hello and welcome to cross where all things are considered peter lavelle a liberal corporate media are fickle they fall in and out of love quickly and often not long ago they were infatuated with pedro rourke now they were smitten by mayor pete the media love to drone on about their preferences in the mean time the voters pick their candidates. talking manufactured consent i'm joined by my guess i've been in washington he's a libertarian candidate for president as well as author of the book pull out men modern life and mutiny in manchester we cross to david john pestle he's running for president and in fort lauderdale we cross to christopher metzler he is a legal scholar or a gentleman cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate arvin let me go to you 1st in washington you know i'm

calling this program wall st pete but you know it's about manufactured consent and as i said in my introduction and i'm particularly looking at how the liberals are focusing on this campaign. it's really the flavor of the moment it's whims of coal he's got a nice smile you know and he's like chicken soup you know i mean and i'm not just talking about mayor pete i mean we've heard this over and over again about all kinds of candidates here but i get the sense that this is manufactured whoever this pete character is i mean he seems like a cardboard box that you know that has just been invented almost out of nowhere and i'm not criticize it i'm not even have a dog in this fight here but i mean i am quite disturbed how the media is so intent on controlling the message and at this point always always always at the expense of bernie sanders and other candidates. for example they just disappear her she's not there and that's the media go ahead. so let's look at what all of the

candidates who have been disappeared have in common they are all people who have major issues with the military industrial complex these are people who want to see government cut spending on the military to stop foreign interventionism to shut down foreign military bases and bring the troops home which by the way is also one of my campaign pledges but the people that the media get behind on the other hand are the very people who they know are not going to be dismantling any significant part of the military industrial complex wall street pete one of the one of the biggest parts of wall street is the military industrial complex defense contractors this the firms that support them and what the media is doing is supporting that and any candidate that goes against that is going to get ignored by the media we've seen that with gabbert and we're seeing that with anders and we're going to see that with any candidate i guarantee with any candidate that wants to end this kind of foreign military overreach you know you know david ok david's not disagreeing

that's good that's the whole point of the program you know in watching the like but i don't know hey hang on let me ask you a question ok in watching c.n.n. and and this n.b.c. there they're trying to create this obama ask you know that may repeat is obama 2.0 but i would say well if you want to make that comparison he's he's obama point 75 because he doesn't even measure up to obama now you've just agreed and that's your time to go go ahead david. yeah i don't i don't believe that the press has disappeared people for the same reason that the gentleman said i mean i was disappeared from the media and i am definitely not against the military i'm a veteran myself i would actually probably raise the budget in the military especially in the navy to support defense in the country and also we're seeing a lot of opioids come into the country and that's a problem. and that could be solved using the military on the border. i don't agree

with hiring federal agents to work the border as much because that's a unilateral army that the president controls spy himself whereas the congress controls the military as well as the president so it's a little bit safer to have that check in with allan ok but they may have and i think stave it david like i said i wouldn't if we want i wouldn't i wouldn't go against the military but i think we should put it into the context of this program and i will give it some context here repeatedly public opinion although the context is there and again i think this please because we're talking about manufactured consent we're not talking about the military budget my point is here is that to kind of echo what we heard 1st is that if you look at public opinion polls of veterans of these foreign wars the majority of them say it wasn't worth it that is the point of mentioning in the context of this presidential cycle i agree because veterans are against these ridiculous very costly wars that they can't even define

what winning or losing means anymore that's a problem christopher do you want to jump in from what you've heard so far today. yeah absolutely that is the problem and let's let's get to the let's get a couple facts here number one. manufacture and pete was actually manufactured by joe and mika on their show so that's where this all began and from the perspective of disappearing these folks it is absolutely true look they fall in love with them they have this myth of the moderate which is the issue with with pete here how can you be a moderate when you for example so port this whole notion oh abortion yeah yeah so they're trying to make him look more moderate than who the communist i

mean look i'm a conservative i have no dog in this fight i don't really care but i'm saying this is absolute nonsense as i look at this i'm like ok so you're in love with him or yeah that nets are going to be in love with amy she's next but the fact of the matter is guys really love with who ever you want but the american people actually don't care about that they don't care about your opinions we don't care about your manufacturing what we care about is a strong and solid america period and none none 0 of the democratic candidates measure up you know i haven't you know i prepare for this program i looked at a number of quite a few to be in i wanted to i wanted to be empirically correct quite a few of mayor pete speeches and you know react answering questions he never says anything how can you fall in love with you know all this it just white noise i mean

it's cute sounding but there's i there's absolutely no substance and again speaking as a conservative like christopher. at least bernie sanders is very very can texture lies when it comes to issues i mean these are issues he's been talking about what for 50 years ok and i'm saying that as a conservative go ahead arjun. sanders has made his position clear and that terrifies the status quo what the media wants is a candidate who is essentially harmless who's not going to change anything isn't going to is going to let the media keep keep running the elections in this country last less election cycle 2016 the media so deeply ignored i mean for example into or nearly entirely ignored gary johnson the libertarian candidate even though he got a record breaking vote totals what is that coming from that's coming from the media being a sensually a spokesperson for the status quo and i really do believe that part of that status quo is maintained the military industrial complex i'm not just talking about the

military here i'm also talking about all the massive firms lockheed martin northrop grumman that benefit from this endless war these people are becoming millionaires billionaires by by allowing this to continue so someone like wall street isn't going to get in the way of that he's not going to get in the way of that type of a gravy train where american tax money is constantly going to american to american military contractors while of course the same time for an endless wars dishearten troops and create enemies worldwide he's not going to get in the way of that bedo would not have gotten in the way of that the problem with bernie sanders is he probably will get in the way of that and while i don't support bernie sanders i think it's social policies are terrible it would just drive up the cost of college i do believe that he would get in the way of that and that's the problem that the media has with the sanders campaign you know david it is you know this habit that the media has been picking winners i mean having

a list of its warning and maybe closer to our you know picked by the new york times i mean what is the world were they thinking about ok i mean. very different people very different policies but just because they're women i guess that's why i mean this whole wolk stuff that's what that's what destroyed war and she went way way out and everyone says what in the world are you talking about you could have a 9 year old trans person decide who your secretary of education is i mean elizabeth have you missed your meds today i mean saying that on national television you made up of food out of yourself and you destroyed your campaign and then you went and got in collude you colluded with c.n.n. to go after bernie to the calm sexes i mean he was promoting women you know in the 1970 s. when i was on earth of go ahead david. i think the problem that we have is the media has just shoved aside a lot of the candidates like you said they disappeared most of us they did want to really hear our opinions and our viewpoints and our and our policy. and the policy

and the character of the candidate is important i mean you can't have these people that are candidates doing things that are just. just bizarre i mean that's the only way i can describe elizabeth warren actions that she's been doing i mean they're just bizarre and when you have a somewhat reasonable candidate. and he's not meeting the demographics or she's not meeting the demographics that they want to appeal to. that's that's where they take away the press and if you're not paying some place that's another issue here in new hampshire and throughout the country i believe that maybe the the candidates wrote a check to the to the to the to the news reporters to actually get the support of the of the poster or the or the different press organization we're not normally they make a donation to what happened or they run quite a few but it doesn't even have to be that i mean what i find really fascinating

here is that there ideologically in sync ok i mean they don't even 2nd guess each other anymore because they're on the save the way we think they know who they're they have common enemies it's called it's called the coming to a voter they have the enemy of people thinking for themselves they have the they have the enemy of people breaking away from the anointed one so this is what they do all of the time i mean this this democratic party is so insulting to individuals and individual voters and you know and then we have that ridiculous app in iowa which you know i just have to really have to wonder that's a coincidence ok it just again it was a manufactured crisis and c.n.n. pete you won ok but you didn't win the poll out here of the votes ok that's ok bernie did bernie wins in new hampshire but they they care about who won 4th place this is manufactured consent here or i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on

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and very well might continue watching on since last. the holder doctrine eric holder former attorney general under obama this is the idea that banks are systemically important they can't be prosecuted because this would be a danger to the society as a whole what's remarkable is that this idea has bled over into other industries so now boeing has a major scandal on its hands and it's claiming that a systemic way important in the law doesn't apply to us other agricultural companies are saying now we're systemically important we're above the law now that is leading to beyond a kleptocracy this becoming i think it's a stock or c. is the right word it's ruled by the least qualified are now in charge of running the economy and the results are obviously catastrophic.

welcome back to crossfire where all things considered i'm peter lavelle remind you we're discussing manufactured consent. ok let me go to christopher obviously christopher you are now african-american and watching the the next primaries and caucuses coming up again the liberals talk about you know what is the appeal of minorities for amy and for pete and all of

that and they talk about minorities and particularly the black community as if you're all monolithic and can they always call everybody a racist but they have such a race this approach to the electorate ok you're all the same and you have to move on as usual as you're told ok as if black people have no opinion about things i find it so insulting to the electorate go ahead. well it is insulting look i've been block all my life i've been a conservative since i could vote and so this entire notion of really it is a race based approach to voting that's what we've got here and they expect that they're like the black community i don't even know what the heck that made thank you who is in the black community what does that mean and that's the whole issue and it also goes to the same issue of gender elizabeth warren did not

lose or destroy her campaign because she's a woman she's done it because in my view she's an idiot and this notion of being so-called woke. she is so the chisel sleep she can't see well i think what i think i like that she so that she put everybody to sleep ok and you know and and. but i am sure you know look i mean she wrote a book a few years ago i think it's what it's the the 2 income family or something like that i mean it's a really good book it's a really smart book it's a written by a smart person but let me go to our viewers what happened in this cycle that made so many smart people stupid ok and i'm not counting joe biden because joe biden should be in a nursing home go ahead. what we're seeing over here is the standard politician attempt to try to manipulate the electorate and this is not limited to warn them

bernie sanders of this just as much at this point i would say most people who have seriously considered sanders top issue which is college have realized that government funding for college is through financial aid and grants and all that has driven up the price of college and most people also agree that you have analyzed the issue also agree that if you got rid of all government support for college it would force college that massively lower their price that's right out of business right so we already have we have a solution i mean we have the solution right everyone knows what the solution is but sanders and more importantly supporters have picked the most mean spirited solution they can find they are choosing the solution that would not solve the problem but would tax people who have been working hard it's basically how can we hurt somebody in order to solve a problem that we could solve without hurting anybody yeah i mean absolutely because higher education in america is simply a racket that's all it is i mean you would you ideological and he you create you it's based on propaganda you create angry people that don't know anything about the

world that can't fight the job and then they get more angry and this is everybody gets angry because they're angry you know david let me go to you i mean you know you know running for office as you are right here i mean what kind are barriers are put up to you i mean i mean obviously i have made it very clear to my viewers that anyone that is running for president of the united states garden party even an independent they are welcome on my program to give their views even if i don't agree with them because i believe more views creates a richer society for us to make decisions so what are some of the barriers you face go ahead david. well most of the barriers i face are the the other parties getting involved if you look at the demographics of new hampshire there's only 291000 registered republicans about and there's there's about 270 something 1000 registered democrats there's 410000 people sitting in the middle that are going one of these guys to one why are they fighting so much it's costing us too much money.

if you go back on the bernie sanders with the free education last election in 2016 in the primary election in new hampshire alone he reportedly spent $230000000.00 here now 230 $1000000.00 if he had paid all the community college tuitions in the state he would have still had over $100000000.00 to run for president so that's not really a socialistic viewpoint of new hampshire i mean look at the demographics is it's insane you have you have all these candidates coming up here last election 15 of the top candidates spending they spent a reported $800000000.00 in a state that's number one in the nation for opioid overdose for synthetic opioids that was last election now you have a state that's still upwards of the top 10 in the nation for opiate overdoses and you have politicians instead of going into social programs and helping the people they're turning around there by bumper stickers signs and ice cream cones for

millions of dollars and littering the streets but there's these people really have a date with david here and if you were really cared about new hampshire absent to taking care of the issues because what's happened in talking about p. and woke they don't want to have to talk here and say politics has been replaced by virtue signaling that's all that's happened here it doesn't solve any problems at all does it have all of my guns and some tension we divide people ok because i talk to progressive not so much liberals but aggressives libertarians and we have so much in common it's amazing ok well because look at what's happened but it's the media that is doing a look at running the shutdown they had a full congress that was republican. yeah the republican congress had a fall they had a full congress and they could have easily voted for that budget instead what they did was they went home and they panicked the voters and said if you don't vote for me i'm not going to get reelected i'm not going be able to vote for the budget ok

well you know in the charter are they lost the congress because they didn't finish their job ok because they don't think they're that jay just want to panic the authors would give money to their i pod democrats i not have any left over like christopher i'm a conservative but i have nothing to do with the g.o.p. and maybe my next program will be roasting them ok christopher christopher a critter i'm going to you let me go to christopher christopher if we look at what happened the mess in iowa maybe maybe maybe one day we'll find out what happened but i tend to doubt it because i think it was intentional and then we have new hampshire you know who the biggest winner as so far the biggest winner so far is donald trump go ahead christopher is president trump. listen. president trump is the winner and will continue to be the winner because you have a pack of fools a pack of gold a pack of sheep on the other side and they have no solutions to anything

they're concerned about fighting each other their concern about who has the best obama like legacy obama is out of office that didn't work out too well so what are you trying to replicate so they've got that going on and so for the president has a you know it's a great time to sit back get some popcorn and enjoy it because the fact is the democrats who are currently running every last one of them in my view are losers they have no policy they have no brains that they have demonstrated and they are beholden to. the media the mainstream no you're talking about those girls you're talking about the front runners you yeah that's right that's a good point that david that yeah it's a good point because there are candidates out there and this goes you haven't spoken yet about the lesser known candidates ok hang on i want i want to i want to

get to that you should only put me in i don't put me in the room as those people we just i just i made it a point to make sure that you know we're ok don't worry about it david ok ok arbet one of the things that worries me with this really weak field that are given media coverage. there we're going to get to a general election and we're not going to talk about policy and we know how donald trump is ok he'll come up with a nickname and he'll decide religion into the ground and we're not going to get a policy debate that's why and i've said this many times on my program there were only 2 candidates in 2016 that i watched trump in sanders because trump was pushing against things i don't think it was always very coherent but he was actually shaking things up and it made people scared i like people like that bernie sanders really well no yes rock record ok and i would like to see a real policy debate about the things we've talked about education health care

foreign policy foreign policy for both want to talk about it changing the the fundamentals here republican democrat would ever do that you get a lot of trouble for that ok i would like a real debate about that because i think donald trump would like to pull out of some of these wars but he's not allowed to so i haven't you know i was kind of a lot segue into my question here i worry that we're going to have another campaign cycle without talking about issues and policy go ahead. if the media can get there if the democrats and republicans can get that they're going to try to go forward fortunately this has been an amazing year for the libertarian party and i know for other 3rd parties we have the big free and equal debate happening in chicago we have so many. ways to get real policy discussions happening and that's changing things we've seen thanks to the push of groups like ours things like legalizing marijuana over the last years legalizing gay marriage people fighting now to reduce different types of taxes more people realizing that you don't

actually need to go to college we're breaking up that racket but for that to happen the media needs to stop being the puppet masters of the democratic and republican party and actually do what they're supposed to do which is openly and unbiasedly cover all candidates and and so many the only people speaking today are right that the media is working to ignore things because they don't want to cover policy either they don't want to talk about shutting down foreign military bases and bring the troops home they don't want to talk about ending the drug war they don't want to talk about ending the welfare state and ending the income tax they don't want to have those discussions they want to keep it on the out nonsense like i want you know who's more handy them or whatever because it benefits them the saddest quali is jim jim dandy for these people they're so comfortable with the status quo they don't want to let me get to finish up with david i think there's one thing that the i'm the american electorate is united on they hate the media go ahead david yeah

you know i think the media's being is is just searching for the way they can make the biggest buck they're not really looking to cover the real candidates candidates i could build a team you know we can look at a democratic team and we can look at a republican team anymore we have to look at that 18 the all-american team we have to bring the best people for the game every single election and we have to make sure that the best people are being interviewed for the job of c.e.o. of the united states and if you're not going to do that because you have some agenda to sell commercials that's where we have issues when you're spending $200000000.00 on a on a commercial in the super bowl so that people can use the restroom they're going to cover that candidate they're not going to cover the candidate that shows up and actually speaks of. i don't i don't care issues on that want to tell you pragmatic in a little byte they want to know how come we have to get here on the internet ok many thanks to my guests in washington ben chester and in fort lauderdale and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.c. you next time and remember.

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