eve of bricks it papers here not today's ones the time has come when the murdoch son with the 50 quid they giving him 50 p. coins and your paper and you do one for britain and drew a momentous day because the guardian will be getting to that in the in the 2nd predictably against brick said but i drew how do you stand up for this is the from page momentous day we salute a new dawn for britain directly from 10 downing street then you get the hell yeah and we got the white cliffs of dover that boris johnson speaks to the nation he doesn't do that very often this has been a long time in a controversial way no pool cameras well 3 and a half years been waiting for this and it's about time and i think we should not get on with it and look forward to the new beginning syringes you have campaigned against breaks it before and since the brakes at referendum your reaction well it's probably neutral. it's a bit of an anticlimax when you this is going to happen couple of months ago it's happened nothing materially affect sternly end of the year when the under terms or

and it was some years before that some canister whether this is a success or failure i mean upon mine part john what do you make of the celebrations on protests funny on my way here to walk through whitehall which is obviously kind of like a picture on one side of the road is the brick city is on the other side is the remain is and it's obviously all very shouty and stuff and i'm come kind of we've been really i think that there's a time for shouting and this is not because ultimately sucks up enough don't think should we see where we are then and those of us who were opposed to bricks then me kind of in hindsight look like the wise ones perhaps ok well we certainly know that the media played a part and certain people that lost certainly claim that it was the media the change that has got to this headline from the gaudi which is johnson with murdoch on the day he signaled the general election bid only one media billionaire not like a role the mayor your boss. what are we to do what do you think about way he meant

murdoch vocal in the election is it still big oligarchs i think rupert murdoch. said the current conservative government is pretty much in lockstep actually and i think that you don't have to look at the kind of coordinated headlines across the murdoch press to see the whole into question whether we are in fact sometimes a democracy because i think of all the people don't have access to all the facts all the time and i can they make an informed decision in the general election and i would wonder whether it's possible it's all in this country to become the prime minister without having rupert murdoch on side a minute not so stating i mean he was a real power 20 years ago 10 years ago when when cameron how does guyon number 10 but since then you know social media has gradually superseded some of the print media he lost b. sky b. you know that's probably i mean the problem with that headline is the didn't go to the general election he wanted a general election but it only happened because the s.n.p.

in the lib dems combined disastrously tent in my view to say they would back an election then labor had to row in then the fixed term power at whizzed through did so without the lid ten's and then do rupert murdoch there are no general election just listen to donald trump and his all important reaction to what's happening in britain we look forward to negotiating a tremendous new deal with the united kingdom have a wonderful new prime minister wants very much to make a deal it's a say. great news events that the employer be impeached president fighting with former national security advisor john bolton he wants to do a deal as full a business secretary of this country who was in the cabinet on the david cameron must be great to hear that i was involved in directly in the teach at negotiations or an attempt to reach an agreement with the americans ken clarke and i were the point people in the u.k. government teton despised by i don't know if they were. some piece of paper from

the americans but it will not do very much but in terms of access to america the big problem actually is procurements in the states it's not actually by federal government you know individual states and yet you are and then terms of the concessions we have to make in the u.k. are member of the well the food safety issue there are more subtle subtle is the setting up of this new court which is independent of our judiciary independent court to arbitrate u.s. u.k. trade yes sudden disputes around investment that was one of the really tricky issues on st separate it will come back again and they negotiate with the u.s. trying to stop this fixation about countries that have surpluses and deficits with the imagined states and britain actually has a trade surplus with the u.s. so we don't enter these negotiations in a terribly strong position under your readers because we worried about chlorinated chicken itself coming back with in full i suppose it's emblematic legalities and i can't remember which minister was on which side of the on when liam fox was in the

cabinet you had a big spat with michael michael go who's opposed to chlorinated you can coming in and folks being a purist free marketeer will have no difficulty with it now ministers tell me it's never coming in because it's become that technical issue we'll see i mean john do you think when you watch that a lot of people in britain will be fearful given that trump is disliked greatly in this country yeah i mean there's a real risk of the you know the risk of we winning the kind of labor election campaign we on the left worry about the you know the u.s. demand for free market access to the n.h.s. which is kind of something which terrifies everybody and i kind of feel you know a little bit as though we have been held to ransom but you know i'm quite encouraged early days to put boris johnson resisted the clatter in the didn't from the white house over a while away and he personally had with that decision which i think was the right decision and that and we would. total these apocalyptic things are going to happen

if we didn't listen to the united states and he didn't and i think that's a good stones your morals about you know that you're going to cause a good decision no surprise but he did it graham and if you want to sign up for ways you can lead is one of the obesity in the u.s. trade negotiations were moderately encouraging because it will it could go to this as regards ireland and the breakup of the united kingdom it alone trade from business inside of the u.k. is new view of the world means it will lose to the brics a trade talks says lee overread price was as you come to you again it's because is this how it's seen in europe well they will have to approach these negotiations with a certain amount of humility and we are in a relatively weak position and i think we're in a different phase now and it went on longer argue about money on the principles and with withdrawal agreement actually what the british are asking for is not very much i mean this kind of the type agreement is actually about decoupling from the european union what do you make of it joe well i think you only have to look at

britain's recent interventions in the middle east and various other parts of the world to kind of see that we kind of still consider ourselves to be rather a big deal and a lot of our colonial past and the at this kind of father say that one country is going to dictate terms to 27 other countries it's obviously a nonsense and moreover than our kind of worry about the people that we're electing to while fishing i mean. kevin self is a homosexual man and bobby's johnson's comments about gay men are on record for all to see i mean i was the player when the 2 of them go for meetings. and this i don't they get many people think he is ok good place is a good marketing barry sims one of the least type of kind of 2 words if a man is mayor of london and he was he was in the pride great wearing pink some pink stetsons it was a city company made a call and he's made lots of city come and save us ok how about the attitudes to the conservatives and what the conservative alike when they negotiate let's hear from dominic cummings who is so. scene is the single the

a very strong one of the core problems of the court tory party brand going back decades at n.h.s. and people think by the way i think most people right the tory party has won by people who basically don't care about people like me but that's what most people would country for about 20 policy for decades i know a lot tory m.p.'s of start to say the public is basically correct than drew if i who is that so our international viewers that's dominic cummings who is like the blue sky sinker the man who got breaks it down for boris johnson he run the lead with boris johnson and michael gave his friendship actually is much deeper with michael gave it goes back many years brought my could go through is going to have a huge role in an enhanced business to power and i think a lot of you don't realise what time it comes he's never been a member of the tory party he's been member of any political party and the reason a lot of mates in the tory party he was brought into government just to get briggs it done he's laid his big target is now going to be defense particularly because it's a basket case and has been to decades but that is typical of birth don't think he will to turn the civil service upside down and he will turn the tory party upside

down well i'm sure no one from ministry of defense would deny what he said about procurement but vince you agree with cummings but yes and i think you know we have this caricature of tories as being right reece marg but he's totally untypical i'm actually i mean one of the relieved regard the labor party of underestimated the tories is the fact that pretty much since a fracture with margaret thatcher john major now or they have really consciously tried to become more populist and engage with you know what you might call the right wing working class vote you worked with him i don't like i love seeing cummings in our marriage i mean obviously john what he said about people's attitudes as for what tories feel what it was the n.h.s. judy also understands other elements like the un report by feelable student of the international reports that say there's been a political decision to the cruel decision against the. or of this country yeah i

wonder how many comings it's got from the opposition where essentially is telling the truth and what he said there was perfectly valid i mean generally home coauthored a book which kind of openly advocated for the privatization of the n.h.s. for the polls and said a systematic immiseration of a 16 significant part of the british population this is that this is a political decision that's been taken with regards to austerity in the n.h.s. and stuff and i wonder how that money can then go from espousing those views to go into being government because you want to get done and labor certainly are going to do it will the church results and you know he's telling johnson the truth he's a very easy very she just clever strategic thinker one of the best and it's labor ironically who's lost those white working class people that the tories of say east and partly it's because i think jeremy called me most and seems pat to tick male criticism for they believe i went out and some of these northern cities who don't know because of cool when he couldn't even blame the russians even if you took masing this stuff all resonated on the doorstep well i don't know joe what do you

think i think you think it was there's an element of what you say undoubtedly the kind of smear campaign perpetrated by the british mostly smear snow some of these a lot of things said he wouldn't play with a lot of things said such as him being a check spy an old man of the things particularly in the daily mail and over newspapers which were out obsolete completely untrue let's be honest and i think it's unprecedented the kind of smear campaign against coal been actually there's an element of that in the north but i lived there i don't know why people vote the way they did and it's because of bricks and your friends john we'll take a break that more for all of them after this short break. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics small business i'm showbusiness i'll see that.

during the great depression which i'm old enough to remember there was most of my family were unemployed working class there wasn't it was bed you know much worse subjectively than today but there was an expectation that things were going to get better. there was a real sense of hopefulness there isn't today today's america where shaped by the 10 principles of concentration of wealth and power. reduced democracy attack solo down engineer elections manufacture consent and other principle holds according to no i'm chomsky one set of rules for the rich opposite set of rules for poor. that's what happens when you put her into the hands of a narrow sector of will switch will is dedicated to increasing power for itself

just as you'd expect one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization of america. i'm not sure you watch a whole life of us feel like it was said to me it was impossible wasting my time to go back to business it just shows you actually the truth of it is there was a massive disconnect between how westminster sold to europe it is you how the country will be as you know what i did was to go in there and expose it so that i'm absolutely thrilled when you go for. 26 days after the referendum i believed. what the government said and i kind of stepped back

a bit from it all and it became a total mess and i came back and. reset the agenda i am not going to run away i'm going to keep a very close watch all of this next year i will praise the prime minister the rooftops if it is going well and all soundly. if it's not i think a very large number of people who voted. except that it's a democratic result except what's happening and now want to make the best of it i mean. he's going to refuse to use the 50. he begins to look a little bit like a member the. this is one of the biggest historical moments in terms of the constitutional position in this country for centuries it would be ridiculous. a big history triumphalism it celebration really.

what really happened here is the people of the westminster establishment 10 years ago. building the european union. one of the leave the european union this was a grassroots campaign that succeeded so the real winner here is democracy and goodness me. as i say we will be there. many thing. and they may be right and if they all right. if it turns out with. history but it. will be that we will not allow the bull to be dropped again without. trying to take. this movement. look i. i i'm pro european in every way i've spent 20 years but i've spent over 20 years inside the institutions and i want to europe of sovereign nation states i want to trade together cooperate

together have rest of prosody student exchanges to be neighbors as if we're living in the same street and want to respect each other we're close to cooperate with each other and i want to be run by a bunch of old men in the european commission who i can't vote for i can't remove thank you thank you very much. greater party leader nigel farage speaking to going on within the past 24 hours welcome back i'm still here in under piers so in stable and john mcclure. andrew is not going to be made ambassador to the united states who didn't get on with only cummings allegedly but a victory for tony bennett against your hero mrs thatcher who always wanted closer relations with the european union if she was alive today she'd have been in that referendum campaign she'd be back in supporting nigel she were as you would if you i'm quite convinced this is a great moment for knowledge for us because he now has to be seen in in the context of he's probably one of the most significant politicians who's never been elected to westminster at the last full 2 years because without the brick without him it

never been a referendum he spooked david cameron panicked held a referendum and then screwed up the referendum joy it has to be said it is a left wing project in its inception tony benn was the key cheerleader breaks it at the moment we're seeing the flames in paris as the. fluting border posts in greece as they try and lock out refugees the e.u. is near liberal project why should labor ever have not supported knowledge of well i think in some ways the lexicon of side of things has been completely written out of the narrative in lots of ways and the right the political right. almost in its entirety and i think every little bit with these that we're kind of forced into this by anything where he thought you were either he or you completely madly for him lots of us on the left like base of asians. the book would draw the stain and you never hear them voices and i think the called himself said at one point i'm 7 out of 10 about the i personally am 7 i would say i don't think he was perfect by

any stretch but i honestly feel like the alternative break is going to be a disaster when it's your new book out you're a professor of those school of economics presumably very remain london school of economics did ledger for edge come up often when you were in the cabinet. no of course he's the big winner in and was right about but i think we should be learning from my much i don't think people are going to reopen their minds on this issue for quite a long time but after 10 years and they haven't delivered there will be a lot of disillusionment probably not so probably that the younger generation will want to reopen this is ok well let's look at something about the environmental implications of brakes at this from europe active he could use carbon border tax against brics it britain warns that we. can be seen as got a complicated story at the job especially given that boris johnson is talking about climate change goals but it says that the greenpeace investigation claims that tens

of millions of tonnes of carbon are being sent or projects are being sponsored by the british taxpayer as to how do you see the climate change. context of brics action climate change is becoming it's become a real issue now and it's really important i thought it would feature more in the general election actually it because i think criticism has been hugely influential she's much ridiculed but people out on the tram but by god she's put it on the agenda and the young people in this country are really passionate about and you believe boris johnson personally as well i think he has to be otherwise he'll pay a heavy price for it what do you make while the carbon tax is a perfectly sensible this is not where you are as a business to book it's actually saying oh you export finance don't you do it export front arms it's about imposing a tax on all. carbon using substances including imports ours where the carbon tax comes from if the european union start slamming on import restrictions on china and

india and brazil on the rest of them and these these are the countries that are not going to corporate but join we knew about european environmental standards from under the diesel scandal of the european garment effectors arguably the left though believe that the european union was so a force for good when it came to the environment yeah because i think we have to take collective action with regards to the environment and that means you know cooperation with other countries in this idea that we could in disentangling ourselves from political you are we can also do so from a geographical you're a piece is a silly nonsense we exist in the same part of the world and therefore have to take some degree of collective action i think johnson's game of populism that he's played during the whole thing actually means that much of his base maybe don't care about climate change i think a lot of these basic would be important facts openly skeptical with regards to climate you might be right about that but i think he's got people around you know they've got to bridge this because nigel farage always denied it was about immigration to one side of the electorate and then talked

a lot about immigration to others if we see this from the level of independent boris johnson accused of using immigration system as a marketing gimmick over high skill visa. since immigration you often used to say was behind the old bricks it projects what do you make of the high skilled visas and what's being talked about and presumably this has to all be done very quick real problem area for the government and i had constant problems when i was in government with to reason my student son and other things but i mean in a way the government is pointing in 2 different directions and they want the economy to succeed at the same time a lot of people in the u.k. expecting immigration to fall quite drastically and you can't satisfy all these different constituent he's always been he's always to. different lined the trees may have an issue if you want to be in the low tens of thousands and i think boris johnson's taken the figure out completely ok we'll it's good to this the telegraph

us could see community vitek judson post brigs it u.k. trade deal and you're more than chlorinated chicken you worry your readers about isn't this the problem that these big tech companies the payload the any tags well that's the pump of the tax but it's going to be part of the free trade you know it's all good jobs is there is going to be a tech tax of course that's another standoff with trump and news how long he's going to be present but we don't know this quid pro quo they have to pay tax but then they get full scale full spectrum surveillance of every british subject no no i mean we will continue to be governed by g.d.p. of the european nature rules and that's something he was a member of but i would be surprised if we deviate from their touch because it's worked quite well casey has obviously tax. their pay tax in the us i've been in negotiation surely the head of facebook amazon twitter who knows els can just say to a british minister you know what if you want to do this to us we'll leave we can block

you from it they have the power we do it well they are they are massive global companies i think that there is an interesting case in the british competition system at the moment where we're trying to block all the authorities say they're trying to block a takeover of amazon the deliverer of trader or sally one of those subsidiary companies and i think that's a good test of how much taking back control really be something in this letter would how do you think briggs it will impact us well to the shoulder of a brit seems to me that we're being blackmailed essentially they're threatening to put a tax on the u.k. call industry unless we cave on the she issue is interesting that looks like the crown has already caved in the french may kind of do as the us ruskin to tax the tech giants i think is an open and shut case i mean you have to live. directly to austerity into the kind of situation this country jeff bezos alone has the money to and will probably take months to kill anyone he said those are the figures you know

we're going to win even if the children succeed 4000000 people even public is going to rise to 5000000 k. to have the rich the vents on financial services where the big growth has been since mrs thatcher in the big bang will be the same regardless of the so-called brics it's only a joyous occasion going to take a hit and about 20 percent of that business is with the european union moving institutions the city of probably best place to cope with it well it's here boris johnson kind of a previous boris johnson when he was johnson's arguably the how would you vote mark it was a random i vote to stay in the single market and in favor of the single market i want to be paul i want us to be able to trade freely with our european friends and partners which boris johnson is that we do and if we go to now i want to be less orica he read to 5000 word article stupidity telegraph one he published alky why we had to leave it was a very eloquent case where we had to be fair can case why we should stay and i he waited up like this and decided we'd like populism this is not only true he will

say anything if it guarantees power and as much as i kind of hate margaret thatcher and love jenny colby it makes me yearn for politicians who have come big because these people literally will say anything useful coming before saying the exact opposite coming from a still believe that the tories will destroy the n.h.s. we don't we don't know when you were in the cabinet or david cameron who put the referendum in place which is why when talking about the liberal 6 years in the cabinet. duncan smith kind of europe i don't think they remotely thought that we were going to walk away from the single market customs union we could have worked towards a brics relationship with the european union that kept most of the economic benefits but walked away from a lot of the politics and we haven't done that and i think there will be a big price to pay or andrew do you think actually as nigel. seemed to intimate britain's the fullest of the countries to leave the european union i mean i'm not wishing that a law on the european union is still the french word because. they don't oversold

a day or a bit also of course if we had stayed in the customs union the single market then we would never be free to strike the trade deals beyond which is one of the great attractions the irony of course is that today we've requested help from the we got in coronavirus on the very day that we left which to me demonstrates benefit of the need for international cooperation you know they were going to be joined without joining the euro. that because of the formal legal bills in 5 years' time the european union may be quite different structure. it's cable joe mcquaid thank you that's over the shoulder back on monday when the man who the gold drum but he signed as i say whenever i were in the what the recall been failed to put a progressive politics in charge of a nato nations even. during the great depression which i'm old enough to remember there was most of my family were unemployed. and it wasn't it was bed you know much worse objective listen

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