the u.n. human rights office identifies over $100.00 companies. legal settlements in the west bank provoking an angry response from israel. outspoken support for the palestinian cause. in just a few minutes. also this hour as the b.b.c. faces threats from government cuts. to the growing influence of countries like russia and china in the media. the german city of dresden to commemorate 75 years since the 2nd world war bombing campaign which left an estimated $25000.00 dead. scaped. parents rushed into nothing with. flames in the narrow streets the flames were

spreading so fast people were suffocating. from moscow thanks for joining us here on r.t. international tonight i'm daniel welcome to the program. groups demanding that songwriting musician. co-founder roger waters be dropped from the south by southwest music festival in texas next month they claim. and therefore undeserving to share his views that. it is unconscionable that waters be given any platform to . use much less the chance to be a keynote speaker at a major music festival south by southwest should remove him from its lineup immediately. well roger waters is scheduled to be a keynote speaker at that 1st of all that at last the attracted more than

$400000.00 people and earlier a major baseball league in the u.s. announced that they were running ads for waters upcoming tour after they came under pressure as well we can now be joined live by the man himself roger waters to get his take on the story thanks for joining us so much or rather good to have in the program today yeah how did you receive the news about this ban from the league why did they how do they explain this decision to you where they didn't of course it's a complete lie that it's been made up by daniel and charles my old friends from. major league baseball ransome creased sale ads before a pre-sell of tickets for my shows which was very nice have always had a very good relationship with b.m. o.b.e. i've done shows the yankee stadium wrigley field in fenway park another great great baseball stadiums all of the united states so i have a close relationship with them. and so there was never any

question of bias continuing to run more observed to the priest period so i think they just lend let it let it go away quietly but then these guys constantly lie about everything i don't you know all of the life starting with the lie that i am an avowed and she semi to be in a valid and she said might i would have to evaluate you can't invalid i can't have bell that charles and daniel. getting there educationally subnormal they might meet that or say or they could have power anything about themselves but they caught on about i've never done anything anti semitic or had an anti semitic thought in my life i do have a support b.d.s. movement and i. and i have campaigned for the last 15 years. against the policies of the israeli government and i will continue to do so until the human

rights of the palestinian people are respected in the middle east we would like to come back to that in just a moment mr waters what about the south by southwest festival i've heard anything on that front about that case. and no i haven't i mean obviously i heard that they have invited me to make the keynote speech at the beginning of the music industry section and i'm very happy that they have. never been to the southwest of us have been to austin is a very famously great music town in texas so i'm actually looking toward to rubbing shoulders with the hope like minded people who are interested in the sharing of ideas and also interest in and some of the other things that i'm interested in that charles and daniel are now things like freedom and democracy and freedom of speech and human rights and so on and so forth but we will see i haven't

heard so far of any attack a just heard now for the 1st time on your program the guy who have it out was. attacking the idea that i should be that they should be allowed to invite me. to be just in terms of your support for palestinian rights for the media's movement obviously it is a movement that has attracted some controversy from all sides as well being equated with anti semitism did you foresee that sort of reaction when you expressed support for the movement where you know the the the equation of the b.d.s. movement with empty symmetry is a is an invention of people like but now i breath and it's an invention of the ministry of strategic compares which stands millions and millions of pounds all over the world that so israeli ministry set up specifically to spread lies about b.d.s. there is nothing and she semitic about b.d.s. the b.d.s.

movement has consistently and constantly and and of quickly stated that it is against all forms of isms racism anti semitism anti of muslim as for anything. any of any of any of those race hatred or anti religious movements of any b.d.s. absolutely disavows itself from and it's always been extremely clear about that and so i'm i i believe that all human beings have brothers and sisters all over the world and that we have an absolute moral duty to respect one another and if possible to nurture and care for one another as much as we possible can that that is what human rights is about that's what paris $948.00 in the universal declaration was about and that is the tiny platform upon which i stand clearly and being mildly sarcastic when i say tiny it's

a huge form human rights and more important than almost anything they leaders out of the darkness into the light. the seventy's obviously has as bit of a problem across the world though do you think such allegations as well as we said earlier quiting the b.d.s. movement with anti-semitism accusing you of being at least somewhat do you think that's more of a hindrance than a help to the cause of fighting all forms of racism as well as at the summit ism yeah of course it is because it muddies the water for one courage over one very very specific issue which is the issue of the settler colonial occupation of the land of palestine by israeli armed forces and and. forced exile of the people whose land it was in $148.00 web designers operation started so much is all of those waters i believe but i believe that human

rights should be something there is fundamental and applies to all people equally and clearly the israel palestine issue is a glaring a sample of somewhere where some people have rights and other people don't for instance the palestinians don't have any rights or 2 and the and the israelis have lots of rights and so so it's a complex issue but i wish i could i know we've got very little time so i wish i could think and speak wicca because that is the reason and it's brought up constantly is so that we will not address the fundamental issue of whether what i say is true or not that is why the i a show or a definition wedding cropped up and was adopted and has been adopted by trump and by others as a new definition of and he semitism is such

a red herring because it doesn't come from any real genuine body the i a chair or a nebula. same geo now has nothing to do with the un it has nothing to do with human rights organizations. and in consequence it it is the new definition definition which identifies any criticism of the policies both domestic and foreign and the state of israel as being inherently anti semitic is clearly not. if you look at it if you look at it very well but it gets headlines and it's quoted constantly they point to charles and dan you sit in the letter they wrote suggesting that the major league baseball should be ashamed of itself major league baseball should be ashamed of it so they should leave major league baseball alone this is just them trying to muddy the waters and should human beings have rights or

not this is a question that you have to place in moscow i have to face in london and we all have to place all over the world and it's extremely important because we don't grow on. equal rights as individual human beings it's very difficult to imagine a path forward towards a more towards a world that might survive for instance we do have bit of time left roger so you can take a time to think and speak as you want what would you say an answer to your accusers have accused you of all of the semitism you know such as the simon wiesenthal center they've particular been critical for example of your use of their lives in inflatable pig bearing the star of david during previous concerts what would you say to those accusers that have said that you know you are going too far you are engaging in directly at the summit is a man and you know offending. jews what would your message be to those who accuse

you of those things where the. god how many more times in my life am i going to have to describe the theatrical device that are used in the wall shows which is a broken roll show with theatrical senate where it a certain point i go fascist i put on a lever coat i wear it on bandit scott cross town it's on at you i couldn't get any closer to national socialism in terms of the look of the thing if i tried at the time as one of my props i have an inflatable pig and i covered this pig with maybe 20 symbols i can't remember the moment now of different of different organizations saw that i felt were of malign influence the star of david represents the state of israel in this thinking and indeed it's it's in the party country it would be anyway let's not go there what i want to where i want to go is i also had

a crucifix on it no christian association has come up to me and said oh my god you're into christian how could you put a cross on the pig that you flew in 2013 at a show in belgium in you know in belgium and say has any muslim come to me and should you have a crescent and star on the pay out day you you your and your obviously in islam islamophobia you know there was also a dollar sign that nobody's come to me from the federal reserve of the treasury is it how dare you attack the current civvy united states of america you're obviously crazy and so on and so forth there were lots more even if there were lots and lots of these things are not since they were theatrical devices that are used in the show i don't regret it i think it was perfectly legit to met however when there was a problem about it back in 2013 i thought you know what it doesn't materially

affect. my fear. to remove the star of a very fine so i did and they're still bleating and whining but a rabbi cooper from the simon wiesenthal center i mean i know the man's name well here it's a rabbit. and he worked up to i don't mean to get into ad hominem attacks about him but it is incredibly dull and boring and really i've been able to would stand it in a lot the there are enough people who are interested in what i think and feel and who follow my work my music and and my songs and so on and so forth the rabbi coopers of this world are finding it very just to destroy me. and i hope i'm going back on the road this summer but it is annoying it's really annoying it's like you try coming a fly buzzing around you comes to roads we're running out of time just slightly but

just going back to the question what would your message be to those who accuse you of anti semitism and do you see more actions from the pro israel groups against you accusing you of these things yet by my message would be don't do it. it's food lish you need to come up with the with you need to come up with a defense for your side of the argument over whether or whether it is correct or not for the israeli government to be operating a system of a party in the country that used to be called palestine ok you know where do you believe in the united nations universal declaration of human rights from paris in 1940 age or not because clearly given your policies you israeli them not you jews this is nothing to do with jewish people and by the way but now i believe at the bottom of their letter which i read again today they claim

to represent all jewish people. all of that work well i'm sorry guys but you don't . you do not you know i obviously i follow jewish voice to peace a lot who are becoming a more and more powerful voice for jewish people particularly in the united states so you don't report the more you represent some of them maybe but you know we need to be able to look at these things directly without slinging martin calling people names that don't fit i am not and he semantic don't say it anymore please because it is a bare faced lie and it's irritating and it does nobody any good ok songwriter musician and pink floyd co-founder roger waters thanks so much for coming on the program today great to have you on have a great weekend pleasure thank you. a lot of headlines the u.n. human rights office has various they reported on to $512.00 companies which it says

are supporting illegal settlements in the west bank the findings have come in for sharp criticism from israel though it's call the document shameful and suspended ties with the body. whoever boy good will be borg to the human rights gone sue is a buzz buddy that is devoid of influence the state of israel will not tolerate this discriminates he and he israeli policy and will take action to prevent the implementation of these kinds of decisions the united nations was referring to the israeli settlements that are constructed in the west bank post the 19676 day war these are the 121 officially recognized settlements house around half a 1000000 israeli settlers these places offer places of worship homes and businesses that serve the region for the israelis this list included 112 companies operating in these settlements they included some international companies such as moral solutions however they also included mostly israeli banks however some

american companies like trip advisor and air b.n. b. were also mentioned in the list however the united nations list does not state that these companies are practicing any illegal activity over that they are only being listed because they are operating within the israeli settlements it's important to note that it is not some claim a blacklist nor does it qualify any company's activities as illegal that would be a separate and highly complicated terminations finding mission highlighted 10 types of business activities it viewed as being of particular concern given the well established legal nature of the settlements in the occupied palestinian territory the palestinians welcomed the the united nations list that arrived from the human rights council calling it a welcome diplomatic victory and a sign of the palestinians diplomatic efforts in the international community to

confront israel publishing this list of companies and entities operating in the settlements is a victory for international law and diplomatic efforts the american. in and out of the deal of the century palestinians called this deal or this peace offering a pro israel agreement that gave nothing to the palestinians and gave everything towards the israelis this has actually created more tensions between the palestinian it already and the israeli government with these tensions also escalating into live protests on the ground and tensions are only rising in the days to come i'm a decided the national director of the boycott divestment and sanctions movement in south africa and you report would encourage businesses to end this support for west bank settlements. but as a boycott divestment and sanctions movement we see this as a great as a great positive step in the right direction for holding israel accountable for its violations of international law it has taken the b.d.s. boycott of israel just over 15 years to get to the stage and so we really do hope

that this nonviolent boycott movement can have an effect on the israeli government in an attempt to bring israel to the negotiating table similar to how a party that africa was brought to the negotiating table big business is like a b. and b. bookings dot com to be advisor invidious others should be on the right side of history and should indeed complicity with it is that it was a very lesions of international law we asked the companies mentioned on the list to comment on the story we'll let you know their response as them and we get it. the chairman of the b.b.c. has warned against funding cuts to britain's national broadcaster saying it would help russia and china support includes b.b.c. set to lose $200000000.00 pounds over the next 2 years as its license fee is reviewed by the government with an idea to possibly switch to a voluntary subscription system r.t. if these are early has the details it would appear that every time the b.b.c. are faced with these types of challenges they come out fighting although this time

it seems they're resorting to scare tactics in order to ward off any threat to their state funding and 3 this perhaps unsurprisingly they've taken a russia and china the b.b.c.'s mean competitors or the world funded state backed actors of russia and china who see news as an extension of state influence in a tool for democratic disruption very easy of course always to raise the specter of nefarious states abroad trying to infiltrate and influence politics here of course the b.b.c. never engaging in that type of behavior but the german of the b.b.c. also going on to sing the praises of his organization and what he says is their commitment to impartiality as a public. service broadcaster not a state broadcaster it has been a beacon of journalistic impartiality and a lifeline for millions living in fear uncertainty and captivity worldwide while perhaps a few shared by the chairman is not the same as that shared by many people in the

u.k. i mean for a start the b.b.c.'s embroiled in a number of its own difficulties and scandals in regards to for example sexism and racism and how it treats stuff and how it deals with pay between men and women for example but also it seems to be a politicizing of their programming with the very popular victoria dhaba show being axed in the last few months that led to accusations that the government was trying to interfere with their output but also accusations from all sides of the political spectrum seen on the right accusations towards the b.b.c. that they're somehow against briggs it but even more so and perhaps with a lot of evidence behind it according to those who make this claim that the b.b.c. showed a very anti germy corben bias especially in the run up to the election at the beginning of december last year and so it would appear that while the chairman of the b.b.c.

wants to defend and sing the praises of the organization and say that this is a vital institution in this country there are rapidly running out of supporters in the country who are willing to come to their defense mccauley kevin and spoke at a journalist neil clark about the challenges confronting the broadcaster on what exactly the proposed changes could mean. this whole license thing is a piece of history and the b.b.c. these to up its game do you agree with that it is a great institution i think the problem has been really in the last i would say 10 years or so it's been with its political programming i think that that's where a lot of discontent lies we heard easterly talking there about people believing or thinking it would not without any evidence that the that there were a lot of bias for example against europe because the now we're hearing today b.b.c. saying propaganda from the likes of china from the likes of russia are they really that important is it such

a problem you know i think the funding so i don't know about the chinese or c.c.t.v. funding but i know from reading articles or reports that in fact the b.b.c. as a whole gets more funding than r.t.e. gets so i think that's a bit of a red herring so to speak i think it's sad that he's felt that care of the sort of life to make that comment to get that to get russia because it really is and should really be about that it should really be about do we need a public sector broadcaster i think we do and how is that public sector broadcaster funded what he should be saying i think is the b.b.c. has got a very long history. 80 odd years history of producing good programs we've done it down the years please keep the funding. was a somber day in the german city of dresden as a commemorates the victims of a mass carpet bombing campaign and says that made it up to 25000 civilians died in the raids led by the british and american air forces 75 years ago to the day since then the intensity of the strikes in dresden has been called into question as the

2nd world war neared its conclusion. and. everything around turned into i see a woman in her hands is a bundle it's a child she runs and falls the child disappears into the flames.

we had the story of a man whose parents had the foresight to take him out of dresden the shortly before the bombing began although he was 5 years old at the time he still has recollections of what his family went through. the bombing started and the house was on fire parents rushed outside in took nothing with them others went back to their flats and they died in the flames in the narrow streets the flames were spreading so fast people were suffocating it was a simple struggle for survival after the attack no more no less for weeks afterwards the corpses were burned at the old market my father had to help there to from february to the beginning of may they started to clear some rubble and burned

the bodies there were $6.00 to $7000.00 corpses burned at the old market 200 meters from here there are pictures of this there were bodies lying around everything was destroyed it was chaos because there were also many refugees from poland and east prussia that's why you don't know how many in fact died because there were so many unregistered people here who were burned the corpses could not be identified historian michael jones says the bombing raids on dress than lacked precision and were carried out on an excessive scale well it's always been a controversial of and right from the bombing itself from the 13th of february 945 dresden was a very beautiful city it was a cultural city so the question was was it really necessary there was a lot of destruction i think it was excessive and with hindsight it would have been

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