tv Cross Talk RT February 17, 2020 9:30am-10:01am EST
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because if this is not the mission of the west or what is the west coast we see now the material wealth is going but also decide of taking liberalism to the extreme it's now proving to have a very bad effects both internally within the west but also creating very bad relations with external powers and they don't seem to connect that these 2 are very much related. and where that where the causes are limited to alexander and athens i mean one of the things i find quite fascinating in running up to the security conference in munich is that in this term west listeners it's should be a criticism of neo liberalism that's what's destroying the west and that's what is threatening the world i mean the lack of reflection on the part of these people it's just a step out to me they are the problem and once they're fixed then they in europe can actually find its own footing its own identity instead of having it forced down its throat this her rip it ideology that people are protesting left and right and
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center briggs that is the best example go ahead. you know their problem is russia is in a peter rabbit. restless and this is yeah in china now as well but west listeners what the west is doing to itself you're exactly right i mean west listeners it's this neo liberal policy that we've all been living under it's the mass immigration it's the destruction of religion the structure of family the censorship the woken the identity politics this is all coming from the neo liberal west west listening is the neo liberal west destroying itself but like you said peter it's russia's fault it's china's fault everyone else's fault that's what's this this is what they're doing to themselves they're they're destroying their own society that they have built and they're doing it in an incredible unbelievable fashion you know and what i find really in standing you know alice cooper used the word walk and won't miss here but you know there's numerous
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reflection on the part of these elites and say much of the world would like to have traditional western values in their own lives and mostly ok they strive for it and the west is actually committing. a form of political and cultural suicide i think it's the rest of the world envied what would be traditional european values explain it 7 doing that all the personal level i mean who is concerned the war without the west german president you know. well let me remind you of that day it was mr started mild who was supposed to guarantee they greenman to between the ukrainian opposition and president jiang on that point if february 2014 and that position just when they had an old kid in policeman burning their. body. in ukraine and
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we started my didn't say why. worked people from their position basically breaching this agreement and then in 2 years mr porter goss said we just lost these documents that mr bush started my government would come to find it then you were in my in my office. and this man is now a bad enough so that you asked china and russia make it was more dangerous and he is saying that we just called it germany is prepared to become more involved including militarily when they read it my 1st reaction wasn't go in and 9 domke it north militarily please you know you already bought in of all military units yugoslavia for the 1st time since 945 german soldiers were on the foreign oil in yugoslavia in 1999 your gold in a vault in afghanistan militarily stalled doing it you know what we need is the last all of you would not war over you if i had a question you really want to jump in so we're going to go i don't. want to go to
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swot class because that's an important aspect because the problem now under this new law a new liberal policy is the reason it's destroying the west it's also alec's of the mcwhirter others because neither the political left or the right can do what they want their actual political objectives are on the left they want to redistribute wealth on the right they want to preserve traditional values and reproduce community however what people now notice after 30 years they're starting to realise well why do we have this growing economic inequality also why all this mass immigration we can't reproduce traditional communities why do we have to have multiculturalism why come to unite under common national culture but now they're noticing if you won't like how did this political system coming place who authorized it and now that they're trying to complain they're actually told well how dare you you're challenging our core liberal values on who are you to complain your why you are a man but you are but here whose values are these are values the leats that never suffered the consequences of their policies you know that that's what it noised me so when you go back to alex here alex you know one of the things that i really you
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know they do. davis admissable the populist and all this you know these people are dissenting and that is a right to dissent ok that is a western ideal value and i dissent all of the time but if you dissent in europe then somehow you're a deviation is you're you're you're creating problems you're you're breaking within our norms ok no the norms were decided by somebody else not by the people go ahead alex yeah i mean the real title of this conference peter should be an attack on the nation state an attack on sovereignty it's an attack on nationalism we saw it took gregg's it took the u.k. and brags of 3 years to finally get out we're seeing now that they're about to put salvini in prison in italy to stop him from gaining power and winning in a democratic fashion this is what this caucus is all about they don't know what people to feel like they're a part of their country of their nation and so we're going to do is begin to poll
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lula on him right you know lock him up and there is and the funny part about all of this we all saw the scandinavian airlines commercial did we not that is a perfect example of how they feel about themselves that commercial that hit you tube and hit the airwaves and was criticized by everybody in scandinavia because they felt absolutely disgusted at the fact that the national carrier the national carrier was not proud of their own people their own culture their own heritage that is what is going on here that's what this concept is about is about destroying europe it's about destroying what the west was all these decades you know glenn you know any great civilization collapse when it loses faith in itself and in this is essentially what's happening here it's as if you know you know they're in their ideology is failing that means the people must be wrong and the people must be educated in reeducated until they accept these values until they're grafted on and that's not going to happen that's why we have dissent in europe. and that's why
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this liberal. internationalist movement very much they are undemocratic liberals that is they push their liberalism but doesn't have the liberal liberals. the liberals the people are opposing them the populists there are rather democratic. liberal democrats so there are looking to challenges but it's but it's also interesting that this destruction of the state which is a nation as well which is why you don't see russia buying this either because they're already been through this to have the marxist the marxist do the same to say the nation state is nonsense or national culture is nonsense the religion is nonsense let's just you know transmission of this and create this wonderful communist man or a man who is elevate the beyond his past beyond community based on anything else but the credit values and human rights to some and you know it turned out that even more care was a horrible thing another trying to recreate the community. the c.s.a. doing the same things you after they've fractured it so much ok they want to see if
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they can put it back together again no i don't give these people a 2nd chance fema go ahead you know i agree with the glare on that these are your g.'s basically that it terry and there are many things that make it. also true there that if there are a nationalist i did argue it would just let me remind you of some of the wars that these people you know that they quote pariah state failed state you know. normal state and what do we here at this conference from the french president to be you to europe or to moral all we can all be controlled by the united states all of our structure infrastructure all ports can all be all by the chinese and all computer networks can all be under russian pressure and the cold war it is if nor do you know for beer just you or. do you can't how big you can't be xena vocal big and then pursue globalist policy. to make to be reminded
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again to do one with these people you can because what they do is what is notice they hold to so-called populists at so called nationalists you know when these people say you know we want basically our culture preserved but these people are very pretentious russia china any big country that can rival they are globalist project you know potentially can rival it and the gist of this conference was how bad these poor protests are and they're just ready to come out and say we're sort of. look at the article on our website existential angst over west us nose by hand and when you skip what she says that focused parties have rising up in the off tomorrow of the mess made by the liberal international all that good that's exactly ok we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion it's
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we're so proud and still. are just getting the number. why have you not shut down our t.v. on you tube it's a propaganda machine mr walker. it's not pretty you know the moon but if there was one as. you know. much for the call it was a little bit more when they're. fighting for you you're already in the sims you know but you know maybe it's time to trade. maybe. that that.
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you know. based on the kind of good intentions of architecture. chris and maybe even 40 years ago. simply evaporated to. see the kind of course you're. welcome i could cross talk or all things are considered i'm peter lavelle too much we're discussing some real news. ok let's go back to alex in athens well let's talk about the dual dual justice
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system in america roger stone could die in jail i'm pretty sure he's going to get pardoned but andy mccabe will continue with his high paying job at c.n.n. and they have something in common alex they're both were charged or it was proven that both of them lied but one lives the good life one is going to rot in prison. just this one. yeah this was you know this was no coincidence that the. the mccabe news was announced right after the roger stone thing went down i think that it's all out war in the justice department peter there's no doubt about it and i think actually now going after bar we were talking about the democrats saying that they now want bar impeached getting rid of barr once again stops the russia gate investigation stops his durban best occasion into investigating the investigators we know that durham is widening the net and he's closing in he's brand in he's komi
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it's really ramping up the durham investigation and i think there is real panic in d.c. these real panic on the democrat side real panic from the state and so i think this whole mccabe thing this whole stone think is a way to get at bar and try to get him out of it that's all you know it's really interesting is that you know they want there it looks like they want to impeach barr i mean these the left isn't very nuanced anymore you know when you see it when when you're really worried when you panic impeach ok. this is this is gone down i mean you can find fewer probably the one of the best issues that shows the difference in the media culture in the united states about roger stone i know a lot about roger stone and i think alex would agree with me he's a political prankster he's an operator he's a braggart i mean he thinks a lot of roger stone all of us that have watched politics over the years from the conservatives i know all about roger stone all right and he's not
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a danger to society nor to himself all right but he's been turned into a poster child they need they need to put him in jail because that will vindicate the russia gate hoax that's why they wanted to go ahead and i think this is a one of the big dangerous united states polarising which is in the one's interest now that it's the right's drifted so far apart this spilling over again. to the judicial branch as well so as we see in many cases of this before if we come back to the cabin our hearings for example that was. disgraceful in terms of how politics is now and this coming from both sides. but probably more in the hall from the left because they also see it was a sentence for lying but if you look on the if you look at people of john brennan and you had. all of this were caught lying under testimony and what happened what they know they now have high paying jobs you know sitting on different left
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wing t.v. channels and not just from c.n.n. to mr mysie so it is it seems slightly selective that they would only go after roger stone and of course this trial was also a bit absurd i mean that's a bar point out there the head of the jury foreman your 4 sort of foreman there she was fiercely. hated roger stone who was even tweedy could be very open about of. you know usually that would lead to a mistrial or something but it's this point you brought up to really like this. here is that. when you have the justice department so overtly politicized you're in you're in a bad place you're live very place here in what's more so is that you have half the country enraged by this and when you have the liberal news outlets
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praising the mccabe's in villainize thing the roger stones of the world that you're playing with dynamite well it's not the only example i mean look at these so-called whistle wars this is not a good mother good point absolutely there is this alexander. did anyone expect him to have a new trouble you know when he came out with this statement that you know papers were lionizing presenting he might say he would order his family. well split on the protection or military base you. compare it to what happened to julian assange and compare it to what happened to it with snowden and it's not only internationally see mandate is. still absolutely it's still it's still it's not only the united states. peter problems you know this is a guy who knew what his internet that was still the red square was lionized by the western media when he acted in russia no 1st he was put in jail when he is set on
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fire the bank fronts you can set on fire there for us in moscow but don't do it to the bengal frogs no he was put in jail for the 2nd time because he exposed skin did it for that matter paris and how did they do it suddenly all the french newspapers remembered that he was challenged by putin for doing something bad to an actress in russia 2 years ago they said it was a whole you know it was slanderous you know which was just trying to put public entity in jail now with i remember it because of the need to put a human shield in you that pretext basically they followed on pretext that there was a brawl a bold more than a month ago will suddenly they remember that and they this was used as an excuse for arresting him but they will get arrested him off the prime minister of france and after the minister of interior said that the so-called artist was bat. pardon is in the cards i think for sure ok i don't know about man for i think that
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for roger stone and it's quite appropriate in his going is already pointed out that the trial was less than pristine here it's time to wrap this up to people say rumpel pay a political cost he's already paying that cost every single day i see 0 downside for him to do it go ahead. and i think you'll actually wait till after the elections when when he does it where i think he's positioned now to win you know. peter i think the bring up manifold is actually really good because outside of the cape stone issue it was the same judge that was there in the matter for it case and let's not forget who matter for it worked with and i mean literally worked a way to put data step rather around free exactly exactly such another example of the dual justice system i mean these guys literally work together in ukraine one guys in prison one guys running around europe visiting museums buying expensive are drinking wine all kinds of things so that's a dual justice system there trump is going to win in
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a landslide the dems are panicking the swap is panicking bernie is attacking them from the left they're trying to deal with bernie as well and trying to knock him out as well and smearing am and who are they now propping up peter bloomberg who's going to be bloomberg running mate you know you're a hillary clinton. and both it is a hero by the way brad pitt is making speeches at the oscars about how bolton said here oh we clowned world. probably it will be michael bloomberg and jeff bezos a good beat you know that's that's the logical and you know i mean i think the you know i think the heartland the red states they're going to draw the obvious conclusion that. the d.n.c. radiant into lorries favor through technical means and strategies but this time around they're just going to buy it ok they're going to tempted just to buy the election here and we're going to do it quite openly with you know with a straight face because it's for the greater good ok how is it good how is you know
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it's always the left you know that we hear is that they're the ones that are great protectors of democracy you know they're the ones that are shredding it if you can't win by the old and they're telling people and you know and people on the left think that's a right you should do that this is really hurting institutions and the ethos of democracy. but this is again what i refer to as this are the on them a credit to liberals fighting against democratic. electoral this national popular so this is also the problem if you want to come up with a recipe how for the democrats to lose you know the this would pretty much be a dog bring hillary clinton with a bill in there and then talk to demolish your only being a frontrunner which is bernie sanders. and it's just and you know weaponized the judicial branch just go off to. just what else could you possibly do in order to ensure the trumps going to win then again i don't think it's
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a very good precedent in the many many ways so i think i would like to see some months of a much better caliber of their vote. but again the guy is a cartoon character i deal with i mean it's these people are liberal liberals they like to talk about impunity you know you don't want to put sanctions on russia is going to be a unity well they did it. again she did it to gain you know the d.n.c. is doing it again to this the 2nd time when they're all the same methods are used and no one is punished this is impunity you know we're talking of all the lies you know we're talking about roger stole. people call out about weapons of mass destruction in iraq did anyone over them get by and it is because of these people that 4000 of them are you going to listen to what until the financial crisis of 2008 who got punished for that separate the middle class the same in
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a general information. basically there was a lot of wrong information it was going to work let me go back to alex who are going to rapidly running out of time here i mean it just a number of issues we have talked in this part of the program it really shows how everything is the tinderbox right now because it's patently obvious that people are using power in i will this i'll say it in a moral way is for their own betterment here i mean the mccain. comparison is so galling and it's so obvious to so many people go ahead alex. yeah i mean it's also obvious to bars in a bar had to go outside of the d.o.j. to figure out what happened with michael flynn that's how much faith the bar has in his own justice department which i think everyone now is starting to realize is falling apart it's infested infested with partisanship with swamp creatures as trump would call them and we're looking at all out war bar doesn't even trust his
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own justice department to deal with flynn and now he's trying to deal with stone meanwhile we have mccabe walking around free we have lisa page tweeting out pics drinking wine saying congrats and whatever she said i mean it's right in front of our debates here but now it's. just a last few seconds here i think we have to say in all fairness trump isn't helping bar out by his random tweets there and you know going in there should be more of a united front there let bar do his job bar said 20 seconds go i've already said it and are said it ok real quick well i think that basically a bar it's very interesting what the court we have here you know the democrats are taking him for basically openly. in his ideas on religion which were conservative and for doing his job well he what is he doing they have already is but he was not that was being used as a sarah get to go after trump it's really quite obvious argument it's all the time
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we have here many thanks to my guests here in moscow and in athens and thanks to our viewers for watching us here or if you see you next time remember nationals. so see. wrong. i mean you get to shape out just to come out to it and engage with equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground.
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i 1st heard about you know. from the helicopter folks in iraq. i think that there are people we mean the u.s. military who have never forgiven for this guy traitor a treasonous if he had broken every law the united states illegally should suffer it was really historic to have. independent journalist die with his puter exposing the serious what of crimes and to a global audience. the idea of developing an anonymous digital dropbox and applying it to a media organization is but she hates that was the 1st. i didn't have tormentors that he would be for a short while we're right and one of the world's most powerful news
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organizers serious offenders and eccentric founder julian a song. and there was a great deal of jealousy in the brains for it awards a song driven particularly why won't he be more like the accused team. in d.c. so in the in. his mind. time. we have giuliani in solitary confinement in the prison for terrorists a way to perhaps a live priest and. i don't want to see him die in the u.s. prison. and i think that's what he's facing. we're still in an era of resource colonialism again this is a big risk and the one big thing that could really inhibit the kind of electric
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