we need the iraqi side its side of the story or version of the events so they would go and have a certain committee under the umbrella you know under which they are cooperating and say look we have this what do you have on the incident but it could well be that the united states not sharing the information means that they actually don't have in from information and that they just want to use this incident in particular as a pretext for doing whatever they wanted to do it in the 1st place. existing without the international debate that is coming your way in half an hour. we're being told there is a war being waged in america about the destiny of the country and the world indeed the washington political establishment and their donor minions as well as the media want to destroy trump but don't be fooled bipartisanship is alive and well.

time after time so we're going on the ground ahead of us democratic new hampshire primary that surely comes get any worse than iowa but which either way will have implications for the presidency and the world coming up on the show as palestinian president mahmoud abbas is set to address the un security council about donald trump's deal of the century we speak to former israeli peace plan negotiator daniel levy who says the plan loses colonialist supremacism. saunders is allowed by the d.n.c. to win tomorrow's new hampshire primary is trump we speak to trump 20 advisory

board member lieutenant steven rogers who thinks no democrat is going to get the pennsylvania avenue keys anytime soon saw both sides of the debate pointless and arguably rigged us to body system former green party vice presidential candidate a job or aka the symbol coming up in today's going on the ground a 1st of the international community's rejection of donald trump's so-called deal of the century as president abbas prepares to denounce it in the next 24 hours at the u.n. security council and while israel continues to ariel. joining me now is president of the u.s. middle east project who is involved in bill clinton negotiations at camp david daniel levy thanks so much for coming on so israel bombing gars or as i said the p.a. cutting all ties with israel international community not celebrating it was. well i think we've had the arab league formally come out the e.u. formally come out but this was a very curious document because the headline is vision for peace you then dip into the text and this is an exclusive one sided narrative of one side in

a conflict which manages to hit every israeli propagandist talking point for generations and rub the palestinian noses in it to an extent that even in a document of surrender you wouldn't have that kind of imbalance so it's anything but a peace plan there are no aust whatsoever from the israeli side and the palestinians literally being told live a 2nd class citizens without a state some of the headlines have done an injustice to what is going on in this plan how bad it is some of them said other person is getting a little less land maybe they're getting not quite the exact neighborhoods in jerusalem beginning u.s. embassy in jerusalem or no they're not they're getting perhaps when the plans implemented which it never will be let's just be clear about that all the up front

goodies go to israel any of the neat things the palestinians might get come only when the israelis concur and agree to that and they would be getting an embassy in the outskirts of what is not considered by them to really be jerusalem anyway behind the wall that israel has erected not not in jerusalem proper. the palestinians are getting so little that this looks more like a 180 page hate letter from america to the palestinians than anything that could possibly be peace and i'm telling you as someone who used to negotiate. possible texts for a peace plan this is like copy paste and put through hate grind ok well i want to get on to what i'm going to be preempting in a secular your well versed in corruption in the palestinian authority there's tens of billions of dollars on the table given the class conflict within the palestinian community with the voices they're thinking they could buy off the top level elite

levels of palestinian the palestinian authority in some parts of the administration they may actually think both given the history of corruption as you said and that there are goodies that eventually and mostly because they're squeezing the palestinians so hard especially if they have another 4 years if if president trump is reelected that maybe they'll get the palestinians to sign up so that i can't see that happening a few months before the release of this plan last summer in menominee in bahrain there was actually an economic conference in which 50000000000 worth of goodies was put on the table and they didn't manage to get one significant palestinian political economical business figure to go to menow unama refused to go because let's understand. there is corruption and then there is abject national surrender which is untenable an unsustainable with your own public you mention your role in

camp david well please the. son in law the man behind this quoted camp david negotiations as part of the informing this deal i was involved in negotiations for part of the oslo agreements we were part of a back to him. as as an israeli official at the time for can't they be we were at the top a negotiations i took part in those several months later what jarrad kirshner is don. has taken what was anyway. a distance that still existed between the parties that distance existed at camp david at every subsequent negotiation right to return famously wasn't in the core the right of return wasn't there and there were going to in a 2 state outcome you probably have to finesse that but what jared has done his he's taken this and don't like that he's tried to pull it in a totally different direction and that is intentional because and they're explicit

about this they want to reset the terms of reference and in so doing i think they may have put the final nail in the coffin of 2 states because those terms of reference have now become bantu stands apart. well i mean there's there's lots written a play about the oslo accords which is when it comes to this deal what do you make of the personal or particular over the netanyahu stated jerod krishna's house i mean basically was it written by netanyahu the deal of the century i think when eventually the stories come out about who this was written by. this is in the israeli hand on the pen and not just any israeli hand this is the hands of the more hard line elements inside israel. unbelievably ambassador david friedman who is the american. former bankruptcy lawyer for president trump ambassador to

israel now ambassador in jerusalem he was a donor not as a private individual prior to taking up an official role he was a donor to the settlements. i think he is the driving force behind that and in his backroom do not sit seasoned american diplomats professionals well versed in this in his back room writing all his plans of the settler movement and he actually tweeted thank you dr dori gold for your input dori gold is a former policy adviser a former official working on the nuts and yahoo iran's hard line institute in jerusalem i once wiped the floor with him in an intelligence squared debate and these are the kind of people who are running the show writing these texts and you can see it when we invade them and of course the current israeli ambassador to britain do today no doubt refute exactly what you're saying but how dangerous is it now for israel's existence because the deal is definitely united the arab world the

international community this comes after a mass unity against trump's aerial killing as a nation and got some silly money iran's top general the end of it j.c. . is there now a gathering unity against israel no i wouldn't put my emphasis on that afshin. yes we've had the rhetorical condemnation from the arab league and from many other quarters in the world i think yes at a communal popular level this is deeply offensive to many people around the world. but let's also be practical i'm not expecting. whether it's arab governments or other governments in europe or elsewhere to take practical measures to hold israel accountable to actively push back against this plan to end the in punitive which israel has enjoyed and which is led to the very

situation we're in today ok because a right a money was reputedly carrying a peace plan between saudi arabia and iran the big unity that could presumably really threaten israel reserve we actually just abiding by un resolutions i think that could pose a threat but where i think this is most problematic for israel and where i think the largest threat to israel lies is the following there are just over 6000000 israeli jews and about the same number perhaps a little more palestinian arabs in the areas controlled by israel inside israel itself in jerusalem in the occupied territories in gaza which is still you mentioned the situation in gaza which is basically controlled by israel the aspace the territorial waters they go in and now israel could make peace with the united arab emirates tomorrow and it wouldn't change the fact that they're on the land and what these dogs. by essentially withdrawing the option of a 2 state outcome is it means israel is left with the following choices rolling the dice that the palestinians will forever accept an apartheid reality or you have to

expel the palestinians if you want all the land which i think is not inconceivable but incredibly risky and ugly. and likely to generate a backlash and against international law but i suppose the only or you go through what is now being teed up which is an anti-apartheid struggle where the palestinians say we can't now have a state you've taken the option of a state which was a huge concession for us you've taken that off the table give us our equal rights in the one political space that you have created which i think is now the general may not be the opinion among policymakers and think tanks and so on that a one state solution is the only way forward but. amidst all of this do you think that arab governments are also in danger little in israel as they try and contain their own populations anger against israel or do you think that they're the government continue to think and there has been reports more between israel and

saudi arabia they they believe they could tag on to the u.s. and british backed israeli government i think that is the bet that is being placed in many arab capitals the bet that is being placed is that there is a generational divide the comes into play with this contact with this conflict as well and the bet that's being placed is that those young people do not care about this issue forgotten. and doesn't have the iconoclast extatic that it used to i think that's a misplaced bet over time is this one of the things of that eventually. leads us to hitting a tipping point very possibly well if it threatens israel or threatens the arab governments from future arab spring so that might not such a great idea arguably you've also suggested that trump is applying a marxist approach the pattens the contradictions that have been lasting for so long in the region just explain the well i think one of the things the peace

process offered was not probably a path to peace but a process that has been over a quarter of century chugging along it offered people a comfortable landing place not comfortable obviously for the not proud others opinions not the palestinians ends of 38 more fragile it offered the international community an easy escape route to say we have a peace process of course we're dealing with this issue you strip that away it's the emperor has no clothes this is what trump has done either your with. colonial apartheid project or your with that to freedom for the palestinians the question that israel is dodged all these years of fees this apartheid you're creating are you ready to have a palestinian state and then your key patient or is this permanent inequality that has been answered and now the way to reverse that may not lie in 2 states and now

they will have to confront the question do we stick with the trump apartheid plan or do we do something that actually creates a different incentive structure for israel so that's why i think to sharpen the contradictions and only thank you. after the break 24 hours from the new hampshire democratic primary trump 2020 advisory board member lieutenant steven rogers says no matter who wins new hampshire the democrats have 0 chance of getting back claws into the white house and a perspective from outside the 2 body system of the united states former green party vice presidential candidate john the braga speaks to us from arguable u.s. client state colombia all the small coming on to have going on the ground. join me every thursday on the alec simon show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you then.

welcome back u.s. democrats will be hoping to mars new hampshire primaries don't go has got to be wrong as last week's i would call kisses but what about the g.o.p. in new hampshire could it make all the difference and all trump trying to stay in the white house joining me via skype from new jersey's lieutenant steven rogers from the advisory board for jump 2020 thank you so much jennifer coming how much of a threat is prayer as if he wins new hampshire tomorrow. well bernie sanders is actually more of a threat to the democratic party than for the president of the united states and the g.o.p. look there's no one no one at all in the democrat party was going to defeat donald

trump the problem that bernie sanders is facing is a resurgence of extreme left people in his party that consider him to old establishment that such are so threat to the g.o.p. a big threat to the democrat party itself we haven't that i mean son his policy foreign policy adviser matt does he's claiming trump has strengthened my door in venezuela trump is strengthened russia in what he cools and the american hemisphere inside is actually is a hard left as you make out who is in fact more whole can trump is and trump is a dove well look. i would say that president trump is more of a very balanced leader between a hawk and a dove and i could prove it keep in mind that president trump had many opportunities to use military action against syria or any and he did not we had the incident where the iranians blew up a boat they launch missiles at a u.s.

base of the president was very very restrained so that argument that is brought from the left is completely inaccurate we have a president with relation to russia i could tell you that the president at least in my view sees russia as an emerging power and at this time him and lattimer putin have been able to sit down and do a lot of discussion rather than a return to the cold war a job biden is even in the c.n.n. town hall will continue to say trump is a russian asset more or less. well of course that's a lot of nonsense and that's politics as usual they have nothing they can pin on the president of the united states look they said that russia was deeply involved in some sort of idea to interfere in our elections it ended up being a hoax russia has been a long time target of people who just seem like they want to always make russia our

enemy now we have a president who at the very least is able to sit with the russian leader rather than be an antagonist is that the n.c. basically doing your job for you in what happened as regards his acquittal in the senate as regards the miller inquiry is that the n c the real drum 2020 advisory board the d.n.c. cannot stop giving us gifts i mean this has been absolutely marvelous what they're doing to help president trump get reelected that they have failed every single step of the way now we're trying to figure out what's next whatever is next it will cause a huge surge in the president's popularity look his popularity is now very very high as a result of their ridiculous actions against him in by the way against the american people of course you tool it israel i understand what do you make of scientists claim that u.s. aid should be leveraged u.s. aid to israel and of course the iran deal should be reinstated well israel has

always been a very strong compromising l.-i to the united states israel i don't believe we'll ever see a cut there glued to us they're glued to the united states and we're going to continue to support them and with regard to any disruptions in the mideast israel has been a big partner and helping us stabilize that region ok but hang on israel is a self declared jewish state sonde is would be the 1st of a jewish president. well it doesn't seem like it makes much sense with bernie sanders taking the ucas issues that he's taken but it boils down to politics a politician's will sell their souls. they will do whatever it takes even compromise on very strong principles that this nation has standing apart to get reelected that the magic of donald trump he can't be bought he can't be sold he owes no one nothing the only people he owes is god in the american people you see trump last time around in the eloquent woods of steve bannon of the state of the

union was talking about those people who have suffered under globalization and the death of manufacturing industry i mean the latest to to secure the usa has never been more unequal trump for the 1st time the riches $400.00 families paid an average of 23 percent tax when the bottom half paid 24.2 percent tax i mean how he going to get to wisconsin and the midwest states if you know democrats can point to the fact there's an exceptional inheritance tax so single people can leave $11000000.00 couples $22000000.00 to their children a lot of these situations that are set up like that have nothing to do with the federal government these are state laws the states each state assembly each of these budget is really a tax cut. well the trump tax cut i can tell you i don't know where they get their information from but i've been around this country and the minorities for example in this state have never never seen boosting their salaries they've never seen tax

cuts like they have they've never seen an employment let rate like they have and i myself i've got to tell you i look up my 41 k. a 2 weeks ago i was stunned over the amount of money that was put into that for one k. and i'm not rich i'm a middle class american so this idea that ok but hang on hang on with that 36000000 americans tonight will not be able to eat a meal they will to eat enough to live without federal assistance what he did was he's making sure that the fraud and the abuse and a lot of people who are actually not qualified for that aid is going to be filtered out there are people yes that are unable to eat well you know there are a lot of jobs available i could tell you myself i've seen people who are i'm ready able and body to go to work they want their they have jobs those 36000000 have jobs and 80 percent of us workers live paycheck to paycheck i'm not lending i think no one can blame trump directly for all of this because it was

a remarkably similar under the obama administration of course well keep in mind this is you're right these are years and years and years of policies that haven't worked it's not that look rome wasn't built in a day right so the president is trying to advance policies that will address those issues this guy's compassionate he gets it he understands there are a lot of problems in this country but yes what the united states congress has a lot of power they have not addressed this way way before president trump has been elected so hopefully we'll be able to address those issues moving forward why do you think trump tweets more about but he's on his than than any other candidate arguably. well you know it's been asked that question many many times you know a lot of it's us i could tell you is a fun guy but look the president will take anyone on and. you know when weatherby bernie joe biden or whoever and just back to foreign policy the other candidates apart from sonders are known to have supported previous wars but as i was saying when he signed his supported the war in yugoslavia war in afghanistan funding for

the war in iraq trump he campaigned against wars before he became president and yet it's don't trump who assassinated in the rain in general catalyzing an attack on u.s. soldiers. drop the biggest conventional bomb in history on afghanistan it stole trump of seeking regime change in venezuela bolivia and other countries. and it's donald trump who has prevented a major major regional war in the mideast by being very very restrained worth regard to a lodging any military action against iran and were very guard to the general it wasn't a military general real generals don't kill their own people this guy was a terrorist the president absolutely without any doubt kept his word he would go after any terrorist anywhere on the face of the earth and he did so he has a president who i believe is a peace president not a war president obviously hearing in government denies that the fantasy of rogers

thank you well for a different perspective i'm joined now via skype from cali in columbia by former green party vice presidential candidate a job over aka john a welcome back to going underground new hampshire tomorrow is the d.n.c. basically now at all out war against bernie sanders to try and destroy him after iowa where you know it seems like a. mini board very suspicious about what unfolded in our or be connected to the efforts to undermine him senators coming from various elements of the of the corporate press. and favorable. articles coming out related to a senator's ability to do street trauma and so many people believe that there is a concerted effort to do whatever is necessary to denying senders the nomination and i was seems to should write into that playbook the thing

is that some polls show only songes can beat trump what is the democratic establishment got so against him pelosi was clapping for one quite over the self-styled the leader of venezuela but even some of his own foreign policy man that doesn't mean saying regime change is needed in venezuela and so on his record is for supporting war in yugoslavia or afghanistan backing funding. the war in iraq where the democrats against bernie sanders because the democratic establishment they understand one concept in a concept is power and then out appeared to surrender the party to the center send his forces even if it means. losing to donald trump they're not really that concerned about who sits in the white house and more concerned though about maintaining control of their party and as you said returns a real policy. differences aren't that. much i mean you look at the

policies with little while for example when both parties seem to be committed to a regime change we saw the response in the at the state of the union when the fake president was was introduced so it boils down to the whole issue of who controls the major parties and the major parties are still controlled by those elements of the transnational bush was think i should just say the baby why though isn't self-styled the recognize him as the president of venezuela boris johnson met him in london just recently but income inequality is at its worst on record in the united states right now and yet liberal candidates like beat bush is as sure and that alone tainted candidates are going to be like joe biden this still running what does it say about the democrats that any of those people can still get votes

in these primaries let alone maybe some of them win in the florida primary or is that the narrative of the democratic party and the reality is that people are are living our net have not converged and that's why a candidate like bernie sanders the so so much of a threat to those neo liberal forces because he is he is personifying and articulating a message. that does says that all is that fine in the end the u.s. republic is interesting that by the end buddha jets they have a message very similar to what was delivered by donald trump the other night and that is that everything is fine in the republic that the working class is doing just great but bernie sanders and his message is to contradict that and that's why he is seen as such a major out of logical threat to the democrats and really to the political and

economic order wiki leaks told us in 2016 that kind of things that are being done to sondra this campaign what do you expect this time around they're already signed as people saying that the app in iowa was somehow suspicious what do you think they're going to do just as this time and i should also say their letters now on twitter showing how close sanders was to the soviet union apparently well i've been warning people for quite some time that even the concerted effort to undermine the ability of donald trump to to govern is going to pale in comparison to what will be directed abroad of senators so i expect for him to get it for it to be much more orderly expect for there to be a coalescence of the ruling class elements of that has as a major and primary objective to deny bernie sanders the nomination so we're going to see all kinds of dirty tricks all kinds of of reports emerging that will paint

bernie sanders as a a commune is an enemy of the people and you name it so it's all out to undermine bernie sanders including cutting deals with people like elizabeth warren . thank you pleasure that's it for the show will be back on wednesday 21 years since former us president clinton was acquitted on to articles of impeachment perjury and obstruction of justice until that they'll get to continue the conversation on social media and subscribe to going underground on you tube. we're being told there is a war being waged in america about the destiny of the country and the world indeed the washington political establishment and their donor minions as well as the media want to destroy trump but don't be fooled bipartisanship is alive and well.

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