tv Politicking RT January 10, 2020 5:30pm-6:00pm EST
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standing by no not at all on fact there just been some more rockets fired into the green zone in baghdad no i think this phase perhaps is over their explicit retaliation for the assassination of their senior national security official cause i'm still in money but this tension will continue as long as the united states and iran are not negotiating are not sitting down and talking about peace so it's far from over do you see that coming. it's very hard for me to envision right now and less donald trump is prepared to offer iran some to some incentive some economic incentives as you know the trumpet ministration has put into place a policy of what it calls maximum pressure which entails a an oil embargo an effort to prevent iran from exporting any oil there have been efforts that that have been made french president emanuel macro has made these
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efforts but they require the united states to offer iran some sanctions relief in return iran would return to compliance with the nuclear deal that trump withdrew from back in 2018 i go as you read i'm more optimistic the u.s. military strength in the persian gulf is rather overwhelming so ryan has to avoid a military confrontation that's direct head on with the u.s. military. in terms and i think they're scared because you know the targeting of the general makes the war afraid that they even though you know it starts to become less obvious military targets they feel jeopardized that even the regime they feel jeopardized look what happened to the last of it today too that he died. i think sake should through leaf at some point as part of a day go see to deal bake sets but i sure that the rides really want to push military options against the world's most powerful military at this point
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a type. you mean suze i guess you stand. together while we do that. it's a very good question look you know trump could have taken the obama era nuclear deal and he could have improved it he could have asked the iranians for talks on other issues there was a channel established in that deal for high level u.s. iran in gauge mitt but when he walked out of the deal he gave up that channel and now he's talking about nato and others i mean there was no need for this except that he wanted to get rid of obama's signature foreign policy achievement and please his donors to his political campaign from a strategic point of view it was very foolish you know let's look at the consequences iran is walking out of the nuclear deal our allies throughout the
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region and in europe are very upset by this escalation the u.s. will probably have to leave iraq which means that isis will grow stronger again and can threaten us in our homeland and threaten the europeans and the civil society movements that we've seen in places like iraq and iran are being pushed deep underground now. they know that they have no chance if they come out and protest their own governments are going to be ruthlessly repressed so this is a loss this is not a win my goal do you have to agree with part of that though i mean i do partly agree with this i mean with the trap administration generally we've see the press that it is chaos you know we see this with a lot of vacancies throughout the bit astray should. state departments etc that's the security so it's not a very thoughtful approach i think that the deal that president needed was weaker that it should have that he agreed to it too fast but i think that the critics of the deal subtypes oversold its flaws add that they wreak havoc. see the united
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states who mistakenly thought the president gave nuclear weapons and all kinds of terrible things of the deal got vilified excessively and i don't think the president trap in fact has a thoughtful policy over fortunately. 4 but i also have to look at that you know there's a lot of bad actors within the writing government they were bade the danger the deal had add that there are other issues other than just active nuclear weapons program this ballistic missiles which may be nuclear capable support of terrorism and i have to also add you know if this government is actually toppled we never do what that might have it is a bad government it's a repressive government that would be an excellent thing i think everyone has to be careful president trip also has flaws but if we keep say the sky is the persian gulf and if god willing we see
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a new government in iraq that's better that we had up looking stupid as i because i think there is a lot to criticize with the trip of a straight shot legitimately and i think is that al a bit of recklessness of how things are executed. he has to forge the united states troops from the region he. no i don't think he'll succeed in forcing us troops from the region but he will i think succeed in forcing us troops from iraq and probably syria the iraqi parliament has voted to expel the americans i think as long as the tension exists between the u.s. and iran puts iraq in an impossible position and if i may comment on something michael said he said it would be great if the iranian government fell well that depends on what comes after i mean if all we have is another failed state in the middle east at this time a state of $80000000.00 people 3 times the size of iraq that is not going to be an improvement on what we already have now the problem with the trump administration
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is that we don't know what the goal of their policies are is it regime change is that a new deal is it a photo op between president trump and the president of iran we simply do not know and there's an old line you know from alice in wonderland if you don't know where you're going any road will take you there. michael de paulo she released with the code. i mean nobody goes with the trap administrations go and i would be one of the 1st to admit this but i think that argument that we can't afford another failed state in iraq as justification to accept a dictatorship that's repressive that is murderous that is the doublewide state sponsor of terrorism since about 8 or shortly after the revolution and it just it's kind of a couple we we should be afraid afraid of move it the middle east even though there are costs can i just say that everything trump has done has made regime change for
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the better in iran less likely as i mentioned the civil society protests that we saw in iran instead of that we're seeing people out on the street mourning qassam saloon monny and the government is rallying people around the threat of war from the united states so if if your desire is for a better government in iran we're going about it entirely the wrong way. to. meet our traditional allies including jury did saudi arabia frats jervy generally dado could ollie help us in this regard i dos some types we've had some conflicts but i think they're very ports that george did add side uribe are very important for supporting us interests of the rigid. stability you know that's why we've been allies with for somebody
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decades but we do have course an air persian conflict shiite sooty conflict so there are some 6 here it issues that we don't actually want to inflate be here but i think that in order to tickets paid iran saudi arabia and the gulf states including united arab emirates are very important and that helps. i think containing a country that could actually lash out as a way to deal with domestic discontent that's where one of the places that our allies in the region are very very important but listen this questions generations . never gotten a good answer why don't people get along. you know we had we had a shot at it with with obama we weren't friends with iran but we weren't enemies for the 1st time in 40 years and that's what president trump threw away that that possibility of detente that possibility of increased people to people connections
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more iranians coming here more americans going there a better life for the iranian people as long as we have this adversarial relationship nobody wins but you know the people of iran of the biggest losers and it's really a shame it's a lovely country i've been there 9 times has wonderful cultural artifacts which our president has threatened to destroy. and this country deserves better and we would benefit from a relationship with the most important country in that part of the world. we have more in common with iranians frankly than we do with many saudis. so the wish to call me to play a big part michel. that's definitely in courts and you know our allies particularly france united kingdom in some cases germany have played denmark played a major roles in helping us in military operations in that region. i disagree with
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some of the things that barbara just said by the way i think we have to be strong against this major state sponsor of terrorism it causes the great states and they chant death to america so i mean we can't be naive about it a lot of the people were with us some of the moves by truck may have backfired to a certain extent i believe in a very very short term basis i don't really see any evidence yet of any significant lasting damage i mean frankly the president's operation took out a meijer bad terrorist who is responsible for the deaths of many americans and represents everything that the american iranian conflict has been about since. the islamic revolution which is basically to fight american influence in the region and i don't think that we should mourn that we took out this particular bad actor he represents the worst of this iranian government but i don't think that we really
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lost an opportunity of the times and i think if we act weak with this terrorist government things will move in another bad direction that we give them free reign to commit terrorism throughout the middle east and throughout the world we can't have that either unless god guess when they think all of this is going on politicking continues after the break. terrorists along to russia and like this. you know world of big partisan law and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that made
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stream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. aeroflot russian airlines.
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chump is a new yorker and you know he looks at the global picture and he sees the tension in the middle age he sees iran doing a dance with the back of the neighbors and there's like an hour let's just cut to the chase this is take out a guy in iraq and we're going to get more money printing right away because i want to make my yacht premed this week at a y. fonts are out this is the new york way of doing things i said it when i 1st got elected it's like i have a new yorker in the white house and i've been in new york around the world i'm a new yorker you know i got diet a lot of. good food descriptions sound up a tasing even for the owners so how to choose the pet food industry is telling us what to feed our pets really more based on what they want to sell us than was necessarily good for the pet turns out food may not be. people believe we have
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animals that have you know diabetes and arthritis they have auto immune disorders allergies we are actually creating these problems it's a huge epidemic of problems all of them i believe can be linked to very simple problem of diet and some dog owners so heartbreaking stories about their pets streets the larger corporations are not very interested in proving or disproving the value of their food because they're already making it a $1000000000.00 on it and there's no reason to do that research. back to politicking continue the conversation with their counsel barbara slaven director of the atlantic council's future of iran initiative she's in washington and in miami michael cental foreign policy and middle east expert ok barbara
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where's it all go on. oh larry i just hope we don't get ourselves into a full scale war with iran i hope both sides can somehow step back from the brink i would like to see us go back into negotiations with iran i would like to see an end to the travel ban that makes it so hard for you iranians to come to this country we are hurting our our own interests by not having a normal or at least a somewhat respectful relationship with this very ancient and important country we have a terrible. travel ban because. well the travel ban i can't really defend because it seemed to from what appeared to be a racist campaign promise to bad muslims so i can't defend that travel ban yes there are legitimate security issues iran is a major sponsor of terrorism we've heard this from every administration reagan bush
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clinton obama it's a very serious issue and in fact you know enormous respect for virus experience i'm actually surprised that she hasn't addressed that at all because she's talked about the ancient persian society but i am actually surprised she hasn't even address their support of hamas or hezbollah which i think are very serious issues and it's not it would be a major break with american tradition and foreign policy for 30 years to ignore the fact that iran is a huge sponsor of terrorism and i answer if you think you know i'm not ignoring that at all of course iran doesn't think they are terrorists they these are iran's partners in the region no i'm not ignoring that at all but i think that if the united states wants to deal with these issues it has to be able to sit down and talk to iran and there have been opportunities to the to just to discuss these issues that were squandered particularly by the george w. bush administration after 911 and i write about them at length in my book so you
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know there are always 2 sides to a story. and i think to understand iran would help us to put together some proper policies that might make the situation better for everyone we're dealing with a government that denies the holocaust says that while it is about yes it doesn't know that there are no there are individuals within iran who try to minimize the holocaust but the vast majority of iranians do not and in fact there are still 10000 jews living in iran jews have lived in iran for 5000 years iranians i have discovered in my visits there are anti semitic they don't like arabs they don't have however feelings of hostility towards jews so i am sorry obviously you've never been to the country if you had you might have a different impression though i mean i don't know if you misheard what i said i mean maybe just misheard i said the government is very well documented i'm aware of months of the government elements of the government but not all of the government
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and remember it has what part of the government has ever refuted a holocaust denial these are government conferences president hassan rouhani as i recall wish to happy russia seana to jews everywhere upon taking office in 2013 i mean that is a that is that was i mean you can find examples of the nazis doing the same thing the fact you know here is i don't think you have them in any vs president of iran mahmoud ahmadinejad who was a holocaust denier but not even many people within the government it wasn't just it wasn't just him you're actually i think we're going to have both of you back. and to be continued ok for your time today you're very welcome while tensions with iran are the main the impeachment battle continues the war front will be around question is have an impeachment impact and when can the to be done. for this we talked with douglas formally and i turned who joins us from miami.
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with the. killing of. 2 rounds originally to we go on with the impeachment process. but i think larry that it certainly seems to be a huge distraction in terms of trying to get this thing geared up it has to be really it has to be the last thing on the minds of the senators up in d.c. right now. are you surprised and all i am a little bit surprised because frankly i thought that the articles of impeachment the 2 that were passed what about 2223 days ago would already be over in the senate and they would be under way by this time to be perfectly honest well as and said in the church the speaker of the house and played better of the president. boy
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that's a good question larry i think that they're they're basically at this 3 way impasse where you've got mitch mcconnell who's standing firm saying look send them over or we're not starting you've got palosi saying hey i want to dictate the terms of the trial before us in the thing over and almost you know the president sitting on the sidelines kind of watching as a spectator when he think it's going to go. well i think eventually pelosi has got a sense something over i mean how much longer can she wait can she hold him until i don't know the summer the fall when the election's going on i know that larry look when i was trying cases as a prosecutor you couldn't sit on and you return the charges you had to send them over to a judge for the jury to pick up and start try or you got a case thrown out of court yeah bill and you were plus
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a who do you knew the defense was right and you knew in a school says start of the suit. and if you had a certain date in the dean sense that the information that they won't give to you what do you do boy oh boy that's that's a great point and it sort of goes to this point that i've thought about a lot is that politics and prosecution don't mix do that i mean this is political that's what this is it's political. very little about the law is really involved in this process and it's it's basically unlike the clinton administration the clinton impeachment and even the andrew johnson impeachment you look at those the only 2 for the president never nixon got an ever got around to it but even when you look at johnson and clinton there was bipartisan movement on both of those impeachment but we just don't have that here no you're right.
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the seed of mcconnell. you know what i think there's plenty of blame to go around on this one both in the house and in the senate i sit back and i kind of watch this and i said you know why don't these guys and ladies get back to the work of the people i mean that's what we sent him up there for not to sit there and point fingers and throw lob bombs back and forth wellborn says he's willing to testify if subpoenaed these things he will testify. i'd say if i'm betting right now larry i'm betting he does not testify not that i don't think he might have some information but it seems like that the senators really with the exception of maybe one or 2 don't really want to hear a lot of extra testimony other than what's occurred in the house again you look at the clinton impeachment very different they didn't even the house judiciary
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committee under clinton didn't even conduct an investigation or they were relying solely and exclusively larry on the qin starr report something that again didn't happen here. ok the time continues as planned we don't know where it's going with boston you don't think. where is that all going to do things. so i think. if i'm a bad man so here's what i bet on that eventually palosi is goddess in these 2 articles of impeachment over to the senate they're then going to take up the case and they're going to do something a very good very interesting went back and looked at the clinton case closely in that case robert byrd who was with the democrats of course from west virginia moved to dismiss the case as they started their initial arguments now because the
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republicans held the majority that motion was do not in this case. down to a dollar that while the republicans moved to dismiss the case they put it up for a vote it's granted and this case is out the door. and john bolton's writing a book and we'll learn more when he thinks and then comes out. a couple 1000000 dollars then and we'll get to know eventually it's interesting we bought larry because really i look at that kind of scratch my head if he had something you know if he had something we had probably already know if it was something that was. told to you so that if you were representing the president you'd make a motion to dismiss and seek a quick food to get things over with. i think that's where we're going i think that as soon as this thing gets teed up in the senate you're going to see
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lindsey graham move to dismiss this case and by majority which is all they need larry a majority motion is going to carry and this case is dismissed but the public all polls indicate once john bolton to testify before the senate because juicy. and. you know in the interest to end is probably important and think well you make a good point and if they decide if the senator's aside hey we got to hear from bolton i don't think it's going to be this sort of drama moment where they open the back of the senate chambers and he walks in and you testify again let's let's look at clinton they had a couple of witnesses who testified they took a break the senators took a break on the out took some depositions and then brought in and read excerpts so it was a lot different than what we might expect if we were watching perry mason. the
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consensus is that even bolton testifies trump will be acquitted you. do larry i think i think acquittal is coming down the part of bolton infused with the house of firsts and he said he should be subpoenaed and he said he will answer the subpoena could bolton come forward on his own. could here to go to a sit down interview somewhere and he could in fact he could ride a synopsis of his testimony right now and send it over to mitch mcconnell or used is still i think larry subject to executive privilege which is an established privilege that the supreme court recognized in the nixon case. thanks so much always low tolerance to let's do it more often let's do it larry good to see you sir di lois former us attorney for the southern district of florida thank you for joining me on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on
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internet. the u.s. secretary of state is grilled by reporters demanding a justification for the killing of iran's top general. in the us held its military in iraq as a force for good in the middle east after baghdad office american troops to meet the country. and western powers claim ukrainian airline was shot down in iran by a missile about before international experts had a chance to analyze the data. live from moscow where it's just past 2 in the morning you're watching our to international welcome to the program. now the year.
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