we often supposed to be strong to not. destroy it mr president is in my opinion. the imaginary tense you were going underground hours after the u.k. officially left the e.u. ending 47 years membership of the world's largest new liberal trading blog with me in the studio of the daily mail's consulting editor and u.p.s. former liberal democrat leader and said receive the business of its cable and front man of sheffield band revenue makers john mcclure who campaigned for labor in the last election welcome to all of you we've got the eve of bricks it papers here not today's ones our time has come from the murdoch sun with the 50 quid they giving out saying 50 p. coins and your paper and you do one for britain and drew a momentous day because the guardian will be getting to that in the in the 2nd predictably against brick said but i drew how do you stand up for this is the from page momentous day we salute

a new dawn for britain directly from 10 downing street and yet the head has run because the white kids over there boris johnson speaks to the nation he doesn't do that very often this has been a long time in a controversial way no pool cameras well 3 and a half years been waiting for this and it's about time and i think we should not get on with it and look forward to the new beginning so rents have campaigned against breaks it before and since the breaks that referendum you're really effect the end of the year on the under transfers and it was some years before that some canister whether this is a success or failure are going up on my part john what do you make of the celebrations on protests funny on my way here to walk through whitehall which is obviously kind of like a picture on one side of the road is the brick city is on the other side is the remain is and it's obviously all very shouty and stuff and i'm come kind of with vince really i think that there's a time for shouting and this is not because ultimately stops up and i don't think should we see where we are then and those of us who were opposed to bricks then me . kind of in hindsight look what the wise ones perhaps ok well we certainly know

that the media played a part and certain people that lost claim that it was the media that changed it has got to this headline from the god which is johnson met murdoch on the day he signaled a general election bid only one media billionaire not like and rather mayor your boss. while going to join what do you think about way he met murdoch before calling the election is it still big oligarchs i think rupert murdoch. said the current conservative government is pretty much in lockstep actually and i think that you don't have to look at the kind of coordinated headlines across the murdoch press to see the whole into question whether we are in fact sometimes a democracy because i think of all the people don't know about this all the facts all the time and i can they make an informed decision in the general election and i would wonder whether it's possible it's all in this country to become the prime minister without having rupert murdoch on side

a mic not substituting it i mean he was a real power 20 years ago 10 years ago when when cameron how does guyon number 10 but since then you know social media has gradually superseded some of the print media he lost b. sky b. you know that's point i mean the pub the problem with that headline is boris johnson didn't call the general election he wanted a general election but it only happened because the s.n.p. in the lib dems combined disastrously tent in my view to say they would back an election then labor had to really win then the fixed in power at least through did so without the lid tens and do with murdoch there are no general election just listen to donald trump and his all important reaction to what's happening in britain we look forward to negotiating a tremendous new deal with the united kingdom have a wonderful new prime minister wants very much to make a deal it's a say. great news events to the import. beate impeached president fighting with

former national security advisor john bolton he wants to do a deal as former business secretary of this country who was in the cabinet under david cameron must be great to hear that i was involved directly in the teach at negotiations or an attempt to reach an agreement with the americans ken clarke and i were the point people in the u.k. government teton despised by i don't know if they will get some piece of paper from the americans but it will not do very much i mean in terms of access to america the big problem actually is procurements in the states it's not actually by federal government you know individual states and yeah you are and then terms of the concessions we have to make in the u.k. are member of the well known food safety is there more circle suppleness. setting up of this new court which is independence of our judiciary independent court to arbitrate u.s.-u.k. trade yes sudden disputes around investment that was one of the really tricky issues on team to put it will come back again in the negotiations with the us trump

has got this fixation about countries that have surpluses and deficits with the imagined states and britain actually has a trade surplus with the us so we don't enter these negotiations in a terribly strong position under your readers because we worried about chlorinated chicken itself coming back with in full i suppose it's emblematic of the need to get into it and i can't remember which minister was on which side of the on when liam fox was in the cabinet you had to expect with michael michael gove who's opposed to chlorinated you can coming in and folks being a purist free marketeer will have no difficulty with it now ministers tell me it's never coming in because it's become that technical issue we'll see i mean don't you think when you watch that a lot of people in britain will be fearful given the trump is disliked greatly in this country yeah i mean there's a real risk of the you know the risk of we winning the kind of labor election campaign we on the left worry about the. you know the u.s.

demand for free market access to the n.h.s. which is kind of something which terrifies everybody and i kind of feel you know a little bit as though we have been held to ransom but you know i'm quite encouraged early days to put boris johnson resisted the clatter in the didn't from the white house over while way and he purse the head with that decision which i think was the right decision and that and we would total the apocalyptic things were going to happen if we didn't listen to the united states and he didn't and i think that's a good stones your minds about you know that it's a good start was a good decision no surprise but he did it ground and if you don't see the signs are waving leaders of the obesity the u.s. trade negotiations are a lot more encouraging because it will it could go to this as regards island in the breakup of the united kingdom it alone trade from business inside of the u.k. is a little new view of the world means it will lose to the brics a trade talks says lee overread price was as you come to you again it's because. is

this how it's seen in europe well they will have to approach these negotiations with a certain amount of humility and we are in a relatively weak position and i think we're in a different phase now and we don't longer argue about money and the principles with withdrawal agreement actually what the british are asking for is not very much in this kind of the type agreement is actually about decoupling from the european union what do you make of it joe well i think you only have to look at britain's recent interventions in the middle east and various other parts of the world to kind of see that we kind of still consider ourselves to be rather a big deal in a lot of our colonial past in the at this kind of pharmacy that one country is going to dictate terms to 27 other countries this is obviously a nonsense and moreover than the kind of worry about the people that we're electing to while fishing i mean. kevin self is a homosexual man and johnson's comments about gay men are on record for all to see i mean i was not play out when the 2 of them go for meetings i think it is this i don't they get many people think he is obviously a place that is

a good marketing barry sims who believes type of tory's if a man is mayor of london and he was he was in the price great wearing pink some pink stetsons it was a city company made a call and he's made lots of city come and save us ok how about the attitudes to the conservatives and what the conservative alike when they negotiate let's hear from dominic cummings who is seen as the springle the of course one of the core problems of the core tory party brand going back decades at n.h.s. and people think by the way i think most people right the tory party has won by people who basically don't care about people like me but that's what most people would country have thought about 20 policy for decades i know a lot tory m.p.'s i'm sad to say the public is basically correct than drew who is that so our international viewers that's dominant cummings who didn't like the blue skies think of the man who got breaks it down for boris johnson to run lead with bird johnson and michael gave his friendship actually is much deeper with mike who

gave because. many years brought my could go through is going to have a huge role in an enhanced business to power and i think a lot of you don't realize what tommy comes he's never been a member of the tory party he's never been member of any political party and the reason a lot of mates in the tory party he was brought into government just to get briggs it done his latest big target is now going to be defense became it because it's a basket case and has been for decades but that is typical personal think he will turn the civil service upside down and he will turn the tory party upside down well i'm sure no one from ministry of defense will deny what he said about procurement but vince you agree with cummings perhaps yes and i think you know we have this caricature of tories as being right re smug but he is totally i'm typically a man actually i mean one of the relieved regard way the labor party of underestimated the tories is the fact that they're pretty much since a fracture with margaret thatcher john major now or they have really consciously tried to become more populist and engage with you know what you might

call the right wing working class suburban you worked with them i do not go i love seeing cummings in our marriage i mean obviously john what he said about people's attitudes as to what tories feel when it goes the n.h.s. do you also understand as other elements like the un report by feelable student of the international reports that say there's been a political decision to a cruel decision against the poor of this country yeah i wonder how many comings it's got from the opposition where essentially is telling the truth and what he said there was perfectly valid i mean jeremy haun coauthored a book which kind of openly advocated for the privatisation of the n.h.s. for the poles and set a systematic immiseration of a 6 significant part of the british population they say that this is a political decision that's been taken regards to austerity in the n.h.s. and stuff and i wonder how that money can then go from a spouse in those views to go into being government because you want to get done and labor certainly were going to do it although there it was jones and you know he's telling. the truth he's a very very. just clever strategic thinking one of the best and it's labor

ironically who's lost those white working class people the tories of say east and partly because i think jeremy cooper most seems to pick criticism for that but i went out and some of those who don't know because a cool when he couldn't even blame the russians or even if you took masing this stuff all resonates on the doorstep well i don't know what do you think but i think i think if you think it was there's an element of what you say undoubtedly the kind of smear come out of british media. is a lot of things said he wouldn't play with a lot of things such as him being a chick spy an old man of the things particularly in the daily mail and over newspapers which were obsolete completely untrue let's be honest and i think it's unprecedented the kind of smear campaign against kobe not only there's an element of that in the north but i leave i'm no why people go the way they did he was a bricks and you're french john we can take a break that for all of them after this short break.

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a 1000000 come on. shore you know not those they need the whole. lot out of here was. just my. knowledge or your watch your whole life for this was a deal like i ever said to me it was impossible wasting my time to go back to business it just shows you actually the truth of it is there was a massive disconnect between how westminster's all the europe it is you have a country soviets you know what i did was to go in there and expose it so that i'm absolutely thrilled when you go from here to your political career and all of us your opinion what in 26 days after the referendum. i believed. what the

government said and i kind of stepped back a bit from it. but i came back and. reset the agenda i am not going to run away i'm going to keep a very close watch all of this next year i will praise the prime minister the rooftops. and. if it's not i think a very large number of people who. accept that it's a democratic result except what's happening now want to make the best of it and i mean. who's going to refuse to use the 50. he begins to look a little bit like a member of the. this is one of the biggest. in terms of the constitutional position in this country. centuries. would be ridiculous.

this is a big history and it's not triumphalism it's celebration. really. what really happened here is the people of. 10 years ago. building. one of the european union this was a grassroots campaign that succeeded so the real winner here is democracy and goodness me. as i say we will be there. many thing. and they may be right and if they all right. you know if it turns out with. history but it is. that's great. we will be there we will not allow the ball to be dropped again without. trying to. european in every way. 20 years but i've spent over 20 years inside the institutions and i

want to europe of sovereign nation states i want to trade together cooperate together have rest of prosody student exchanges to be neighbors as if we're living in the same street and they want to respect each other we're close to cooperate with each other and i want to be run by a bunch of old men in the european commission who i can't vote for like not really thank you thank you very much. greater party leader nigel farage we're going on within the past 24 hours welcome back i'm still here with andrew pierce so vince cable and john mcclure. andrew is not going to be made ambassador to the united states we didn't get on we don't cummings legibly but a victory for tony bennett against your hero mrs thatcher who always wanted closer relations with the european union if she was alive today she'd have been in that referendum campaign she'd be back in supporting nigel she were as you would if you i'm quite convinced this is a great moment for knowledge for us because he now has to be seen in in the context of he's probably one of the most significant politicians who's never been elected

to westminster at the last full 2 years because without the brick without him it never been a referendum he spooked david cameron panicked held a referendum and then screwed up the referendum join it as we said it is a left wing project in its inception breaks that tony benn was the key cheerleader breaks it at the moment we're seeing the flames in paris as the. fluting border posts in greece as they try and lock out refugees the e.u. is near liberal project why should labor ever have not supported knowledge of well i think in some ways the lexicon of side of things has been completely written out of the narrative in lots of ways and the right the political right. almost in its entirety i think every little bit with these that we're kind of forced into this by the thing where he thought you were either he or you completely madly for him lots of us on the left like reservations about the book would draw the stain and you never hear them voices and i think to be called himself said at one point i'm 7 out

. 10 about the i personally am 7 i would say and i don't think he was perfect by any stretch but i honestly feel like the alternative is going to be a disaster when you book out your professor of those school of economics presumably very remain london school of economics did ledger for edge come up often when you were in the cabinet. no of course he's the big winner and was right about that but i think we should be learning from my much i don't think people are going to reopen their minds on this issue for quite a long time but 5 to 10 years hence they haven't delivered there will be a lot of disillusionment probably mounted up so probably that the younger generation will want to reopen this is ok well let's look at something about the environmental implications of brakes at this from europe active he could use carbon border tax against brics it britain warns and we. can be seen as got a complicated story at the top especially given the boris johnson is talking about

climate change goals but it says that the greenpeace investigation claims that tens of millions of tonnes of carbon are being sent or projects are being sponsored by the british taxpayer as to how do you see the climate change the. context of brics action climate change is becoming it's become a real issue now and it's really important i thought it would feature more in the general election actually because i think criticism has been hugely influential she's much ridiculed by people out on the tram but by god she's put it on the agenda and the young people in this country are really passionate about and you believe boris johnson personally as well i think he has to be otherwise he'll pay a heavy price for it what do you make of the carbon tax is a perfectly sensible this is not where you are as a business to book it's actually saying oh you export finance don't you do it export from arms it's about imposing a tax on all carbon using substances including imports are square the carbon tax comes from if the. opinion start slamming on import restrictions on china and india

and brazil and the rest of them and these these are the countries that are not going to corporate but john we know about european environmental standards from under the diesel scandal of the european garment effectors arguably the left though believe that the european union was so a force for good when it came to the environment yeah because i think we have to take collective action with regards to the environment and that means you know cooperation with other countries in this idea that we can in disentangle ourselves from political you or we can also do so from a geographical you're a piece is actually nonsense we exist in the same part of the world and therefore have to take some degree of collective action i think johnson's game of populism that he's played during the whole thing actually means that much of his base maybe don't care about climate change i think a lot of these basic would be important parts openly skeptical when you go to the climate you not to write about that but i think he's got people around you know they've got to bridge this because nigel farage always denied it was about

immigration to one side of the electorate and then talked a lot about immigration to others if we see this from the level of independent boris johnson accused of using immigration system as a marketing gimmick over high skill visa. since immigration you often used to say was behind the old bricks it projects what do you make of the high skilled visas and what's being talked about and presume we this has to all be done we are going real problem area for the government and i had constant problems when i was in government with to reason of a student son and other things but i mean in a way the government is pointing in 2 different directions and they want the economy to succeed at the same time a lot of people in the u.k. expecting immigration to fall quite drastically and you can't satisfy all these different constituent he's always been he's always took a different line to treason may have an issue if you want to be in the low tens of thousands and i think boris johnson's taken the figure. completely ok well it's

good to this telegraph us could see community vitek judd's imposed brigs it u.k. trade deal more than glory the chicken you worry your readers about isn't this the problem that these big tech companies the payload leony tags well that's the pump of the tax but it's going to be part of the free trade yeah you know it's all good jobs is there is going to be a tech tax of course that's another standoff with trump and how long he's going to be present but we don't know when it's quid pro quo they have to pay tax but then they get full scale full spectrum surveillance of every british subject no no i mean we will continue to be governed by g.d.p. of the european nature rules and that's something that you'll sell but you know but i would be surprised if we deviate from there because it's worked quite well k.s.u. as is obviously tax structure starts here their pay tax in the u.s. is either then in negotiation surely they had a facebook amazon twitter hutto sells can just say to

a british minister you know what if you want to do this to us we'll leave we can block you from it they have the power we do it well they are they are massive global companies i think that there is an interesting case in the british competition system at the moment where we're trying to block all the authorities say they're trying to block a takeover of amazon the deliverer of figure or something one of those subsidiary companies and i think that's a good test of how much taking back control really being something in this trial would how do you think briggs it will impact us well to the shoulder of a brit they seems to me that we're being blackmailed essentially they're threatening to put a tax on the u.k. call industry unless we cave on the she issue is interesting that looks like the crown is already caved in the french may kind of deal with us as the us ruskin to tax the tech giants i think is an open and shut case i mean you have to link these directly to austerity into the kind of situation these countries bezos alone has

the enough. when it will probably be for 10 months kill anyone he said those are the figures you have really going to win even if the children succeed 4000000 people even public is going to rise to 5000000 you have the rich the vents on financial services where the big growth has been since this is that you're in the big bang will be the same regardless of the so-called brics it's only a joyous occasion going to take a hit and about 20 percent of that business is with the european union moving institutions the city of probably best place to cope with it well it's here boris johnson kind of a previous boris johnson the really worst johnson's arguably the how would you vote to mark i was around i'd like to stay in the single market i'm in favor of the single market i want to be paul i want us to be able to trade freely with our european friends and partners which boris johnson is that we do and if we go to what do we live in that story he wrote the $5000.00 word article stupidity telegraph one he published the why we had to leave it was a very eloquent case where we had to be fair can case why we should stay and i he

waited up like this in decided we'd like populism this is not only true he will say anything if it guarantees power and as much as i kind of hate margaret thatcher and love jenny colby i it makes me yearn for politicians who have conviction because these people literally will say anything useful coming before saying the exact opposite coming from a still believe that the tories will destroy the n.h.s. we don't know. vince you are in the cabinet of david cameron to put the referendum in place which is why when talking about all the 6 years in the cabinet. duncan smith quite a few others i don't think they remotely thought that we were going to walk away from the single market interest and unit we could have worked towards a bricks relationship with the european union that kept most of the economic benefits but walked away from a lot of the politics and we haven't done that and i think there will be a big price to pay or andrew do you think actually as nigel seemed to intimate britain's the fullest of the countries to leave the european union i mean i'm not

wishing that a lot of the european union. workers are. very day or of course if we had stayed in the customs union the single market then we would never be free to strike the trade deals beyond which is one of the great attractions the irony of course is that today we've requested help from the regarding corona virus on the very day that we left which to me demonstrates perfectly the need for international co-operation you know really we're going to rejoin without joining the euro. that. the formal legal bills in 5 years' time the european union may be a quite different structure. vince cable thank you doctor for the children back on monday with the man who beat dole drum bernie sanders whenever i were in the what do we call been failed to get a progressive politician in charge of an age religion given.

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