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1st european could create. jobs and it's hard to imagine. i'm in favor of job creation in a company or any other place for the. one minute past 9 pm here in moscow this wednesday january 22nd welcome wherever you're tuning in from my names you know. our top story the psychology. of the cia's interrogation techniques post $911.00 is all apologetic about his role in any torture program. came during a military tribunal which is preparing a trial against the self-proclaimed mastermind for others of the attacks all of new

york and washington in 2001. whatever personal consequences i would live with i believe there was a genuine threat of an imminent attack i thought my moral obligation to protect american lives outweighed temporary discomforts of terrorists are get soaked today and do it again well just on this person james mitchell was contracted by a cia in the wake of 911 to consult and create an interrogation program for al qaeda suspects he even admitted personally using waterboarding torture technique that simulates drowning several prisoners later he never psychologist set up a company that provided support for the interrogations the cia's programming clue did no illegal course of messrs.

in the immediate aftermath of 911 we tortured some. lawyers for the detainees are now seeking for any statements made on dru interrogation to be disqualified from the trial groans of torture and you were activist sort of flown disbelieves the guantanamo bay court proceedings are deeply flawed. well none of this could possibly be a fair trial i mean how can you have a fair trial with people who've been held in total secrecy whose testimony is based on torture. the media isn't allowed in except for conditions so strict that they can't even have a picture of the court room all the testimony is restricted. none of this none of this liars and layers of secrecy is about providing any kind of justice or accountability or even of information it is going through

a theater in order to once again exert their power their power over people's lives and we should just note that there were juveniles who were a youth who were held for years i've kuantan them oh there were people who had nothing to do who were simply sold for bounty who were kuantan m o $780.00 prisoners and then the thousands who were held in secret rendition or around the world no accounting for them so this was a huge program and its ramifications were still feeling today of the 1st detainee in the mr mitchel water board who was a palestinian mob no one is who is a beta he's never been charged with a crime. but remains indefinitely. he was the 1st known cia prisoner to undergo an interrogation and lost an eye while being tortured during his time there so

a beta attempt to illustrate his experiences a warning you may find some of the following images distressing. as soon as they locked me up inside the box i tried my best to sit up but in vain for the box was too short i tried to take a curled position but to no avail for it was too tight the very strong pain made me scream unconsciously.

they kept pouring water and concentrating on my nose and my mouth until i really felt i was drowning and my chest was just about to explode from the lack of oxygen . and. the. long hours went by while i was standing in that position my hands were tight to the upper bars. it felt like an eternity to the point that i found myself falling asleep despite the water being thrown at me by the guard. there's absolutely no justification that can ever be. given or accepted for the horrendous and systematic torture that was used and it was used and authorized from the highest levels from the presidency the f.b.i.

the cia the top levels of the military the studies were known the conditions were known this isn't just one or 2 people mitchell and jennings this was an entire unit set up in order to use torture and to study how to apply the most excruciating forms of torture of pain of waterboarding of slamming of of packing into tight boxes of stress positions and on and on so how could you justify any of this and none of this torture provided any real information of course not that that that would even be an excuse it was done to hundreds of prisoners there were also hundreds of secret prisons secret rendition and terra geisha in centers all of this really has to be exposed and then an accounting demanded not only of those who designed the torture but of those who set up these torture camps.

a u.k. based watchdog has published the reports on the so-called new europe suggesting drones have become a tool for conducting assassinations with more and how the weapons have changed from targeting terrorists to no top military personnel here sorties esau. drones for many years now they form the controversial parts of the west's military arsenal across the world they used to gather intelligence spy on enemies and most and torricelli kill people for the apparent amusement of some. of. the risk. so how did we get to the point where assassination by drone is normal u.k. based watchdog drone wars investigated the phenomenon from target in members of

non-state groups class to stare ists to the assassination of top military personnel of a state that u.s. is not at war we have made in terms of strategy and legality unfortunately however it's also an additive all the approach of government to any scrutiny in such cases has been to give away as little information as possible like in the killing of terrorist suspects in syria between 201520185 the u.k. government the focus was often placed on the individual either the legality of particular strike or the crimes in the tour of an individual the government appeared to for a policy if it was a secrecy giving away some information by trail or providing any substantial common and lead into what was described as dissatisfied engagement in parliamentary scrutiny finally the lack of ethical debate was glaringly obvious the media in turn according to drone was failed to scrutinise the killings playing into the government's spin if anything the media coverage contained carefully controlled

government messaging mohammed and was he was killed in a drone strike here it was or was as a result of persistent surveillance a british woman who became a prominent recruiter for so-called islamic state has reportedly been killed in a drone strike so it also killed her 12 year old son which she had previously used as a human shield so the blueprint is clear use drones to kill people in war zones that . span day used to kill who you want and then don't even try to justify it instead bandy about claims that the victim was about so launch a terror attack with no evidence and paint the mount to be an extremists precisely what the white house did in the most recent case we had specific emanation information on an imminent threat and those threats trim included attacks are in the u.s. embassies yes let is your definition of the and then it this is this was going to have it it can reveal that i believe it would have been for embassies the present didn't say with there was a tangible he didn't cite

a specific piece of evidence what he says he probably he believe are you saying that a by invent one i didn't see one with regard to for embassies the use of drones on terror suspects became the norm now the assassination of general calls them so they money is being sold to the public using the same tropes which invites the question what else will be deemed as paul for the course next east alley artsy london well on this story former u.k. army officer charles shewbread spoke to the program he believes the u.s. has no legal basis for many of its killings while a situation has been coming for some time i think with the show we said the definition of a terrorist has been widened for the expediency. of those that actually are seeking to target individuals but we've really reached a situation i think when you've got such a senior official and it's difficult to imagine this an official most senior and somebody was a son in respect of iran that you've now got

a situation where if if that was to be any precedent he's killing that really any official any government minister of a state which the u.s. doesn't like can be targeted of course there's no legal basis for that which is why of course you've seen the backtracking in terms of the claim and initially said by term that he posed some kind of imminent threat and of course a soon as you've opened up that box of allowing talk tonight that's very difficult to put that genie back in a bottle to use another metaphor for example it's very difficult now for the u.s. to claim if one of its officials government ministers are targeted in a similar way perhaps not by a drone but by a more traditional terrorist attack that somehow that was illegal and itself constitutes an act of terrorism when of course the u.s. has now set a precedent for this kind of action. giving the program all know norway's coalition government has collapsed after it agreed to bring home a woman charged with supporting terrorist groups in syria the move infuriated the

right wing progress party which polled its support for the coalition in response. slocum in manhattan i think there was the shoe of the woman who was an ice will tear or suspect were the 3 other parties cave dan bringing home both mother and child we have always been willing to bring home innocent children who will not compromise with people who have jointure are going to and are actively working to tear down all of the values norway is built on that was done last. well the repatriated woman is or norwegian citizen who went to syria in 23 dean being with her 2 children in the kurdish controlled al hole refugee camp in syria last week oslo decided to allow her to return with her children she was arrested on arrival on suspicion of being a nice old member something she denies. well that's far from being the 1st case of its kind in europe back in november germany allowed a woman suspected of being

a muslim member to return with her 3 children arland did similar while finland has agreed to examine cases individually we put the issue up for debate with journalist lucre of a former u.k. immigration advisor best. well 1st of all you've got to remember this is around a child who's ill and we should not weaponize children the child has had no control over what its mother did or whom she married or anything of that nature don't forget the images of these 4 year olds 4 years old kid 2 had to kill in front of his parents for the camera one of the prison a suffices so these kids from $1012.00 or under 10 are extremely anxious to mothers are awfully dangerous people who go off and commit offenses abroad whether that spy joining a an organization that is inherently against the government of the day or anything

of that nature then their proper place is to be prosecuted back in their country of origin these people left western europe they should be judged where they committed crimes even if they deserve the death penalty following the local laws like in iraq that is totally unrealistic of reality you going to have a proper trial how are you going to have a fair trial in a war torn country where sectarianism is right it's just nonsense but in most cases it's not the case legally if they are norwegian citizens norway cannot prevent them from actually coming back to norway the only way they can do that is by removing the norwegian citizenship and as a signatory to the state that is what it should do invention it would it would mean well no i'm sorry they can't do that because they're signatory to the statelessness convention if the criminal is only one nationality of he or she should be judged

in the country of the nationality but most of the most of these criminals that were in syria for isis they have a double nationality so most of the countries france belgium and others that the lands could easily suppress the piano. no exam that can be judged where they are it's no good complaining that norwegian judicial system is a bit lenient on the sentencing on all that's got nothing to do with some whether somebody has committed a criminal offense or not that's all to do with domestic policy in norway we live in democracies so that the problem is that populism is regarded as at the seas these people are being accused of being fascists etc by the left and so there is a big problem of recognition for what the people want the un the man doing a probe into who hacked the phone of the world's richest man there's one name in the frame at the moment we'll tell you who it is after the break.

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minutes into the program welcome back human rights experts for the u.n. are urging for an investigation into the hocking of the mobile phone of the world's richest man jeff bezos there are concerns about allegations the saudi crown prince was possibly involved in the data breach which was caused by an encrypted message sent to the billionaire this on phone or. the alleged hacking of mr bezos is food m those of others demands immediate investigation by the u.s. and other relevant authorities including investigation of the continuous munty

a direct and personal involvement of the crown prince in efforts to target perceived. let's get more on this with ortiz kill them up and kill the saudi crown prince keep getting his name linked to covert operations tell us more about this latest incident. well it appears according to the information that is being presented that the phone of jeff bezos was hacked via the messenger application known as whatsapp that is the method through which his phone was hacked now it is important to note that not only is jeff bezos a wealthy billionaire in the united states he's also the owner of the washington post and that's the newspaper that employed jamal khashoggi so this is what the washington post seems to have uncovered about the hacking of his phone. the information we have received suggests the possible involvement of the crown prince in surveillance of mr bezos in an effort to influence if not sign it's the

washington post reporting in saudi arabia these allegations are run of and as well to on going evaluation of claims about the crown prince's involvement in the 2900 mudda of saudi and washington post journalist. now we remember what happened to jamal khashoggi in october of 28 team jamal khashoggi was visiting the saudi embassy in istanbul and he went into the saudi embassy and never came back he was dismembered now at this point saudi arabia declares that this was simply a rogue operation there been 5 individuals who've been sentenced to death for the killing of washington post journalist jamal khashoggi however there have been 3 top officials who were cleared for any wrongdoing in the killing now at this point the united nations is demanding further investigation into the kingdom of saudi arabia hacking the phone of jeff bezos this is what has been said and this is has been the

response. i don't like stopping massive amounts of money that's being poured into our country spending $110000000000.00 on military equipment and things that are created like. others for this country we have identified at least some of the individuals responsible including those in the intelligence services the royal court the foreign ministry and other saudi ministries who we suspect to have been involved in mr to show you is death. now the relationship between saudi arabia and the us government is rather long standing lots of oil and weapons being sold and exchanged furthermore it's important to note that the trumpet administration has a particularly strong relationship with saudi arabia the 1st overseas trip of u.s. president donald trump was to the middle east to visit saudi arabia so at this point one wonders what will happen next the killing of jamal khashoggi certainly sparked outrage not only around the world but with the in the united states however

now this new revelation about the hacking of jeff bezos phone is also sparking some new outrage and reopening some of the old wounds and outrage from the case of the killing of jamal khashoggi it's important to note however saudi arabia is 1st certainly not the 1st country to have hacked into the data of someone in a foreign country so outrage continues we'll see what happens next. thanks for bringing us up to date on that our to open in new york. german chancellor angela merkel is calling on the world to include china in the pursuit of common goals not return to cold war era exclusion. of course we also have to build up fairness of course we have to practice multilateralism so the rules apply to everyone but i believe for us not to fall into new bipolarity but rather that we try was the results of experience we have to include

a country like china multilateralism and treated at least equally. you know those remarks come of course as the u.s. and china manage to reach a truce in their trade war for not german manufacturers suffered cholesterol damage from tensions between washington and beijing that mostly hit its car industry another flashpoint was chinese tech giant while away the u.s. is continuing to pressure the european union to blown weiwei 5 g. equipment or fears it could spy for beijing and steal intellectual properties the company denies all accusations in germany and the question of 5 g. has long been debated by lawmakers with beijing promising a backlash if huawei is bombed in order to appease washington. if germany will to make use of that lead to the exclusion from the german market it'll be consequences the chinese government will not stand by. well we've been getting insight into all of this here is some of what's been said to us. for germany and

for paying its independence to maintain its own judgment on major issues in the world rather than purely passively just of farnell the leadership of another major country makes a lot of sense china after all is a permanent member of the security council of the united nations and it is the 2nd largest economy in the world and to marginalize china will not succeed on the one hand and also will bring a lot of economic it is advantage to whichever country which tries to push china down on the ground the e.u. in general is one of the poles down in a global order and china doubtless needs another one so were there would be more collaboration getting done but been a continuous agenda and also because of the bad shape is the means dong very soon and there be a new suspects so maybe it is a plan to install

a new policy to create a new consensus among a country and for china of course right now is for its own critical and for the period of a sign us trade war on china's government always will engage the european countries as a remote island to kind of kind of balance. ok here's a story that's starting to get quite a bit of attention automotive electrical energy giant tesla has the fight at the residence of a ton near the german capital or plans to create its 1st european gigafactory there dozens of demonstrators have been denouncing possible environmental damage with plans to cut down 300 hectares of forest for their factory but they were met by counter protesters who appeared to be enthusiastic over the promise of thousands of jobs. helmeted many people are absolutely not aware of those decisions great fallout our water management agency has already admitted that there is no guarantee

the locals will be supply. with enough water after the launch of the factory they have to think about it because they've got not sure whether it's good or not i'm worried about the environment being advanced there will be new jobs and new transpired it's hard to imagine anything better that's this new it's a good opportunity for our region but electric cause once over everything and i manufacture causes environmental damage as examinee are but i'm in favor of job creation and special as a company but wasn't there any other place for this factory and. you know it julian the young graduates haven't been able to find work that fits their skill was hearing growing high though so a lot of them had to move to other cities and i hope this project will provide a boost for the whole region the equivalent of bank of course we're concerned about

it on the one hand we're glad that investors are interested in brandenburg on the other hand we're talking about serious interviewer ince natural processes we should be carefully considered we should do everything to me to get damage based on the deforestation area the implications will be very grave we're talking about total deforestation and the extinction of all the animal and plant species which once inhabited this rude. our i thought as our midweek news roundup looks for now the teams are busy putting together all era latest updates hope you'll join me when i bring them to you and

just over 30 minutes see that. seems like 2016 all over again bernie sanders is popular and doing well in the polls and the democratic establishment along with the donor class are nervous they're centrist politics is fraying now throw in identity politics the problem for bernie this time around apparently is that he's not inclusive enough is a democratic primary being rigged again.

this is boom bust broadcasting around the world and covering all angles of business and the impact on you i've been sworn in and i'm french born washington here's what we have coming up when i took office 3 years ago america's economy was in a rather dismal state president donald trump of the world economic forum and tout the power of the american economy we'll dissect his comments in davos plus polling is looking for billions in loans to keep afloat as 737 max crisis continues we'll tell you what that means for boeing's largest competitor and self korea is considering changing the way it classifies cryptocurrency for tax purposes and it could be a very big deal a lot happening on this very busy day so let's get started. and we begin in davos at the world economic forum where president trump is addressing world leaders and

as you would expect he is talking up the u.s. economy. when i spoke at this. florham 2 years ago i told you that we had to launched to great american come back today i'm proud to to claire that the united states is in the midst of an economic boom the likes of which the world has never seen before we've regained their stride rediscovered our spirit in reawaken d. powerful machinery of american enterprise america's thriving america is flourishing in yes america is winning again like never before well in his address at the deb you e.f. president trump talk about that successive complaining phase one of the u.s. china trade deal about the end of nafta and the signing of the u.s. him ca and he also talked about the completion of a new trade deal with japan but all in all the president urged other leaders to reduce their own you