hip hop culture as far as like to be able to be gross i 1st started i seen a direct similarities and connection between hip hop culture and my traditional culture as a dinette person and that both of those connections led me to kind of combine both together what were called real errors of value. for instance as a dinette person we have 4 clans we're very matrilineal culture and our reservation it's around about 4 sacred mountains for sacred directions a lot of these numbers stood out to me and for the hip hop for main elements to it . one of the main connections that really led me to become connected we had. a philosophies too as well like our people were not very judgment on this much for the most part and hip hop kind of was and is

a universal culture to me so without having to look at someone's skin tones practitioners can practice the ceremonies and feel like that was inviting for me a lot of times it was hard to find acceptance growing up there in new mexico where i'm from so hip hop was there and so i always carry my cultural heritage with me. it's interesting. you raised over a 1000000 dollars a big number you raised the room 1000000 dollars to help the water protectors of standing rock when that went down what was your inspiration for stepping forward and saying you know what i'm going to use my are going to use who i am and what i do to raise money for those people out there putting you know putting their lives on the line and standing room. you know i was a part of the fund raising i didn't do it entirely myself i've got to give credit to the collective crew family which you say of. hip hop practitioners people who are just there to help and you know we we all together fund raise over a 1000000 dollars in one night via hip hop concert by texting water at this certain

number you able to leave a monetary donation just a little back story with that but i started out as a battle rapper a 1st and i stay in the entertainment value side of that but after a while i realized that i could apply myself in much more useful ways are much more impactful ways rather than battling someone's head to head why not try to go towards a system instead and try to wake up and defy the system sort of speak and. that's kind of how defy started i did a song when i 1st was inspired as these hydraulic fracturing zones were getting closer and closer to my homelands where my grandparents are from and some new mexico is very rural at that point in time i realized that i needed to apply myself as an mc a music producer towards the much larger issues that and then just battle rap so i stepped outside of the box and wrote this song called the land of in fact me and that's kind of a flip on the on the slogan of our state and just to expose and also raise

awareness of all these atrocities that are happening throughout draw that fracturing zones in our areas and from that point on i've just been a helping hand as part of the many different movements for the indigenous peoples movement and many others as well but that's probably the most that was a that was a beginning you know after hearing your music and like i mentioned earlier that passion that you have that like just bleeds out of every every verse every bar every word i really want those like how do you sit down when you sit down the writers write a song you know like what is that process for you when you sit down and say ok you know i'm going to write about this issue of fracking or i'm just going to you know write some fire to get people jumping up about like what how do you tackle that how do you approach each song each song is kind of approach very differently but for the most part i'm right. my lyrics behind the driver's seat i know it's a little risky but. it's very rural areas i can drive out and enjoy the scenery.

and be out of the city put on a instrumental usually the beep guides 1st take out my beats through different producers go from there and so you're literally like right behind the wheel of a car and that beautiful directs the co you know they're going to painted sky landscape and you're just sitting there like listen to examine and write them out yeah exactly a lot of times on free stuff to think of the ideas and then put it down on paper. who are some of your inspirations and have. many inspirations i guess from my youth the 1st hip hop song i heard was probably run d.m.c. or chill raji tracks and as far as emceeing goes there's so many different amazing talented mcs that have inspired me to name a few. big pine big arrow care as one percy p. . micah 9 and freestyle fellowship evidence the dilated peoples those

are very influential artists of the good variety and you can see that not reflected in your work and said you don't feel bad but you can definitely feel that style and. one of the things that's interesting too is your work you work a lot with young people and. you know how has your work with those young people how was that inspired the music and the art that you create the youth of always inspired me since the beginning in especially when times when i guess an artist may get tired of war now from trying to continue working with the youth has been very inspirational because they provide so much support 1st of all and they keep things brand new and fresh for me i don't get worn out or i don't complain a lot a lot of people say like how do you keep going in not complaining about being on the road all. time. just going back home and doing youth outreach it just makes me i get happy true happiness by working with the youth i was always raised in

a classroom setting i come from a family of educators and healers so i've always been in the classroom since i was a kid my mom has been a teacher and a big inspiration for that so when people ask why are you so connected to that it was it's just kind of just who i am and was brought up that way and raised that way . working with the youth also gives me a sense of purpose that's much deeper than. working for just myself for what would you say monetary gain or certain things like that or some are just going for the fame like that's never really been a focus of mine but. practitioners and see i feel like i have a responsibility to give back and that's what i really focus on that it's a big focus of part of my mission couldn't afford the jaw on magazine 44 and a 4th that joan ordered school wasn't a boarding school forced the move got chores and more sports in a dorm but only one course of fire chief kept the wood burning before morning outside the house early at 440 past the sheep rug on the floor by the door in the

dormitory escaped out of corporate doors and explored by mob or pony here to take it back home because ya not the present to scrub the present not your face and scrape the white the residue resumes like beams of people resonate with resolute. able to cope with all the pain that we soak in the next generations of welcome but before the preservation was a home you know the nation was stolen but i'm in a sweat lodge see in a vision it's like i'm back out the boom dreamin that grandmother moon in the fetal position. good food descriptions sound up the tasing even for the owners so how to choose the

pet food industry is telling us what to feed our pets really more based on what they want to sell us than was necessarily good for the pet turns out that food may not be as healthy as people believe and we have animals that have you know diabetes in arthritis they have auto immune disorders allergies we are actually creating these problems it's a huge of a demagogue problems all of them i believe can be linked to very simple problem of diet and some dog owners so heartbreaking stories about their pets last treats a larger corporations are not very interested in proving or disproving the value of their food because they're already making a $1000000000.00 on it and there's no reason to do that research. in the united states presidential candidates debate the future of the u.s. and the world. max kaiser and stacy herbert dig into the burning questions of this election cycle one self big every week wealth tax student debt trade was

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your culture. but there are some places but i can look at somebody and just take a quick glance and they almost look at me with some type of sense of resentment there are people out there who believe that. we're only one kind of people i mean there's so many different tribes that exist here in the country and we're all very different a lot of times people to like you know we're sitting here at a bar a lot of times people think that we're just alcoholics myself. i've been over like 6 years alcohol free and i there's many of us who would never even drink or did drugs before so that's another misconception people believe that we were poor but we really were very rich in culture tradition cultural heritage

a lot of people also believe that. every tribe gets per capita are like we we're helped out are like where we get a helping hand no matter what was really not the case sometimes when you come to the deep parts of the reservations or the most rural areas i think a lot of people in music they only see the big names in the big lights right like they're only used to see in the cat on the m.t.v. or the cat on the cover of a magazine things like that but that it's a bigger world than that i've heard it described sort of like you know if you become in if i don't artist at a certain time you can you know either be in it for monetary gain and be like this was to be considered as a rapper but i consider myself more as and see and i think that allows myself to be more community based and not a self-serving entrepreneur more like you know i'm here of service as well for. representing myself my family my friends but also the culture of hip hop and that sense of pride in me being proud of who i am as an as it in that manner and also as

and see it gives me strength but also gives me direction to what i'm actually doing here with the music hip hop is. save my life so. me being me being part of the culture is just i mean i want to contribute just as much as i can chip papa's help to mean so when they sort of save your life or how did hip hop save your life. hip hop saved my life. through the friendships and bonds and through the practice of itself i felt like as i was working on these skills the skills were also working on me to become a better person and started out as a homeless artist and if it wasn't for the hip hop community or the hip hop scene at that time i wouldn't have had a place to stay i wouldn't have had. food and just basic survival needs so hip hop community has been there for me since day one and what advice would you

give you know our younger. our tribe of inner generational trauma or trauma. a big part of growing as artists was realizing that i had to. actualize myself. for much more potential than i would have. myself. as a positive. living

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a fan of up man up in a manner. of speech which i'll just have to just take it to stop just to talk to the president they stopped that. but that's just that's just west of the tracks just of success rates because they can force that to be torn up on the bed just just just water freezes testy water but that's because it's not my friends it's just sort of the magic pot that's like to make these plastic ones looks like celtic might think you want to present the street i'll head up but don't get caught up in the tracks as i sped up somewhat abruptly because our steel they've been missing it's at the foot of the truck to deal with the babbitt genocidal cop is no surprise that medicine is still spinning in his pocket it's a box he could give up in a big fish trap if they don't mind the very hysterical times about every complaint but if i share it with some cabbage you might say never your life back to the hocks the same back with all that tradition and not my decision on him you do have. you know political nature what you're talking about because i think

a lot of what you rub about a lot of what you're songs are about you know they like you mentioned with fracking and things like that you know you put those those flavors in there how important is music to changing. politics or changing in issue or attacking an issue or making people aware of an issue like how important is music to. feel like music can inspire and empower many people and i feel like at the messages there that. or you look at it like the last song that you did for like the last song that you did for us that's such an enlightening song and it's such a powerful song using the mix of you know your heritage and your people as well as the drumbeat in the hip hop flavor in the archipelago you know that you know that song has about that song teaches as a tribal person you kind of grow up loving the environment and that's it and that's inside you already instilled so. doesn't make you

a. the titian sort of speak but the issues that politics that you know surround it they directly relate to our lives and way to life so. it's a responsibility for me to create music that. inspires and helps empower others because i was just inspired in this empowered from hearing music from a lot of the greats and legends of hip hop pioneers is that it's a continuation is you're right you know it's a beautiful continuation. i want to finish up and ask you you know when you look at your career and you look at where you're going you know you're only 33 years old you've got a long career in front of you got a lot more music to write a lot more beauty to produce on this world what do you what do you imagine or what do you hope your legacy use with your music and who you are. and i got inspired from reading something i think from kara's warner somewhere where he's making music for the future generations creating a catalog that can last and also transcend generations i would like for

my music to help inspire future generations and also help anybody in need who. who feels alone or phil's. depressed i mean. i make music just to help a lot and i do make music just the likes i do have tracked i just did fire not really. just focus on a specific concept but it's hard to see the ripple effects of us sometimes because we're just moving and moving and moving and moving i hope to look back one day and be able to. thrive with my music career but also really it's want to give back tenfold as much as i received i mean i got to say my hip hop has been there since the beginning so it's hard for me to say what i really want out of it it's hard to describe man i just sometimes that the music speaks for itself. and that ladies and gentlemen is our show for you to day thank you all very much for watching and

remember in this world we are not. told that we are loved enough so i tell you all i love you i am tyrrel but keep on watching those hawks and have a great day and night everybody. please. time after time called her ration to repeat the same mantra sustainability it's very important to excel or a transition to sustainable transport sustainability stay in her manner the more equitable and sustainable well. they claim their production is complete the hamas does need the numbers lieblich. kakadu to compass my models and not it does not the present companies want us to feel good about buying their products while the damage is being done far away this is the canal this must be done even as i mean let's

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