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that's one of their conditions for any sort of an agreement so i think you read the small print of what other countries are saying that's just it is far from done yet . be a have not the dog not paid up not to cross and there's a long way to go before december of this year before we see what the the final or call of any sort of a people may be they there's a lot of double dealing that could be done that and do i trust their. press at minister and perhaps a goodish government to deliver i'm sure that our freshly sector of the technology and our r.v. food sector which is so vital for not are in this agreement i have to say that up a question mark in my mind of a public well i jim is a 11 final question looking at what you're saying and still want to hates the deal but you've also got to give your consent in 4 years time as well haven't you had it yes we tell you and and the concern that we harbor perhaps maybe isn't exactly united with that threat is potentially and for your state has been. i believe in
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force the away from the e.u. straight away from the u.k. and fears the rest of us are towards the e.u. and on the 4 years' time and 6 years table 10 years tate we will be potentially a very different from what we are or what we were before 11 o'clock tonight came shot of the d.p. many thanks for joining us this evening thank you thanks to the earth it well over on the continent the e.u. has been saying it's good byes be for the trade deal talks begin in our europe correspondent peter one of the joins us with all the latest live so. bring us up to date with what's been going on be on the channel. yes it hasn't been marked with the types of celebration we've seen in london or the type of commiseration you see in other parts of the u.k. as well as in the british capital as well but what we have seen is the british flag being taken down in brussels from the e.u. institutions from the the commission presidency the parliament on the council
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building as well we've also seen the european flag being taken down from british offices in brussels as well we also saw emi piece from the briggs party well being piped out of brussels as they were leaving heading back to london many of them as we've already seen have been at the the big party in parliament square right now we've also in the last few minutes though heard some reaction from the european institutions the high representative for foreign affairs your set boyle who is basically the e.u. foreign minister he's being the 1st one to really come out and say post this 11 o'clock u.k. time deadline of course it is midnight dead it was a midnight deadline here on mainland europe. to say that the u.k. will remain a very close partner of the e.u. both on a regional and global scale that's really emphasizing what we heard from the e.u.
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commission president on the line early on friday where she said that she hoped for a close and more productive relationship post breaks it between the u.k. in the e.u. but said that any deal that the u.k. got couldn't be as good as membership. you know very well as the sun rises tomorrow and you chapter for our union of 27 will start and with it comes a once in a generation opportunity to ensure that europe leads the way on these 2 twin ecological and digital transformations indeed tomorrow almost half a century of the united kingdom's membership in the european union is over we want to have the best possible relationship with the united kingdom but it will
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never be as good as membership one of the key areas the. negotiations going to move on to as they look towards this trade deal is going to be the u.k.'s future relationship with ireland in particular that british border on the island of ireland well leo varadkar the irish to shock did have something to say about this about brags about the u.k. leaving the e.u. on friday he said that he wished the united kingdom well on its journey alone but did say that there was always a seat back at the table if it didn't work out for them so tonight when the clock strikes 11 pm united kingdom will leave the european union we'll say goodbye to an old friend embarking on adventure their own tryst with destiny. we do hope it works out for them but if it does not there will always be a seat for the united kingdom at the european table well it's taken us 3 and
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a half years to get to the situation of brigs it happening at times well both sides of pretty much lumber stood one another it has got a bit spicy. i've been wondering what that special place. in the head looks like for those who promoted but shift without even a sketch of a plan how to cover 8 safely. she thought that i did criticize show by saying yes something nice. to british position the most number. i did not. refer to her book to the overall state of the inwards you remind me more and more i don't know if you know him field marshal in back at. you know field marshal hayden record now also sitting
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in the 1st world war in his office in a log book and you're all sitting here in stroudsburg where your people are marching to the rain. according to. the hell is still empty a moment it means the to the face. of the field to be because nobody. did not even contesting the lights but was drums and all those who are supporting the rock will never miss those who scream and yell. then and now and now thanks god without you we have construction in our future. so that you. don't go to have. when you watch that it has been rough at times hasn't it did you call me nebulous i
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think it's my favorite war out of those but as we well as the united kingdom it leaves the european union we enter now into this transition period of course all of those lovely trade talks that are set to start on the 3rd of march so it's not done with yet certainly isn't peter all of a thank you very much indeed for that live update they don't have i mean this is something you've campaigned for for a long time we're now in that transition period of an underlying are saying that it's all about the best possible relationship isn't it but it is now about that transition period in going forward how do you see things happening in terms of the trade deals. the pressure is going to be on the you i believe to give way. what they feared right from the outset going back to 2016 and just after the referendum post referendum negotiations kick started they did not want the u.k. to start off with a trade deal position if you remember they fought fiercely to stop that happening
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because what they knew they couldn't do was hold 27 member states together on a unified basis and i go back to my point about macro even today all of a sudden saying you know i'm going to be fighting for france you know he's not on barney a hymn sheet here he's not using the language of this is 27 member states this is the european union and wanting a trade deal with the u.k. he's actually saying this is france are going to be pushing for france french interest etc etc so i think it's going to be i see that the opinion is going to give a bit of ground. they are cannot defend any delay by saying we're not prepared and you know 12 months is insufficient they have 3 and a half years they've had they've known that this was going to happen and they've been planning for this they knew that if they could score and not allow it to start off the brakes in negotiations that they would have a wind position so they've got their plan they've just got to make sure they keep
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27 member states on his own sheet right norman you are very depressed about what's happened what seti 8 minutes ago traded apart the future relationship there we here we want the best relationship possible but it won't be the same as membership how do you see our relationship with the e.u. in the fuel have been chewed up for the last 30 minutes. i mean the a huge producer be held together remarkably well i think during the last 3 and a half years and the last of you want to do i think is true is to show that britain has won because of the encourage others to follow suit so they're going to drive a very hard bargain with the growing trying to do their liam fox not very long into the free trade agreement that we reach with the e.u. will be the easiest. story you know hootie phoolan michael gove's said we hold all the cards you know what cards to the 3 of spades before this is this is done since this is really very very tough stuff and the e.u. cannot afford to give way on things like fishing they really count for their own domestic reasons so we're going to very tough to go through each position i hope we
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have a very good agreement let's hope we have very friendly relations where we are nobody want to do thing else but i think it would be very very tough and no one thank you for joining us here in the sofa because in fact you are sorely missed down on the kent coast because remain as they stood at the base of the kent landmark in solidarity the like this of divers the as the heartfelt message was projected upon it and we see it now on the big screen in the words we still love you it would be across the chalk face appearing among a host of different friendly terms in various european languages as despite the ramona is moaning there we have a nice gesture. well i think we need to try to quite seriously bring the temperature down there's been a lot of a lot more pleasant and vitriol all of us really a half years quite a deficit early there was a legitimate positions on both sides that should be respected. some of us haven't given up on the idea of trying to make sure we're close to the european union others think we should take
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a different course they're responsible positions but what we do need to do is to is to resort to vitriol and unpleasant this because boy where that leads to frankly is a diminished to politics joining in this country and i think you know that we've heard pleas from a lot of government ministers this week saying exactly that you know being much more conciliatory much more accommodating and asking for that from people is what i think we should have it all your insight about the oxford comma on the 50 ppm. your very british thing we're going to be listening a lot to that one because on the right of the other that's a great thing i'll come back to that when he does are about really means i will come to you has not left the game as we know and attentions not turning to a post breaks a trade deal with the u.s. but with concerns over chlorinated checking on the involvement of huawei in britain's 5 g. network it could all be hanging in the balance r.t. america's foreign friends that joins us from across the pond with all the stateside reaction farm many thanks indeed for joining us so what is the view that from the white house. well right now guys coming in and we have optimistic tweets in
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from 2 big players here in the u.s. we have u.s. secretary of state tweeting moments ago i'm pleased that the u.k. and e.u. have agreed on a deal that honors the will of the british people we will continue building upon our strong productive and prosperous relationship with the u.k. as they enter this next chapter and u.s. ambassador to the u.k. woody johnson tweeting this my message to the united kingdom is a simple one you have no greater friend ally and partner than the united states now mr bracks it himself president saying now that the u.s. and the u.k. can focus on strengthening their trans-atlantic ties for trump has always been progress back in 2017 trump was already talking trade deals with the u.k. and boasted his excitement in april 29th in trump fashion blasted the e.u. for being so tough on the u.k. and that the e.u. is a brutal trading partner for him to run this past december trump congratulated boris johnson adding this deal has the potential to be far bigger and more lucrative than any deal that could be made with the e.u.
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now the reality however could be a little bit trickier than that 1st on the agenda is the bilateral trade deal now trump has promised a massive deal but experts think that he'll continue his hard nose winner takes all approach and that boris johnson more offer any favors in return even u.s. secretary of state mike pompei oh he's warning that trade talks with the u.k. could be contentious particularly when it comes to agriculture and food standards business executives fear the u.k.'s insistence on banning chlorine wash chicken or hormone fed beef from here in the u.s. is incompatible with a free trade agreement which will be difficult to convince trump to sign on the dotted line but pompei o says both sides just need to speak the truth at the negotiating table take a listen. i'm sure the egg issues will be difficult our ask will be as it's been in the other negotiations we need to be open and honest about competitiveness but u.k.'s former international trade secretary liam fox says that all the fuss is unnecessary and the focus should be on the benefits of
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a deal rather than picking apart those small issues take a listen to the debate which should be about how we get make our contribution to global liberalization and the increase prosperity of both the u.k. the u.s. and our trading partners the complexities of those the continuity agreements the short term gains that we may make the opportunities that we have in our ability to work jointly towards with the free trade agreement and liberalization the british media obsessed with clearing was chickens i detail of the very end stage of one sector of a potential free trade agreement i say no more than the. now when it comes to the timeline of when a deal can be agreed upon and signed fox awhile back said there could be a way to fast track at his idea sign free trade deals with individual u.s. states you've got california texas florida and new york each have a condom is large enough to allow them to be
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a member of the g 20 even if they were and if they were independent nations rather now fox believes that deals can be struck with states because tariffs on goods can only be negotiated by washington but it's the deals on services that can be done at the state level which would be unlocking billions of pounds of business for u.k. economy there's enough there's other issues that could possibly be used as leverage yesterday u.s. secretary of state he sat down with the u.k. foreign secretary dominic rabb talking about national security and ties to china in particular that big weiwei discussion since the u.k. gave way the green light to play a role in its 5 g. network something that was something the trump in pompei or urged boris johnson not to do there's now some tension all these problems all could either help or hurt these trade talks only time will tell though and trump author of his famous book the art of the deal could make things a little bit more tough with his pal boris johnson bill and kate from across the pond back to you. in washington thank you very much indeed well they're going to
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head forward we've looked at what could happen with the trade deals with looks at the consequences for the country but let's also look at the consequences for the for the e.u. itself when diane do you think that this could start a domino effect especially not the do you think it will help bring them closer together i think that there is a real fear that the domino effect could start happen and that's why certainly some of the key figure heads merkel at the moment macron also to some degree from the netherlands they are all talking about you know let's keep the club together we don't want any more you know people trying to flee the club and also the conciliatory language coming from mrs vandalised and today you know talking about you know we we listening you know we're going to try and make it this more democratic we will to understand people's need for retaining so printing all this would think what it says to me there is very mixed messages because some of the the the facts and they were facts because the papers exist pointed to the issues about
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more consultant consolidation more federalism coming down the line in the european union and that's affectively what the whole vote leave complain with about you know and let's take back control and not see that controlled we and that in economic terms normal as proved the fact that the e.u. has been slowing growth in fact the u.k. now breaking away from the shackles of the e.u. could probably perform a lot better than a lot of those underperforming e.u. economies well i don't think so to be honest with you i mean our performance recently has been very good times in 70 levels but the interest is we've been in the you know it's just as it was because you're uncertain of anything else you lost through the half years but the interesting question is whether the e.u. you know without britain is a check on this kind of move towards the center quite effectively you know with britain out of the you the question is whether or not the e.u. would shudder at the process of centralizing or whether in fact they'll take a lesson from what happened and or go the opposite direction i mean. i'm a firm european but i also think that the you shouldn't interfere in masses for
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john not necessary to interfere in the base he was a director of a list or a circus director going on some of these evolve these matters so are they going to back off those sorts of things well they're going to control that even further that's an interesting question to see what they do with it i think one of the issues that we've talked to people so little on the doorsteps saying what do you think about the european union and one of the things that's come up as one of the key issues is the feeling that certain countries will abide or felt certain rules will be set but only certain countries will abide by it as to the to the whole block is that is something that isn't that can't really be rectified because certain countries police themselves or the other countries don't how do you rectify that and keep the block together we're going to do it by more control more more more control and hence the mantra from some individuals was to stop the you know very very good dot dot to kill 800 this more europe you know he was forever saying more europe that's what we need that's the answer to all the problems i mean i find the at this aspect of pull itself policing interesting only this week there's
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france one of the worst recycling rates in the world you know and there it is you know a country that fought for the whole so clear economy the whole recycling program and everything and yet it can even play a self i don't resort to flippant and refer to yesterday. when they say that in terms of regulations in european union the germans love it the french you know we're going to the british in force but michael. in davis bill what do you think great well thank you very much it's been great to get all your reaction so far so stay with us because you're here till 1 o'clock and there's plenty more to discuss as we're now in our 49th minute of being independent of if you don't bring in the t.v. we don't have to vote. you are going to try to get the message and you'd be forgiven for thinking that all this talk about trade deals and transition pay which is a little bit confusing. it's not exactly easy to explain but we've given is ago here's
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a little package i made earlier. with threats that day finally upon us the one question on everyone's lips is what happens next well it's the transition period until the end of the year where everything essentially stays the same for you and me it's business as usual for the e.u. and u.k. trade negotiators it's game on or they have to get a trade deal signed off by december 31st though ideally 6 months before to give businesses time to prepare the alternative well will crash out of the e.u. without a trade deal something businesses on both sides really want to avoid so we better crack on with the trade talks as soon as possible now boris johnson has said he wants to get started right now but that's a bit of an issue for the e.u. the e.u. isn't just one save it's $27.00 countries needing to agree a negotiating position and that won't be signed off until the end of next month so
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march will be the earliest we can actually get started but what might the agreement look like well the easiest for would be what's called an alignment deal our trade rules already mirror the e.u. so let's keep it essentially the same and just agree on which areas to diverged that's the e.u. has preferred option for the negotiations. michel of set the level playing field is of utmost importance if social rights are inventive of environmental or rights state aid or others where the advantage of that kind of deal is that it means the u.k. can access the e.u. single market and of course that means we get a deal and easily before the end of the year however that's not the way the u.k. government wants to go but we been very clear now for actually many months and of course in our recent election as well as we leave the e.u. we will not be in the single market we will not be in the. customs union and we will not be rude takers so let's try again boris johnson says he wants
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a free trade deal full comprehensive covering everything but how comprehensive could it be the one between the e.u. and canada took 7 years to finalize. nor does this negotiation will be difficult and demanding. for one reason. we'll be extremely short. 11 months or so. and if he's right we'd crash out without a deal so let's try again johnson said he wants a deal based on 0 tariffs and 0 quotas no barriers that all sounds easy except some are worried that letting the u.k. in without guaranteeing it won't play by e.u. rules would mean it becomes a very attractive no regulation no business tax zone with watered down workers' rights econd to singapore poaching business from the block the key issue here is
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around level playing field issues there is no way the e.u. will ever sign up to a trade deal that allows tariff free quota free and frictionless access to u.k. goods coming into the e.u. if there isn't a level playing field in terms of how they're produced because that would be unfair competition is there another way well then it gets tricky we're into sector by sector deals and some of those deals we've got a strong hand like fishing rights in others like financial services no deal could be the end of the city's dominance as banks and firms need to frankfurt to ensure they can still operate in europe. that all has to happen quickly as well because the clock is ticking and if the sign deals are done in time you guessed it we crash out i hope that's made everything a little clearer. to discuss the constitutional implications breaks it we're now
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joined by international barrister julian maidens q c good to see i have a feeling the last time i saw you and let's get this out of the way that you were indeed intending to stand for the breaks apart in the election well i was going to stand in sauls for it and i had filled out my nomination papers got my 10 signatures i paid by deposit of 500 pounds i've even taken a b. and b. for 6 weeks which i've never seen and then at the last moment every breakthrough party candidate in the tory held seat was withdraw right so i was withdrawn literally hours before i was officially a candidate so what are your thoughts now tonight. the dream fulfilled well i am. hopeful well i'm cautiously hopeful about the future because this is an opportunity which we've been given by leaving the or opinion but we have to take
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the battle. i mean looking at our governments in our life time by optimism is cautious but i'm still optimistic is this a big change constitutionally for it's a huge change constitutionally because now we've become a fully independent sovereign state. disentangling ourselves from the european union will be a long and time consuming problem because when the european union issued regulations they had directed thing act and instead of just letting them be regulations in order to disguise how much we were ruled by the commission we enacted those regulations verb 80 and as acts of parliament the customs and excise regulations and the acts are a good example so are wrong it clear there are all all the e.u. . law effectively is now in our acts of parliament didn't need to be but it is and
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the consequence of that is that we're the poor parliament should counsel is going to for over the coming months and years have to review dozens of statutes in order to change the law because if they don't it remains the law of the united kingdom this of course huge of interest a huge interest for you in your realm but yet we as everyday people apart from the change the kind of the possible to blow your exit point will we feel any difference well certainly for the rest of this year there will be absolutely no difference part after the transitional period and the government has said it wants to have all its deals in place by the end of the year which i think is tremendously ambitious there may well be differences but i think the important things for you and me personally that is can we go to all the countries of the or pin union without a visa i'm sure that will be negotiated just in a word they said ambitious with this trade deal are you optimistic just just fine
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and be done i think a reasonable trade deal with the european union can be done and i'm cautiously optimistic that we'll get good trade deals around the world but cautiously optimistic unite in psyche so much really good of you to join us this late hour thank you well we're back with more special abrasive nights coverage in just a few minutes. we don't want to kind of inspect empty plaza with a with an axe and the monument we want to kind of as an urban bus all streets filled with events leads theater with myspace this conference center so maybe i love going to conferences and debates and such events like the battle of ideas of london of the bobby can for instance these are the kind of things used to be striving on imposts making connection with other people to set up projects.
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you can a truly momentous night for the united kingdom the night we left the e.u. . the party winds down and a lot of breaks it is very healthy that 4 years on from the referendum it's finally happened. the european union the u.k. farewell for knowledge just a trade deal to get to the next 11 months to get live reaction from our europe correspondent. and is the union at risk of being held in scotland as the e.u. flag is.

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