but back in august yes back in august the trump. for the trumpet met the times reports that the trump administration broadened the criteria to include non-cash benefits providing for basic needs such as housing your food used in any 12 months in a 36 month period as well as other bureaucratic jobs of poor immigrants like you use 2 kinds of the benefits in a single month that month would now count as 2 months yes that kind of mouth because hey it's not like this country was built on the backs of poor immigrants slaves and servants always yes actually it really was so today let's break down the hypocrisy and cock cassidy behind the supreme court's new ruling on us immigration as we start watching the hawks. on a cd. player so you'd like to see that this is joyce. grace suggests least systemic deception. but she's.

still. on the watching dogs. joining me to discuss the supreme court's decision on the public schools is democratic strategist political democratic strategist and political analyst of research cross thank you so much thank you for having me all right i'm usually what i want to start off with this obviously you know that i am not a fan of this played by my little tirade at the beginning being very very i just bothers me deep down the mark or what this is one of the political and societal implications of the supreme court's decision this week will the supreme court you know issues the law of the land they think that what is showcased here for immigrant support groups and those who are fighting for basic human rights of immigrants is that they can't count the supreme court to protect them what we're seeing here is an extension of an administration that has shown time and time again that they are pushing. poverty regulations. not only for immigrants but also for

american citizens we know that the trump administration has back a lot of the obama era legislation specifically around housing affordability and housing access for impoverished individuals we've seen him take food out of the mouths of those who cannot afford to feed themselves by reductions in food stamps and all of this on the backs of him consistently saying how strong our economy is and how well it's doing under his administration so i do think that when it comes to a lot of this anti immigrant sentiment what he is also saying is that he is anti those who are actually here with green cards this is an entirely different type of immigration debate than what we've seen with those who he is victimize who are crossing our border what democrats have said all along was that if he was able to get away with that if he was able to continue demonizing these people talking about you know calling them rapists talking about building a wall that he was going to expand this to the immigrant population writ large and i think the democrats were right in that fear what this legislation has shown us and what the supreme court has shown us in this decision is that the criminalization of poverty is extending far beyond just the united states citizens

now we're doing it for those who are legal green card holders and we're putting people we're putting people at risk for extreme poverty but we're also turning our backs on those who probably need help the most but what about what about always love that argument or your target of that argument is over we don't we don't you know we don't want people who come here and way our system down are we only want the smart immigrants we only want the best immigrants we don't want those folks who you know are castoffs from other societies what do we do when president trump in the trump administration says that translates to one thing it means that you don't want more black and brown people he doesn't want poor black and brown people who were born and raised in this country much less those coming from someplace else and i think that he is showcasing that on a daily basis this is an administration that is going out of its way to exhibit cruelty in cruelty and policy and literally criminalizing poverty and we're seeing it on a day to day basis it hurts me to the core of the supreme court is backing him up on this. 5 to 4 decision to sell is close for what the supreme court is made up of

you can see the vote for right now on our screen and here is the votes against. where are democrats on this and are we going to actually see pushback against this broadening of a public charge rules in congress because as though it went to the supreme court made vision a ruling that doesn't mean that congress is hands are tied they can actually create a new law or create a new you know avenue for this to get relaxed and allow these people back into our country because at the end of the day they should be if you can get a green card there's no reason if you're worried about the system and it's not a small percentage of you know most of the american population doesn't recognize it in this larger context is that the majority of people who qualify for food stamps to qualify for emergency funds of qualify for these things actually don't use them so we have it strong reserves in terms of helping those who are in poverty that we're not actually using at all but moreover i think that you're right in pushing this on congress because congress can do something now i have a lot. a lot of anger when it comes to things getting done in the senate right now

the senate is obviously republican led and they are you know backing up on everything so i don't think that it's going to go very far there but i do think that for democrats in the house or the house that is that has passed hundreds of bills bar that are you know in the graveyard of the senate right now i think that this is one of their chances to again showcase that they can work through impeachment and get legislation done at the same time i want to ask you this question very serious when i ask you because you know i feel like this is one of those things that immigration there's a little bit of fight for it there's a lot of word service to it but you don't see people really following through on it so have we have we essentially forgotten. the heritage of immigration in this country and is it time to take the plaque off the statue of liberty given given the direction that we're going because i mean look if if if we're only going to accept in the best of the brightest that we can accept in the poor and old masses anymore that which is basically the essence of what the quote unquote american dream was for at least part of the population. so i love that question and my issue is in the

rhetoric around this administration and what it means to be the best and brightest and a good immigrant when i when i hear that it automatically gives me reason for pause as someone who grew up in a single parent household with an incarcerated parent who was raised on food stamps and welfare he would not have appreciated me being american citizen in this country so when i hear those same things placed on poor immigrant that is an issue for me because a lot of our greatest innovators come from that background a lot of our greatest innovators a lot of our designers a lot of people who've gone on to create things that we use every day are not people who under his current laws would be people who even deserve to be here and who is he to decide whether or not somebody birthright economic condition is the reason for them to be an american citizen or be able to pursue equality an opportunity over the whole idea of the country when people were coming here was still is to come here for a better opportunity you come here from no opportunity to gain opportunity that's the idea and there's nothing wrong in my mind with offering people help along the

way i'm tired of the rhetoric that we always hear that oh you know anybody on food stamps is draining our system anybody you know getting help from the government whether through health care or whatever may be all there are a drain on the system they're our brothers and sisters in our neighbors at the end of the day there's no reason whatsoever that we should be casting people aside because they don't have enough money to live absolutely and what trump is setting up and what the supreme court helped him do with that with that decision was to create or further develop a caste system in this country and i think that as an american it is very disappointing to watch but also as someone who comes from and you said it very strongly in your opening a background of people who built this country not only did not get the credit card upon that but has consistently been thrown under can by you know administration after administration it's very depressing to me to see that we have a country that is going in that direction that we have an administration that honestly does not care about the poor we have an administration that is fine turning the. born into poverty into a criminal that's a problem it is

a big problem we should cross thank you so much for coming on discussing the problem with us today always a pleasure absolutely. and now we go to yet another new wrinkle in the ongoing saga of our friendly neighborhood pedophile sex trafficker to the stars of politics and film geoffrey up stede yes on this episode of the up sting chronicles britain's prince andrew is back on the front burner over his relationship with epstein as u.s. federal prosecutors recently announced the andrew has not exactly been cooperating with them on their upstream probe naturally the prince disagrees with their ascertain his cooperation are to america's turn to be chavez as the story. prince andrew is allegedly angry and the wilderness claims that he is not cooperating with investigators saying that he has not been approached to speak about the case at all but new york state attorney jeffrey berman says otherwise the southern district of new york and the f.b.i. have contacted prince andrew's attorneys and requested to interview present prince

andrew and today prince prince andrew has provided 0 cooperation buckingham palace has refused to comment regarding these allegations against prince andrew meantime gloria already who is representing one of geoffrey epstein's accusers says that she has also personally reached out to prince andrew in a letter asking him to provide information into the epstein sex trafficking investigation but he has not responded to her either last month. on or about well december 10th i sent a letter 1st to the lawyers for prince andrew urging prince andrew to. to agree to be interviewed by the f.b.i. . about what he would know about. jeffrey epstein and or anyone. in mr epstein circle she needs. to provide relevant

information. most people if they know that a crime has been committed. or most likely was committed and they have relevant information. as i've said whether they're prince or a proper they should provide it however legal experts say prince andrew does not have to speak to investigators because he has no legal duty to do so but not a total surprise that prince andrew has not apparently come cooperated with the the abyssinian inquiry. prince andrew will have been told by his lawyers it may appear morally indefensible but in truth any competent lawyer is going to tell him whether he was witness or indeed a defendant that he has no will begin to give evidence if he doesn't wish to and he has a right to silence so do not cooperating is very much an option for him and indeed if it was i'm tempted to make him cooperate he's entitled to state immunity because

he's a prince of this country according to legal experts u.s. prosecutors will not be able to extradite prince andrew to the u.s. and he is entitled to state immunity as a prince from britain even though he has stepped back from his public duties following the public attention he was receiving for his friendship with epstein but while u.s. authorities won't be able to do anything legally gloria already has said that she plans to serve the prince when he returns to the united states meantime the bureau of prisons is holding off on transferring the warden who was in charge of the jail facility where epstein was found dead the warden was expected to step into a leadership role at a low security prison in new jersey however the new sparked controversy leaving many wondering why the warden would be getting an apparent promotion when there are still several investigations that are ongoing into epstein's death and the circumstances surrounding it at the jail facility the agency now says that it will defer the transfer until the internal investigation is complete reporting in new york treated each other. our team all right as we go to break card watchers do not

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what we're going to talk about here is the debt because planet earth has a. fear of approximately 3 to 4 times global g.d.p. which i think is between like 80 trillion so there is like you know almost 400 trillion now in debt it's the debt us here and it's has a profound impact on the 21st century. dream agreed to pretty. old must remember that it was most of the family were employed. there wasn't it was bed much worse objectively. but there was an expectation of the things were going to get better. there was

a real sense of hope. there isn't today today's america was shaped by the 10 principles of concentration of wealth and power. reduced democracy attacks. engineer elections manufacture consent and other principles according to. one set of rules for the rich. that's what happens when you put her into the. will is dedicated to increasing virtue of just as you'd expect one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization of america.

welcome back everyone you know from our treatment of japanese americans during world war 2. hand to the germans weren't the only ones putting folks in the concentration camp my friends to the treatment of muslim americans following 911 invasive surveillance and harassment by law enforcement agencies yes the united states has a very long and very ugly history when it comes to the treatment of immigrants and us citizens who happen to share our heritage with whomever the us government has declared an enemy and now it appears that those very sins of our past continue to follow us into our future in recent weeks since the us assassination of top iranian military leader qassim sola monny it is now coming to light the u.s. authorities have subjected ethnic iranians some of them american citizens to terrifying and confusing or deals at the border this includes many iranian students

here on legitimate visas like northeastern universities economic student mohamed shabab doctored up da conny who was held over 24 hours without access to a lawyer or as family and was then deported despite a writ of habeas corpus by a bedroll judge. here's just one story of many many many more and joining us now to shed some light on those stories as well as the legal implications of these actions is immigration attorney eleanor thank you so much for always coming on and illustrating this for us i want to ask you 1st can you elaborate a little more on what is happening to both u.s. citizens of iranian descent and the rain ians here on legitimate uses or just coming into the country as they attempt to both enter and exit the united states' rights so i don't think the 1st is not something new you know right so it's an extension of the travel ban and let's not pretend it's about countries it's about religion so it's muslims mostly right and so with reason activities what has

happened is the activity has caused a heightened alert among people so you see hiding to vittie so you see a group of people who are coming over to canada who were apparently rejected and returned and then you see the government step in and say well this was an official policy so what is sort of shows is that a lot of c.b.p. officers or other officers are acting on their own without official saying these individuals have these concerns about you right which is not the way national security works it's not a group of people you should have the intelligence to know it's a certain sector of individuals and there are reports from different airports that when people are coming back they're being detained for recently in dallas for 7 hours of people coming and an immigration attorney had to go and actually pick up these individuals the problem is when you're coming in you don't really have a way to call someone right and so as an immigration attorney i would tell my clients now is not the time to travel right you can't take that risk every time you leave the united states you have a heidelberg coming back in not to even say we're processing is going on when you're in the interior that student who was at school at northeastern had been at

school for a while right a known entity a qualified individual so was he a threat all the time he was here before and you didn't care or was that he had a new threat because he was returning before the government is that it is this family ties well he had the same family ties before he left the 1st time and came after the 2nd time it needs more explanation yeah exactly when he had it was a little. there's no reason you should there is no reason you should be holding someone 24 hours without access to any kind of not going to turn a classmate a university representative that it's ridiculous and that's one of things too i want to ask about is like you know how do they get away with that when you even had a judge issue a hey b.s. corporate saying that ok then bring him before me so we can actually get this settled but then they shipped him off i guess like they did or him before the actual judgment of the other ok but so that was sort of a trip so so the government doesn't do anything fast until it wants to do so wants to that's 1st because they were holding for 24 hours they could have actually held for the judge the judge actually wrote a very scathing sort of review review to them in addition no one should ever be

detained that long without having access to some attorney or being returned to their home country 7 hours is a long time 24 hours is understandable but you also earlier that this is kind of falling on the backs of the individual customs and border patrol officers you know government that's what the government said that's what they're saying right well where do they get that kind of power and do they have that actual power they actually do have that power and it flows from national security which is the same that you see at every port of entry where an individual officer is able to have that discretion as you talked about in your 1st segment that's the same thing goes to the public charge there's not going to be a policy of an individual office is going to make it is that a decision which is probably to be non-reviewable if it's made outside the united states in which case most won't be able to overcome it wow that's a lot of power for an individual at that level that who might have biases against the person of religion or may have had something happen to their family in the region or heard something on the news that's not the way we operate the more. it's breaking my heart i now want to ask you because this is one of the most important questions is there's a lot of people who will sit at home and say ok i'm not

a rainy and i don't have ties to iran i'm not coming from iran i'm a u.s. citizen why is this so why should they care about what's happening to these people at the border whether they're running to whoever else but why should they care about what's happening in the say she care about what's happening the border because it's not about them it's about us. it's about our constitution our principles and how we treat individuals right we don't group individuals and say everybody is guilty in classes that's just not our jurisprudence system that's not the way we came about being and we also don't have this big fear we're supposed to have this big bat and this intelligence system is able to actually get at the specific problem not some wide net we're not afraid of everyone that's when the election so really that's the problem having this heightened fear that when everyone's a threat then everything's a security threat and when you let everything be a security threat you let the government in and then it becomes that sort of big brother that i want to check your e-mail i want to check your license i need to rely d. and then you sort of feel like you give away all those liberties when in fact for years you never had that in the 1st place and even when you give away those liberties things like september 11th still happen these are private happens and you

still have these additional issues that still occur across across the united states in addition to iranians that are here who are now americans is the concept of well your parents naturalized our winner you are american is something that's very new in the top administration julie when someone naturalized they got the passport that was it we celebrate you your u.s. citizen it's not your u.s. citizen asterisk but because if that's the case and everybody has an asterisk but yeah right exactly exactly and that's it really strikes me that really just eats away at me when i see things like this happening again because to me this is the very fabric of what the country supposed to be is as i said earlier in the show people can come here all types of people from all walks of life from all religions or all historical backroads can come here and hopefully find a way to make a better life that's the idea that always been practiced throughout our history of course not right but we have to try to change are moving into the future and i want to ask what i know that there's a lot of groups out there fighting for there's a lot of immigration attorneys out there trying to say what are what can be done to help these people when they actually get stopped at the border or with or when they're being held how can people stop so the reason i was there bill in congress

that sort of going to the house that has no foot perhaps to make it through the senate there's no ban act which will sort of help sort of take all this is a combination out of immigration laws in addition that people should just be smarter right because there's 2 things that happen when things countries don't naturally hate you right understand what the foreign policy is they create these conditions in the world it make. people hate us bombs that were dropped think about serbia think about all these different places where things happened that might not have been the most appropriate thing to the united states under that circumstance even in latin america so people are just fleeing here coming here for whatever reason and then understand what the american principles are that if someone shows up for the most part give them the benefit of the doubt if you screen them and let it prove otherwise otherwise you might be making that person into something that they're not great point very great point i want to do we touched on earlier in the show the kind of public charge rules you know where we're as an immigration attorney and looking at this where does the supreme court's decision fall i mean. it's also part of the death yeah we've never seen anything like this in the before

in our history and i think for the common american this is what kept and frank from coming to the united states and that was denied numerous times based on this very same kind of concept of a public charge it is that need it it takes being a percentage of the immigrant class from affecting 3 percent to a back to 50 percent it makes 200000 young couples who are married in the states meaning i'm a young american i find a foreign national i want to marry it makes it an issue for my application now to sort of say to be a public charge issue right it makes another level of scrutiny the government's always talking about the backlog sort of invites a different level of scrutiny to make the backlog even longer for individuals more reason to deny so what it does is it tells the world we don't want you here when in fact this administration says oh we have a great economy we have all these jobs who's going to these jobs right it's a proven fact that we don't have enough americans there's a class of us moving out the workforce immigration is important to feel that and you can't do that overnight so which way is it either we're going to have these jobs or we're going to have good labor or we're going to shut down and go into an existing as you mentioned earlier what you're but advise and people you've been

advising people truthfully about to come right now well it depending on the circumstance that you have to travel if you live here and you have these sort of issues don't travel right and if your ex here you can apply but more than likely you know 80 percent of people are getting visas in the classes that the reason that it passed the supreme court right the travel ban didn't just pass it was a travel ban 3.0 it's sort of passed. and it's supposed to have an exception for waivers and only 6 percent of those waivers are being passed through so what does that really say please don't come so what that does how does that impact schools all of those iranians that are going to those schools pay full freight for their tuition that hurts the tuition that hurts the school so therefore that makes the student loans those individuals americans who can't maybe afford to pay a higher amount right so those people are looking else places in the world to sort of work and carry out when you look at doctors a lot of doctors are indian nationals and these are a national places where americans won't be right there in alabama they're deep down in the south sort of taking care of americans and you're basically saying to them we don't want you here because of your national security because you're taking care

of our health care you're taking care of my life it's amazing seeing how deep the web goes when you just how far the ripples in the water go when you when you start messing with the system like the way the it's happening right now i don't want to thank you for always coming on and lumen aiding our audience to what's truly going on in this world when it comes to immigration thank you so much for having. all right before we go tonight let us extend a happiest of birthday's to antarctica yes on january 27th the great southern continent of antarctica celebrated the 200th birthday of its discovery which took place back in 1820 discovered. by a russian expedition to antarctica is actually the only continent on earth to quite literally been discovered due to the fact that there was never a native population as we were living on it so it actually was discovered considered to be the brightest windiest dry as thai. the coldest night on earth lovely place. in eastern ice sheets when you combine old 90 percent

of the world's ice that's enough to raise global sea levels by 260 meters so everyone please let's try to be nice to antarctica and keep it the peaceful place of science and study that it has been since the antarctic treaty 19. if they die and be nice down the road all right everybody that is our show for you today remember everyone in this world were not told the world loved enough so i tell you all i love you i am tyrrel been through a keep on watching those hawks never great bend like everybody please. please please. feel. a little. little. sleepy. floor.

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