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situation the development in the region which is is a cause of concern for park assan park sunny's because everything that that could cause in the region as a matter of concern that diplomatic speak for you condemn this as a nation by don't trouble i think you have to look at it from the or a perspective of the 2 you are easily i guess on condemns a lot of things we have been very clear in this regard i mean has reset the pharmacist. close ties with saudi arabia and iran of course only money was supposedly carrying documents about a reproach war between the saudi arabian raney and governments what did your foreign minister mean by saying that pakistan has deep historic religious and cultural brotherhood with iran the share a very long border with iran be in the same region via neighbor and we have all this taken this position that. he would like the unity among the muslim countries
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he would like to reduce detention between the any differences that exist between the muslim countries and that's what our stance has been how do we talk about having the assassination as we said what's pakistan's position when donald trump tweeted that he wanted to destroy cultural sites in iran but i think. the world statement and our leaders have reacted to that and the we have this is this is how we look at it that any action that could destabilize the region that could escalate detention in the region is a matter of concern to us that's the same as the british government's position is although boris johnson did send 2 warships immediately to iran through as it was montrose major missile defended to the shores i mean would pakistan join in any u.k. intervention against iran i think our position is very clear if you look at the statements coming out of park a sign that we would not like to be part of any. adventure and we would
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not like to be part of anything that causes. of the region or peace in the region in feathers in the foreign office here they are saying they also want the escalation let's move on then to kashmir because there's not that much about kashmir here in the major nation media what is the situation as you understand it there are reports that the internet again is down and that journalists. haven't been able to cover what's going on what is going on in kashmir well i think what you have seen their fleet is the development post 5 august unilateral illegal decision which has been taken on measures that have been taken by the indian government to change the start as of kashmir. ever since there has there is a humanitarian crisis people are looking looking at that humanitarian crisis from the you know closing the shutting down of the internet services or any of the
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community mosque of indication and the valley has been actually out of contact with the rest of the word is under siege for the last more than 5 months now it is 162 days by now and. i have been in touch with the a lot of media houses here and elsewhere and none of them to have any access to the indian are quite dismayed once the people allow to good there and get to know what what has happened and how the people. in our part kashmir have suffered i think that this would be the type of and people would come to the world would come to know what has happened you has written as unnamed an mmog mosque thousands of them people have worried about those who were disappeared and finally they found out in 2009 as a result of the west occasion which was carried out by international people stray
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women which later on file a report of 100 page about how many mosque if they discovered how many bodies were found on those gifts and the indian and how india has been actually lying about it and there. would be people who infiltrated the sea or the border international border and they were shot down by in the encounters but that was not the kiss butt. i wish i'd known in the fake encounter will the if you government as you know denies all accusations of atrocities indeed denies that it is occupied by the government they believe it is theirs what is your just saying wait until the press is allowed back in to be honest not actually do none of the via doing everything in our capacity actually we have reached out to almost every member country of denied now in our nations we constantly you know create teddy of
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innocent development over there are people what is going to do we have been inviting attention of the international community that it just time it is high time that international community should intervene to save the situation in india not quite kashmir where the people are suffering for the last more than 7 decades now pakistan is calling for you know united nations security council emergency meeting or war because nothing seems to be actually happening in the past 5 months and that's that's very sad that's very sad that the international community has not taken enough interest or not taken that keen interest to call india to account i believe that 1st of all i would like to really the opportunity that the parliamentarians over head and you kid they have really taken a very strong stance against what's going on in india correct kashmir in terms of human rights wallish ns good britain as well member of the un security council guesses to permanent member at all of them to raise this at the un security council
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evy have been actually asking all d p 5 members to look at the situation there if you look at the has demanded that independent inquiry commission to visit indian occupied kashmir to see the situation on the ground not only that the un high commissioner office has also. many times over for sending. you know independent commission again nothing rejected general good tears it has to be said and india says pakistan is supporting. the financial action task force established by the g 20 saying that the august is involved in corruption. do you think that is holding more sway with the international community than the voices coming out of this but i think india has been found you know raising this thing again alleging that. connection between
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parkes on and these non-state actors. if you if you go back to feverishly statement by the prime minister after the pajama. prime minister many times asked india to provide any evidence they have never provided any evidence let me tell you one thing that india has always looked for the opportunities to raise the tension in the region and it has always been the by virtue of the responsible attitude has endangered the peace of the region india has mustered the art of actually carrying out false flag operations. in india also in india acquired kashmir and blame it on pakistan all the non-state agonizes all of that is you know just turning to cooperation with china because pakistan is a close alliance with china it wasn't too long ago china russia and iran were having joint drills in the persian gulf i understand that china and pakistan have
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a joint military drills in the persian gulf and of course the kashmir crisis affects beijing as well any joint cooperation between pakistan and china to resolve the kashmir crisis as you consider it let me 1st of what one point to what you said in the end that india has been denying all these things what all india can deny india has a perpetrator d. crimes against humanity in india about kashmir and has been doing it with impunity . as for the you have mentioned you know there to parks on china a relationship is pretty deep and we are you know. more of a relationship is not just restricted to the military exercises but you know that we have jointly developed fighter aircraft just 17000 of the have also in the
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economic side that you must have heard about the chatterbox and economic order which is the flagship project of. initiative china but the countries have been trying to ensure that the potential of this region which is which is which is huge should be exploited to the advantage to provided one to the people over there because you know there is a highest concentration of the people in abject poverty in that part of the world he will just finally very briefly as i could restrain landed you know boris johnson was reelected or elected prime minister just very brief the imminent trade deal between pakistan and britain breaks it. well i think very well because their bags searched on one hand if it was a challenge for the british people i think we have seen it as an opportunity and looking into all the opportunity as to how best nothing concrete there yes no no actually yes it is we already have a very tradition of the strong relationship between and u.k.
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we have a very strong business relationship between the 2 countries we are negotiating we are in contact with the the british side is also in contact with us and. we know that the into that phase of trollish of this is going to start least i believe that side by side they would be undertaking those activities very bad they would conclude the anyones business 7 months with the countries like pakistan i question thank you thank you very much after the break from a united ireland to war in the middle east we are former irish defense and justice minister helen chancer if lack of trust in our media and politicians is fueling global instability.
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back britain's breakfast mandarins were no doubt watching closely u.k. prime minister boris johnson's meeting in the past 48 hours with irish prime minister. but kamber and could be trusted as johnson drives direct straight the u.k. from the european union revelations from one of his former cabinet colleagues alan shatter in his new book frenzy and betrayal the i definitely have a political assassination arguably suggest not former justice and defense minister joins me now from naples in florida alan before we go to more pressing issues arguably about ireland and its place in the european union tell me about the book frenzy and betrayal the anatomy of a political assassination and why it may interest any politician or person in public life concerned with the truth well the book really has 2 different levels to it the main story is extraordinary and bizarre events that took place in our london
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irish politics in the 2014 period i was central to those events i was minister for defense and minister for justice at the time and politics were really taken over by a variety of applications all of which were false which are cast doubts both on my honesty and my capacity to do the job i was doing. there was a media frenzy around these events great number of untruths told at the time and i did what i thought was the right thing which is get on with my job and tell the truth and it's taken 5 years of controversy and difficulty and. independent investigations and court cases to establish that all of the issues that i addressed i dealt with competent there and i always told the truth but it's a broader story than doubted that i started writing the book in 2015 after i ceased to be a member of government and it was about the importance of truth the truth matters
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the manner in which what i described was fabricated truth has taken over and that's become part of today's contemporary international political debate what i mean by fabricated truth is that people decide for strategic or selfish reasons to tell lies the lies are repeated and they gain so much public credibility that anyone who tries to challenge untruths themselves end up being targeted and vilified never more relevant than today arguably with all the accusations flying around about boris johnson and of course donald trump president the country where you are right now but when you talk about the media and the media frenzy what does it say about the idea of balance in the media given that some may find it disturbing that your vindication in multiple inquiries only came much later when
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you were in the middle of it you seemed utterly powerless wrote the difficulty was journalists became so excited and attached to scandal stories that they lost the interest in archie investigation the truth they became personally invested in simply promoting the now shift that they thought was the most interesting one the most the one that attracted public attention the one that created headlines and that's the real difficulty in a real problem in today's world my argument is those are those in the context of the need to produce instant stories the pressure of news media now on. line the pressure of 247 t.v. that there are too many journalists easily seduced by simple stories who aren't invested in checking credibility or fact checking and it's extraordinarily dangerous period aren't or any other parliamentary democracy to find ourselves in
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a space where truth has ceased to matter where the rule of law seizes to matter and where simply the only thing that appears to be important is to take on and promote a narrative generates news headlines sells newspapers and attracts online media attention i'm afraid of anyone watching wants to know the specifics of what brought down an irish just as in defense minister they're going to probably have to buy the book but just i did wonder that the scandal seems to begin by these a bizarre ideas of surveillance of the irish police force the garda did it not occur to you that it would still not already said everyone is bugged anyway by g.c. h.q. in britain anyway the whole story was a pointless read the beginning the sunday times newspaper a murdoch paper produced a sensational story that the police have their supervisory body under surveillance
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and there was no ifs buts or maybe about the story it was asserted it was taken up by opposition politicians it was taken up by media. i was the minister for justice at the time i knew not think of the alleged surveillance within 24 hours stablished that the story was false when i try to publicly set out the detail of what occurred i was accused of cover up but of lying as minister for justice my credibility was very viciously attacked and without going into the detail of the story by the time the truth was a sabha. been forced to resign from government but it really is i suppose a story of universal relevance about the importance when allegations are made against any individual be they a politician are someone. otherwise in public life or in private life of the
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importance of them being investigated of them not being simply validated to generate headlines but of the true facts being established and journalist approaching these issues with an objective investigation of mine yes but if people don't know your name as well as they might it's really no leo varadkar is a champion of neoliberalism of identity politics and yet he doesn't go of very well in your own your book taught me about one point your religion of peace with the god of commissioner martin clunes one of the individuals involved in the events that occurred is the current prime minister in ireland the override occur an individual with whom i was a colleague in cabinet who for reasons best known to him saw fit to. raise these issues knowing i was out of the country and to run
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a narrative that ultimately proved in the context of my engagements with these issues to be entirely false narrative. i'm still awaiting the day for him to apologize for the manner in which he conducted himself because if he had genuine concerns around the issues that he publicly raised we were cabinet colleagues were simply in offices down the corridor from each other and i found myself in the rather odd position where he i was under attack by him as was the former guard the commissioner at a time when i was on a an official visit to mexico of all places for st patrick's day events we always invite to the irish geezer going on to this program to try and refute some of the. or allegations but certainly in the book it's clear that you're alleging use of anonymous sources and in this country ahead of the general election that elected boris johnson the b.b.c. political editor norah kearns were got to retract anonymous or stories that seem to
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defame labor party activists do you think that highlights the danger of anonymous sourcing obviously it can be very useful. i think really it comes down to one issue i think in public life as in private life being truthful is important if you have genuine concerns about an issue and you're working with colleagues who you can it can engage with you engage directly with them i don't think you need to talk to them through a public microphone or through the use of anonymous sources briefing newspapers but when that sort of approach is taken it's unfortunate that some journalists are willing simply to go with what the anonymous source is telling them because it's going to generate political excitement and create headlines i think yes i agree anonymous sources play a role and indeed anonymous sources can be extremely important to ensuring truth is actually talked to power and issues that are being dealt with scandalously are
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properly addressed and brought out into the open but i think there's an obligation on journalists when briefed by anonymous sources to check the validity of what the story is they're being told as best they can but unfortunately in today's world. belief seems to trump knowledge and. i think when it comes to facts facts have ceased to matter to far too many people who make judgments and pass judgments and express opinion indeed we now live in a world where opinion i think is given greater importance than knowledge or very briefly before we get on to current events do you think live or add to wouldn't be the shock if you haven't destroyed your career i have no doubt that the manner in which he engaged with the issues that i write about substantially contributed
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beneficially to his reputation because of the perception that was created in the mind of viral. people at the time because of the manner in which he was promoted by the media for the media it's of course manna from heaven when one member of cabinet has perceived either publicly or behind the scenes to be having a go at another member of cabinet and i have no doubt that that contributed beneficially to his reputation well one reason why veronica may go down in history is that boris johnson of course is a bar in london than once it seems as part of the wrecks of negotiations a border down the irish sea do you think that reunification of the island of ireland is now inevitable i think there's a lot of dangerous talk at the moment about reunification of the island of ireland we've been through very troubled times i was a member of the irish parliament for a good part of the what we refer to as the troubles which was effectively 30 years
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in which terrorist organizations such as the ira were murdering and maiming people and unity on the island divide and can be very dangerous talk because of the divisions that exist in ireland and after so many years of engagement and reconciliation i don't think we should be rushing into territorial unity discussions i think the bracks or venture adventure has had a very negative impact in ireland i think it's a great shame that the u.k. are now quite clearly leaving the european union i think the european union contributed very positively to conflict resolution on the island divided into people engaging and i think talk of territorial unity is unnecessary and dangerous talk and i think on occasions during the. discussions unwise things were said
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on all sides i think the unwise things said at a very early stage by the irish. minister and deputy prime minister i think they've now rightly toned down what they're saying and change tack and i think they're right in doing that there's been a lot of. talk about the crisis as regards trump's assassination of survey money in iraq drum 30 wanted nature's help even though ireland isn't a member of nato you were justice minister defense minister shortly after shin feigns allegations of shannon airport being used by the united states for illegal kidnapping came under scrutiny of amnesty international and what rule you think island is going to play in any future conflict that the united states might want to have in the middle east where you have to remember that our land is a small country with very small defense not numbers in our defense force as indeed
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i did a great deal a minister of defense to if sustain the numbers and to try and constructively reform the defense forces as a great sadness to me that since i've ceased to be minister of defense the attention our defense forces need is not being given to them the main role our defense forces play apart from dealing with issues of potential domestic terrorism is to engage in united nations peacekeeping operations and i hope ireland will continue to constructively engage in those operations were not formally a member of nato. the. irish defense forces will have no role in any conflict to make take place and i'm hoping of course there's no conflict i think it will be a very good idea as a former irish minister for defense who would've chair and european ministers defense meetings when out and had the presidency of the european union has if
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america cooperated and constructively engaged with other members of nato nato has a very important role to. very particularly in europe and in the context of the baltic states and ensuring. that russia doesn't. detrimental impact its neighboring countries we already know there are difficulties major difficulties with 3 ukraine and unfortunate donald trump since he became president being going hot and cold with nato sometimes he seems to seek to help other times he is publicly criticizing nato countries and i think frankly there's a need for less public rhetoric next that's megaphone rhetoric which i think is designed for american political purposes it is harmful and certainly doesn't contribute positively to relations between the united states and those european and other countries who are members of nato thank you and that's it for the show will
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be back on saturday with the looming u.s. war in iran with the man at the forefront of the previous nato intervention will not get any spokesperson during the libyan civil war was a liberal until then he would talk about social media and on you tube. as the democrats gear up to officially start their 2020 presidential primary to assess donald trump's performance in office a report card of sorts where is he kept his promises and where has he come up short will any of this really matter. descriptions sound appetising even for the owners. to choose pet food industry
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a young woman in fact you are one of the last living survivors of the nazi ellis asked am aware of it. all you like. you can never forget what they are going now auschwitz was really like to be inhaled close you would never believe it was a human ghetto to have as a hobby of course for 33 years of growth and the curve it it all seemed so a lot offered by the side. when i get out on the farm saw your moss on 3rd next the cliffs and hopefully bless her. join me every 1st day on the all excitement and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see of that.
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russia's prime minister and his entire cabinet resigned to allow the president to make a series of amendments to the constitution. has now nominated a new head of government to replace dmitri medvedev. the proposed changes will give parliament of the power to appoint ministers a task which is currently responsibility of the president. so there is just that you according to the constitution of the russian federation the president needs only the state duma's consent to make official appointments the president appoints the cabinet his deputies and all the ministers i propose shifting this power to the state duma and also the approval of the russian government's chairman. after nearly 2 years.
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