this is joyce state. rice grace suggests least systemic deception is the late show which. brings up joel. welcome ramona watching our. tour and joining did today is nick brown of the extinction and you've been watching what's been going on in davos this week you know ground 0 spoke trump spoke extinction rebellion is there i understand what are they actually doing there what what's the right one of the block in the road to davos make and i'll let make it a little more difficult for the one percent to conspire against the rest of the world. that is basically what they do in davos from what i understand the mc there's been a lot of big fights in the media this week. like a sudden one was bigger than it seemed to be ground 0 and battles war world war of words over climate change will either in your opinion after watching davos and watching this world economic forum over the last few years will either of their speeches actually make an impact on this crowd you know those speeches and the big

words that we hear do they actually mean you know do they make an impact it's a show it's a public relations what they do there what what what has happened is that they understand that they can no longer ignore the crisis and so they put together you know beautiful speeches flowery words to say about it that take the place of real action and they've been doing that really for decades what the clip you just rolled of trumps speech is incredible because he was denouncing the world scientific community as the prophets of yesteryear essentially equating science to witch doctors scientists to which actors that's incredible when you really think about it in the context of you know and to me it's like that idea of oh there prophets of doom are all it's all doom and gloom and we should only focus on the positive that's not going to solve the problem focusing on the positives you know one of the big projects that was talked about at the world economic forum was this one trillion tree initiative i don't know if you've heard of it where the u.s. and other countries would plant 1.2 trillion trees essential deal to offset the

last 10 years of c o 2 emissions now this is a big bold plan and i don't think any of you neither you or i was going to complain about reforesting the world that's a great idea. but is that just kind of another band-aid through the climate change carbon emission problem we've gone through so many iterations of delay from 1st of all industry spinning putting up false experts muddying the waters running tobacco's style campaign of disinformation so that we wouldn't do anything then they've migrated to things like claiming that the only thing that matters is consumer behavior you know so if you just use plastic straws we're fine with that you know and now we're migrating to these kinds of projects you know or carbon offsets and so the bottom line is that throughout each of these situations it's just the way it's just another form of public for the nation's manipulation to prevent what the actual issue is and that is an economy that is based and run off

of massive fossil fuel extraction and burning and that's what we need to stop and that's the government's role and can we do that that's the big question of everybody always carefully true you see a world without the burning of fossil fuels possible care to be done how quickly can we so there's 2 parts to that question the 1st is technological can it be technologically done absolutely we can absolutely shift off of fossil fuels in the next 5 years as extinction rebellions demand to net 0 by 2025 the 2nd part is political and that's where the challenge comes because for decades corporations have known about it governments have known about it and as gratis said so eloquently they have done not a thing and so what extinction rebellion has done is that we went back and we looked at the past century of how campaigns for civil rights human rights had succeeded when they hit the same kind of wall the one the movement for women's suffrage for example in the u.s. the u.k. and other countries hit that wall through traditional politics the movement for

colonial independence in india the movement for civil rights here in the united states all of those movements turned to mass civil disobedience and won through the . technique when they hit the end of the road with political politics nontraditional politics fail and i think we've hit the end of the road when it comes to climate because i don't i don't see you know i don't see the democrats moving forward on this they like the kind of say they are but like at the end of the day i haven't seen enough votes from them here at least here in the us of actually making a change republicans will their sticks in the mud bank going anywhere on this subject so now i think the next step is exactly what you're talking about it's interesting what davos the world economic forum you know you mentioned earlier it's really all just a media show and things like that should should people who are looking to change but at the same time i think a lot of people argue you know hate the elites they're the people that can actually change the world and have the financial ability to do so are sitting there is it

still not good to go in like actually confront them on that i mean you guys are there on the streets but isn't that still could could what are you saying a showing up and being there and speaking to these people might make a difference we have to confront them it's their children's future at stake too if we have the kind of civilizational social collapse that the science is actually predicting if you get to 4 or 5 degrees if you get into a house earth type scenario which is the which is what happened during the earth's biggest mass extinction which is also prompted by climate change by global warming from carbon emissions from volcanoes at the time. then. it's just a fantasy to think that the that the children of the wealthy or anyone is not going to be affected. why do you think they're so why why is the folks in davos or so you know like you said they got their sticker that says i support climate change but they're still or actually doing it is it purely just greed i mean is it purely just i just don't want to stop making the amount of money off of fossil fuels is

really what's preventing it i believe it's systemic the problem is systemic because if any one company was to go and say you know we're going to become more green they'll get out competed by another company that doesn't care about being there simply is ruthless as possible so we have to transform that calculation we can with pressure you know by saying we're simply not going to buy from companies that spend here we're going to demand that banks divest for example. it's that kind of impetus that's going to make the change for the ultimate change needs to be a much deeper structural change and we believe that that can happen through citizens' assemblies as a process to happen in the u.k. as it happened in ireland before there was a deadlock on same sex marriage that was breaking through in ireland by a citizens assembly that is calling people from all walks of life representative of the population to come discuss hear from experts and decide for themselves in place of the corrupt representatives that have paralyzed our society or kaname our lives

for decades. that's brilliant i've never heard that before that's a really good that's a really good concert hope that we see more people like yourself and more people out there making a difference and pushing this forward and trying out the new angles that we need to do because at the end of the day i don't care you can argue with me all over it all day long about oh it whether it's manmade or not manmade i don't care about that the problem is that it's happening at the end of the day it's happening we have to do something about it the argument the time for argument is over so i want to thank you very much for coming on today to educate my audience always a pleasure nick brown of extinction thank you so much always. already ask anyone who's lived in hollywood or washington d.c. for any amount of time. and they will tell you that the amount of plastic people in this world is truly staggering but you know what's more staggering than that is that those amount of plastic people are nowhere near the staggering amount of actual plastic in this world just plastic that we have on this small blue planet

according to recent numbers published in science advances since the 1950 s. human beings have produced roughly 8300000000 tons of plastic with 6300000000 tons now consider waste we are drowning in plastic my friends well thankfully. a few companies have developed an organic way to combat our plastic addictions in los angeles are 2 murders latasha sweet war. but more than $100000000.00 tons of plastic being thrown away every year it's no surprise scientists are working on an eco friendly alternative so imagine a plastic that can break down to be recycled in 10 hours compared to 400 years when you see reusable bags and plastic touted as being more cycle some wonder if it's really that black and white according to the university of georgia there is reportedly 100000000 tons of plastic waste being thrown away every year half of this waste ins up in a landfill taking some 400 years to fully decompose and only

a quarter of it is incinerated producing toxic smoke and there were maiming quarter of that is actually recycled but now efforts are being made to do something about this global crisis one in the making is from a french company called harby os there moto is a reinvention in the life cycle of plastic and the way they go about it is utilizing a process based on enzymes these enzymes that normally eat plants are essentially eating plastic they help break down the plastic into smaller molecules this in turn paves the way for biogeographical plastics this would give consumers more control over single use plastics as these bands would break down quickly for the plastics that would be used several times instead of breaking down faster this plastic could be shredded than recycles but copy us isn't thinking small by any means the start up has already announced a plan with l'oreal cosmetics nestle waters' pepsi and centaury beverage and food

to europe the company will reportedly provide high quality recycled plastics to all mega businesses within the next 4 years and carcass isn't the only one to students founded a silicon valley start up focusing on how engineered bacteria turning plastic into . now the 20 year olds created bio selection and have even another patent pending hoping to make a difference for the plastic that's polluting the world's oceans other research coming out of india sounds promising as well where searchers have reportedly discovered 2 strains of plastic eating bacteria their goal is to fully decompose polish styrene a key component in single use plastic products like cups toys and packaging reporting in los angeles not just sweets r.t. . all right as we're going to break our waters don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics we've covered auto our social media sites and be sure to check out watching the logs the podcast which is now available on spotify awful music and everywhere you list your favorite or not so favorite pod cast coming up democratic

presidential candidate joe biden has been cheerleading internet censorship while on the campaign trail and i am joined by him you should cross in that martin to discuss good old joe's ideas of censorship stay tuned to watch the whole. my uncle the kid seemed completely stable boy tonight. you can go go go go. go go and he.

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it it surrounds us penetrates us and binds the galaxy together yes that is the internet and that's pretty much all it is my friends and one of the biggest ways it's change human existence is its gift of free speech and expression whether good or bad the internet's ability to give voice to the ones voiceless is unmatched and this is all thanks to a small little provision tucked into the communications decency act passed by the united states congress way back in 1996 that old time you see buried in that act is the now famous section 230 which states no provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider or as the electronic frontier foundation thankfully translates online or meter as that host or republican speech are protected against a range of laws that might otherwise be used to hold them legal or you are legally responsible for what others say in do but my friends know how many politicians and

cable news pundits and beltway insiders on both sides of the party to buy it here in the united states are calling for an end to section 230 recently democratic presidential candidate joe biden told the new york times editorial board that quote section 230 should be revoked immediately should be revoked number one for zucker berg and other platforms there was no editorial impact at all on facebook and none none whatsoever it's irresponsible. well joining me now to discuss the good bad and ugly of section $230.00 an internet free speech on the forces that seek to change all that is the president of the eagle former education legal defense fund martin and political analyst and democratic strategist mr crosbie. thank you both for coming on i got to go i want to start by asking number one as i said many pundits and politicians across the spectrum i mean i was shocked to see

tucker carlson the mentally pelosi are even on the same side as they come out and supported removing or rewriting section 230 why is controlling free speech on the internet or changing this section making platforms like twitter and facebook culpable for 30 years or say why is that why does that have bipartisan appeal for different reasons i think that one of the primary ones is during election year obviously we're seeing the propagation of a lot of false information these companies are seen as hosting that information and not doing the fact checking process that we're talking about baseball they basically came out and said that it is not their responsibility to do the fact checking process and they appear on several lines in many cases dr burke has come out and he has made statements that react as though he is a news organization and abiding by those news organization regulations but then again he will also argue that they are not and we also have to look at a lot of the hate speech and rhetoric and the organizations or the individuals who develop basically their own teams of other haters to say the least for religious

groups. and siberia groups who are also been propagated in these online forums and channels so i think that regulation to a certain extent we're thinking about free speech we also have to look at the fact that there are some dangerous things that are happening in a lot of these forums not only the misinformation campaigns but also a lot of things that could lead to violence and other actions as a relates to folks who honestly are using these to expand i mean you know this is where actually i think the trump is. has brought some of the left and right together on some issues and you know people don't realize the anti trust movement was because the big oil companies in the 1900 tens and twenties were using the law the trust law against the people and so the any trust movement was to say wait government picked winners and losers the trust system every one of the standard oil had a trust company of texas a trust and so they had to change that and i think in this case 230 and i'm with senator josh ollie's from my home state of missouri who said let's get rid of this

and make them prove that they're actually impartial because what we have is facebook and especially google and you tube we don't know what they're doing behind the scenes and again i'm for free speech we ought to be careful and i think you often come down on the say hey be careful be careful but when somebody gets so big in this case 3 or 4 tech companies that they're not only steering what we see but what we know this is a danger to the way we're living and frankly on the issue of say hate and all these kinds of speech i'm worried that there are influences facebook stepped back and said it was an os it was russia it was other people that's nonsense i mean it looks like it was facebook do allowing lots of things so we need to change the system the way we've been into 30 feels like an old system in a new world and we've got to come out of the better now the danger is do we end up with a regulator by government i mean that could be worse than anything but but we've got to do something different well that's the thing that i kind of look at this is a guy look at this and say you know look free speech is there the reason we have

the 1st amendment is not to protect popular speech it's actually to protect unpopular speech even no matter how ugly or or hateful it is and the thing with 230 years it doesn't say that these companies cannot be held liable for what how like if somebody says i'm going to go commit a crime and then they advertise that this person was going to go commit a crime they can still be held liable for that it doesn't give them like a clean slate it just says look if somebody says something stupid on facebook that's the premise of facebook's not responsible for yeah but i mean it goes be can't be for clear it may be you may be right. that there is a way to get to the tech companies but practically it's not happened it's they have so much power and you know they have power in a way that's excel rated even since the 2016 election in terms of the speed with which they're checking what we see and their reformatting i really believe this they're reformatting our brain the way we see things because what they know again if they're going to have that much power it is america needs to have systems that allow capitalism but we have to have a check on the liability in the transparency or we're going to be ruled by the tech

companies considering the sheer amount of individuals not only in america but across the globe who primarily get their news from facebook from the social media sources i think that it matters to have a certain level of integrity in the information that they're receiving and that exists beyond individuals who are in their own chat channels discussing things that may or may not be of popular interest but i do think there is something that needs to be said about winning it down and getting to facts the other thing that i think that needs to be considered and that baseball in terms of biden has taken a hit or is propagating an ad that literally have a lot of balls information and i think that he was not wrong in his push against that neither was the democratic party and they're not the only ones who are taking a stand a president trump to his to his credit he's been one of the greatest dismantle as a net neutrality that we've seen he was very happy with the supreme court decision there and he's standing by that i don't think that this is a partisan issue as much as it is one in which you see both sides of the aisle ironically coming together on some of it and that's maybe why i'm kind of on the

outside looking in going like i don't know as an independent suddenly the republican or democrat isn't the problem go in like you know i understand the arguments but at the same time this seems more like an argument look if we want to break up the monopolies of the type companies i'm all for that because that is truly monopoly google all that these are real monopolies that are narrowing the flow of information only through them and i'm all for breaking that up at the same time i do not want to see the free speech that is that is being kind of narrowed down already by corporate control and that. then suddenly decide to go falling under government and corporate control and then you know stamping out all free speech i mean not just because one side doesn't like it or another side doesn't like it because at the end of the who gets to decide right exists to decide what is a factual news story and what's not a factual news story not saying that look we all can we all know there's basic facts that i think we all should agree on but at the end of the day you can't let one political party or 2 political parties control the narrative of what is or

isn't a safe news story well and remember that day the danger is who chooses who's in control you know right now glenn greenwald in brazil is under arrest for basically being a journalist nice and in america we've now proven that the deep state can influence what we see and who's winners and losers including this own network they make this network register for something when everybody else is doing send us my point here is that 230 is broken what's next is a problem we've got to worry about it but 230 is broken and if we don't change to 30 and the certain set up we are literally our republic will be governed by the tech companies because they control what you see they control what you know and therefore they control what you do it's not just for buy and books on amazon it's for who gets to the polls who gets to the polls where and how the elections go i'm more interested and that relates to texas and how much we wind up meant to actually implement our system and how much that's going to continue happening over time i don't think that that's going to be something that chinese and the chinese are always trying people who is trying just like we are but that's not facebook is

controlling forget about that and he's trying to use books can i get the fear of foreign intervention but the same time i also sit back and say you know what the n.s.a. right now knows everything that i do on line and that actually bothers 1 me more of whether or not the chinese give the russians get it because to me the n.s.a. is not proven to be above board when it comes to how they've dealt with our freedoms and our of my own country has actually trampled on my freedoms and other people's freedoms a lot more than a foreign power and have at the same time though you do bring up a good point if facebook or one of these companies that controls ever. anybody's information if one of them gets hacked by anybody that's a lot of information to be held in just one area and it has everything that i have got how you think companies have contracts with the n.s.a. and the cia and everybody else i mean that's really good as they're rolled out of there so again i mean government can't be in charge of this you know to 30 i think is a detriment to how we're living and it's a worry i disagree with and i'm sorry that. there is a way to do this but i want to thank you so much for coming on today amidships

pleasure as always to have you look forward to having you on again very soon someone like you. all right finally today before we go obs some ground breaking but bad news for all of you target grade fans out there yes those little microscopic creatures that many of called the toughest organisms on the planet i mean they can survive the vacuum of space for crying out loud they may actually have a kryptonite after all researchers at the university of copenhagen have discovered that extreme heat for pong periods can actually damage and kill target grades while previously was discovered that the little water bears could survive being boiled at $330.00 degrees fahrenheit or $151.00 celsius for an hour it seems that extreme heat for extended periods of time like 48 hours is enough to kill the little fellows. that actually makes me think of something they can survive extreme cold in the vacuum of space but they can't handle fire. i think that this puts a target grades in the same category of xeno more. i'm not

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