he's a political analyst and editor in a semi internet media project and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he's the editor of politics 1st magazine right on across like rules in effect that he can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate let me go to marcus 1st in london well it took 1316 days but the u.k. is finally out of the european union the next 11 months will be very key what can we expect and i want to focus on geopolitics here what kind of balancing act does prime minister boris johnson have to play in dealing with a new relationship with the european union and possibly a new relationship with the united states go ahead marcus well now that britain has left the u.s. in unions the hard work begins because last time the one happens next it's office opportunities to the u.k. so example for cool since britain see the gayness. as a listen to construct a sensible and coherence immigration policy on the other hand there are challenges

to the u.k. and one of those challenges britain is to secure long term and fawns hey just trade it was with countries around the world and their last question marks as to whether britain can't secure and funds pages trade deals with countries so for example when it comes to america there is some concern that yes brits and it will be a share of the trade deal with america but just how as far as pages will actually do will be ok our markets and the 2 were the 2 words come to mind trojan horse that's what a lot of people are worried about is that they say the u.k. will be johnson will be so keen to get a trade agreement with the united states that it may not be as that been cages as it should be and the true spirit of what briggs it was all about keep going. yes absolutely and in particular what sort of access will the americans have so

grissom's national health service and let me tell you this very short story recently i was speaking with an australian officials and this official told me that while australia would be open at 6 signing a new trade deal with britain australians you ate lean big array to listen in southeast asia as a source straight to her because naturally australia has a lot of economic interests and investments in southeast asia so we hear british politicians and journalists say australia is at the front of the 2 of us and sisters in australia want to sign a new trade deal that's not given the full picture and i also believe that the world will witness a comments a get up a strengthening of the anglo saxon well by which i mean brits and america canada new zealand and australia 5. or us threats to the worlds and within a few hours of reaching out and left the european union peter canada had to oppose

a model of political union involving canada with an australia and new zealand so i believe that the anglo-saxon vote which in the last quarter of a century at least as being the sponsible for so much carnage and destruction around the world could actually be strengthened as a result of threats it's it's very interesting that i haven't that's i haven't heard that that is very new but you know you have to even before you have a new relationship you have that and the past one and unraveling the of from the relationship of the e.u. is it's going to take a lot of time 11 months isn't that much time big trade agreements usually take years so we're going to have to get you know can condense this down right here the issue is also in foreign policy and i'm glad marcus brought that up is that. the. u.k. is has usually gone along with a lot of the european countries the continental countries when it comes to foreign

policy now that could be unhinged here i think england terms like iran for example and tony blair famously said when he was deciding to go along with george w. bush in invading iraq iraq is that he thought historically that britain must always choose the u.s. over europe is that the same question that boris johnson is going to have to face well you know talking about the reasons why that happened you know when a child leaves a school probably the problem was with the child but even more often the problem was with the school and you don't hear it that much you know in the international press now what was wrong with europe you know what was wrong with the european union everyone is just concentrated on these arguments between boris johnson and his opponents and why has europe become so i'm attractive. well i think they're on c. is very simple it seems to be

a peaceful continent people repeat you know that dissolve of prosperity and stability well the zone of prosperity and stability of participated in the war in afghanistan in the war in iraq it continues the destruction if you go slogging against in the destruction of yugoslavia in there in underneath the civil war in ukraine the e.u. played even bigger role than the united states so i agree with marcus when he speaks about carnage well that carnage was inflicted not only by the anglo saxons but by this whole idea all the g 8 or which of the anglo-saxon scott countries unfortunately were a part you know this radical ideology to remake the walled in the image of the west you know so basically i'm afraid that even though we may have more between. britain and europe between the united states. it's and the that all doesn't mean that all of this a go if you will stop to be aggressive in all communist china conflicts with soviet

union it didn't mean. the world that actually you know marcus take us through this here because the european one of the breaks it is important in a very metaphorical sense it is a precedent that has been established here what is europe going to do it's going to double down or is it going to have a post-mortem in trying to explain and understand why briggs it happened in the 1st place because once the precedent is set others can follow and actually develop a strategy looking at the british example of how to how to do it and do it right and probably do it with less pain and quicker is this something brussels was thinking about and if they not should they be go ahead. well shortly our the brits and left the european union's there were officials in brussels who were speaking openly about you about the european union have ensued the full and indeed want e.u.

officials said that we have to be we have to learn to be a lot more because a lot of people within the european union how out of love with the you and i would also say this peter that there are a number of politicians in britain at westminster who are seeking to weaken the european union despite the fact that britain has left the u. so there are some conservative politicians who are actively encouraging colons to try and break away from the european union by plane the german cost so the british politicians are saints of poland that germany coached you so much pain so much agony and they never paid to the record ration schools by the nazi occupation of poland him over whatsoever and yet you poland you the polish people are controlled

by the germans to date you needs a breakthrough so i think that now that britain is out of the e.u. yes britain will secure a trade deal between itself and the european union because it is in the interests of brussels and london because there is a lot of economic dependency back between answers but i think that brinson certainly encouraged by the americans will continue to try and weaken the european union by focusing in on certain countries that they believe are liabilities for the european union poland is just one example it's very interesting you know i mean i remember when i was in poland the day they entered the european union and i told my polish friends you will regret this. for that's right you will regret this. because the european union in its quote unquote value system doesn't match the values of most polls and we're seeing this right now i mean the interesting thing that you

know is that lessons to be learned here i mean i don't see the european union actually seriously thinking about reform i think that the leadership of the e.u. these mandarins of the universe they do believe more integration more integration and we have these populist movements mushrooming all around europe because of this intent a more intense integration and this war populism was just stuck to them by the e.u. itself in fact these are normal people ok they will not can this is i want our viewers to know we will use words the way we want to use them in well how we understand them ok and populism is not a duty or a dirty word. for example. paul or hungary where they disagree with the who. wants to have good relations with russia that's not populist and that's racial has gone home in sense one sense exactly and with paul and i quite agree with what marcus has just said. it's interesting you know so

britain is going to use polish nationalism well why is polish nationalism so strong for them now because of the e.u. for a very simple reason the e.u. is an ideological basically it's an ideological group of countries no believing in no liberalism believe in ultra liberalism everything that goes with it so outer liberalism is is very surprising in one way on the hand you know globalization migration they support it or you know let's break all the borders but when they have a conflict with russia or with china or with iran and they will have called with big countries because they will they want to dominate the world they do or no labor is and wants to dormant. what suddenly they make alliances with the most primitive nationalists and poor ones was one of the cases the the european union and the united states supported polish nationalists against russia what about ukrainian

nationalists he were doing that now you know the same with ukrainian nationalists all of that narrative which which are so many russians that the soviet union together with nazi germany started the right order that was a big i tried to we have to end here we're going to go to which i brought with you there's a certain nationalism in bad nationalism and now this national is turning against the who are going to just i mean really good really going to go to a short break mark is probably double it's in london thank you very much we're going to go to a break now and after that break we'll continue our discussion and some real news with r.t. . and .

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anything. welcome back to crossfire where all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. and now to athens we're joined by alex thomas of our oh he is the director and writer for the duran dot com all right alex thank you for joining us today i mean that i have this wonderful pleasure of trashing my palm pale in n.p.r. in this same segment this you know these are gifts that does come to me we have this school we have this squabble. it's not been recorded and this is something that was rendered later through memory but the n.p.r. . reporter was asking my comp aoe about ukraine and he comes back and i won't use all the expletives it was a lot of f. bombs do you think americans care about ukraine that's a very interesting question because ukraine came out of thin air it came out of

thin air during this impeachment saga that is thankfully almost completely over but nobody talks about what the u.s. and the european union did in ukraine in 2014 the illegal overthrow of an elected president go ahead alex yeah that's exactly right i mean ukraine puter is just been getting used by adam schiff it's been getting used by palosi it's been getting used by the republicans as well and pump ale really just spells it out. for n.p.r. and for you craig and he was in kiev and i really hope that selenski took note of what pompei o told mary louise kelly at n.p.r. do you think americans care about ukraine and so pompei goes to crane selenski was hoping for an invitation to d.c. to the white house to meet with trump he didn't get any of it instead peter what we got was the same you know you're fighting for freedom and democracy and blah blah blah the same stuff actually that schiff was saying during the senate trial when he

was giving his speech that the u.s. needs to stand up for ukraine because they're fighting for freedom and democracy and you know they're fighting the war against russia is that russia doesn't invade the u.s. and all this ridiculous stuff the honest truth is that the trump white house does not care about ukraine because the trite trump white house is transactional is looking to make deals whether it's going to sell weapons what is going to sell so oil and natural gas pump air went to minsk capello reuss this weekend for what reason so he can sell natural gas to belarus that's what they care about the trump white house is transactional ukraine is getting used here it's getting used for a coup against the united states president obama used it for geo political reasons and as a puzzle to this biden look guard i.m.f. money laundering scheme 45000000000 yen into ukraine peter from the e.u. u.s. i.m.f. where is that in my mind i didn't buy it in well how do we got

a little bit of a sliver of it exactly let me go to david where the money go you know damn it i mean from the ukrainians perspective you know america's their new ally but from washington's perspective ukraine is a new client state that's the rub that is the difference here go have so little play well and i think is just hilarious you know because we can only guess how strongly at war that statement of all true grain was because as washington examiner writes. we're flying our own. taught these woman from n.p.r. and mary louise kelly do is think americans really care about ukraine of course they daunte is they are so from the washington examiner but ukraine from exactly ukraine is important s. of poor against russia so let me remind you of another phrase from nancy pelosi who hates spahn payola drum so much but nancy pelosi is never the less valuable she

said russia it's about russia it's not about ukraine it's about crush invading eastern ukraine all roads lead to pollution understand that well everyone understands that they're all wrong basically lead to the people who made the queen ukraine. carpetbaggers and follow exactly are the carpetbaggers that followed and it is expression of humor areas of the article by us for members that your grain william taylor in the new york times where he writes if you believe washington examiner that a russian triumph in ukraine will. earth shared if it's on the health of other western democracies if ukraine falls the civilized world falls with it and of what is what does fall mean well we would in the definition of let's let me remind you what is your green in the mind or william taylor and and and others it was all you know. so put forward that group is out of office did the civilized world foley

didn't they see a list of all the speed of the so bad of uncle crocus i want to keep the unico because billions but they're not looking for punishing cause i suppose will they follow them let me remind you that the whole of this month 2nd story in latin america they didn't find putin's billions but i think found the mind but somehow stayed in power and they never fall in general which is b.s. let me remind you that the e.u. called basically a poor were just too young according to say and then and that let me go back to alex here but the real you crime story is hunter biden and you know it is for bowden to talk about it ok all right there's some folks over at fox news that talks about it but i mean if you go on that you know amis n.b.c. c.n.n. n.p.r. that is a story that just doesn't seem to get any kind of traction here but that is the real story here and hunter biden is just a small example of how ukraine was a sensually uses a money out clearing operation and nobody in power seems to really want to be

looking at it i guess lindsey graham wants to take it into his committee but i mean everybody wants to keep it under wraps but actually it's just a an excellent example of just how ukraine is just been this conduit for creating instability against russia and actually enhance ing and and allowing more corruption to happen because there's a high correlation with boring aid and corruption highly correlated and that's and that's for geo political reasons go ahead alex that is the moral of the story peter you said it perfectly well the foreign aid followed by the corruption of the story of ukraine is obama story it's the obama crew in ukraine it's our guy yes it's the f. bomb that victoria nuland romped remember it's now lead to resco an american citizen serving as the finance minister we also heard about vidlin being. offered the defense ministry position 3 times these are americans being offered minister

positions in the ukraine for what reason peter for what reason because all this money was coming in from u.s. taxpayers you taxpayers and the i.m.f. which was under guards watch and she broke many rules by loaning money to ukraine she was loaning money to you what about peter what about worry so what about grace i was just about to say greece cyprus spain portugal ireland italy all undergoing austerity while they were pouring money into ukraine our money taxpayer money this is corruption that far surpasses hunter biden as we said in the in the earlier segment hunter biden was just a sliver of the corruption that went on in ukraine you know all along in ukraine is it exists in a vacuum it's a an idea it's not a place it's not a large population of people but we have this new president some linsky ran on anti-corruption ran on having better ties with moscow yeah and in the war and

ending the conflict in the east and but if you look at the great protectors of ukraine in western media and the political class they want come flick this is something that and zelinsky is trying to cool things down and he's trying to find a way out i think he actually wants to find a way out of what he has to save face but he doesn't have a partner in his our lives the americans in the european union go ahead well it's true. fortunately it looks like doesn't have the guts to reign in a force the ukrainian nationalists who have a free hand in ukraine so judging by his latest statements he doesn't have the guts to end the war but i think it was very involved and what that is has just said about the. pale coming to belarus and trying to talk oh gosh i'm going to buy in america. gas you know the laws dictate that when you were buying american gas

that's nice but if i were. advised that i would go to him. to let the dog on the dictate or go to a shop go and be in the gate and stop doing that because. last year he invited you want western advice he had lighted people from there plenty columcille to consult him on he was a russia there were ben hor just that. michael competent not how he invited compelled to give him advice well might want to question would be if you really want to go down the tubes these until then. you really want to make sure that he knows look at does this every couple of years he's trying to play one side against the other. that really works it's really the actor coherent let me let me go back to the athens you know alex you know where does it go from here because you know selinski is. basically between a rock and

a hard place and he has great benefactors that he sees in washington they're not coming through the european union is already told we talked about this a couple of weeks ago they told the ukrainians get your energy relations with russia fix because we can't fix it for you ok i mean basically coming down to earth now with the impeachment saga almost completely and maybe there is a possibility to move the needle somewhere but this whole process is actually damage to ukraine and the prospects for their own people and he voted for his alinsky overwhelmingly for a better future that future isn't coming about in the u.s. and my campaign could care less go ahead. ukraine needs to look after its own self interest and it needs to mend fences with its neighbors 1st and foremost being russia the e.u. has a bad ukraine they have no time for ukraine especially after breaks it but selenski and the people of ukraine can learn from brics that the u.k. is now open for business needs to start making trade deals with the. whole entire world ukraine needs to follow that type of line it needs to start thinking beyond

to nato beyond the e.u. beyond the united states because the entire coup for 2014 was a failed project it was a failed obama project if i can just say one more thing about ukraine in the way they're using it peter let's go back to the don lemon c.n.n. that we heard where they said couldn't find ukraine if you had a you and a crane were good they were not only insulting the people that supported vote for trump they were insulting ukraine they don't care about ukraine whatsoever it's as you said peter ukraine is not a country it's not a people it's this thing that they use to hit trump over the head with david axelrod seconds go well unfortunately it looks like the landscape doesn't understand it because last week what he said was britain is leaving the e.u. also there is a blank sport left and ukraine could feel it well if you want to go down the tubes the same wardes as to do it you know well 1st no one would meet ukraine to the you

and 2nd it's a wrong strategy the you should man dies with russia these is the real market and this is the real lifeline for ukraine unfortunately it's not you're doing it now in 2 eyes on the people who asked michael when phil rightly said at n.p.r. host ukraine and care about our gentlemen that's all the time we have here many thanks to my guest here in moscow athens and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here in our d.c. see you next time and remember. and another one of the eyes going to sway. valley could still move the. 2 hours in this way got to dog so hard not to think of the mother disappeared this

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